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CONWAY BOAiiP OF GUARDIANS.

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CONWAY BOAiiP OF GUARDIANS. THE BOARD AND CHARITY ASSOCIATIONS. THE LICENSING B!LL. The monthly meeting of this Board was held in t,he Board Room on Friday. Mr David Jones (chaiiman) presided. There v.ero ako present: Mrs Thom-ae Lloyd, Mrs A. J. Oldman, Muv M. E. Williams, Mitss (Jha-mpr.cys, Miss J^ovvie, M:>5 iiiinie Parry, Rev.s. Ca-r.-cn David Jone6, J. Raymond, E. J. Evans, Peter J once, Williani Phiiups, Messrs Jits. Roberts, R. A. Ellis, A. J. (iHman, \Vi;lia.m Daviee, Hugh Ilughee, I'a. Ailhitnw, Refers Jones, J. W. Raynes, J. '1 i'ayior, \V. \V;lkineon, R. Wil- liams, VV. F. lonej, DaviJ Joiiccs, William li- liaim, 0. W Robert-?, Albert Roberts, P. H. McOement, (1,'n Fitter, El. Jews, and Hug.h Owen, together with the dork (Air T. 10. Parry), the Aft istant Clerk (Mr J. W. Pitt), ar.i othe.T oflieiale. "A BETTER SPIRIT." Referring to corrop ikI 'Iko which the Beard had had with the IJar.dudnc C-i.arity Association, the Chairman said he was pieafed to fifid that a better spirit prevailed as between the Associa- tion and the Board than three years previously, when it was the rula that to member of the Board could be a member of the A s^ciUton. Mr Pc^t: That is &o ik w. Rev. J. Raymond paid that in fairrors to the Association he would like to state tiat, at the last meeting of the Aste<iation held last year, they had proposed to rescind the rule, and niaive it. pcrr-ible for nt: mbere (,f the Board, to be 01 the Association However, upon the a]- vtee of Aiv Roger Dawson, an ex-rneiii-bar of the Board, who'con tended that certain penalties would be incurred if a change were effected, the resolution was allowed to remain unchanged. The Chairman remarked that no Association of that, kind oou]d carry out its work properly unless it worked in hajmony with the Giaajdkuifi. Sufficient evidence was piven at the recent Cor- ner] Conference to establish thLs as a fact. Ac C< !v. ::i Bay was about to establish an Associa- tion it would, bo well for thtMQ to bear what was said at Corwcn in mind. TEMPERANCE LECTURE. The Conway Free Church Ccuncil were re- ported to have invited the children to attend a temperance meeting held in the Town Hail, Con-' way, and the children were allowed to attend. YOUNG CHILDREN'S TOYS. At a meetipg of the House Committee, Mns A. J. Oldman had suggested that the young children be supplied with a set of wooden blocke. Through the kindness of the assistant ckrk (Mr J. \V. Poet) t'neee were now reported to have been provided, and the Beard thanked the donor '.o.r his gift. MILK CONTRACT. In reply to the advertisements for supplying the house with milk during the forthcoming four tenders were leeeived, that of Mr .:OOn Jonee, Cyilgwvnion, Conway, at gd per gallon, being accepted. CHRISTMAS FARE. It was decided that the inanates and officers bo allowed the usual Christmas fare. The lady members of the Board consented to again act a.s a committee to make arrangements for the treat for the inmates in the uine manner as use ea. CONTRACTS AND INSPECTION OF GOODS. The thanks cif the Board were accorded to Messrs Edward Jones and J. Williams fo-r their cervices in inspecting the goods supplied under iontract. A PLAGUE OF FLIES. At the October meeting of the Beard attention was called by Mrs Old-man to what she cleGOriiKd a "plague of flies" in the house. Hundreds r>f these insectii, she fc&id, tormented the sick poor vniiabiting the hospital wards. The Board had previously called the attention of the Conway Corporation to the desira.bility cf removing their refute pit from its site just outside the workhou-c walls, but the Board's applications had not been successful. A further communication was sent to the Cor- poration, and in TeplY a letter was received from the Borough Surveyor of Conway sta-ting that "tho Town Council are anxious to help the Guardians in any way they ca.n," and it was resolved "that as some of the members of the Sanitary Com- mittee are also Guardians, they be appointed the Council's deputation to meet the Board's de- putation," MASTER'S REPORT. Tho Master reported