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ST. ASAPH (FLINT) RURAL DISTRICT COUNCIL. Mr. Robert Morris (ViceChairman) presided at the monthly meeting of the above Council on Friday, the other members present being Messrs. Thomas Morgan, W. Conway Bell, T. Howes Roberts, Thomas Ellis, John Williams (Pydew), Rev. John Adams, Mrs. Rawlins, Miss Bennett, with the Clerk (Mr. Grimsley). INDISPOSITION OF THE CHAIRMAN. M iv John Roberts, Geinasj €h°irjaaa of the I Council, although present at the meeting of the Guardians, had to leave owing to indisposition, and was, therefore, unable to occupy the chair. DENBIGH INFIRMARY. The first item on the agenda was to consider a letter from the Chairman of the Denbighshire Infirmary enclosing a copy of a resolution as to the commemoration of the 60th year of the Queen's Reign, and suggesting that an effort should be made to free the Infirmary from debt. The Clerk said the letter had been read two or three times, and had been adjourned from the last meeting pending the decision of the Board of Guardians on the question. The Guardians had subscribed 10 guineas to the object. It was decided to lay the letter on the table A MELIDEN GRIEVANCE, A letter having been read from the Ecclesias- tical Commissioners with reference to the dangerous fence at Brynhyfryd, Meliden. Mr. Thomas Ellis said he had seen Mr. An- drews who was most immediately interested in the matter, with reference to the fence, and he would suggest that Mr. Lloyd, their Surveyor, should meet Mr. Andrews on the spot before anything further was done. He thought the Council should meet the other party in some way or other. The Chairman suggested the appointment of a small committee to deal with the matter with the Surveyor. Mr. Thomas Ellis agreed. Mr. John Adams: Are we liable to make this fence? Mr. Thomas Ellis: I do not think we are liable as far as that goes, but as they are will- ing to do something, I think we should do some- thing to make a good job of it. On the motion of Mr, Adams, it was decided to appoint the Chairman, Messrs. Thomas Ellis, John Williams, and Conway Bell, as a committee to visit the spot, and report. A GRIEVANCE AT DYSERTH. Some discussion took place on a letter received from Mr. Charles Thomas, Bryn Einion, Dy- serth, with reference to the removal of stones placed by him on the side of the road, and as to the levelling of the rubbish on the waste land near his house. Mr. Thomas contended that he had greatly improved the road at the spot men- tioned, and that the Council should give him some acknowledgment for the work. As to the stones, he said they would be carted away in a fortnight or three weeks, but he was surprised to find that a complaint had been made in this matter, because the stones had been deposited on a piece of waste land, and caused no incon- venience to anybody. The Surveyor, in reply to the Chairman, said Mr. Thomas had levelled a little on the rubbish, but it was yet too high to correspond with the height of the road. The work had certainly not been done to the satisfaction of the Coun- cil. Mr. John Williams said he had seen Mr. Thomas on the matter, and he expected the rub- ibish would go down in the course of time so as TO be level with the road. He (Mr. Williams) was also of the same opinion. Mr. W. Conway Bell suggested that a small committee should visit the place. The matter had been on the books of the Council for a con- siderable time, and there seemed to be no end to it. The committee, already appointed to visit Meliden, was requested to report on this matter also. THE MELIDEN SEWERAGE LOAN. A letter was read from the Public Loan Board as to the apportionment of Meliden Sewerage Loan. In reply to Mr. Conway Bell, the Clerk said that the share of Meliden in the Loan would be calculated according to the rateable value in September last. Land would be calculated at one-fourth. Mr. Bell said he found that the rate was in. creasing very much .n Prestatyn, and he hoped that this would not affect Meliden. The Clerk said it would not. It was ultimately decided to leave the matter entirely in the hands of the Clerk. A CURIOUS DEMAND. The Clerk of the Urban District Council of Prestatyn wrote with reference to the plans re- lating to the sewerage works, and the apportion- ment of the Sewerage Loan. He stated that his Council had claim to all the plans relating to the Prestatyn Sewerage System, but as they were now in the custody of the Rural District