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YESTERDAY'S PROCEEDINGS. EVIDENCE FROM THE DIOCESE OF BANGOR. CHUROI WORK AT PENMAENMAWR. fACrra AND FIGURES BY CANON JONES. LONDON, WEDNESDAY. The Commission on the Welsh Church sat «M?Mn this morning at the Commission House. Palace Yard, the Commissioners present *J*>ng Lord Justice Vaughan Williams (in tho Arohdeaoon Evans, the Rev. Morgan gibbon, Lord Hugh Cecil, Sir F. Edwards, Sir John Williams and Mr J. II. VICAR OF PENMAENMAWR'S EVIDENCE The Thev. Canon David Jonee. Penmaenmawr, was called and examined by the Chairman. He said that he was Vioar of Dwygyfylohi-cum- PenmaeDmawi, Carnarvonshire, and non-resi- dentiary Canon of Bangor Cathedral- The population of the parish was 3533 according to the census of 1901. and the area was 3818 acres. The pariah extended along the sea coast of Carnarvonshire for about four miles, and in- land about the same distance. On the western side of the parish were the villages of Pen- maenrnawr and Penmaenan, and on the east- ern side the small hamlet of Dwygyfylchi. There were two granite quarriea in the parish employing over 1000 hands the remainder of the population consisted of lodging-house keep- ers on the seaboard and a few of the pro- fessional class with a considerable increase of summer visitors. The Welsh language was chiefly in use. There were three churches—St. Gwynan's, the Parish Churoh, St. Seiriol's, and St. David's—accommodating respectively 220, 285, and 350, making a total accommodation of 1165. Th^, Sunday eervices at St. Gwynan's i-noluded morning prayer and sermon in Welsh at 10 am.. Holy Communion (Welsh), at the same hour on the first Sun- day in each month. At 11.15 Holy Communion in English on the second Sunday. English prayer and sermon at 3.30 p.m. and in Welsh at 6 p.m. At St. Seiriol's and at St. David's there were also services in Welsh and English on different Sundays. Week-day services werft also held at the three ehnuohtes- Communicant's on the list number- ed 433. In 1905 there were 22 baptisms, 50 confirmed, 6 marriages, and 18 burials. There were Sunday Schools attached to the three churches with a total of 205 scholars under 15, and 100 over 15. Of these 45 over 15, and 42 un- der that age belonged to the St. Gwynan's Church, 37 under 15 and 4 over 15 to St. Seiriol's, and 123 over and 52 under to St. David's. There were engaged at the sohools 22 male teachers and 9 female teachers. Re- ferring to the parish work and organisation the witness said that the staff consisted of the vicar, two curates, and eight district visitors. During the winter months only there were mothers' meetings. Bible classes for men, Bi'ble classes mixed a Church Instruction Class (St. David's) a monthly parochial Church Council, and a girl's sewing olass- There were also cthiildriein's meeting, and a children's penny ba.nk all the year round. The Chairman: With the exception of the children's meetings and the children's penny bank all the others are for the winter months only ? Witness said that that was so. The child- ren's penny bank funds were distributed once a year. There was also a children's temper- ance meeting—really a Band of Hope. The work of a Band of Hope meeting was in- cluded but other subjects were introduced as well. The Chairman: I am not able to understand how thrift is taught by having a penny bank, the fund of which is distributed eaoh Christmas. Then as to literature Witness said that there was a Parish Maga- zine. another monthly publication which he had edited for some years. There was also a library in connection with the two National Scthools, from which books were lent to child- ren to take home to read. The "Parish Maga- zine" eirculatei to the extent of about 150 oopies monthly, the other publication, the "Cyfaill Eglwysig," reached about 75 oopie6 a month, and about 25 oopies of a Church Welsh newspaper were also circulated Passing to financial matters, the witness stated the incumbent's income to be 9216 gross and J6207 net, with house. The income of the two curates was 2260. The voluntary contributions to Church purposes 1905-6 amount- ed to E1153 6s 7d made up as follows: — Clergy, J6334 9s 9d; Church expenses, JB220 4s; Church societies, f,302 7s 6d; poor and hos- pitals. E17 4s; Church buildings j337 109 3d; school buildings, JB232 56 8d; and other pur- poses, JE9 5s 5d. MR GLADSTONE'S GENEROSITY RECALLED. The Chairman, dealing with the detail,3 of the Church accounts given by the witness, called attention to an item of £ 141 for a be'l at St. Seiriol s, and asked from what source that sum had been obtained. Witness said that