that. Mrs Darbianire, TIaulfre, PetiniaeDmawr, and Miss Mayman, Plas lolyn, Conway, JkkI aout periodicals for tho use uf the irurates. It was resolved that they be heartily thanked for their kindxiefs. ..REGISTER OF PAUPERS. The Clerk reported that in accordance with the Board's instructions en the 5th October, 1906, the register of paupers, tabulated statements, and return of the number of paupers in receipt of relief, indoor and outdoor, from the lit 't)ck.bcr, 1906, to 30th September, 1907, bad been presented to the committee, together with the copy of the reiurn as despatched to the Local Government Board. The Clerk applied for remuneration, as pro- yaiscd, for himself and various officers engaged vith the work. It was resolved that the following allowances tJr the work be granted:—Meesrg T. E. Parry, <12; J. W. Post, flO; Fred Williams, £ 6; R. T. Jones, £ 5; W. G. WiiJi E-4; W. Jones, L3; -lid Edward Jones, L-3. SALARIES OF MASTER AND MATRON. Tho Clerk presented a statement prepared by fn, master, as requested by the last meeting, in reference to the application for an increase of -alary by himself and the matron. The Clerk also presented returns from other unions with salaries paid to masters, etc. It was resolved tha.t the returns he printed, and tipecial meeting held on the 20th December to oonsider tho matter. VACCINATION. At the last meeting of the Beard letters were k«td from the public vaccinators in tho area IÜvered by the Board, protesting against the 'erms of the Local Government Beard's circular better, of September 27th, witih reference to vaccination fees to be paid in future. It was recommendod that the clerk should pre- pare an account of the number of oases of r.uoceesful vaccinations for the twelve months fended September, 1907, and the amounts paid to Vie public vaccinators in respect of such catee; tnd further that he again write to the Unions tiready written to with regard to the fees, ask- g what they had finally a-greed to pay their public vaccinators. The Clerk UQ-W presented the statement as.re- vested, together with the letters from other, "jniotns, giving information respecting the fees tatted under the now order. It was decided that these also be printed with ilie foregoing repcrt to be poiiisidered at the -ting to be held on the 20th Deceiimber. THE NEW LICENSING BILL. In accordance with notice Mrs Thomas Lloyd, C-olwyn Bay, moved "That this Board welcomes Ifith gratitude the declaration made by the Prime Minister that a comprehensive Licensing I;ili will be the very first measure of the next Mission. And further, that it entreats the Government to make provision in the Bill, nmongst other things, upon which there is generally agreement. (1) For discontinuing the wooer's licence. (2) For terniiii.at.ing tho tied Louse system. (3) For prohibiting the employ- ment of barmaids in licensed houses. 4).For i,lac' rig all clubii, where intoxica-nts are sold, under the same legal condition as public houees! ) .nd (5) for giving the people in cach locality the power to prevent, by their votes, the grafting and reriowing of licences in that locality." She said she believed that they all, inde- pendent of politics, wanted to do the best for their country, and to ensure the sobriety of the people was one way of getting that end. He torring to the grocer's licences ehe said she thought that when Mr Gladstone had introduced that method of licensing business he thought the movement would do good, but never had he Miade such a.' mistake in his life. Drinking •mongst men was decreasing, but unlortunateiy o,n,.ongr,t women it was increasing, and this she tkibuted partly to the fact that wotmeai were itow able to obtain wines arvi spirits at shops, IInd have them put down in, the bill as goods t.her than intoxicants. Spoakmg of the second tla.e,ti'he pointed out "hat those managing "tied houses" were XMnpelled to sell a certain quantity of drink before they were sure that ihe masters would keep thorn, and that was a.n iniquitous eystcm. The abolition of the tied house yystom was one of the things that would ieesen Arinking in our land Mr A. J. Oldmaii warned hits, oollea^ue.