Council, it was impossible for their Surveyor to carry out his duties, unless his predecessor handed over 'all that he was possessed of' (laughter). Mr. Grimsley stated that the only plan which he had, had already been handed over to the Prestatyn Council. It was decided, on the motion of Mr. Howes Roberts, to ask the Urban Council to state more distinctly what they required. GRANT UNDER THE AGRICULURAL RATES' ACT. The Clerk submitted the certificate of the Local Government Board as to the annual grant payable to the Council under the above Act, which showed that the actual sum amounted to f277 Is. 2d. This sum, Mr. Grim- sley said, would be paid by the Government to the Council for the next five years in relief of the rate. THE PRESERVATION OF COMMON i LANDS. A letter received from the Commons Pre- servation Society with reference to the dis- figurement of green turf of Common lands by contractors to Highway Authorities, &c., was ordered to be laid on the table. SIR W. G. WILLIAMS AND HIS COMPLAINT. Sir W. Grenville Williams, who was unable to be present at the meeting, wrote calling at. tention to the bad state of the road between Bodelwyddan Lodge and Gore Mill. The road, he stated, was used by farmers to take their corn to the mill, and had always been repaired by the Highway Surveyor. The ruts were 8 inches deep over a short length, and it was most dangerous to travel over. When he (Sir William) was Surveyor for the two itownships in which the road was situated, he always re- paired it; and it bad also been repaired. by his predecessor. In reply to a question, The Surveyor said this particnlar road had not been repaired by the Highway Board during the time his brother (Mr. Robert Lloyd) was Surveyor, and he had not yet done anything to it. The length was about 200 yards, and it seemed to him as if it had not been repaired for many years. Mr. Conway Bell said the road was undoub- tedly in a bad state, but who was responsible for its repair was another question. Mr. Thomas Ellis was of opinion that the Council should not repair it, inasmuch as it had not previously been cared for by the Council. The Chairman But Sir William distinctly states that he and his predecessor have repaired it. Mr. Conway Bell said the road was very use- fwltlothefàrmetsto go to the mill, and he would propose that the Clerk be instructed to write Sir William pointing out that the road did nob seem to come within the jurisdiction of the Council, and that he be required to give further proof that it did. Mr. Howes Roberts seconded, and it was agreed to. THE INSPECTOR'S REPORT. Mr. Bell, the Sanitary Inspector, having been confined to fche house through indisposition, his son attended the meeting, and read his father's report. On the motion of Mr. Adams, a vote of sym. pathy with him was passed. THE CARTAGE OF ROAD MATERIALS. lIANb V. MACHINX-BROKEN STONE. On the consideration of the Surveyor's re- port, Mr. Conway Bell referred to the question of carting materials to the road. He said that, as the farmers were theprincipal ratepayers, they should be afforded every opportunity of carry- ing the stones at the Bame ratio eg somebody else, thereby receiving imnie e; pteuniary, assistance to help them to pay their rates. Mr. Adams also spoke to the same effect, and said that farmers should certainly be treated with every indulgence in a matter of this kind. Mr. Bell said that, at the next meeting, the Council would be discussing the tenders for the supply of materials, and the question would arise, whether they intended to accept hand or machine-broken stones. Between this and the next meetings members should weigh this mat- ter well. It had been stated last year that bhe stones were to be hand-broken, but nothing to this effect appeared in the tender form. The Chairman said there was a resolution somewhere on the books to the effect that the Council would not accept machine-broken stone. Mr. Howes Roberts: I am also under the same impression. In my opinion, hand broken stones are much more desirable than the other. Mr. Thomas Morgan No, I do not think they are. Mr. Bell said that Penmaenmawr stone was used all over Cheshire and other places, and it was all broken by machine. The Rhyl Sur- veyor also much preferred machine-broken stone to the other. Personally, he (Mr. Bell) was of the same opinion, because machine- broken stones combine together better, and they could be purchased at least 30 per cent, cheaper. Mr. Adams said