when Mr Gladstone laid the foundation-stone of the tower of that ohurch he promised to provide a bell, and he did so. The Chairman asked whether the witness was willing to co-operate in matters other than those associated with the duties of the ministry, matters affecting the well-being of the community generally, with the Noncon- formists ? Witness replied in the affirmative. A PESSIMISTIC VIEW "ON THE WHOLE." Examined by Mr Davies, Witness said that he had taken a great interest in the history of Wales, and had written a great many books on the subject. Mr Davies: Are you pessimistic about the reli- gious state of the Principality? Witness: Yes; on the whole, I am. Mr Davies: As far as Wales is concerned, you, say that at the present day things are not much better than they were a century ago? Witness: In some gense they are, and in some sense they are not. I think that the defection from the faith is more general now than tlIen. The Chairman: Do you limit that to Wales? Witness: No; I do not. Further replying to Mr Davies, Witness said that Nonconformist places of worship had in- creased in numbers of late years. He had a large acquaintance with the rural districts. Would you say that from 100,000 to 200,000 of the population of North Wales go to no place of worship ? Witness: I would not like to say that. Mr Davies: Would it not be true tha.t nearly everybody in the rural districts go to Church or chapel ? Witness: I would not say that because there is always a margin of non-worshippers. Mr Davies: But the number of non Church or chapel goers is a very small percentage accord- ing to the statistics. Witness: In the case of Anglesey, the returns account for more than the population. Mr Davies: There has been a steady and large increase in the Church in South Wales. Has it been also the case in North Wales?—Yes. From what class is that increase drawn: from the non-cha^pel goers. Witness said that from his experience it was drawn from both non-chapel and non-Church goerg. Mr Davies asked whether he did not" think that that was a proof of the approaching union of the different classes? Did he not think they were getting nearer to one another? Witness said the question was a difficult one to answer. Mr Davies: Do you think it is a good sign? Witness: I do not think the political section are drawing nearer to the Church; but, amongst some classes there is a kind of sympathy. Mr Davies: Do you think that all these funds for building mission houses, etc., are not evi- denoo that religion is gaining ground in Wales? Witness; I do not think so. It proves that there are people who are making efforts. THE CHAIRMAN INTERPOSES. Mr Davies was asking the witness further questions when The Chairman interposed, observing he was travelling away from the terms of referenoe. When he found that that was being done, it was his duty to interfere, although he was loth to take a course which any Commissioner might think discourteous. Examination continued by Mr Davies: There was a Parochial Church Council, which was not a new organisation. The work of the Council was for the purpose of consultation as to the promotion of any Church work in the parish. Both the Church and Nonconformists might de- rive advantage from co-operation. Mr Davies asked whether it was within wit- ness' knowledge that a number of Nonconform- ists had become ministers of the Established Church? The Chairman again pointed out that the ex- amination was tending beyond the terms oi re- ference. Mr Davies asked what proinortion of the clergy in the Diocese of Bangor had been brought up as Nonconformists? Witness said he could not say, as it had never oocurred to him to think of it. Mr Davies asked whether he thought that on the lines of interchange the Established Church and the Nonconformists could be brought nearer together? Witness: I could not say. Examined by the Rev. Morgan Gibbon, the witness denied that the "Parish Magazine" was political, but he admitted thai he had written in it what he thought was the danger to religion from politics. Mr Gladstone, he said, gave the bell and the Communion Service to the new Church, and Mrs Gladstone came down to open a. bazaar once, but he did not find that beyond that the Gladstone family assisted in the Church work. A COLWYN BAY WITNESS. The Rev. Thomas Lloyd. English Congrega- tional minister of Colwyn Bay, was the next witness. Examined, lie said that he was the oldest minister at Colwyn Bay, having been there for 24 years, and gave evidenoe as to the work of tiie Congregational church in the town. — The witness was still under examination vraen the Commission adjourned.

