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CARNARVONSHIRE JOINT POLICE COMMITTEE. A DEPLORABLE INCIDENT LLANDUDNO POLICE BUILDINGS. The quarterly meeting of tlie Carnarvonshire Joint Police Committee was held at tho County Hall, Carnarvon, to-day week. There were present:—Mr T. W. Griffith (chairman), Sir Hugh Ellis INanney, Captain Stewart, Mo^rs Ephraim Wood, Issard Davies, J. Allanson Picton, Dr. Pritchard, Dr. Owen, Dr. Roberts (Penvgroes), Messrs W. J. Parry, D. P. Wil- liams, J. Jones Morris, Maurice Jones, J. R. Pritchard, R. E. Jones, E. H. Davies, J. R. Hughes, Henry Parry, Griilith Jones, Colonel C. 11. Darbishirc, Mr J. E. Greaves (Lord Lieutenant), R. Jones Roberts, J. Evan Ro- berts, and Mr Wynn Williams. THE DOGS ACT AND CLERKS 1' EES. I The CHAIRMAN intimated that t. j sub- CGimmtt-ee appointed at the last meeting to con- sider an application by the Justioes Clerks tor an allowance in connection with the Dogs Act, 1906 had met on a number of occasions, but were not prepared with their final report. He asked that the matter should stand over for an- other three months. This was agreed to. CHIEF CONSTABLE'S REPORT. The CHIEF CONSTABLE in his report sta- ted that there had been a slight increase in the total of both indictable uiict non-indictable oiicncea, but there had been no very marked in- crease or decrease in any particular clasa of offenoe. The large increase in vagrancy he could only account for by the number ot casual labourers seeking employment on the Alumi- nium Works in the Conway Nalley. It also Beerned to him possible that the disbanding of & certain number of Militia. Battalions might have something to do with it. The number of tramps relieved during the past quarter was 2658, as compared with 1861 in the correspond- ing cjuarter last year. Number brought up for begging, 23; convicted, 22; discharged, 1. ° TRAMPS AND "LADY" TRAMPS. Attention was called to the large increase in the number of tramps, the increase being 797 on the corresponding quarter last year. The CHIEF CON S i ABLE pointed-out that though the number returned was 2658 that by no means represented the actual number of tramps. The number ought really to be divided by four to get at the approximate number, for 'the same man would be counted as relieved at Conway, Bangor, Carnarvon, Pwllheli, andPort- jnad-oo. Col. DARBISIIIRE asked if the figures in- cluded the lady tramps as weil as the gentlo- JIlen at leisure, the Chief Constable replying in the affirmative. GRATUITY TO A WIDOW. The CHIEF CONSTABLE detailed the cir- cumstances of the case in connection with the gratuity to the widow of the iate Polioo Sergt. Harris. Mr J. R. HUGHES asked if it was not a fact that Sergt. Harris would probably have been promoted to a higher position had he en- joyed the advantages of education which others possessed ? The CHIEF CONSTABLE thought fit very probable, giving the deceased officer a very joigh character. On the motion of Mr J. R. HUGHES, se- Bonded by Mr W. J. PARRY, it was resolved to grant the maximum amount of C196. RESIGNATION OF POLICE-SERGT. J. H. JONES. On the recommendation of the CHIEF CON- ST ABLE, it was resolved that Police-Sergt. J. H. Jones, who has completed 30 years' servioe, be permitted to retire, and be allowed the pen- sion of F,60 16s 8d a year to which he is en- titled. PROMOTIONS. Inspector EDWARDS, Clerk at the Chief Constable's office, was reported to have been promoted to the rank of superintendent, and j?olice Constables 28, G. J. Griffiths, and 37, J. O. Thomas, had been promoted to tho rank pI sergeant. These promotions were confirmed. A DEPLORABLE INCIDENT. Mr J. R. PRITCHARD presented the report Pi the Finance and Audit Committee, Lie direct- ed special attention to one bill for 15s, the hire of a car for driving an old man from Capel j Curig to Llanrwst. The old man, who was 74 years of age, and only recently- dischtirgwf from' the Bangor Infirmary, had been discovered by the Ejlice in a state of collapse in an outhouse at ajiel Curis late at night. The police obtained a tar and conveyed him to Llarirwst. When the bill for the car was presented to the Board of Guardians, that body, by a majority of two, de- clined to pay it on the technical ground that the man was neither a pauper nor without means, having as a matter of fact 2s llgd in his pocket at the time. Mr Pritchard commented in severe terms on the inhumanity of the Guardians. Had the man, however, died after having been found by the police, as he probably would have been had he not been promptly attended to, there would have been an awful outcry in the country. He moved that the bill be paid by the committee, and that counsel's opinion be obtained through the County Council's Association as to the actual liability of the Guardians and the