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-6- SCHOOL. BtlARD MEETING. The monthly meeting of the Bosrd was held on Tuesday, Mr. J. Harrison Jones presiding, and there were also present Messrs. Thomas Roberts (Vice Chairman), William Keepfer, Edward Mills, lev. H. 0. Hughes, and the Rev. H. Humphreys, with the Clerk (Mr. Ie It Reherts). A letter, of apology was read from the Rev. B. Williams The Chairman eongratrilated the Rev. H. 0. Hughes on his recovery from his recent serious illness, and said the members of the Board were, no doubt, glail to see him amongst them once again. A SUGGESTION BY THE BOROUGH MAGISTRATES. A letter was read from Mr. J. Parry Jones, Clerk to the Borough Justices, conveying a re- solution passed by the Bench at a recent sit- ting, suggesting that the School Board should request parents who were summoned for not sending their children to school, to bring the child complained of before the Court to be re- primanded as this might have a better effect than continually fining them. Mr.Thomas Roberts said if the Board thonght it wise to adopt this course, well and good. But it was questionable to him whether any good would result frern it. Moreover, the Board could not compel the parents to do this. The Clerk: Ne, eompalsion cannot be used. The Chairman said that bringing children be- fore an open Conrt to be reprimanded by the Bench ought to have sonae beneficial influence upon them. Mr. Mills said that it would be a most awk- ward thing for the Board to pass a resolution embodying the suggestion of the Bench, and after all to find that the parents did not bring the children to the Conrt. Mr. Thomas Roberts: There is no compul- sion, and, therefore, to pass a resolution will have no effect. The Chairman thought it would not be wise for the Board to refuse the suggestion of the Magistrates. Mr. Thomas Roberts: We have don", every- thing that it is possible to do; yet, some of the parents treat us with eontempt. The letter was allowed to be laid on1 the table. THE USE OF BIBLES IN THE SCHOOLS, THE BI-Ulir«T7Al> DIFFICULTY. The next business on the agenda was a sug- gestion by the Clerk that each of the scholars in Love Lane Boys and Frongoeh Girls Schools be provided with Bibles for school work. In giving his reasons for making the sugges- tion, the Clerk stated that complaints were made to him by Nonconformist parents that the children could not be taught the Bible properly in the schools, unless each child had a copy of the Scriptures before him. When any other lesson, was given them, a book bearing upon the subject of the lesson was provided them, and he ventured to make the suggestion in the first place, to remove any cause of complaint amongst parents, and secondly to enable the children to follow their Scriptural lesson better when read out by the master. Mr. Thomas Roberts said he should like to have a clear understanding OR the meaning of Clerk's suggestion. Did he mean that the Scriptures were simply to be read ? If so, he (Mr. Roberts) was perfectly willing.. At the same time, no question of dogma should be al- lowed to enter into the ieachin. Even the Nonconformist denominations did not take the same view on sneh questions. The Baptists for instance, did not agree with the other Non- conformist bodies mt the subject of baptism. He was quite wiHiag for the Bible to be taught, but not the slightest comment upon it. The Clerk Then, yea cannot teach the Bible at all, sir. Mr. Mills: Dogmas are Not allowed to he taught in school, even now, I take it ? The Clerk No, certainly not. Mr. Mills Then, by granting this request, we cannot do any harm, and we will not injure our friends the Baptists or anybody else. Mr. Thomas Roberts said he did not wish to injure the feelings of any denomination. He was perfectly sineere npon that point. The Clerk then read the resolution passed by the Board some time £ ^o with reference to the religious teaching in the schools. This resolu- tion was to the effect that teachers be requested to include in the list of subjects to be taught in the school, the History of the Jews and Jewish Nation, and Geography and History of Pale- stine, and that when using the Bible, no refer- eace whatever should be made to the doctrines taught therein, except when it was necessary to do so for the discifline and moral teaching of the children. Mr. Thomas Roberts said that this resolution had enlightened him considerably on the sub- ject. The Clerk said it was evident that dogmas could not be taught in the sehools. He had brought the matter forward because several Nonconformists had eomplained to him, stating that they preferred their children to learn the catechism in, the National School than that the teaching of the Bifcle should be neglected in the Board Schools, Mr. Mills said he was very glad that the Clerk had brought this matter forward. He was of opinion that every child in the Denbigh and Henllan Schools should have a Bible each, and not only a Bible, but a Welsh Bible, and when the master gave the lesson, let the children have an opportunity of turning to it, and see that he correctly read it. He would propose that they be supplied with a Welsh copy of the Bible. The Chairman said there were English boys in the sehools, and if all the Bibles supplied were to be Welsh, these hoys could not follow the lessen. Mr. Mills: Then )et pwrely English children have a copy in English. The Chairman was afraid the head teacher could not afford time to give a lesson in both English and Welsh. He was as much a Welsh- man as Mr. Mills, but they ought to look at the question from a practical standpoint. Mr. Mills: But you must bear in mind that Welsh is now taught in the schools. Children must learn Welsh. Welsh ehildren are obliged to learn English; therefore, let the English children learn Welsh, Inasmuch as Welsh is taught in school, I think we should give each child a Welsh Bible. At this time, Mr. Humphreys entered the room, and the Chairman explained to him the nature of the Clerk's suggestion. Mr. Humphreys: Is it meant to celebrate the Queen's Diamond Jnbilee? (langhter). Mr. Mills: How many Bibles would be re- quired ? Mr. Thomas I-tobeirtm.- Ten would require about 450. The Clerk: The average attendance in the two schools last year was 334. Of course, you will not require Bibles for the infants. Mr. Humphreys: Tfhe hooks I presume will remain in the schools ? The Clerk Yes, of eoume. Mr. Hughes Does the, head master read the lesson in Welsh or Bnglish T The Clerk: English at prexent, I think. They ;ake it as a reading lessen at the beginning of: ihe school hours. Mr. Humphreys said he was of opinion thai n order to make the lessen intelligible to En- glish children, English Biblee should be pro- rided them. Of conrse, the teacher could give ihe lessen both in Bsg&k and Welsh, bat En à

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