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Conway Board of Guardians. First Meeting of the Enlarged Board. Election of Officers and Committee. Religious Instruction Creates a Further Disturbance. THE annual meeting of this Board was held on Friday. There were present the chairman (Mr Hugh Owen), the vice-chairman (Mr W. F. Jones), Mrs OlcJman, Mrs T. M. Jones, Mrs T. Lloyd, Mrs Cculton, Messrs G. O. Jones, J.P., J. W. Raynes, J.P., Alderman H. Hughes, Aid. Joseph Jones, Thomas Abram, P. H. IcCle- ment, John Jones, Roger Dawson, Rogers Jnes, S. H. Roberts, Llewelyn Jones, 'E. G. Swetnam, Edward Williams, Win. Davies, F. Hart, Robert Parry, Rowland, Williams, Wm. Hughes, Hugh Davies '(Gorswen), E. J. Evans (Llanbedr), David Jones (Llwynfryn), William Williams, Richard Jones, Jonathan Roberts, Evan Evans, with the clerk (Mr T. E. Parry), and other officials. A letter apologising for her absence was read' ,z from Miss Champneys, one of the new mem- bers for Llandudno. The new members signed their declarations of office. The Chairman Re=e!ected Mr Wm. Davies apologised for intruding at this juncture, but, under the circumstances, he said he had no alternative. lIe gave notice that at the next Board meeting he would' move that in future the chairman be appointed in rotation from the different relief committees. ■Mr Hugh Abram then proposed that Mr Hugh Owen, the former chairman be re-elected. That was the first year for the working of he new Board, and .Mr Owen had only served one I year, but, having regard to. his good' experience, he thought it would be only tair for tfhem to re-elect him. Mr Robert 'Parry seconded, and Mr William Davies supported. Mr Raynes said that, with due deference +0 Mr Hugh Owen—he held a very high opinion -of Mr Owen-he must propose an amendment, and that was that Mr W. F. Jones, the former vice-chairman, take the chair for the ensuing twelve months. Mr Jones was one of the old- est members, if not the oldest member, of the Board, and he (the speaker) felt sure he would deal with the work as efficiently as Mr Hugh Owen. In saying that, he would, not, in any way, depreciate Mr Owen's services. Mr John Jones seconded the amendment, and said he thought the chairman of every author- ity oufght to be appointed annually. Alderman Hugh Hughes- supported the ori- ginal motion, and stated that while agreeing with the notice of motion given -by 'Mr William Davies, he also concurred with Mr Hugh Abram that Mr Hu!gh Owen's wide experience would standi them in good service under the altered condition of things on the Board. In regard to the notice of motion, he could net help thinking that they should adopt the same principle in selecting their future chairman from members of the three relief committees in the same manner as' the chairmen of the Cow- lyd Board were chosen in rotation from the three constituent authorities. Mr Dawson, in supporting the motion, com- mented upon the satisfactory manner in which Mr Hugh Owen had attended the several com- mittee and Board meetings. Mr McClement, who gave further support to the motion, spoke in praise of the principle underlying Mr Davies's notice of motion, and added, "but it's rather strange that we .get such an example from the Cowlycl Water Board." (Loud laughter.) Concerning Mr Hugh Owen, he observed: "One excellent thirJg about Mr Owen is—and I question very much whether it could be had in many of us—he has g,,at patience." (Laughter.) Mr W. F. Jones, while thanking his friends for their kind words, asked permission to with. draw his name. The Clerk then proceeded to put the original motion to the meeting. Mr John Jones asked why the amendment was not put up first. The Clerk replied he understood that Mr W. F. Jones had withdrawn his name. Mr John Jones pointed out that the permis- sion of the mover and seconder had not been obtained; therefo.re, the amendment held good. With Mr Rayne's permission he requested that the amendment he put to the meeting. Mr Raynes also pressed the point. The amendment was then put to the meeting, and found eight in its favour, while twenty-one recorded in favour of retaining the old chair- man. The original motion was thus declared car- ried. The Chairman returned thanks briefly, and observed he concurred with some of the speak- ers thai) it was desirable for a. change in the chairmanship every year. However, he was very pleased to be re-elected on that occasion, more especially because it was very probable this would be his last year amongst them. He would ibe shortly leaving his own parish of Llangystenin, and it was not probable that he would be asked to represent the other parish upon the Board. He knew very well there were many members on that Board who could fill the chair better than he aid; the only quality he had had been mentioned by Mr McClement. If he had not possessed so much patience he would have stuck more to the standing orders perhaps, but he was afraid -M_=" that, if he fiad acted on all occasions in strict accordance with standing orders, those 'who now complained would be as much -gainst-t as anyone. However, he again thanked them all, and promised to do his best during the en- suing year. The Vice=Chairm:in. Mr Thomas Abram moved the re-election of Mr W. F. Jones as vice-chairman. Mr Wm. Davies seconded. 