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GEIRIONYDD 1 RUB AX* DISTRICT COUNCIL. COST OF CWM WATER WORKS. The monthly meeting of the above Coun- cil was held on Wednesday (yesterday), oit the Lluorwst Workhouse, when there were present, the Rev. John Gower (chairman), Mr J. LI. Morris (vioe-obairman), Rev. J. Ll. Richards, and Mr T. T. Roberts, DoJ- wyddelen; Messrs D. G. Jones, Maenan; Ed. Roberts, Cwm; E. W. Roberts, Pen- maohno; and Evan Williams, Gapel Curig; with the clerk (Mr R. R. Owen), and the surveyor (Mr R. H. Williams). LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TO BE TAKEN. Upon the reading of the minutes, the Clerk reported that no reply had been re- ce'ive'd from Mesans Grootn, timber merchants Penmaenmawr, respecting the application of the Council for in settlement of their claim for alleged e^traordin&rv traffic on the Dylasia-road, Ysbytty. The Council decided to take proceedings against the merchants. YSBYTTY ROADS. In reply to an application to support them, the Ysbytty Parish Council wrote sta- ting that they did not think it advisable to ask the County (I-otilicill to take over the old ioad from Pantglas to Ysbytty, but rather to ask them to take over the new road. Mr D. G. Jonee proposed, and Mr Lloyd Morris seconded, that the Council make application to the County Council as sug- gested, and this was agreed to. CWM WATER WORKS. The engineer (Mr Mclntyre), wrote re- gretting that owing to the state of the weather, he had been unable to examine the valves at the Owm Water Works, but he hoped to be a.ble to make a report upon the same during the week. INSURANCE. The Clerk reported that the fiska under the Compensation Act amounted to JE900, and he had received terms from different firms. It was deoided tibat the clerk should ask for further particulars from two firms, and to accept the the lowest. PENMACHNO SCHOOL. The Board of Education wrote stating that they liad drawn the attention of the local education authority to the subject mentioned tin the Counoil's last letter re the state of the Penmaohno School. PROPOSED LENGTHENING OF THE TREFRIW LIGHT RAILWAY. A letter was read from Messrs Nicholson aril Co., solicit ors of the Abbey, Dolgar- rog and lYefriw Light Railway asking the Council to what extent they would be prepared to contribute towards the expense of constructing a line from Trefriw to Llanrwst, as applied for by them. If there was sufficient local support forthcoming, they were prepared to apply for an order in November next for the extension of the fcne. The Chairman: I think we had better adjourn this question to see how much the town of Llanrwst will contribute. THE ISOLATION HOSPITAL. A communication was road from the Carnarvonshire Joint Committee re the smallpox isolation hospital, but the Garionydd Council decided not to make any move irt the matter. VITAL STATISTICS. The Medical Officer of Health reported I that during May there were 15 births and 13 deaths, making a total death rate of j1,000, as against 11 births and 7 j1,000, as against 11 births and 7 dearths, for the corresponding month last yeair. ADJOURNED. An application by the Trefriw Parish Council for urban powers to carry out cer- tain improvements was adjourned until the next meet.ing. MAIN ROADS. to suPPort the resolution or the Settle District Council which was in favour of the rnuin roads being .supported by a national charge. COST OF CWM WATER WORKS. The Clerk reported that he had made a statement of the cost of the Cwm Pen- machno Water Works, and the items men- tioned by h.m were received with consider- able surprise by some of the members They were as follows:—Paid law charges on loan, £ 13 Is; do. contractors, £ 800; do. J. Hughes, engineer, £ 92; do. clerk of works, £ /4 19B 3d; compensation to Messrs Bowen and Son, £ 20; total £ 1,000 Os 2d. Expenses connected with dispute be- tween the Counctl and the Contractors:— ^r W.R. Roberts, solicitors' bill of coats. £ 112 19s od; Mr McLntyre's charges, £ 32 Thos. Jones, London, £ 5 as; « TT £ AR,R-V' Bettwsvcoed, £ 1 lis 6d; Mr n • Williams, £ 5; total, £ 156 19s 9d. of completing Works—Labourers, £ b2 7s 6d; materials, £ 40 12s 6ti; team I,a,bour, L4.5; Mr Mclntvre's charges, je24 19s Id; total R172 96. B^annC.e-^uer. to contractors for settle- ment, LI-50; for compensation, £ 10; mak- ing a total of £1,489 18s lid. The amount of- loan obtained oame to £ 1,053, so that a sum of R436 18is lid was n rprmirarl -&. j apply foir a loan <>f ±,4. and the bilk, which were stated by the Clerk to be submitted for information onily, were referred to the Finance Coon- mittee. An honorarium of ten guineas and a hearty vote of thanks were aooorded to the clork- for tdw ivork- he hWd done in ron- nection with this matter. ALLEGED POLLUTION AT DOL WYDDELEN. The Surveyor reported that two Dol- W farmers had contrary to a notice served upon them, w-ahed a numbei- of sheep m the Bertheoe stream thereby polluting the DoJwyddelen water' supply it was ultimately decided to apply for R,n inj n ncilbon, i-eat,raiziizig them from using the stream for such a purpose. WATER SUPPLY. d nation was mad from Mr Robert Williams, Dolwyddeten, enclosing his terms for the use of water from a quarry which was in his possession, and the Council decided to refer the letter to thereon CounoiJ for observations

