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vv. TlUA -I.a" Vi GUARDIANS. LLANDUDNO POLICE BUILDINGS DISCUSSED. A PROTEST AGAINST THE PROJECT. III FLY PLAGUE ENGENDERS AN AMUSING DISCUSSION. The monthly meeting of this authority was held on Friday. Mr David Jones presided. There were also present: Mrs Thomas 'Lloyd, Mrs Oldman, Miss Lewis, Miss Wi1l1&ms, Rev. John Raymond, Messrs S". Williams, 0. W. Roberts, Ed. Williams, Hugh avies, Hugh Hughes, Ed. Jones, P. H. McOlement, William Dnies, D. O. Williams, S. R, Bartley, John Williams, Wa.tkin Darbishire, Ben Fisher, J. T. Tay- lor, A. J. Oldman, Rogers Jones, Aneurin Jones, R. Williams (Gyffln}, W. F. Jones, Robert Roberts, W. Wilkinson, Hugh Owen, E. J. Evans, Ed. Roberts, With the Clerk (Mr T. E. Parry), the Assistant Olerk (Mr J, W. Post), and other officials. A PLAGUE OF FLIES." AN AMUSING DISCUSSION. Mrs Oldman called attention to what she described as a "plague of flies" in the house. Hundreds of these insects, she said, tormented the sick poor inhabiting the hospital wards. The Board had pre- viously called the attention of the Oonway Corporation to the desirahility of removing theÏr refuse pit trom its site jU8t outside the worktlouse walls, but the Board's applications had not been successful. She Ílow moved that the Medical Officer of Health be asked to inspect the tip, and to report upon the Blatter, because she was convinced that the flies came from the tip. Mr William Davies (Colwyn Bay): I second that, Mr Chairman. These complaints have been going on for many years now, and it is full time that the Gonway Corporation be prosecuted over this business (laughter). Mr Ed. Roberls (Conway) asked whether any com- plaints had been previously made to the Corporation; he could not recall any. The Chairman: We have been complaining for years; you know that yourself. Mr Ed. Roberts: No; I don't, Mr Chairman. Mr Wm. Davies: Yes; we have complained for years Mr Ed. Roberts (with a wave of the hand): Oh, Oolwvn Bay may say what thy. like (laughter). But come now, Mr Chairman thIs IS a very serious matter It is all very nice to laugh, you know <renewed laughter), but when this sort of thing ceta 111to the papers it is a serious thin for the Corpora- tion. Can you prove what you say? It is very easy to say a thing, but proving it i a dierent matter, to say II. thing, but proving it IS a different matter (laughter). Mr O. W. Roberts: I rise to a point of order. Mr Roberts rose to move an amendment, and I have l10t "et heard the amendment. M; Ed. Roberts: My amendment is that we gt more time (laughter). I hare never heard of this thing before. The Chairman: You move that the matter be de- ferred. „ ferred. „ Mr Roberts: Yes, and that we write the Oorporation and see what they have to say about the question. The Chairman said be quite agreed with what Mrs Oldman had sdd. Be had visited the hospital bimself and he could assure the members that the wre a great nuisance. He thought they would do right to ask the Oorporation to remove the tip. Mr McOlement 8aid he had called attention to the desirability of removing the tip before, and he wished to know whether the tip still remained where it used to be. Several members cried, "Yes." Mr McOlement: Then I will IUpport the resolution. Mr Ed. Roberts (to the Chairman): Do you say that the tip has not been removed? j-'he Chairman Tea, I do. I say the flies in the hospital are a nuisance* but I can't flay for certain that the tip is the cause of them. ?tIr Ed. Roberts: You don't expect the uonway Corporation to keep an inspector of flies; do you? (loud laughter). I ask you plamly now-can you SSlearlv prove that the flies are caused by the tip/ The' Chairman We can ask the Medical Officer of Health whether he considers the tip to be a nul- vance, anyhow. PROOF IN THE EATING. Mrs Oldham: It is suggested that we need proof f the nuisance. If any member wants any proof he may come wIth me to these wards and judge for himself. I wonder whether any ot us would like to taste the food into which these infected 1Uea have fallen. Several members Oh! (laughter). The Rev. J. Raymond said that as there was no certainty whether the tip waa responsible for the Aies, he failed to see how they could move, Mr Wm. Davies: This il a very urgent matter. We must approach the Medical Officer of Health, and if he decides that this tip is a nuisance the Conway Corporation should be prosecuted unless they abate it. Mr Raynes pointed out that the tip which had been described as a nuisance last year was situated on another site, at the back of the infirmary, but he present tip was further away considerably. 1111' John Williams (Conway): I have no recollec- "oon of any oomplaint made to the Corporation. Mr Wm. Williams (Llandudno): It was about two yer's ago. Inr Ed. Roberts: But those flies are dead now (loud laughter). Mr McOlement remarked that unle8s something were done at once the 11ies would have disappeared moreover, their Medical Officer of Health would be leaving the oountry shortly, so that if the Board meant to fight the Oonwa.y Oorporation over the matter they must proceed immediately, so 11.8 to k get Dr Fraser's services as &. wil;ne88. Mr John Williams sud there WII.8 no need for fighting. A special meetinc of the Corporation Would be held in a fortnight, and Mr Edward Roberta &1Id himsel1 would be glad to do all they could to have the nuisance abated if the Uorporation were responsible. Mr Roers Jones: I have a lot of fiie8 &t my house, and I have no tip near the place. Mr O. W. Roberts suggested that a sma1l committee be appointed to go into the whole question im. mediately." Mr McClement: And that this committee be em- powered to deal with the flies at once (laughter). Mr Raynes (smilingly): I move that the lady mem- l'B and Mr O. W. Roberts serve on the committee. The Chairman And you can call it the Flies Com- mittee if you like (roarl of laughter). GUARDIANS AS FLY-KILLERS. 