- against making the question tco political in character and now that they had moved in (he matter he urged them to be cautious He wcmld like to move an amendment, but After a clhort disoussibv, Mih Lloyd was allowed to proc-eed with the tubject. Referring to Cia-use 3. she said that of couree wa6 a- question upon which possibly there would not be full agreement. Nevertheless she objected strongly to the eniplovment of bar- aiaids in filing drink in public-hcuses. She knew of cases where young men onJv wont to pubhc-housea beca-use there were barrrj.aidis tiiere and they could have a pleasant chat with them; Young fellowns should on the contrary be kept out of such places.. Dealing with Clause 4. the speaker said there were clubl, k»th at Llan- ttudno and Colwyn Bay where drinking and me playing wore being carried on until one rend two o clock in the morning, and it would be a fine thing to place greater restrictions on t uob places. Continuing Mrs Lloyd urged that people in each locality should by power of their vote, be allowed to prevent renewal of licences in their locality. She was quite sure that magistrates would not like public-houses to be situated at the bottom of their gardens, yet they were constantly giving permission to erect such placas on sites, where people as a whole objected. The public ought to have power to say that they would not have a public-house in the neighbour- hood where they lived. Mr 0. W. Roberts seconded. There were., he said, some points on which both sides agreed. Taiiing the grocer's iiccnces, the "trade" thought this was a groat injustice to them. In the cases of the tied house system and barmaids some refouns were meet detsirable. The question of clubs was a most important c.nc. Licenced victuallers had to pay heavy licence duties, whilst clubs sold at all hours without restriction. More stringent regulations were neeeusary than these in vogue at present. They were en-gaged in the tale of liquor and should be made to pay the proper proportion of excise duties. Mr A. J. Old man again rose to move an amondment, and said that, al til ought fully in favour^ of all that had been said, he contended that tliat was not the proper place to bring up a question of that kind. He moved the following amendment; "That, this Board wel- comes with gratitude the declaration made by the Prime Minister that a comprehensive Licen- sing Bill will be the very first measure of the next session, and entreats the Government to do its utmost to stem the tide of intempefa-noe, and to remove the cause or need of 60 much poor-law relief." Mr Ed. Jones seconded. Canon David Jones said he would be very glad to vote for the amendment with the ex- ception off the word "comprehensive." Con- tinuing, he raid he did not think th-ey would be doing a liberal thing in prohibiting barmoids by la W. It was gvjiriig a licle too far in the restriction of tho freedom of a subject. Mr Taylor added they were practically unani- mous that this one word "comprehensive" be withdrawn. They seemed also practically agreed upon ^tiho first pa.ragna.ph. He would suggest that they take a vote on that, and then move the other clauses afterwards. Mr McClemesnt raid he noticed that the "trade" objected to this, and teetotallers to that, but there were otihor people bedd^s these to conrider. Let them do this on a broad and general view, aaid try and pafe something within the jurisdiction of the Board. He d.id not think this was within the province of the Boa-rd. Mrs Loy-d eaid it did aflect them, because if they had kws drinking they would, net require eo much poor-law reliof. Prisons and asylums would not be so full, and there would be a deoreate in paupers. The Chairman remarked that the word prenernsi ve" would be struck out. On being put to the meeting 19 voted for the amendment, and t-cven for the motion. Mr Oldman asked that they s>li-ouid be unani- mous, and on again being put to the vote, the amendment was carried without a. t. Mr O. W. Roberts stated that not oniy should copies be tent, to the Prime Minister, but also to the membere of Parliament for Denbighshire, Carnarvonshire, the Borouiglit-, and the Chan- cellor cf the Exchequer.

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