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Family Notices



BOARD OF GUARDIANS. Mr. Henry Williams presided over the fort- nightly meeting of this Board on Monday, and the members present in addition to the Dis- trict Councillors were Dr. J. R. Jenkins, Messrs. J. H. Simon, J. O. Williams, Isaac Jones, T. P. Roberts, and Thomas Jones (Llan- ferres). THE APPOINTMENT OF RATE COLLECTOR. The Council, first of all, proceeded to receive the replies from some of the Parish Councils in reference to the appointment of collector of rates for the Llanrhaiadr District, which were as follows:— Ab mcheeltr and Clocaenog.—That the Guard ians elect a collector, and that the person so appointed be also assistant overseer. Derwegt.-Tliat a meeting of Councillors and Guardians of all the parishes in the district be called to discuss the question. Gyffylliog.—That two collectors be elected, and that the person appointed be also assistant overseer, but if the majority vote in favour of only one officer, they agree to this. Llandyrnog ancl Llangwyfan. That Guard- ians elect a collector of rates. Llangynhafal.—That Guardians elect a collec- tor of rates, and that the person appointed be also assistant overseer. Llanrhaiadr (Rural).—That Guardians elect a collector of rates, and the same person to be appointed assistant overseas, but urge that the district he divided. Llanrhaiadr (Urban).-Had advised the Local Government Board that it had no objection to make to the proposal of the Guardians. Llanychan.—Thai; Guardians elect collector of rates, and the person appointed be also assistant overseer. Llanynys (Rural).—That the Parish Council elect an assistant overseer, and the Guardians be asked to appoint the same person rate col- lector but if the majority vote in favour of only one collector, the Council would agree to this. Nantglyn and Llanynys (Urban).-No reply had been received. The Clerk said that he had recieved a letter from Derwen consenting to the course proposed to be adopted by the Guardians with regard to the filling of the vacancy. The Chairman said no official reply had been read from Llanynys urban. There were only two ratepayers in the parish, and they inform- ed him of their willingness to entrust both offi- cies-the collectorship, and the overaeership, to one man. Mr. Isaac Jones said that Nantglyn had con- sidered the question, and agreed to the same course as the one now suggested by the Chair- man. The Clerk: The question now is, do these several answers justify you in taking action to fill this vacancy ? Gyffylliog and Llanrliai adr are the only parishes that propose to divide the district, and the two collectors. Mr. Gomer Roberts: Gyffylliog will agree to one officer, if the majority of the other parish- es are of that opinion. Mr. T. P. Roberts; Should not the minority of the Parishes give up to the wishes of the majority in this matter? The Clerk: Gyffylliog are willing to agree with the majority, whilst Llanrhaiadr, al- thougn agreeable to do the same, still suggest that there should be two officers. The only question for you now is whether you appoint a collector of rates, and leave to the parishes the appointment of overseers. Mr. Isaac Daniel said that Llanrhaidai- would be willing to bow to the wish of the majority of the parishes, but they still believed that two should be appointed- The Chairman said that at the last meeting, the Board unanimously passed a resolution in favour of appointing one collector. He wished to know whether they wished to do anything different that day. Mr. Isaac Daniel proposed that two collect- ors be appointed. Mr Issac Jones seconded. Mr. Owen Williams proposed as an amend- ment that they apply to the Local Government Board for an order to appoint a collector The question had been fully dealt with at the last Board, and there was no need of submitting any reasons to prove that this was the wisest course. The feeling of the district was un- doubtedly in favour of the appointment of one man to do the work. Mr. E. P. Jones seconded. On being put to the vote, the amendment was carried by a large majority, those voting for the original motion being Messrs. Isaac Daniel, Isaac Jones (Nantglyn), John Wil- liams (Llanrhaiadr), and Edward Jones (Llan- rhaiadr). The Clerk said that Mr. Fox would be going out of office on the 25th inst., and asked the Board whether it was their wish that he should apply forthwith to the Local Government Board, so as to be able to advertise in the local press during this week, and the appointment made at the next meeting of the Board. Mr. Thomas Jones was afraid that the time in which to receive the applications would be too short to make the appointment at the next meeting. Mr. T. H. Roberts also thought that a week would be too short. The Chairman: Those who know about the vacancy are, no doubt, prepared with their ap- plications. The Clerk: They call with me almost every day with reference to it (laughter). The Chairman Do you agree to fix the salary at ZESO, and to advertise it accordingly? Mr. E. P. Jones: Yes, XSO is quite sufficient. I propose that the salary be £ 80. Mr. E. T. Jones seconded. The Chairman: Then the resolution will be, that the Clerk be instructed to apply to the Local Government Board for an order to appoint a rate collector, and that if this order is received during this week, that he should advertise the post at a salary of CSO." Dr. Jenkins: Is thers a pension for the out- going officer ? The Clerk: Yes. we cannot help it. Dr. Jenkins How long has he been in office ? The Clerk: For over 40 years. Dr. Jenkins: Then he will get the full pen- sion of over two thirds of his salary of £ 105 ? The Clerk said that the new officer if he cared to retire after attaining the age of 65 years, would, under the new Superannu- ation Act, be entitled to the 60th part of hi 3 salary for every year of office. Of course, he would have to subscribe out of his salary to the superannuation funds. Mr. Owen Williams: We cannot prevent him from having a pension. Dr. Jenkins said he did not mean to do it. What he wanted to call attention to was, that the Board, in making previous appointments, did not take this matter of pension into their calculation. The new officer would certainly not be entitled to the same salary and pension as the old officer. The Clerk said that out of XSO he would have to pay f,2 annually towards his pension fund. Mr. John Roberts wanted to know what salary Mr. Fox received when he first entered the service of the Board as collector ? The Clerk: I