'Mr Raynes and Mr John Jones questioned the advisability of appointing a vice-chairman, but the motion was eventually adopted. Aj p sintment of Committees. The follo wing committees were appointed: Assessment Committee: Messrs Rt. Ellis, H. Hughes, P. II. McClement, E. Thorp, J. R. Dawson, Hugh Owen, J. W. Raynes, W. F. Jones, John Jones, John Williams., Rogers Jones, and 'Wm. Davies. House and Visiting Commiifee Mrs R. A. Lloyd, Mrs T. M. Jones, Airs Colton, Mrs Old- man, Miss Champneys, Messrs Hugh Owen, \V. F. Jones, R. Parry, T. Abram, R. Ellis, Ed. Williams, Rd. Jones, Llewelyn Jones, S. H. Roberts, Evan Evans, Joseph Jones, F. Hart, David1 Davies, David Jones, and Jonathan Roberts. Finance Committee Messrs Swetnam, G. O. Jones, John Williams, H. Hughes, 0. Williams. Rdgers Jones, W. F. Jones, E. Thorp, J. R. Dawson, and Hugh Owen. School Attendance Committee Messrs Hugh Owen, W. F. Jones, 'P. H. McClement, R. Parry, J. W. Raynes, Ed. Williams, O. Jones, Joseph Jones, William Hughes, S. II. Roberts, and F. Hart. Costs of the Election. The Clerk reported that the expenses in con- nection with the recent election amounted to [32 155 2d, and the bills were ordered: to be paid. The Relioious Teaching of Children. Alderman Hughes asked to be allowed to put a question concerning the resolution recently adopted with a view to permitting workhouse children to attend the several places of wor- ship they might be connected with, und.er escorts. AS it appeared that the children con- tinued to 'attend the church where they hitherto had attended, he asked! why the resolution had not been carried into effect? Was it because Mr Parry had not notified the different churches of the decision of the Board? Mr Raynes:. Is this in order, Mr Chairman? The Chairman It is a question. Alderman Flushes I can move the suspen- sion of the standing orders to discuss the point if I want to, but has the clerk sent notices to the different places of worship? The Clerk replied in the negative. Alderman Hughes Then, I move the suspen- sion of fche standing orders in order to discuss the advisability of instructing the clerk to notify the Churches. Mr William Davies seconded. Mr John Jones hoped Mr Hughes would not persist with his point, because it was only in- troducing a question which would create some feeling in discussing it. It could very well keep until the next meeting, and he suggested that 'Mr Hughes give notice of motion on the point for the next meeting. Alderman Hughes The Board has already decided this matter, and this is only instructing the clerk to carry o.ut the decision of the Board. Mr William Davies thought that, In view of the misrepresentation generally held on the matter, it was full time the question was finally dealt with. The motion was then put to the meeting, and carried. Alderman Hughes I now move that Mr Parry be asked to advise the different denominations that the Board has decided to. allow the children to attend the various places of worship. That is all I want, and there is no need to lose time over it. Alderman Joseph Jones seconded, and tne motion was carried. Catechism in the Day 5choo!s. AMU SI NO DISCUSSION. WATER FOR WESLEY AN- CABBAGES. Mr McClement followedf this up by saying that in justice to the number of children of other denominations attending the day schools, he wanted to propose that it .be an instruction to the headmaster of the Conway schools that children of Nonconformist parents attending the schools' be not taught the Catechism of the Church of England. ("Order, order.") Mr John Jones said it was ridiculous to. bring that point up at that juncture. The Chairman asked Mr McClement to give a notice of motion on the matter. Mr McClement': But I can bring it up under the suspension of the standing orders. Mr John Jones Tprotest against it. Mr Hugh Hughes It is important. Mr John Jones: They .are very anxious to rush this on. We can see throuigh it. I see who is supporting