111' Aneurin Jones: I think it would have been far better for us at the commencement to set about to- gether to kill the flies ourselves. We have been here talking for quite long enough & time to bave done it (laughter). Mr Ed Roberts I second that motion on the under- standing that Mr J onea provides us with a gun and powder and shot each (renewed laughter). Mrs Oldman vigorously protested against so muoh levity, and said this was a matter for pity and IIYDJpathy with the poor sufferers rather than for laughter. Mr Aneurin Jones: I beg your pardon, Mrs Old- man. I can assure rou that you have not a mono- rily of the good feeling existing for the poor people. Bay Mrs Oldman: I think that laughing at a nuisance Which troubles the poor people is not wortby of this BOArd. Mr Aneurin Jones said he claimed to be equally serious, and he was surprised that AJrs Oldman had stood the laughter which had been going on for 80 tong a time. He repeated Ulat if all the members had set about killing the flies themselves they would have done far more good than wasting valuable time Over so mueh talk. Mr W. Williams appealed to the Board to have nothing to do with a Flies Committee," otherwise they v-ould make themseles the laughing stock of the whole country. Mr Haynes gravely assured Mr Williams that he Wns quite serious over his suggestion that the ladies and Mr O. W. Roberts serve on the committee, because he felt that ladies would6e tar more suc- cessful in dealing with such a matter than men. Mrs Oldman If the Indies had been able to abate the lluisance it would have beem done 80 long ago. After some further discussion, much in the same strain, The Rev. J. Raymond said it did seem a pity that the Board shoulù waste so much time over so simple matter. Eventually, after two or three divisions, the ques- tion was referred to the Works Committee, who were given power to act. TOLICE BUILDINGS FOR 'LLANDUDNO. A pnOnST AGAINST PALATIAL ERECTIONS." In accordance with notice of motion, Mr McOlement Moved that the Board protest against the proposed expenditure of £ 7,000 on county police buildings at Llandudno. He said he need say little in support of the motion, because he felt sure that it would commend itself to all of them. He would, however, remind them of the faot that the Chief Constable for the county had stated at the last Police Oom- mittee meeting that he could not say ttIere was an absolute necessity for a police station or court room at Llandudno (hear, hear). On reading the report of the meeting it would be further seen that those who were not in touch with the ratepayers nor directly represented them in any way-namely the magistrates who served on the o0mmit,t.ee-were the persons who favoured the project, while the other lectiun of the committee-those members of the Oounty Council who were connected with it., men who directly represented and were in touch with the ratepayers—strongly opposed it. With the excep- tion of the Llandudno members, all the county coun- clllor TO the oommittee were against it (hear, hear). He argued that, as the Chief Constable had declared there was no necessity for the buildings; and that As the majority of the representatiHS of the rate, payers had pronounced against them, that, as the magIstrates did not represent the ratepayers, and, further, that. as the rates were already so very high, to spend the large sum of £ 7,000 on the projected buildins would be unjust. In addition to his motion, he wished to moyc that the Board request all the Unions throughout Carnarvonshire too adopt a similar resolution. Mr Aneurin Jones seconded. He held tIlat, ItS far as p,>ssible, people who weTe not directly in touch with, and responsible to, the ratepayers should not have the right to spend the ratepayers' monev. It was no doubt a laudable desire on the part of I Llandudno to possess palatial public buildings, in ke8ping with the remaining erections in the town, bt. when the money for such huilding were pro- vided. from the purses of the poor their voices should be heard over the matter. A SLIP. Mr O. W. Robert9, who rose to move an amend- JDent, said that at the outset he objected to the taction on tire ground that it had been seconded by a member of the Board who did not represent any part of the county concerned. Mr Aneurin Jones was a member residing in Denbighshire. Several cries of "You are wrong," and an emphatic denial from Mr Jones, followed ttiis assertion. Mr Roberts: Then I apologise to Mr Jones for my error. I thought he lived in Denbighshire. The Chairman You are not well acquainted with the geography of this place. Mt. Roberts: I will have to learn it. evidently (hear, hear). Continuing, 1\1r Roberts said that the need tor something other than the existing police station at 'Llandudno must be obvious to all who were acquainted with it (laughter), The building Was certainly not worthy of the town nor of the Col1nty, especially having regard for the fact that a larg-e proportion or the cost which would be entailed on the new buildings would be contributed by I.Iandudno iteH. The present police station was inadequate in size, diflkuJt of access, and out of the way (hear, hoar), while the magistrates' room was certainly unworthy of a piace ef the popuhltion and importance of Llandudno, for it was ulltJealthy small, and badly ventilated. M1' William Williams: But the magistrates meet at tl.e Town Hull hOW. Mr Ruberts said 11') waR referring to th old court ronm, but the fact that the Town Hall wa ttow used went to support his argument, because eveT. that pIac" was not suitable owing to its un. sa.tH q, 'torv Qceonlie properties. When the room was Cot "11 of peuple It. was most difficult to hear IJ. f):1,¡¡inesl transacted. South Carnarvonshire took

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