cannot tell you that now without a great deal of trouble. Mr. John Roberts: Was it not something like E75 ? The Clerk: Yes, £75 or £80. But when Mr. Fox was appointed, the district comprised three divisions. Mr. Roberts: How many years has he served for the salary of £105? The Clerk said he could not say. Mr. Roberts: I think we ought to know this before we pass anything with regard to the salary. < The Clerk said Mr. Fox had been 4f) years in office, and to his knowledge had been receiving £ 105 for 25 years. Mr. John Roberts proposed that the salary be left oub, because the Board should have some basis to work upon. They ought to know what salary Mr. Fox received when he entered their service. Mr. Owen Williams failed to see how this affected the filling of the present vacancy. The Clerk said Mr. Fox would be rehiring in the next Board, and would ask them to grant him his pension. He (the Clerk) would have the figures ready by then. Mr. J. H. Simon proposed that the salary be fixed at £ 70. Mr. T. H. Roberts seconded. On being put to the meeting. 7 voted in favour of £ 70, and 11 in favour of £80, the motion being declared carried. Mr. Owen Williams said the majority of the parishes were evidently anxious for the rate collector to secure also the assistant overseer- ship, and personally he was in favour of the collector having the same post. The Chairman inquired whether it would not be better to give in the advertisement the in timation that the officer was not to accept any other office except the assistant overseership. Mr. T. P. Roberts said he would be very glad .to propose such a resolution. Mr. John Williams (Llanrhaiadr) asked what had they to do with it. Their business was to appoint a rate collector, and what other work the man did they should not interfere with. Mr. T. P. Roberts said that if a man who was appointed to this office was allowed to retain ap other offices, it would be in direct contraven- tion to the sermons preached at the table for many years past. In his opinion, the man should not encumber himself with too many public offices. Mr. T. H. Roberts said he would second Mr. T. P. Roberts' proposition. If the man ap- pointed to this office was allowed to retain other businesses, the probability would be that he would do his own business first, and the business of the Guardians afterwards. Mr. John Williams then asked whether a man holding a small farm of ten or 15 acres would be prohibited from receiving the ap- pointment. Mr. T. P. Roberts: No, certainly not. That would be his home. The Chairman said that if a man held a few acres of land in this way, and if it would be a matter of convenience to him in carrying on the duties connected with his office, such as keeping a pony and so forth, he should net be prohibited from that of course, but if a man held a f Hm with the purpose of making profit out of it, that would be quite another matter. Mr. T. P. Roberts said it had been the cus- tom of some people to pile offices upon the shoulders of the same man, but now that day had passed. He considered it likely that this office would be worth £ 160 to £ 180 a year, and surely that was enough for any man, without his needing to get other public offices. The Chairman said that of course he did not mean that a small farm of 10 to 15 acres would come under the description of an additional office. Mr. Gomer Roberts said that they had before them the question of the appointment of rate collector, and if that man failed to carry out his duties properly, they would, no doubt, de- privehim of the office. The duties of rate collec- tor were not the same as those of the relieving officer. The relieving officer should certainly give the whole of his time to the office, as he had to deai with the sick persons, lunatics, and so on. Bat a rate collector would have no- thing to do but to collect the rates, and if after collecting them he had time to spare, why pro- hibit him from employing that time usefully to hims ilf ? He proposed that the matter be left open, and that no stipulation on the sub- ject should be put in the advertisement. Mr. Isaac Daniel seconded the motion. Mr. Thomas Jones asked Mr. T. P. Roberts whether he meant in his proposition that the man appointed to the office should not hold another office from which he would be in the receipt of wages? Mr. T. P. Roberts: Yes, that is so, I cer- tainly would not interfere in a man holding a few acres of land on which he would keep a cow and a horse. What I mean is, that he should not be allowed to hold any public office. Mr. Gomer Roberts said it was understood that no parish was obliged to appoint their rate collector as its assistant overseer. Therefore, the man appointed as rate collector had no security that he would receive anything exc-pt the £ 80 a year in respect of the rate collector- ship, and the X-80 was not too much for a man entrusted with such a responsible office. There- fore, supposing he did not, receive the assistant overseerships for the parishes, the man certainly had time, and should have the opportunity to do other work besides rate collection. On being put to the vote, the meeting recor- ded five votes for the amendment by Mr. Gomer Roberts, which was defeated by a large majority. The four voting with Mr. Gomer Roberts v ere Messrs Isaac Daniel, Isaac Jones, J. Williams, and Edward Jones. Mr. Owen Williams asked whether they could not unanimously agree on the matter. In hit opinion, a. man keeping a small shop, looked after by his wife, would not come within the restriction. He would like them to be unani- mous. Mr. T. P. Roberts said that what he meant was, that it was not right even for a shop- keeper to carry on that business when appoin- ted to an office like this. A man keeping a small allotment with a cow and a horse, and using that horse for his own purposes in collec- ting the rate, did not come in the same cate- gory. What he meant was, that the man should not take such offices as clerkships of Schoo! Boards, and so on. The discussion then dropped, and the Board went on to consider the Master's report. THE HOUSE. The Master reported the entertainment kindly arranged for by Mr. T. Rouw which had taken place in the previous week, when a capital entertainment was given by the Llan- bedr Black Swallow Minstrels. At the close Mr. Rouw distributed buns to all the inmates. Illustrated papers had been received from Miss Ma.ysmor Gee, Pen-v-bont. Votes of thanks were passed to Mr. Rouw and Miss Gee.

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