RUTHIN PETTY SESSIONS. CHARGE ACAINST A PUBLICAN. These sessions were held on Monday, before Captain John Jenkins (in the chair), the Mayor, and Mr Thoe- Jones. DRUNK AND DISORDERLY. George Owen and Harry Williams, who were strangers to the town. were summoned for being drunk and disorderly on the 22nd inst, «wBtn^DdAritA^Terrfvfii,ed costs. SERVING A CHILD AND THE SEQUEL Hugh Griffiths, of the White Horee Inn, Hen- are r yVydu Llangynhaf&J, was summoned for supplying a bottle of stout to a girl under 14 yeare of age on the 22nd June. The girl's mother Mrs .vlary Eyaua—was a!&o summoned for sending her daughter for the drink, con- trary to the provisions of the Act Mr A. O. Evane appeared for both defend- ants. The evidence for the prosecution was that 011 h€ evening in question, P.O. T C Williams saw the girl Margaret Joy Evan*' proceeding to the White Horse- When the girl came out, he questioned her, and found a bottle of stout in Iter possession. The girl ad- niii t.hai she had been served with the drink in the public house. ^r. .9- Evans, for the defence, argued that, the lioenoee was not aware of the offence the stout having been served by his wife in his abeenoe. In /Mpard to Mrs Evana', eihe had merely directed her daughter to order "the stout. The Bench considered that an offence had been committee, although not a serious one. and fined both defendants Is and costs Mr A. 0. Evans argued that the decision of tl4> Bench was against the evidence, and on his application, the magistrates agreed to state a eaee.

WEATHER OBSERVATIONS AT BETTWSYCOED- For the week ending Saturday. June 29, 1907. Mem maximum (in shade) 59. Mean minimum (in sihade) 46.2 Highest in shade 61. Lowtest in shade 42/ Maximum in the Run 129. Lowest on the grass 41, Bright sunshine 37.0 hours. Mean amount of cloud 70.7 per cent. Observer: Dr H. W. FOX.

PENMAENMAWR UBBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL. THE RIGHT TO FISH IN THE RESERVOIR. The monthly meeting of the Penniaenmawr Urban District Council was held on Tue&day afternoon, when Mr W. D. Jones presided, and the other members precent were: Colonel C. H. Darbis-hire, Mr R. D. Jones, Dr. Jenkins, Messrs J. S. Cfoverley, S. Williams, R. E. Williams. Richard Williams, D. Jones, R. D. Owen, and E. Davies, together with Messrs T. E. Parry (clerk), J. W. Poet (deputy clerk), R. J. Hughes (sur- veyor), and John Owen (collector). SUMMER SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY. A letter was read from the secretary of the Summer School of Theology applying for per- mission to held a meeting on the bands on Sunday, August 4th. Permission was granted. VITAL STATISTICS. It was reported that the number of births in the district during the month of June was seven, and the deaths two. THANKS TO THE POSTMASTER GENERAL. Upon the recommendation of the Estate Com- mitteo it was decided to thank the Postmaster General for extending the hour of poet in g to ten p.m. from the 1st of July to September 30th. TELEPHONE FOR DWYGYFYLCHI. The Council decided to request the National Telephone Company to provide a. pubiiic call office at the village of Dwygyfylchi. FISHING IN THE RESERVOIR. The Water and Sewerage Committee recom- mended that in consideration of Mr Knectshaw stocking the reservoir at Tan-y-Cwm with fish, the sole right of fishing there be granted him. Colonel Darbishire, in moving the adoption of the committee's recommendation, said that to have fish in the reservoir would benefit the water. Mr Kneeshaw went to the expense of supplying the fish, and if they allowed everyone to angle there it would be detrimental to the water supply. Possibly the best way would have been for the Council to buy the fish, and grant per- mission to a. certain number of the public to angle upon payment of a stipulated sum. Mr David Jones seconded, and it was carried. The Chairman pointed out that it should be understood they were not conferring any favour upon Mr Kneeshaw. He desired to point this out, as there had been some talk about tho mattef in the town. THE VACATION. It was decided to grant the usual fortnight's leave of absence to the surveyor, and upon the motion of Colonel C. H. Darbishire it was also resolved that no Council meeting be held during August. DELEGATES. Dr. J. R. Williams, Dr. H. Jenkins, and the Surveyor were appointed to represent the Coun- cil as delegates to the conference of sanitary inspectors to be held at Llandudno from Septem- ber 16th to 21st.

