The Welsh Coast Pioneer and Review for North Cambria

BANGOR AND BEAUMARIS UNION EMPLOYMENT OF EX-SOLDIERG. Friday's meeting of the Board if Guardians of the Bangor a.nd 13eaurnaris Union, with Mr Hugh Thomas in the chair, discussed the point whether in appoiilltilIlg a porter preference should be given to an ex-soldier who bad been through the South African War, and was strongly recommended by Sir Richard Bulkeley. The Chairman: There is another iiuun from Beaumaris who has twice tried for the ooet. Mr W. R. Janes said that was a good man, and he proposed that he be appointed tempo- rarily for Q. month. The Rev. Mr Morgan raid he d, not wish to divide the Board, but the uain he had in mind h>ad been serving his country, and he would rather stand by a man who had been standing by his country. Mr Joseph Davies: If we can assist man who has b^en fighting for hie country I think wo ought to do so. He proposed that the man re- ferred to by Mr Morgan be appointed for a nront h Mr Morgan seconded, and said the man (named Jarvis) was one of the men chosen after the war for settlement in South Africa, but, unfortunately, that settlement did not prove eatisfactorv, and he had to come home. Mr Thomas Edwards: If his character is D8 good as it was before he went oulj to the war Be is an excellent man. After some further discussion, Mr Joseph Davies, with much seriousness, said Jarvis over 6ft high, and if we engaged him wou'd add diigmity to the house. A snout of laugh- ter greeted this statement, but it apparently converted the, Board, for on a dioision Jarvis Was appointed for a month by a largo maji- ritv. A GENEROUS OFFER. The Clerk announced that Lady Penrhyn had intimated hor willingness to maintain at the Home for Waif6 and a girl who was over age, The offer was accepted with gratitude.

COLWYN BAY WATER SUPPLY RHIW RESERVOIRS TO BE REPAIRED. A SUBSTANTIAL SCHEME REDUCED. Formidable though their task is the Colwyn Bay Urban District Council are determined to pursue their scheme for the improvement of he town's water supply. It has been wisely lealised that the local exchequer will not easily oear tha cost of completing the undertaking at once, and, pending the conclusion of the protr-actèd iKgct a- tions with the Cowlyd Water Board with r- f- r- ence to the construction "f a new main from Sarnymynach, the Council are finuhing, itep by ctep, the arrangements which they must carry out in their own district. The new service reservoir for the higher lev <« successfully opened a few weeks ago, was a. part of the scheme, and with a vLw to cnpir.g with the difficulty of storing water tor the lower levels it is intended to bring the old Rhiw reser- r..6 again into use. The Engineer (Mr William Jones), who re- ported upon the matter on Tuesday, supplied some informa-tion relating to the two disused storages which will be read with interest by many of our readers. Mr Wm. Jones said: The smaller of the two reservoirs was constructed in 1867 by the late Sir John Pender, who first formed the water works for Colwyn Bay, and the larger by the Estate Company in 1877 to meet the growing demand.* of the quickly developing district. The smaller reservoir is capable of holding nearly 300,000 gallons of water, and tho larger has a capacity of over 400,000 gallons, so that the capacity of bothe represents the present consump- tion of the district for one day. TWELVE YEARS HENCE. If, however, the Council thought it necessary they could be made to hold one million gallons of water, which will be (with the present rate of progress) the daily demand of the district at the end of the next twelve years. Dealing with the objections taken to the re- servoirs by the medical officer of health, Mr Jones advised as a remedy that the sides and floor of both reservoirs be grouted with Port- land cement compo, which would prevent con- tamination from surface water, and render it possible to thoroughly and properly clean them when necessary. With the present form of con- struction it would be now absolutely impossible to clean the reservoirs, and stagnant mud of many years' collection remained in the inter- stices of stone pitching on the floor and sides. The greatest drawback which exists in con- nection with these reservoirs, proceeds the re- port, is the difficulty now experienced of draw- ing the water for the consumers from the same owing to the outlet and delivering mains being only six inches in diameter, and as these pipes have been laid down during the last 20 to 30 years they have now become greatly corroded up. If the Council decide to incur the ex- penditure of putting the reservoirs in order it will be only money thrown away unless a new ten-inch delivering main is laid from these down Rhiw road and connected to the 9-inch main in Abergole-road. It will be also necessary to lay new 9-inch outlet pipes from each of the re- servoirs and connected to the new 10-inch main. The head of water which is given by these reservoirs equals a column 110 feet high, which represents a pressure of about 49 pounds to the square inch. It will, therefore, be at once seen that unless ample provision is made to bring the maximum volume of water down to the main road the available pressure will be all lost, and for that reason I strongly urge that before any money is expended on the reservoirs that the new 10-inch delivery main be first laid down. I have gone into the question of increasing the storagc capacity of these reservoirs. To attain the object desired I would first point out that it can be accomplished by re- moving the bank at present existing between the two small reservoirs, and forming one large re- servoir of both. This would then give an additional storing capacity of 180,000 gallons or a total capacity of 900,000 gallons, which, as I have already stated, would be sufficient to pro- vide a 24 hours' supply for that part of the district situated below this level for the next 12 to 15 years. I should, however, point out that the present arrangement allows of one re- servoir