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DENBIGHSHIRE & FLINTSHIRE AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY. THE DENBIGH LOCAL COMMITTEE AND THEIR BALANCE. AT the Bull Hotel, on Thursday afternoon, Col. Mesham presided over a meeting of the Denbigh Local Committee of the above society, there being also present Messis P. P. Pennant, R. W. W Wynn, Captain Cole, T. W. Bowdage, ThomA. Roberts (Lleweni), Wm. Jones (Penporchell). T. A. Wynne Edwards. Pryce E. Story, W. H. Evans (Chirk Shop), Robert Owen, Wm. Jam' s (North and South Wales Bank), David Williams (auctioneer), R. E. Birch, and T. Gold Edwards. Mr. Frank Bellis, the general secretary was also present, The Chairman said the meeting had been called t,) consider whether, or not, the balance of F,45 left in the hands of the Local Committee, as a result of the Show held in Denbigh in the year 1894, should be handed over to the general funds of the Society. In his opinion, the money should most certainiv he paid over to the general fund. Denbigh had created a precedent by withholding their balance from the parent society; and he would have most certainly protested against it at the time, had he known that it was the first in- stance of the kind during the whole history of the Society. He sincerely hoped that the Local Com mittee had changed their minds with regard to this money, and that they, would transfer it with- out fustoer deiay to the society. Mr. P. p, 1 ennant moved that the balance be handed over at once. He moved a similar, rpsolu tioo the last time they met; but the question was then adjouruei pending the decision of the sub- committee on the subject of altering the rules of the Society. That had been done in another meeting. When he made the proposition on a previous occasion, he pointed out that in all pre I vious years, with the exception of this particular balance, any surplus on the Local Fund, had al- ways been bunded over, including the balance at Rhyl the year before, and also the balance at Ruthin last year, which was a very large one. Be was strongly of opinion that the Denbigh Local Committee should hcalthe breach by handing over the money. It was their bounden duty to do so for the good of the agriculturalists of the district; and he bad great pleasure In moving a proposition to that effect. Captain Cole seconded. Mr. T. W. Bowdage thought that the objection the Local Committee had against the management of the Society had been removed by the alteration of the rules as agreed upon that day and that the trustees-Col. Mesham and Mr. P. E. Story —should, tbetefore, be requested to hand over the balance of:C45 to the general fund. At the same time, he would sugge&t that the money be kept fo he benefit of the show when it was next held at I Denbigh. He very much iegretted the mis-underj standing and the friction that had occurred with reference to this question, and hoped the banding over of the money would remove any bad feeling that might exist. Mr. T. A. Wynne Edwards could not agree with tha previous speakers. The Local Corn mittee of the Denbigh Show was appointed in the year 1894, for a distinct purpose viz to collect a fund locally to supplement the Society's Prize List with Local Prizes'suitable to the district. Through the energetic action of the vice-president for the time being (Mr. P. E. Story), and the local secretary (Mr. J. Ll. Williams), a laree amount was collected. Now, there was no doubt but that the Local Committee cou!d have dealt with the surplus in any way they liked but in- stead of handing it over for the benefit of the Ixfirmary, or Anv other object, as they might have done, they placed them in the bank, in the name of the president (Col Mesham) and the vice-presi- dent (Mr P. E. Story), for a specific purpose; viz, to assist the next show held in Denbigh. He to k it that those two gentlemen were bound to carry out the instrnctions of the then Local Committee, many members of which had since died, and re- tain the monev for the benefit of the next show to he held at Denbigh. The Local Committee of the Denbigh Show was a defunct body and the pro ceedings of the present meeting were, therefore, out of order. Moreover, they were wrong in calling upon the two trustees to do what they were not legally entitled to do under the insfruc tions given by the Local Committee at the time. He wonld. therefore, object to hand over the u>o- ey to the general fund. The Chairman contended that the Local Com mitten should not be allowed to over-ride the General Committee, as Mr. T. A Wynne Edwa, ds seemed to suggest. He considered that the Local Committee was not a defunct body, because it had never been dissolved by the General Committee, which according to the rules, appointed it. The Local Fund, undoubtedly, belonged to the Sordetv. as