CHARGES OF THEFT FROM AUTOMATIC MACHINES AT PENMAENMAWR. 715 DISCS FOUND. At Conway Petty Sessions, on Monday, before Mr Albert Wood and other magistrates, five lads, namely, David Barlow, age 14, of 10, Water-street; R. H. Owen, age 14, of 4, Cwm- ias; J. T. Griffiths, age 17, of 16, Chapel street; R. O. Critchlev, age 14, erf 32, High-street; and D. J. Rowlands, age 12, of 20, Erasmus-street, all of Penmaenmawr, were charged with steal- ing sweetmeats from an automatic machine on the Promenade of that town by inserting tin discs instead of pennies in the machine. Mr Lewis, Bangor, who appeared to prose- cute, on behali of the Automatic Sweetmeat Company, said that there had been wholesale pilfering from the automatic machines for some time, and asked that the boys, if found guilty, should be punished in such a manner as to prove a deterent to others. On April 25th, a supply of sweetmeats were put into the machine, and on May 21st, when the stock was checked, it was found that sweetmeats to the value of 10& 7d had been extracted by the use of bad coins, pieces of tin, etc. The total number of tin discs found in the machine, between April 25th and June 20th, was 715, which represented a total loss to the company of L2 196 7d. The amount of good money found in the machine during the same period was £ 2 18s 7d, so that more than half the stock had been extracted dishonestly. Robert Mavler, Manchester, an inspector in: the employ of the company, 6aid that on April 25t.h, he put the machines in working order, and on May 21st, they contained 127 tin discs; on June 5th, he found more, and on June 20th he found several hundreds. Between 7 p.m., on June 20th, and 8.30 the following morning, 19 discs had been inserted in the macihine. P.C. Owen stated that on June 17th, between 9.30 and 10 p.m., he saw the lad Owen inter- fering with the machine, and noticed him pull the drawer back several times. Critchlev was on the sands about 10 or 15 yards away. Owen went down and gave him something. He (the officer) charged Oritchley with inserting a tin disc in the slot, and he admitted it. He then went to see R. H. Owen when the lad's mother handed him 110 tin discs (produced). Later, he gained information about the other boys con- cerned, and visited them, when they all admit- ted the offence. The Chairman asked what dividend the Sweet- meat Automatic Company paid, and a repre- sentative in Court replied that they paid live per cent. In answer to Mr Allanson, witness said it was not the weight but the size of the penny that worked the machine. The tin discs had been cut to the same size as an ordinary penny. George Barlow, father of one of the lads, said the defendants had been taught how to make the tin discs by boys who came to Penmaen- ma.wr in the summer months. The Chairman said the temptation afforded bv the machines often induced boye to steal, but as they did not want to make criminals of the boys, they would all be fined as followsBar- low, Griffiths, and Rowlands, 10s and costs; Owen and Critchley, 56 and co&ta.

THE NEW HOUSE TAX. HOUSEHOLDERS RUSH TO INSURE. GREAT DEMAND FOR POLICIES UNDER SERVANTS ACT. On Monday, the Workmen's Compciisation Act of 1906 came into operation, and the respon- sibilities of householders and other employers &re heavily increased. During the whole time a. servant, who comes under the provisions of the Act, is incapaci- tated by injury, even if it be for life, compensa- tion has to be paid. Householders have promptly taken, gteps to cover their risks by insurance. Never have insurance oompanies had a busier time than during the past few weeks. They have been inundated with applications for poli- cies, end busy answering questions from morn- ing until night. The only classes of servant, or workman, ex- cluded from the benefits of the Act, are 1.—Those who earn over £ 250 a year by labour other than manual. 2.-Tlho,se whose employment is of a labour other than manual. 2.—Those whose employment is of a casual nature, and who are employed other- wise than for the purposes of the employer's trade or business. 3.—A member of the employers family, living in his house. Even the foreigner—the alien who may land on our shores to-day—comes within the" scope of the measure should he be lucky enough to secure regular employment. The premiums demanded by the insurance companies a.mount to only a few shillings, while the load of anxiety they remove from the em- ployer's shoulders is enormous. Take the case of a small household. ia I legal liability under the Workmen's Compel, eation Act, 1906; Employers' Liability Act. löùÜ; Fatal Accidents Act, 1846; and at common law. may be insured against for the following rates Nureemaid, per annum 26 6d Housemaid, per annum 2s 6d Cook, per &nnum 26 6d Handy man, per annum 5s Od Total, per annum 126 6d Or, for 226 6d, the same number of servants may be insured agaanst all the risks enumejated above, and in addition may be certain of im- mediate .payment of compensation on the basis of the Workmen's Compensation Aot, 1906. with full wages for one month from date of accident, and reasonable medical expenses—not exceeding £ 5—for any one accident. Some uncertainty exists as to the interpreta- tion to be placed on the expression "casual" P, employment. Take, for example, the charwoman. If you a.rra.nge with her to come once or twice a week, regularly, you establish a contract of service, and are liable to pay compensation if she should have an accident while working for you. If, however, you merely employ her "casu- ally," sending out for her occasionally when you want her, then there is no contract of eervioe, and no liability under the Act. The same principle applies to the window- cleaner, the odd-job man, and other people whose services you may call upon from time to time* I