being kept f .11 while the other can be emptied for cleaning. This convenience will not exist if one reservoir is formed of the two as susreested. The capacity could be further increased by raising the top water level three feet above the existing level, and to do this the top of the banks on the north side and on the east and west sides would require lifting, which could be done with the soil excavated in removing the middle bank. INCREASED CAPACITY AND THE COST. The above proposal would provide an increased capacity of 447,000 gallons, or, if the whole of the works suggested in this report are carried out the total storage would bo increased to 1,340,000 or a two-days' supply for the district during the next 15 years. In conolusion the Engineer pointed out the necessity of having both reservoirs covered. The following were Mr Jones's estimates of the work:—(a) To properly grout and render the two existing reservoirs with best Portland cement compo, £ 394; (b) to laying down in Rhiw- road a 10-inch new delivering main and 9-inch outlets from the two reservoirs including all valves, speciaJs and other fittings complete, £ 490; (c) to removing existing bank between the two reservoirs, and forming one large reservoir, depositing spoil on site, pitching and grouting bottom and sides with best Portland cement compo, £ 376; (d) to raising top banks of exist- ing reservoirs so as to add three feet to present top water level, £ 482; (e) to covering the larger reservoir with Portland cement concrete and iron roof supported with armoured concrete columns, jE2460 10s; and contingencies, J6297 10s. These came to a total of £4500. On the recommendation of a special committee the Council decided to proceed with the work detailed in item A,, at an estimated oost of JB294.

TEMPERANCE MEETING AT ABERGELE. STRONG APPEALS FOR ENERGETIC WORK. A temperance meeting was held at the Baptist Chapel, Abergele, yesterday week, presided over by the Rev. Evan Jones (W.). A letter was read from the Rev. J. Pandy Williams, Rhyl, who was to be the princi- pal speaker, saying that, owing to the very serious illness of his \ftfe, lie could not be present. The Chairman said there was much to be &aid on the question before them that even- ing. Tinning and drunkenness were evils that had bothered every civilised country in the world. Every remedy had been tried, but everything, even legislation, had so far failed. The havoc intoxicants plaved in their midst was too terrible to think about. No less a sum than tl64,000,000 was spent annually in this country of alcoholic drink. That meant something like C3 18s per head of the population; and Mr John Bums had recently said that out of that gigantic sum the working classcs spent between sixty and seventy millions. If it were possible to "drv up" these people there would be no unemployed problem to grapple with in Great Britain. The question was were they as members of the churches of Jesus Christ doing their duty in the matter P He thought they were not. But tlicv would have to .come forward in earnest if this demon was to be crushed. The "trade" Vas very much alive. Persons who were interested in breweries and public-houscs belonged to the richest classes of the com- munity. REVIVAL BACKSLIDING EXPLAINED. L Miss Williams, of Denbigh, in a rousing Wekh speech, urged upon the ladies pre- sent to come out boldly. Lot them pay strict attention to the children, because if these were brought up to shun drink as a deadly poison, then the matter would not trouble posterity. She was comparatively young, but she was grieved to say that some of her best friends of hapr- girlhood days were to-day in the pitiless grip of this relentless foe of mankind. If women were given votes, and local veto became a live reality, she had no doubt but what her sis- tens would do justice to both, for were they not in a position to know what was wanted in their own streets? Why were there so many backsliders after the glorious revival they had had? Drmk was the cause in al. most every case. It was high time grocers' licences were done away with. Their evil results were stealthy serpents creeping into otherwise happy homes. She was sorry that there was not now a Good Templans' Lodge in Abergele. The lodge at Denbigh was doinrr a great deal of good work—in fact the best work in the town. Of course, temperance work was no,t easy, but if they were worthy of the name of members of the Church of Christ, they would be prepared to meet all difficulties. Icelanders managed to live without a single public-house. Why couldn't this country emulate that? It was pitiful to think that England, who sent more Bibles out to foreign lands than any other country, also sent out more barrels of beer and spirits than any other country. "DON'T DRINK YOURSELVES." The Rev. Francis Jones also spoke. He was strongly of the opinion that owry mem- ber of cdiuroh and chapel should be a totaj abstainer. He was in sympathy with the I poor drunkard who could not help himself. Ilhere were manv good points to be found I in the life of an inebriate. For one thing he had a warm .eart. He (Mr Jones) was not afraid to say that the temperance cause would to-day have been on a higher plane if its advocates used a Isittle more discretion and tacit with their work. They could never sober a drunkard by bullying him, they must use kind persuasion with him. Let them be clean thomselves, and by that he meant- Don't drink yourselves." The Rev. Morgan Davies was also of opin- ion that before they could succeed in sober- ing the country that abstinence would have to oe practised by every church member. It seemed an utter impossibility to get drunk- ards reformed as long as their own people indulged in drink. If they believed in I prayer, then let them pray as they never prayed before. He would be glad when the new cafe was opened as a counter at- tract ion pubiio-ha^, ». Votes of thanks to the speakers, moved by Messrs J. R. Ellis, H. E. Prichard, and E. Williams brought a highly successful meeting to a close.