it was collected for the special purpose of snp plementing the Society's Prize List. Denbigh had done what had never been known during the fiftv years the Society had been in existence and he thought they were wrong in keeping back the money. Mr P. E. Story said they had heard a great deal of balances handed over; but he questioned v'ry much whether so large a sum as £ 45 had evr been so transferred. The Chairman said it did not matter whether the balance was £10 or f 100. It made no differ ence in the principle. Mr. P E. Storey said that when the balance was small it would not be worth keeping. The Denbigh Committee had often been taunted with the fact that Ruthin people had handed over the bafauce; but that bad nothing to do with the way in which Denbigh thought fit to dispose of their balance. Rule 15, which compelled Local Committees to hand over their balances had o"ly been passed since the Show was held at Denbigh therefore, the chairman's remark that the Local Fund belonged to the Society, and that the Local Committee were bound to hand over their balan- ces. could not possibly be correct, or such a rule would not have been required. The £ 45 now in dispute had been placed in trust for a specific pur- po-e, and he contended that even the trustees could not deal with it except for that specific pu'pose; certainly, the present locaf committee could not In his opinion, the present meeting should never have been called. Mr. Bowdage had referred to friction and hard words but he could only say that those hard words had borne good fruit, and the rules, in consequence, had been altered very much, in his opinion, to the be- nefit of the Society. Mr. R. W. Williams Wynne maintained that the balance could not belong to Denbigh at all, as the Local Fund bad been expressly collected to supplement the prizes of the Society, Hn would ask who was to benefit by the money—the tow. of Denbigh, or the agriculturalists of the Society's district ? If they said it was for the benefit of the town, then be would say that nothing worse could befall the town than causing this friction between it and the other towns in the two counties, I, on the other hand, the money was for the benefit of the agriculturalists, then Mr. T. A. Wynne Edwards and Mr. P. E. Story should withdraw their objection and hand over the money. Mr. P. E. Story again said he was still doubt- ful whether the trustees could hand the balance over. Therefore, he would not like to bind him ► elf by his vote, and sign a cheque for the above amount Mr. William Jones I hope you will not. The money should be kept for the benefit of the next show at Denbigh The Chairman said he was appointed in his absence; and unless the money were handed over, he would take the earliest opportunity of with- drawing from such a position. After further discussion, in which Mr. T. A. Wynne Edwards and Mr. P. E. Story were ap pe ded to withdraw their objection, Mr. Story said he would be perfectly willing to refer the matter to any solicitor or barrister to have their decision as to the rights of the trustees. Mr. William James:-Would there be any balance left after' (laughter) ? A vote was then taken on Mr. Pennant's, resolution, which was put in the following form That Colonel Mesham and Mr. Story be authorised to hand over the balance to the General Fund.' Seven voted in favour of the motion, and four against. Mr. Story said he would take time to con sider his position, and hoped the committee would not hurry him. The meeting then terminated. The General Management Committee of the above Society held its adjourned meeting at the Bull Hotel on Thursday. Mr. R. W. Williams- Wynn, president for the year, occupied the chair and in addition to the members of the Denbigh Local Committee, whose names ap- pear elsewhere, there were present Messrs. T. J. Rouw, Ruthin; J. Williamson, Derwen Hall; and Mr. Leathes, Wern Fawr. The meeting had been convened for the pur- pose of taking into consideration certain altera- tions in the rules of the Society, as proposed by the Sub-committee appointed for the pur- pose. PRINTING AND ADVERTISING. The Sub-committee recommended that Rule 14, I which provided that the whole of the punting be undertaken by the Society, and, as far as practi- cable, done in the town in which the Show for the year was held, the Local Committee to subscribe £10 towards the expense, should be altered, and made to read as follows :-Tha.t the whole of the printing and advertising be let by tender in the district, of the Society, and that the tenders be submitted to the Finance Committee also, that the Finance Committee be requested to consider the question of fitting up the Show yard. Atter some discussion, it was decided to con- firm the new rule. [The cost of printing and adveitising has, on more than one