CORRESPONDENCE. MR ELLIS J. GRIFFITH, M.P., AND THE CLAIMS OF WALES. THE GOVERNMENT AND DISESTAB- LISHMENT. {To the Editor of the ''Pioneer,") Sir,—The triumphant viotory of Liberalism in Wales at the last genera' election raised high hopes amongst the Welsh people. It was confidently believed that fidelity to Liberal principles for two generations was at length to be rewarded. The silence of Cabinet Mini- sters with legard to re'igioue equality in Wales was somewhat ominous, but it was not until the deferment beyond the third session that anxiety gave way to disappointment. For the last eighteen months I have urged the necessity of obtaining a clear pledge from the Government. During the last few weeks the Welsh Disestablishment controversy h:6 become more and more prominent, and the need of a clear understanding more and more pronounced. The do-nothing policy has hard- ly an advocate, and there is no one who ser- iously thinks that the Welsh cause can be advanoed except by action. It is true that I have been advised to induce the Welsh mem- bers to educate the country rather than press the Government for a definite pledge. For my own part I think it is easier and more pro- fitable for the country to eduetto Welsh mem- bers than for Welsh members to educate the country. Wales has done its electoral duty with absolute unanimity. Walea does not need political education; all that Wales needs is to leam dtermination and unity and to transmit these qualities to its representatives- A half-hearted effort has been made to as- sert that Wales iij absolutely contented with the present political situation and displays no impatience- This is in patent contradiction of the actual facts- The Independents and Calvinifltio Methodiats at meetings represent- ing the two denominations throughout the whole of Wales havft already spoken emphatically. The Free Churches of Wales are united in their demands. The Liberal Press of North and South Wales is brimful of evidence that the^ Welsh people are restive and unsatisfied. The deputation of Welsh members who wait- ed on the Prime Minister received scant prac- tical encouragement, though the pretss sum- mary of the interview was unaccountably hopeful. Yesterday we had the sanction of tihe Prime Minister to the contents of a letter addressed to trie Rev. El vet Lewis. It is Signifi- OOTlt that this letter was written with a view to being read at a meeting of the Congregation- alisms in South Wales where a drastic Dises- tablishment resolution was proposed. and was, in faot, passed. It is doubly significant that. wrnle the Welsh members failed to obtain any promise, conditional or unconditional, from the Government, the Rev. Elvet Lewis was able to obtain a further declaration of the tL intension of the Government- If one Non- conformist Minister can obtain this result, what will the united efforts of the Noncon- formist ministers of Wales secure? The "first, available opportunity" and "the earliest possible moment" have now been supplemented by a declaration that, subject to conditions of time, it is the fntent.on of the Government- to p ss a Wel:s;h ment Bill through the House of C. j. 1,10ns during this Parliament. How does Ihs fur- ther assuronce odd to t.he former primises? J.he practical substance of these vari-jjs :Ie- clarations is that if there be time and oncor. tunity then the BiU will b3 passed thimgh the commons. But who is to provide t'me and opportunity ? Who is to decide the length ,bf ithe present Parliament? Obvio-uslv the Governme,nt. Their majority is such that at any rate as far as the duration of Parliament is concerned they are omnipotent. The Prime Minister has declared that the House of Lords' Bill will be introduced at such time as he de- termines. It appears that the third session is already allocated, but no one lia6 ever in- formed us whether in such allocation the claims of Welsh Disest-ablillzhment were con- I and rejected or merely ignored- vv nat then of the fourth session ? When is vne allocation of the fourth session to be n <i' j Welsh Disestablishment be re- membered or again forgotten? c ^he future of the political situation one tact stands out plain and clear. The dissolu- t-ion will not, in the absence of a nolit-ical catastrophe, arrive a day earlier than the Government desires. The normal length of a Parliament edging by recent experience, is not less than five and a half vears. This allows an ample opportunity for "the introduo- tion of the W elsh Disestablishment Bill after conceding one nation to th« House of Lords th? ifot7 r5Tmberec5 tllat in letter to ,ls 6tat€d Welsh Disestablishment is to be in the forefront aJll(>Dgel. the matters which the next Parliament- 't ltf upcnTto £ °aI with- Do«s this carrv us any further. In JanQarv, 1906 the Prime Minister said "That Welsh