this, and who is talking. (Oh. oh.) You will drive people out of sym- pathy with your cause if you go on like this. Mr Jos.eph Jones Have you had 'any? Mr E. G. Swetnam declared his objection to the introduction of religious and political matters in this way. Mr Hugh Hughes said they had allowed all the children to go to the different denominations on the Sunday, and there was another equally important aspect of the matter in regard to the training of the children on the weekdays. Mr Rogers Jones: This is quite out of order. The Chairman appealed to Mr Hughes not to go on with the matter that day. Mr John Jones: Why did you not say thai before? Mr Hugh Hughes This is a matter 01 urgent importance. Mr M'Clement: I move the suspension of the standing orders, in order to move his resolu- tion. Mr Hu'gh Hughes seconded. They ought to decide at once whether these children were to be taught the Catechism of the Established Church at the day schools. Mr Roger Dawson moved that the next busi- ness be proceeded1 with. Mr Rogers Jones seconded. Mr John Jones appealed to the chairman to carry out the duties of the chair. The motion to suspend the standing orders was put, and the voting was 15 for and nine against. The Chairman said the motion was carried. Mr McClement: I am very 'glad to see it, because this is a matter of reason and common sense. Mr John Jones protested. The standing order demanded a two-thirds majority, and that was not obtained. (Cries of "Vote again.) Was the chairman going to allow the place to be a pandemonium? The chairman was not carrying out his duties. He could see what was goinig on. The desire was to water the Wesleyan cabbages. (Laughter.) Mr Hugh Hughes (Conway) We are not here, anyhow, to distribute coal and cloth and beef. (Laughter.) Mr Swetnam, as a new member, objected to the tone of the discussion. He was not op- posed to any child being withdrawn from the school. The Board would soon meet again, and he did not think the Church Catechism would hurt the children until the next meeting. He asked the two gentlemen respectfully to withdraw from that meeting. The Chairman said that was his own wish, but they pressed it. It seemed now that t'he resolution to suspend the standing orders was not carried. Mr John Jones All the bother has been caused by your misapprehension of the duties of the chair. Mr Abram hardly thought that the term "watering the Wesleyan cabbages" was a fair one to use. It was, in fact, both unfair and un'gentlemanly, and it should be withdrawn. If anyone made a remark about anyone running from one religion to another, he would be asked to withdraw that. (Laughter.) •Mr John Jones: Very well, Mr Chairman I withdraw. Mr Llewelyn Jones complained thah the Board should be called upon to listen to the unparliamentary language of these persons. CLaughter.) The matter then dropped. Another Squabble. TURNCOATS AND SKITTLE PLAYERS. Mr T. B. Farrington, the architect to the Board, submitted the draft of an aJgreemenS entered into, with Mr Edward Jones, for a lease to the Board of premises in Castle-street1 as offices. It was suggested that the terms of the lease should be considered by a commijLee, and Mr John Jones proposed that M'essrs McClement, 'Swetnam, and Raynes be the com- mittee. I Mr Hugh Hughes moved that the committee be five members, and that the additional mem- bers be Mr Williams, Llandudno, and -Ir T. Abram. Mr John Jones urged that these gentlemen be not on the committee, and hoped he would not be asked for his reason. Mr Hughes exclaimed that he was not to swallow all Mr Jones's wishes, reasons or no reasons. "Then," exclaimed Mr John Jones, "I must give my reason. If it had not been for Mr Hughes and Mr Abram we should never have taken this place at this rent. These gentle- men and Mr Williams, of Llandudno, as to whom I have no personal objection, are all Wesieyans, and the lessor is a Wesleyan.. (-:0h," and laughter.) Mr Hugh Hughes And Mr John Jones is a turncoat from 'the Methodists to the Church. ("Oh," and laughter.) Mr John Tones They have been playing skittles all day long. Mr Abram During t'he whole of the years I have been at this Board, nobody can say I have been heard once in my own interests. I have never had an axe !to grind. Mr Hugh Hughes: And my sole reason for naming Mr William Williams is that he is a practical builder. I moved, this apart from bi'gotry and prejudice of every kind. Mr McClement: Let us leave it to the people who have no creed. Ultimately the Board elected a committee of five, wl1Ïch- included Mr Abram, but not Mr W. Williams.

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