occasion, been the subject of keen discussion in the meeting of the Society and several members protested against what they con- sidered to be an unnecessary waste of money in tilt;, connection (When the balance sheet of the Ruthin Show was subriiittf-d to the Finance Com- mittee at Mold, Mr. Story, Denbigh, called atten- tion to the items of £ 92 for printing and ndver tising, and £ 33 for setting up the fixtures in the Show yard, the cost of taking them down and the cartage not being included in the latter amount.. These were the pi-irleipal items of expenditure, with the exception of prizes, and Mr. Story con- sidered them to be far too excessive. He entered his protest in the meeting, but was not supported. At the last meeting ot the General Alanagemeni Committee in Denbigh, Mr. Story was pressed to baud over the balance of £4:5 in the hands of the Local Committee to the General Fund but be refused, giving as one of his reasons that the money of the Society were loosely spent bj L Secretary in printing, advertising, and setting up the Show yard. This led to the appointment of I a Sub-committee to revise the rules, which Com- mittee reported to the present meeting. In the meantime, Mr. Story drew out a number of sua- ( g stions bearing on the question of expenditure, and sent them to the members of the Sub com- mittee. The suggestions were brought forward, one of them being, that the printing and adver- tising should be let by tender in the Society's district, and that the fixing of the Show vard should be let in the same way. This the Sub committee reported to the meeting of the General Management Committee, with the result that tbe printing aDd advertising will henceforth be let by tender, and considered by the Finance Corn mittee. We give the above explanation, so that our readers may understand the reasons which ied Mr Storv, on behalf of the Local Committee, to withhold the balance of 945, and why the Com- mittee ultimately adopted the new rule with re- gard to the printing and advertising.] THE GENERAL SECRETARY AND HIS DUTIES. It was suggested that rule 4 should be so al- tered as to throw the whole responsibility of arranging for the shows, &c., on the General Secretary (Mr F. Bellis), thereby doing away with the necessity of appointing a paid local secretary The Chairman explained that this alteration was recommended with a view of economising, and to avoid further friction. The secretary would receive the same salary as before; but if he desired the assistance of a local secretary, he would be allowed to engage one, and pay bim out of his own salary. Mr. Story said that the local fund, which was mainly collected by the Local Secretary, was the backbone of the Society; and he should be glarl to support the suggested alteration if the local collections would not sufler by the change. Almost the whole of the local sub- scriptions for th- Denbigh show were collected by the Local Secretary (Mr J. Ll. Williams), and himself and if the alteration would cause the local fund to fall off, he would be inclined to allow the Secretary, say, a sum of ;CIO to assist him in payin a local man. They were now paying their Local Secretaries £40. so that hv adopting this suggestion, they could save £ 30. He was a man of economy himself but was very anxious not to do anything that was likely to adversely affect the local subscrip tions. ki,r. Thomas Roberts, Lleweni, proposed that £10 be allowed to the Secretary towards procuring local assistance Mr Story was afraid that Mr. Bellis would not get nearly as many suhcriptions if a local secretaryship was done away with altogether Mr. Pennant questioned whether Mr. Bellis would agree to carry on his work under the altered conditions and to pay for local assis- tance out of his own present salary. Mr. Bellis said, that if they expected him to pay a local Secretary from his present salary lie did not think he would be inclin- d to go on with his work. If them eting required an un- dertaking for him to the effect, he was not prepared to give it. Jr. Story Do you think you can do without a local Secretary, and get subscriptions in, as at present ? Mr. Bellis: The local secretary has a great deal of influence in his own district. He had an immense advantage over an outsider, and would he likely to di better. The Chairman We are economising in the matter of management; and if the General Se- cretary cannot do the work we must find some- one else. It being felt that Mr. Beliis should have time to consider his position, the further con- sideration of this question was adjourned. MOLD AND DENBIGH. The suggestion made by the Comm ttee that the meeting of the Finance Committee should, in future, be held in the towns of Mold and Denbigh, excepting the meetings held on show days, was agreed to, on the motion of