„COLWYN BAY VOLUNTEERS. LIST OF PRIZE WINNERS. In our lait issue appeared a report of the supper given to th-i Volunteer Corps at Colwyn Bay. On the same occasion the prizes in the annual shoot were presented, and below we ippend a list of the winners:- No. 1 Event: 1, Sorg,b. T. W. Jones, 57; 2, Colour-Sergt. Instructor J. Jelly, 52; 3, Colour- Sergt. T. O. Griffith, 45; 4, Sergt. D. Davies, 44; 5, Lamce-Corporal H. W. Peglcr, 43; 6, Sergeant F. H. Borthwick, 43; 7,Laifce-Sergeant W. J. Williams, 42; 8, Lance Corporal B. H. Arnold, 40; 9, Private A P. Duckers, 38; 10.. Lance-Corporal W. H. Hodgkins, 37. No. 2 Event: ], Cyclist A. J. Glutton, 22; 2, Cyclist E. H. Fleet., 19; 3. Private J. Jones 19; 4, Private A. Williams, 16; 5, Private J. Sand- ford, 16. No. 3 Event: 1, Private J. T. Wild, 21; 2, Private J. H. Davies, 16; 3, Private D. Jones' 12, No. 4 Event: 1, Colour-Sergt. T. O. Griffiths' team, 75 hits; 2, S,&rge"t T. W. Jones' team, 72; 3, Sergeant F. H. Borthwick's team, 51. No. 5 Cup Event: 1, Sergeant T. W. Jories, 79; 2, Lance-Corporal W. H. Hodgkins, 64; 3, Colour-Sergeant-Instructor J. Jelly, 61. No. 6, Tradesmen's Event: Colour Sergeant- Instructor J. Jelly, 52; Sergt. T. W Jones 57; Colour-Sergeant T. O. Griffiths, 45; Sergeant D. Davies, 44; Lance-CorporaJ H. W. Pegler, 43; Sergeant F. Borthwick, 43; Lance-Sergeant W. J. Williams, 42; Lance Corporal B. H. Ar- nold, 40; Private A. P. Duckers, 38; Lance- Corporal W. H. HQdgkins, 37; Cyclist A. J. Clutton, 38; Corporal E. W. Reckless, 36; Pri- vate R. C. Morris, 36; Private T. Pa.rry, 35; Sergeant J. T. Owen. 33; Private R. Jones. 61; Private J. Ellis, 31; Cyclist W. Davies. 31; Pri- vate D. R. Roberts, 3l; Cyclist E. Evans, 26; J Private J. Harley, 26; Cyclist E. H. Fleet, 26; Lance Corporal E. Jones, 25; Private S. R. Leathley, 25; Private W. Roberts. 20; Private J. Jones, 20; Private W. B. Dodd, 19; Private J. Sandford, 16; Private A. Williams. 16; Lance- Corporal H. W. Pegler, 43; Private L. D. Jones, 16; Bugler C. W. Arnold, 16. The donors of prizes were: Mitchell and Butler, Messrs D. Allen and Sons," Mr J. D. Cartmell, Mr G. Marfell, Mr Rovle Messrs J. Williams and Son, Messrs Rhvdwen Jones Davies, Mr CoJey, Mr S. K.'Williams, Mr R- Hands, Mr A. N. Cross, Messrs Samuel Bros., Mr W. H. Hatton, Mr Purkisa, Messrs W. Jones and Son, Mr E. Percival, M.r T. Horn an, Messrs Lewis Bros., Mr A. J. Fleet, Mr J. B. Randle, Mr J. Harrison. Mr G. Bevan, Messrs Davies Bros., Mr T. T. Jones, Mr R. Ross, Messrs J. Dicken and Sons, Mr J. Pick- ering. Mr W. Davies, Mr Gale, Mr Pottos, and Mr W. Jones.