Disestablishment re- mained an integral portion of the Liberal Pro- gramme, and would be dealt with at the first available opportunity." Therefore, the value of tiie new assurance depends upon what is meant by the position of being in the "forefront of the measures to be dealt with bv the new Par- liament. It cannot mean earlier than the first possible moment which is our pledge for this Parliament. Is Welsh Disestablishment to be a first, second, or third measure? Unless it be amongst the first two or three measures it can- 110-nu r,Sa i be in the forefront. Ihe fact that we should be driven to discuss tno measures of a Parliament that wLi not be elected for some years is a sure sign that the Welsh question is being relegated to a. distant and ever receding future. There are three points to be kept in view. Ihe hrst is, that after the introduction and ra^^fgDM.ug t £ je Commons of ihe House of Lords Bid, there will be a dissolution. Second- ly, that if Welsh Disestablishment is to be pad through the Commons this Parliament it must pass before the House of Lords1 Bill is introduced. Thirdly, that the Government is the sole arbiter of when the House of Lords' Bill is to be introduced: and thoØ.-n;M t whether the Welsh Disestablishment Bill will be introduced in the Commons this Parliament or not. It is, therefore, abundantly clear that the Government have the power to proceed with Welsh Disestablishment if they wish. If they do not proceed with it, in this Parliament it will not be the power but the wish that will be at fault. It is said, in answer to our demands, that the House of Lords blocks the way. But does it9 The Government are to introduce Temperance and Education Bills next Session. Does the House of Lords block the way of there measures? If not, why should Welsh Disestablishment be the only measure in regard to which the House of Lords paralyses a.11 Parliamentary efforts' Irish measures, Scotch measures, Labour mea- sures, are introduced in this Parliament. Why should the Welsh question be the only one to be arrested by anticipatory fears of 'the Upper The apologists for delay seem to regard the present and the next Parliament as almost ii7r favourable opportunities for dealing wnth Wales. I, however, prefer the overwhelm- ing Liberal majority of the present House of Commons to the chances of a less efficient maio- ri H011&6 of Commons. Th? Practical quest-ion remains. Are the Welsh people to make any further efforts to secure Welsh Disestablishment being pressed through the Commons this Parliament Are they to remain satisfied and wait to see what will turn up? They have waited forty yearR-a. con- siderable time even in the life of a nation. The Joint Committee of two great Nonconformist, denominations, which has just been appointed, will no doubt consider the point. I am fully per- suaded that Welsh Nonconformists, and especially Welsh Nonconformist ministers, can even now induce the Government to pass the Welsh Dises- tablishment Bill through the Commons in this Parliament. To do this the Government only needs time. Fortunately, Governments can make time-if they earnestly desire it.—I am, et-c., ELLIS J. GRIFFITH. House of Commons, 2nd July, 1907.

LLANFAIRTALHAIARN SCHOOL. (To the Editor of the "Pioneer.") Sir,—Mr D. S. Davies, of Denbigh, has made certain statements with regard to Llanfairtal- baiarn school which call for notice. He states tihait the enlargement, of the Council echoed wouJd cost the neighbourhood about L35 per -annum. The estimated cost of this enlargement is now £ 1650. With interest and repayment of capital this would amount to a yearly charge, not, of £ 35, but of something <>yer LBO per annum. Observe the quaJifying word "the neighbonmood." If by this Mr Davies means Llanfair parish, he should know that only half the cost- falls upon the parish, amd that the other half must. be paid by tihe county ratepayers. Mr Davies ignores tihw fact. Moreover," the cost per obiki in the Denbighshire provided schools to the ratepayers is £ 1 lO more than the Go- vernment grants. The addition of thirty child- ren to the Llanfair provided school wou'd, therefore, amount to another £ 45 per annum'. Mr Davies bas omitted some very important facts. A majori,t-y of the Llanfair ratepayers have petitioned against the closing of the Church school. The last County Council elec- tion in March was fought on tlw's issue, and the verdict of the electors was against the clos- ing of the Church school. It seems probable tfoa/t the ratepayers of Llanfair know their own interests better tihan Mr D. S. Davies does. At any rate, if Mr Davies' knowledge of edu- foatiooaj efficiency is not greater than the know- — A ledge his letter displays of the value of evi- dence the ratepayers of Llanfair are wine in declining to accept him as a guide. Yfhj should Mr Davies and his friends upon the Education Committee force this needless expen- diture upon a pariah which does not wiflh for it, and upon ratepayers of whom a majority" have petitioned against- it? The relative merits of the education given m" the Council school and the National School is a matter of opinion, in which I do not agree with Mr Daviee. II. r. Inspedtors' reports upon the National School support my view.—I am, ew" S. SANDBACH. H-afodunce, Abergele, (Ooloned). June 28th, 1907.

