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CARNARVONSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE NORTH WALES LUNATIC ASYLUM. At a meeting of the above Council, held on Thursday, a long and animated discussion took place on two questions relating to the Joint Counties' Asylum at Denbigh. It transpired that the Asylum Authorities and the Denbigh Town Council are at variance with regard to the disposal of the asylum sewage. At present, the asylum sewage empties into a field leased for that purpose. The lease is now on the point of expiring. The Denbigh Town Coun- cil, in drafting their own borough sewerage scheme, had not made provision for the future disposal of the asylum sewage. The Asylum Authorities had appealed to the Local Govern- ment Board to declare the Town Council to be in default, and to issue an order compelling them to make the necessary provision but the Local Government Board seemed disinclined to take this step. The Denbighshire County Council had already passed a resolution sup- porting the asylum, and urging the Local Go- vernment Board to compel the Denbigh Town Council to do what was required Mr. J. T. Roberts, a member of the visiting committee, explained, in addition to the fore- goingfacts, that the Asylum Authoritiesalreadv contributed one tenth of the whole of the local rates of the borough of Denbigh, and when the asylum extensions had been completed, would have to contribute one seventh of the total local rates. For this enormous contribution, they had got absolutely nothing from the Denbigh local authorities, and all they now asked for was that the Town Council should extend their main sewer to a point where it could be con nected with the asylum drainage system. It was unanimously resolved to make a strong representation to the Local Government Board on the matter. The Committee of Visitors further asked the approval of the Council for the proposed light- ing of the asylum by electricity at an estimated cost of £ 4,642. Mr. J. T. Roberts explained that the present gasworks which supplied illuminating power for the asylum were 40 years old, out of date, and totally inadequate for the purposes of the present building. In any case, the building, old and new, must be lighted; if by gas, the old plant would have to be done away with, and a new plant of a modern character obtained to replace it. The original estimate for the electric installation was E6,000, but this had now been reduced to the figure named. Mr. Issard Davies wanted to know what the total expenditure on the new buildings was expected to be. When the matter came origi nally before the Council, the estimate was, he thought 940,000, but now he was assured it was already over £100,000. Mr. J. T. Roberts said the original estimate was 976,009, and a portion of the work covered by the estimate had already been contracted tor at 9-50,000. He might say there was some dispute between the committee and the archi- tect on the matter, and the architect would be invited to explain to the committee how certain important items were not included in the con- tract, and there would be a special meeting of the committee on Monday next to consider tho matter. The Vice-chairman said that he thought he was within the mark in saying that the total expenditure originally estimated at £ 76,000 would not fall far shurt of 9130,000. Replying to further questions, Mr. J. T. Roberts said the quota of Carnarvonshire for this electric installation would be £ 1,362. Mr. Robert Thomas, Criccieth, said the extensions at DSfibigh were likely to cost Carnarvonshire in the long run more than if they had built an asylum separately for the county (hear, hear). He could not approve of this or any other request for money until they had before them precise figures of completed estimates of expenditure (hear, hear). He knew of nothing except, perhaps, the Manchester Ship Canal—(laughter)—to compare with the asylum in making endless drains upon financial resoiirces- drains which had never been contemplated when the thing was first mooted. He moved that the whole matter be deferred until they had fuller information as to thfl further expenditure likely to be required. Mr. J. T. Roberts thought a portion at least of the estimated expenditure would be recouped. For instance, the Denbigh Town Council would have to supply the sewage system; and the asylum authorities would probably be called upon to supply the town of Denbigh with water, as the resources of the present Denbigh Waterworks Company were inadequate to meet the existing demand, while the asylum waterworks had an over abund- ance. The Vice chairman, while agreeing with Mr. Robert Thomas, thought they had no alterna- tive but to make the best of a bad bargain- though he admitted it was a very bad bargain indeed. But the Carnarvonshire members of the committee were out-voted on every point by the representatives of the other counties. 'Mr. C. A. Jones, in seconding Mr. R. Thomas' amendment, said the whole thing had been conducted in a most unbusinesslike man- ner. It seemed that in the original estimates the most important matters had been over looked. The waterworks had been forgotten, so had the drainage, and here again was the illumination. All these things were sprung upon them, and for his part he was not pre. pared to allow the county to. be repeatedly mulcted in this way in thousands of pounds, without any notice or any opportunity of pro perly considering the matter. Several other members took part in the dis- cussion, and ultimately the original motion was carried by a narrow majority of three votes. Mr. Robert Thomas then moved that the council ask the asylum authorities to furnish them forthwith with a detailed statement of the proposed and estimated further expendi- ture, and this was unanimously agreed to.






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