XMAS TREE AND SALE OF WORK AT OLD COLWYN. SCHOOLS AND CHURCH BENEFITTED. On Tuesday afternoon a two day's Christmas Tree and Sale of Work was commenced at the Assembly Rooms, Cld Colwyn. The objects of the sale were for the purpose of paying off a debt existing on the National Schools, and to wtrds the building fund of the St. John's Church. All the stalls were overweighted with an al'undance of good things. At one end a huge Christmas Tree was on view, which was the greatest attraction of all to the vouthful buyers. THE OPENING CEREMONY. The building was overcrowded when Mrs Block performed the opening ceremony. She was supported on the platform by the Rev. LI. Richards, curate, Mr William Jones, Mmafon, and Mr Wood. Seawood hill. The Curate said it was only right and ap- propriate to mention the objects of the bazaar. They wished to wipe out a debt of JB60 on the National Schools, and what was made on the Welsh at all went to the St. Catherine Church, the surplus going towards reducing the debt on th6 St. John's Church. Reference was made to the absence of the Vicar, who had suffered a serious illness.but was now gradually iecovering. The rev gentleman had sent a letter to say that he hoped everybody would do their utmost for thj success Of the saJe. Continuing, the speaker said that personally he was very thankful to Mrs Brook for opening the bazauv She sympathised keenly with them, and when asked had come forward at once. He had much pleasure in oalling upon Mrs Brock to open the bazaar Mrs Brock said that she had very often had the pleasure of being present on similar occa- sions in Colwyn She understood that the pro- ceeds were in aid of the National Schools, and the surplus to the Church. They were both worthy objects. She was in sympathy with the National Schools, and she would like them to voice their op in km on the matter when the op- portunity came. They earnestly wished it to be known that they would have no exclusion of the sacred book from their schools. She wished every success to the undertaking, and had very great pleasure in declaring the bazaar open. Mr William Jones proposed a vote of thanks to Mrs Brock, which was seconded by Mr Wood, Seawoodhill, and carried with acclama- tion. The Rv Ll. Richards said that previous to commenting he would like to s.-y that the debt on St. John's Chuich amounted !<> £ 800. so they would want a good surplus. They had a gar- den party a.nd a successful concert, and along with what they would realise at that bazaar, they hoped to reduce the debt by £100. THE STALLHOLDERS. The various stalls were in charge of the fol- lowing-7-- Tanllwyfan Stall:—Miss Francis, Miss Whitle, Miss Notley, and Mr Wright Minafon Stall:-Miss Price Jones, Miss Winnie Price Jones, Miss Vaugba.ii,A-lrslleenan, Miss Eden. Miss Uptoa's Stall (assisted by Miss Jenkin- son):—Miss Hughes, Bodlondeb, and Miss Cowlishaw. Stall by Miss George Pendyffryn, assisted by Miss Steven so i, and Miss Madge Stevenson. Welsh Stall:—Mrs Lloyd, Mrs Sanderson, Mrs Hannah, Mrs Owen, Misses Sanderson, and Miss A. Lewis. Stall by Mrs Wilding, Miss Ilorrocks, Mrs Earp and Miss Earp, assisted by Mrs Mayle, Mrs Bates. Mrs Watkinson.Miss Daisy Bowkley. Tanyooed Stall:—Mrs and Miss Lloyd, as- sisted by Miss Edith Mooatta. Stall by Miss Pemberton and Miss Pendle- burv. Tne Christmas Tree was in charge of Miss Jackson, Miss Dimitiou, Miss Roberts, and Miss Kevin. Refreshment Stall:—Miss E. Jones and Miss Whittaker.

LONDON SMITHFIELD SHOW WELSH PRIZE WINNERS. Under the presidency of the Prince of Wales the annual sl ow of the Smithfield Club opened on Monday at the Royal Agricultural Hall, Islington. Entries from all the well-known feeders end exhibitors had been received, and comprised ill .he ordinary section of the show k;83 head of cattle, 151 pens of sheep, end 125 pens of pigs. The Prince of Wales arrived at half-past twelve, and made a tour of the classes. The King' airived later in the day, and was receive! by the Prince of Wales. The following were tho awards gained by Welsh exhibitors-- Welil-, steers, not exceeding three years old: 1st, £20, R. M. Greaves (Worn Dog Rose); 2nd, £10, University College of North Wales; 3rd, j65. University College of North Wales; r., R. M. Grs-xve:! Welsh steers, above two years and not exceed- ing throe years old: 1st, £ 20, the Coed Coch Trustees (Gwilym); 2nd, 210, Robert Hughes; 3rd, E5, Robert Hughes; 4th, R. -AT, Greaves. Welsh heifers, not exceeding three years old: 1st, £ 20, Robert Roberts (Laura); 2nd, £10, Ro- bert Roberts (Jenny); 3rd, L5, Robert Hughes (Polly); r., R. M. Greaves. E20 cup to the exhibitor of the best Welsh: The Coed Cooh Trustees (Gwilym); r., Robert Roberts (Laura). Welsh wether sheep, of any age: 2nd, £ 5, University College of North Wales. The Rev. Fa,her Walsh, who has been for some "oars assistant Roman Catiholic pries ht Holywell, and who is well-known to visitors to St. Wiinefride's Well, left that town en Monday for Skip ton, Y'-kshire, to which pla-jj he haa been transferred.