(To the Editor of the "Pioneer"). Srir,—In your last issue charges are made against the Denibi^hahire County Council by Colonel Sandbadh. I can claim to know some- thing of the affairs of the Council School, as I was chairman to the late School Board for 18 years. The education authority axe only car- rying out what the Conservative Government left in their hand.?. That efforts have been made to onUce children from the Council School to the National School ). pure imagination, but I can prove that this has been the case regard- ing ohiildron attiending the Council Schools. I have always been against children moving from one school to another, and have endea- voured witah two former rectors to try and oome to some arrangemeinit, but to no purpose. I wonder whether Colonel Saxidhadh is aware that one year pressure was brought to bear on some of the parents of children attending the Council Sohool to send their children to the 1'r National School, and that. within two months of the end of the school year, with the resuJt that the School Board lost £ 10 in Government grants. Is Colonel Sandbach aware that His Majesty's inspector continually reported the necessity of increased accommodation? I feel certain that. if Colonel Sandbach had taken the trouble to ascertain the real facts, he would have hesitated before sending such accusations to the press. He also refers to a large number of vacant houses in the village. I admit that there are a few, owing to the stoppage of the mines, but I am told on good authority that the works will be in full swing again before long, and the consequence will be a great dearth of sani- tary houses as the.re was before. The National School authorities derive cer- tam income from two farms, and are reslxm- sible for putting the houses into a proper con- dition. 1 believe it is about 15 yea-re since the Charity Commission held an inquiry here. The Commissioner then distinctly stated that one- half of the rent of Ffrith-yr-Hirdir Farm was to go to the School Board, but when that body applied for the same it was refused. Thus, this parish has losit JES per a.nnum, or JS90 for the 15 years. Had the money been paid since the formation of the School Board it would have meaant £ 180—a distinct Joes to the parish. Colonel Sandbach has made another mistake. I wonder where he got, his information from a6 to the cost of re-bui'Iding the wall and cov- ering the brook. Is he aware i-hat the re- taining wall of the brook had to be re-built, and that the road alongside of the brook was very narrow? How would it happen if the colonel came up in his motor before the altera- tions and met a cart or same other vehicle? The consequence would be that one vehicfie or the other would have to give way. The au- thority decided to widen the road and to cover the brook, which was nothing other than a receptacle for house refuse. It was covered from a sanitary peint of view, and it was done on the recommendation of the medical officer of heaJth. I understand the actual cost was JE135 15s. Of tÎlÙ sum the County Council contributed £ 60, because a part of the brook belongs to that authority. The remaining ex- penditure fall upon the St. Asaph (Denbigh) Rural District Council, which comprises ten parishes, with a rateable value of £ 70,000. This sum at a id per £ would produce £73-<IDlv a trifle short, of the balance. The rateable va.1 ue of this Pa-risb is £ 6590, being E4450 upon land and £ 2140 on buildings. The proportion farnn.g on Llanfa-ir would therefore be. at the rate of a id per JB, about £ 6 17s 6d. But we must remember that tihe Exchequer contributes half the rates on agricultural land, so that, strictly speaking, the actual cost upon this par- would be £ 4 lis 6d. after deducting the haif paid by the Exchequer. So that to state the improvements cost £ 300 is al-*urd.-I am, tc., W. GRIFFITH. Lkuifa1 rtalhaiarn.

THE DUST NUISANCE IN CA R NARVONS HIRE. (To the Sditor of the "Pioneer.") ,,ir -While county survsyons all over the kingdom are cxperimeting with a view to the mitigation of the dust nuisance it has been reserved for the brilliant intellects of the Car- narvonshire authorities to devise a method of increasing it; a method which has the addi- tional virtue (?) of injuring the same time their rivals in dut muling-the motorists and cyclists- This 18 achieved by laying at inter- vals on the main road between Penmaenrhos and Llanddulas Quarries, small patches of sharp chippinge, which, as all road surveyors know, will not set on a macadamised road, 'and which, after fulfilling their primary function of puncture-making, are quickly pulverised into dust- of a particularly irritating oharacte- Lest, however. th« supplv of tins dusf- should be insufficient, the authorities have kindlv re- frained from scraping or brushing the road fcr some months, so that there is a nice little re- ser^e of caked mud all along the south side only waiting a spell of hot weather to be ground into dust. Meanwhile the roadman in charge continues calmly at work breaking stones; like the lotor eaters "careless of man- .r slightly alter Tennyson's words: "For, he sits upon his stone heap while the 'cues' is freely hurled just below him in the roadway where the clouds of dust are -whirled —I am. etc,, A SUFFERER.

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