they should not forget the great difference there was in quality between Penmaenmawr stone and lime stone, when broken by two different methods. If put in a machine, lime stone was so bruised in the crushing that it was really unfit to be placed on the road. The Chairman said that machine-broken stones would combine sooner, but, on the other hand, they were badly crushed. Mr. Adams said that millions of stone no thicker than a shilling piece could be found amongst those broken by machine, and these were crushed to dust the moment they were put on the road. Mr. Bell said it was strange that the autho- rities in Cheshire declined to acknowledge hand-broken stone at all, if they were better than the other stone. Mr. Morgan What would be the difference in price? Mr. Bell said it would be about 35 per cent. Mr. Morgan: Then I propose that we accept machine-broken stone. Mr. Adams: I propose that both be tendered for. The Council can the see the difference in prices, and decide accordingly. Mr. Bell: And I propose that the same ten- der form as last year be used. Mr. Thomas Morgan seconded. Mr. John Adams: It would be better to ask those sending in tenders to specify whether they tender for hand-broken or machine-broken stone. Mr. Bell said he would have no objection to add words to the tender form asking each per- son to specify whether he tendered for hand or machine-broken stone. Mr. Adams said this was exactly what he meant, and the motion in that form was agreed to. THE SANITARY CONDITION OF VILLAGES. Mrs. Rawlins said she wished to call the at- tention of the Council to the report recently presented by the Medical Officer of Health (Dr. Lloyd Roberts), which pointed to the unsatis- factory condition of some of the villages they had to care for. The report stated that Bodfari required a main drain in the upper part to carry off to some place for disposal the collected sewage from the houses. At present, it lay in the roadway channel, and was a nuisance. As regards Tremeirchion, the report stated that no steps had been akento provide an accessible water supply for the village. As to Rhuddlan, they were informed that the condition of things at and about Penycefndy continued as detailed in former reports, such as in 1894. At Bodel- wyddan, the sewage disposal of the village con- tinued as fermerly reported, nothing having been done to remedy the deficiencies. She (Mrs. Rawlins) thought that a report like this clearly proved that the Council was not doing its duties, and would propose that something be done to remedy the defects referred to in the report. Miss Bennett seconded, and pointed out that St. Asaph was not provided with a proper water supply. Mr. Howes Roberts said he had called atten- tion to the state of the drainage at Bodel- wyddan, and understood that it was in a fair way to be remedied, but it seemed to him now that nothing had been done. Mr. Thomas Morgan Is that by the church ? Mr. Roberts No, the. other side—by the chapel (laughter). Mrs. Rawlins said she was not prepared to to say what steps should be taken. Committees had been appointed to go into the complaints, but still nothing was done. The Medical Officer for instance stated in the report, that the condition of Rhuddlan was exactly as it was in 1894-three years back. The nuis- ance existed there at the present time. Mr. Bell said that this partly referred to the Rhyl manure depôt, but this was remedied to a certain extent. The Rhyl people would have to supply a new depot in the near future. Mrs. Rawlins said nuisances existed in con- nection with houses at Rhuddlan belonging to the Bodelwyddan Estate. Mr. Adams asked whether nothing had been done to remove this nuisance ? Mrs. Rawlins No, nothing, and their condi- tion is very serious. Mr. Bell said that if the Council wished to effect an immediate remedy the tenants would have to be turned out of their houses. The im- provements were going to be done. The Chairman hoped that the discussion would have the desired effect. MATERIAL FOR THE ROADS. The Surveyor submitted the following esti- mate of the material required for the roads in the different parishes, and the total cost in each partsh for material, labour, and cartage:— Bodfari, 200 loads, £ 66; Tremeirchion, 300, £ 108; Cwm, 350, £ 146 Dyserth, 430, 9146; Meliden, 260, £ 99; Rhuddlan, 430, £ 207; St. Asaph, 620, 920-9. Total loads required, 2,490; total cost, £ 1,001.


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