CORRESPONDENCE. THE LLANDUDNO AND CCLTVYN BAY LIGHT RAILWAY. (To the Editor of the "Pioneer"). Sir,-I was much intetrosted in your editorial notice as also in the oorreepondenoo w'hich ap- peared in your newspaper of Friday 'ast. May I thank you for the fair and impartial stand you have takan on this tramway ques- tion ? As there are several queries in the letters and your ruotioe, I shall be pleased if you will allow me, on behalf the company to reply to them. I do this with the fole wash that every- one desirous of knowing the facte should have thejn stated in clear amd unmistakable terms. Now, in the first place, tramways and ligat railways whenever laid on and along a street or roa-d are the same. It is, therefore, n t the intention of the company to run more than one single car at a time along the ro-ads of Colwyn Bay. The oars will be of the siagis* deck type, carrying about 56 passengers. ard will be of a beautiful design and exquisite construction. They will be well, and even, b.il- liantly, lighted by electricity, and must pro Te most comfortable for travel. The forts will be those known as "popular, that is at the rate of Id per mile as a maximum for short journcytn. while for longer, say two, three, or four miles, the fare per mile will be mujh less. The ear vices will be as frequent as in- quired in accordance with the time of day and the season of the yeair. The rate of speed will be entirely controlled by the Board of Trade, by whom it is fixed. The Board also make special regulations. Th ;y will arrange "compulsory etops" at any oornor considered dangerous, also for the construction, electrio equipment, cars, brakes, oontrollor, sa-liding arrangements, lighting, safety uards, and etcns, and the perfect insulation of he cars, all of which will bo inspected m;nutely before the Board of Trade will grant their certificate. It will readily be seen how very carefully a ttramway system is looked into to ensure the absolute safety of the public, either as Palssangere or pedestrians, along the thor- oughfares upon which tramways are construc- ted. In the next place, the company will have to make up the whole width of the roadway le- tween the tram rails and to a statutory width on the outside of the rails, and. in addition, to miintain this to the sat!israction of -he Council. Therefore, as you have pointed Olt, they will relievo the town of a considerable item of expense. The company will also have to pay rates. Here again an appreciablo bena- fit will result, because the more popula.r the tramway system the greater their trading ii- c count, and the more the iates the local autho- rities will receive. As to routes—this is a question which, I feel, it would in every way be wise that I at id events, should not enter into here, for before many dars wo ^will no< doubt be in a position with it"by negotiation with the Urbin District Council, who will no doubt represent the wishes of the town. Therefore. I fhall content myself by observing that we ha 10 given notice of the routes along which railways one to nine are proposed to bo run, in order that a wise choice may be made, and the very best routo selected. I hope and btlieve ins will be the ultimate rœu't of our negotiations. It can bo relied upon that the query "as to the company being able to carry out its oul; gat.one" may be considered beyond dispute. It is the intention of the company to JOITT mence construction immediately the powers aro obtained, and, as the contract is let to a-^ll- known and efficient contractors there shoutd be mo question but that the v ork will be both well and quickly done. No doubt as many local men as possible will le engaged, and this side of tho question should not "be o'er looked. I personally feel the undertaking will result) in a gieat oonvenienoo d advantage. It will act as a feeder to the railway by carrying passengers to and from the railway s.t.ation at Colwyn Bay from either end of the town, as well as Rhos and Old Colwyn Such facilities should be weloomed by every business man or by those on pleasure bent. In all other seaside districts tramways have caused an immediate rise in the value of pro- perty, tho amount of trade done ajvJ the more general extension at residential building opera- tions So I have no doubt out that in Colwvn Bay this will still prove irue, and that t'he scheme will be to the benefit of the town, the comfort of its residents, ind the convenience and pleasure of its many visitors. Thanking you in anticipation and apologia ing for ta-king up so much of your space Yours etc., WILLIAM IVEY. Fwllvcrochan Hotel, CoJwyn Bay, Dec. 10, 1906.