police in such oases. Mr J. R. HUGHES: What will counsel's op- inion cost? Mr J. R. PRITCHARD: Nothing. We get it as members of the Association. The resolution waa agreed to. CURIOUS COMPLICATION. A curious complication in the relations be- tween Carnarvonshire and Denbighshire was dis- closed by a letter from Mr W. R. Evans, clerk to the Denbighshire Police Committee. It was explained that arrangements had been made some time ago for the policing of Llysfaen by the Denbighshire Authority, the Carnarvon- shire Committee paying L50 annually for that service. Llysfaen, though a Carnarvonshire parish, stands in the heart of Denbighshire, and it was to the mutual convenience of both coun- ties that its policing should be undertaken by the latter county. At the time the agreement ,was made, Llysfaen would not require the whole i a constable's time. Now, however, circum- stances were changed, and application had been made for an additional officer. The Denbighshire Authority, through it3 Mr W. R. Evans, now served Carnar- vonshire with a formal three months' notice to terminato the existing arrangement. Replying to questions, Mr BODVEL RO. BERTS, Clerk of the Peace, said he had exa- mined the agreement and found it contained no provision for terminating the arrangement on three months or any other notice. The ar- rangement could, therefore, only be terminated by the mutual consent of both Denbighshire and Carnarvonshire. If Carnarvonshire did not agree, Denbighshire could not terminate the agreement. Mr J. R. PRITCHARD: Then so long as wo polY the E50 Denbighshire is bound to police Llysfaen for us? Tho CLERK: Yes. The CHIEF CONSTABLE remarked that this was part of a much larger question. He thought Denbighshire would be prepared to police the whole of the side of the River Con- way. which he thought would be an admirable arrangement. The CHAIRMAN did not think it desirable to enter into that question. On the motion of Mr W. J. PARRY, it was resolved to abide by the existing agreement. LLANDUDNO POLICE BUILDINGS. In accordance with notice, Mr J. JONES MORRIS rose to move (a) "That the County Council be recommended to acquire from Lord Mostyn for the sum of £882, 1680 square yards of freehold land in Oxford-road, Llandudno, for tho purposes of a site for new county police buildings, provided such site is oonveyed to the county [rtoe from any restrictive condi- tion? and free from any costs and charges 01 tile vender;' and (b) "That the matter be re- ferred for further negotiations, and report to a committee consisting of tho chairman and a representative of the justioes and County Council from each Petty Sessional Division in (the county." Mr ISSARD DAVIES asked if this was In Older., as the Committee at its last meeting had passed a resolution declaring it to be inoppor- tune to deal with the matter. This could not be rescinded under six months. # I Mr JONES MORRIS said he was quite pre- p lred to put the matter off for another three jnontlis to moot the objection. Dr. PRITCHARD asked whether they were sure Llord Mostyn would be willing to wait their convenience. Mr JONES MORRIS said Lorct Mostyn could be quite sure that Committee wo-ild never buy the land in question except upon the terms now stated. Mr ALLANSON PICTON protested in the najne of humanity against unconvicted prisoners being confined in the present wretched, un- healthy, unlighted cells at Llandudno. Mr J. R. HUGHES rose to a point of order. Wm Mr Picton entitled to go with t'-at when proposer of the resolution was precluded j from moving it ? Mr PICTON said the objection to Mr Jones- liorru's motion being proceeded with was not a? a matter of business, but on the point of ex- penditure only. Tho CLERK, on being appealed to, upheld this view, and said that Mr Jones-Morris's mo- tion did not in any way come into collision with tho resolution pre. riously passed. Mr PICTON again protested vigorously against continuing tho present state of things at Llan- dudno. The cells were not fit to put a dog into, and yet unconvicted and consequently presumably innocent persons were imprisoned there from Saturday until Monday. It was monstrous. Mr ISSARD DAVIES protested against those wholesale and unfounded charges being made. The Chief-Constable himself had said he had no- thing to complain of. Mr JONES-MORRIS said he had seen the cells for himself, and they were quite good enough to lodge drunkards in from Saturday to Monday. The matter then dropped, it being understood Mr Jones-Morris would move his resolution at the next meeting. PROBATIONARY OFFICERS. After considerable discussion it was resolved to continue for another six months the existing in arrangements with officers appointed under the Probation of Offenders' Act, 1906.

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