Sir,—I with many others was delighted to read your leading artic!e upon the above question in last week's "Pioneer," and heartily don- gratulate you upon the outspoken way you pleaded the cause of Old Colwyn. The present scheme, no doubt, does not go far enough to properly serve some of the Old Colwyn popula- tion. The day is long past when "trams or no trams" can be the cry, and I do not believe there are one hundred people in the whole dis- trict who would dare to say that trams are not needed, or that trams would not be a great benefit both to the people and the place. There- fore, I take it the vast majority are in favour of trams for Colwyn. In fact that policy was decided upon many years ago, and is therefore beyond recall. L see an attempt is now being made to raise the cry of municipal trams for Colwyn Bay. Let us for a moment look at this fairly and squarely. Is the Colwyn Bay Urban District Council able to bear another burden? Our rates are now 8s in the JS, and our assessments are already too high. We have to face the burden I of another large expenditure on our water main -caid to be at least £ 25,000 our sewerage scheme will require further extension, and the Promenade will be a continual expense owing to the sea. We have also the trouble caused by the large sum of money outstanding. Yet, with all these liabilities facing us, we ha.ve a few people who talk glibly about having a tramway system of our own. We have only to turn to Blackpool to see the fallacy of such a policy, for there the tramway system has cost the ratepayers -thousands of pounds, and is still a drag upon the rates. If we were a large city with many towns adjoining there might 00 more reason in the cry. but I venture to suggest that the result of a tramway promoted, owned or worked by the Council, would be disastrous, and, while it must be admitted by everyone that in any branch of trading it is much easier to make a loss than to earn a profit, it has been proved by Blackpool that in the case of a small isolated tramway a 10';8 is absolutely certain. I, there- fore, appeal to the people of our beautiful town, not to be led off the track by a false issue for after all this cry is simply a red herring, pro- bably utilised by interested parties who may have other fish to fry. I ask your readers to consider the question in the broader spirit, and answer to themselves the following queries:- Will not a tramway connection between Llan- dudno, Rhos, Colwyn Bay, and Old Colwyn, be an immense benefit to all? Has not the town consented to tramways years ago? Will tramways not tend to develope the various estates ? Will they not provide work during construction and when running? Will they not assist the people of all these places to more conveniently and quickly reach the railway stations when travelling between Birkenhead, Chester, Liverpool, Manchester, etc? Will they not be a large contributing factor to our local rates? Will they not have to pay for the road-making and repairing wherever the lines are laid? Will not trams be sure to come whether we assist their coming or not? In replying to these questions I am certain what the answers will be, but, though they may be in the affirmative and in favour of trams in every particular, I ask the further question —had we not far rather try to get them con- structed along the roads and streets, which, in our opinion, will best serve the people living here and visiting here. And surely there can be only two routes which will properly serve us. These are the Promenade route, from Rhos to Old Colwyn, and the line running along Everard and Whitehall roads, across the bridge by the Board School, and along the Conway and Abergele-roads to Old Colwyn. The other lines are not needed, and if these two main lines— or even one of them—were constructed they would be quite sufficient to provide us with the accommodation required. I must thank you for allowing me so much of your valuable space, but I feel rather enthusiastic on this question for the reason that I believe, as I have already stated, trams will prove of immense benefit to Colwyn Bay, Old Colwyn, and Rhos.—Yours truly, PRO BONO PUBLICO. December 8th, 1906. [We should protest in the strongest manner possible against any municipal tramway system, though we have not heard the rumour to which our correspondent refers.—Ed.]

Siir,-Althougb not a permanent resident of Colwyn Bay, I have during the past six or seven years watohed with considerable interest the rapid growth and development of the town and district, and have taken great interest in the progress of the light railway eoheme. Befoijo committing themselves lo a route, the railway is to traversei, it would, I think, be grudenft for the members of the Urban Distriot ouncil to call a meeting of the ratepayers for the purpose of ascertaining their views upon such a momentous question, thus relieving themselves of a very n»avy responsibility.

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Sr,-With (reference to the above Bill for additionai powers, it is to be hoped that the CLurucil will only agree tlo this conditionally that the company lay down some system by which the cables are carried underground, thereby doing away with the unsightlj and dan- geo-oua overhead wires. This especially applies to the proposed route along the sea front. I may say that the "Locain" system of con- tract by means of suids between the lines, as adopted by the Wolverhampton Corporation, is a perfect "promenade" system, and although rathe, expensive to work is exactly what is wanted for seaside towns like Colwyn Bay, which depends to such a large extent upon their natural surrounding.—Yours, etc., Wolverhampton, 10th Dec., 1906. H. M.

Sir,—In the first place, allow me to congratu- late the District Council on their unanimous vote, passed this week, to oppose any alteration to the original scheme. As one knows from experience that this vote* is merely a formal vote, still, now they have pledged themselves unanimously, it is our duty as ratepayers to see that they are consistent, and carry it through to a successful issue. Some five or six years ago, the inhabitants of Colwyn Bay sanctioned or asked that the light railway should be constructed to terminate in Prmcess-drive, the route then being defined clearly and approved of. Since then the company has changed hands, and the present company seem to wish to alter the schemt; altogether. My contention us: that if altered in the least, I there will be great injustice done to many; whereas, if the original scheme is carried out, they will only have themselves to blame. Looking at the scheme, I say, without hesita- tion, that Colwyn Bay, as a town, from a business point of view, from a seaside resort point of view, and from a residential point of view, has practically nothing to gain but everything to lose. To prove the above assertion, I would point out that in the first place, the rateable value, wherever the trams passed existing residences, must be reduced, as has been proved, over and over again. With regard to the suggestion that the trams should run through the principal street in the town it would be worse than ever, seeing that the oid oak trees would have to be much disfigured, if not removed, to allow of same, tho narrowness of the road at present being dangerous, and in my mind it is doubtful whether the Board of Trade would even pass this. From a tradesman's point of view, I contend that they will lose business, and that very quickly. By this line opening they are creating keen competition in every way. In the firs: place, our keen opponent, Llandudno, has market, and also obtains a great supply of he. provisions, etc., by water, hence they are enables to sell cheaper than Colwyn Bay. The result will be that shopping to a marked extent, with- out a doubt, will go to Llandudno, and trades- people generally will do well to think this matter over most seriously. Boarding-house proprietors: Their terms will naturally fall because of competition from Llan- dudno, the tram opening out this end to Llan- dudno. Further, our entertainments as regardb concerts on the pier, etc. These likewise will have to be improved, seeing that there will be keener competition, otherwise visitors and others will go to Llandudno. Hence, more expense. From a residential point of view: This, to my mind, is most important for Colwyn Bay. It is natural, and is admitted, that the esidents practically are the chief ratepayers of Colwyn Bay, and keep the town going, the visiting season generally lasting only three or four months. Hence, the desirability of keeping it a residential spot and retaining its residents. Personally. I am sorry for the numerous carriage proprietors the smaller ones in particular-who will be the principal sufferers, as well as tho outside porters, etc.. etc., who were able to make a livelihood, who, now, I fear, will be deprived of same. Lastly: If there is one thing that strikes the visitor, or resident of Colwyn Bay, it is the quiet Sundays, and this point I wish to impress. What it will mean when the trams are running I do not care to state, but to my own mind the picture is anything but pleasant, and I would ask every ratepayer to show his interest in the town, by supporting the Council in opposing any alteration or deviation of the original route. All places of worship in the town, I presume, I are unanimous, and should ta.ke an active part in, as far as possible, preventing the upsetting of the quiet Sundays. It will mean that hundreds, if not thousands, will come each Sun- day to our town, and the hotels which a.re all well conducted and respectable, will be practically compelled to keep open all day (against their own inclinations doubtless) for the supposed travellers, who will have come the specified distance so that they will be able to demand refreshment. If there ever was a time in the history of Colwyn Bay that the inhabitants and ratepayers should decide once and for all. the destiny of their lovely town, they should without doubt band themselves together and support their Council in its unanimous objection to any devia- tion of the original plan. I shall be pleased to join with any of the residents or owners in any scheme whereby we can save Colwyn Bay from being practically ruined for all time. I apologise for my long letter, and thanking you in anticipation of the favour of publishing same.—I am, yours very truly, T. E. PURDY. Guy's Cliff, Colwyn Bay. [We think our correspondent has over-drawn the picture considerably, and takes too alarmist a view of the matter. There may be one or two objections to the scheme, but every scheme of public utility which has been discussed by the local authority in this town during the last decade has been objected to by somebody or other. On the whole we believe an electrio tramway from Old Colwyn to Llandudno will be beneficial to all the watering places con- cerned. As to whether overhead or under- ground wires would be most suitable i6 a detail to be considered.]

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V9' Christmas Cheer. WE all look forward to the Festive Reason" with great pleasure. To all alike—young and old—it is a time of Good Cheer." Have you ever considered the amount of forethought necessary on someone's part to ensure your getting the Good Cheer ?" Arrangements have to be made months in advance to see that the "RIGHT THING IS READY AT THE RiGHT MOMENT. II T. ROBERTS, STATION ROAD, CDT WYM BAY; Has again secured vast supplies of endless varieties of CHRISTMAS SPECIALITIES AND NOVELTIES. and promises you a thorough feast w things. Obtain your 0 supplies early, thereby getting first choice, and avoiding possible disappointment at a later date. FRUIT. CURRANTS from 4d., 5d., and 6d. per lb. VALENCIA RAISINS 5d., 6d., and yd. 9 9 SULTANAS RAISINS 91 Sd., 6d., and 7d. „ LEMON PEEL 4d. and 6d. go FRENCH PLUMS „ 6d 99 MUSCATELS 8d., 1/ i/a „ XMAS CAKES. s- Huntley and Palmer's and Jacob's Christmas Cakes in great variety, from 6d. to 2/6 each. CRACKERS. CRACKERS (Tom Smith's), all the latest novelties in Handsome Boxes. Prices from 6d. to 3/- per box. ONLY ADDRESS- T- ROBERTS, jfamí[£ Grocer, ISaher & provision flDercbant STATION ROAD. Nat. Tel. 35. COLWYN BAY. 16881 I I CHRISTMAS. THE JOYOUS TIME OF CHILDHOOD. NO Season means more to the youngster than Christmas. The mysterious tales of SANTA CLAUS, the presents and eatables endear this time to the youthful hearts and many of our most pleasant recollect- ions of childhood days are centred on Christmas. We have made our CHRISTMAS BAZAAR a sight that the young eyes will gladden at, and one that will take the older folks back to years gone by. All the old toys and joys are here, and all the new ones that ingenious makers have added to. the list since we were young. Come and see and bring the children- it doesn't matter how many you've got bring them all and see a real live FATHER CHRISTMAS, into whose long Stocking each Child can have a Dip for the small sum of TWO PENCE. Oman's Xmas Bazaar, STATION ROAD, 16877 « COLWYN BAY,

WEATHER OBSERVATIONS AT OOLWYN BAY. For week ending December 8th. Mean maximum (in the shade)$3.3 Mean minimum (in the shade) 45.0 Hi chest (in the shade) on the 4tJi mat 9^.0 Lowest (in 041 'th inst •• "-2 Rainfall .■ •••. 'inches) .34 Hours of brignt sunshine reoordel «.l 1. W. JONES, Assoc. M. Inst. C B. ,>- Draper: "I hear your horse threw you the other day." Crupper: "Nothing of the kind: it was merely a coincidence. At the ve^J moment my horse kicked up his hind legs 1 dismounted over his head." >v "So that's the silver-tongued orator, .6 It?" said the man in the reai of the seat. troy why they call him that?" "Because," the weary listener, "silence, which 1 is so much more valuable than his ora In a case at Lowestoft County Co' Wilmot ruled that a bailiff should not cuffs in arresting persons under a order for debt.

.o. -=- It cannot be disputed by anyone who r ,'S carefully observed tihe traffic of motor cars, bicycles a-nd other vehicles alomr the Conwiy and the Abergele Roiads, that these thorough- fares are insufficiently wide in certain parts to admit of even a single line of rails foT tram- way cars. After careful consideration of the pros and OOIM. as to which is tho better routs for a lino of rails, I am foroed to the conclusion that ine promenade is the oeie which will not on'y Ie the more convenient and safer, but the most profitable route for the Light Railway Com pany. The Conway and the Abergele Roads fin almost parallel with the promenade, and n.3 the dl s-taiice between' those roads and the pro menade is not very great in any part, pas- sengers could got the oars without much incaa- vecideiiee. In fact tihe town might have be-u designed specially for a tramway service along the promenade. After leaving Rhos the traru- cairs would be fed (1) at the end oi the Marina- road (2) at the station sub-way; (3) at the bridge near the Pavilion; (4) at the Dingle; and (5) at the Donkey Path. Undoubtedly, the line ought to run straight through to tho Queen's Hcfcel, Old Colwyn. The promeinp.de route would be more cMiveawent than anv other for people either at Old Colwyn or Rhos m- tending to travel lAv train. Moreover, it would be used extensively by visitors in sum- mer for the purpose of "getting a along the sea ooast. It has been said that 'he promenade route would be dangerous to oD;I. dren going to and from the sands. The liak would be much greater if the care passed through the town. At Great Yarmouth uiJ also at Blackpool the tramcars run along t'ro front, amd I venture to f-ay accidents there have been few and far beween. Experience has proved that where tramvay oars run house and shop rioperties have -tie- precia.ted iin value, rents have been reduced and s-hopk,, er, along such routes have suffer- ed from a decline of their business. It is stated that the population of Colwyn Bay has more than doubled itself during the st 15 yeaiis. If we are to judge of t.he future ty the past what. is the congestion of some portions of the Conway and Abergele Roads likely to be in fifteen years hence?—I am, sir, youirs, etc., M anchester. J. B.