Mr. Pennant, seconded by Mr. Leathes. THE QUESTION OF BALANCES. The Chairman said that rule 15, which pro- vided that in the event of there beingabalance in hand, the Local Committee should place it, to the credit of the Rodety"; General Fund, was considered by the Sub-committee. It was said that the complaints made by the various Local Committees were mainly directed against the waste of money in connection with the manage- ment of the Society, but as the alterations sug- gested with reference to the duties aufi salary of the Secretaries, and the printing and adver- tising, tended to economy in these matters, the Committee thought, that rule 15 should stand unaltered. This was agreed to. CULTIVATED FARMS. The question of offering prizes for the best cultivated farms was discussed, but no deci- sion was arrived at, as no statement was forth coming on the financial position of the So- ciety.

DENBIGHSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL. The annual meeting of this Council was held to day (Friday), when the following members were present—Sir W. W. Wynn, Mr. J. Isgoed Jones, Sir R. E. Egerton, Messrs. W. E. Samuel, R. F. Graesser, Col- Mainwaring, W. Trevor Parkins, Hugh Holland, David Owen, T. A. WynneE iwards, A. Foulkes, J. R. Jenkins, W. Davies (Llys- fasi), Major Saxon Gregson Ellis, W. Car- stairs Jones, C. K Benson, John Harrop,. F. E. Rooper, J. R. Burton, Captain Griffith- Boscawen, W. C. Hughes, W. D. W. Griffith,f Edwin Bellis, J. W. Lumley, R. Myddleton Biddulph, T. H. Roberts, Evan Roberts, Wm. Jones, F. W. Soames, Steele L. Roberts, R. Venables Kirk, J. M. Hughes, James Sparrow, Ed. Hooson, David Roberts, Thos. Morris, Thos. Parry, John Roberts (Colwyn Bay), J. H. Darby, E. Lloyd Jones, Tnos. Ingman, Ralph Williamson, Rev. Henry Rawson Williams, John Roberts (Plas Heaton Farm), Wm. Ellis, P. E. Story, Thos. Gee, Thomas Thomas, and W. G. Dodd. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN. Sir Robert E Egerton proposed the re-elec- tion of Sir W. W. Wynne as chairman for the ensuing year. He need not say anything to recommend Sir Watkin. His work had been before the Council for the last twelve months, and he considered it satisfactory, and had given general satisfaction. Mr. A. Foulkes, in seconding the motion, endorsed the remarks made by the mover of the resolution. The motion was agreed to unanimously. The Chairman, in returning thanks, said it would be his earnest endeavour to carry out the duties in a thoroughly impartial and busini is-lil<e manner to the best of his ability (cheers). He had one request and that was, that the members of the council should carefully read over their standing orders. This was the ninth year of the existence of the Council; and there were rules in debate which must be carried out, and which the members of the Council should have a knowledge of Unless the standing orders were carried out, it would lead to the waste of time. Another suggestion which he wished to make was, that a book be kept in the room, in which the mem- bers present could record their names, thus doing away with the necessity of the clerk calling out the names. As some members of the* Council seemed to discuss the desirability of making the change suggested above by the chairman, the question was deferred. ELECTION OF VICE CHAIRMAN. Mr. Hooson proposed he re-election of Mr. Isgoed Jones as vice chairman, and expressed his sympathy with Mr. Jones in the sad be reavement which befell him and the family in the loss of his brilliant and promising son. Mr. Benson seconded the motion, and said Mr. Isgoed Jones had certainly had shown a most impartial spirit during his tenure of the Vice Chair. The motion was carried Mr. Jones, in returning thanks, said he was very much obliged for the renewed honour. His duties in the Vice Chair had been indeed very light, and Sir Watkin had acted very ini- partially indeed (hear, hear). He also thanked the Council for their kind sympathy with him in his bereavement. Mr. Jones concluded his remarks by drawing attention to the com- memoration of the Queen's reign, and said that 'ihe Council should take this matter inter con- sideration. sideration. APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEES. The Council then proceeded to the election of the different committees. The Asylum Committee was re-elected, with the exception that the name of Mr. J. R. Burton was substituted instead of that of Mr. W. G. Rigby. The other members \>'f ,ilte Committee are Colonel Mainwaring, Meters J. W. Lum- ley, Thomas Parry, Dr. J. R. Jenkins, and A. Foulkes. Mr. William Jones, Penporchell, was added to the Agricultural Committee, instead of Mr. Henry Williams, Plas-y-ward; and the follow- ing gentlemen were elected as new members:- Messrs. T. H. Roberts, Evan Roberts, David Owen, and Robert Ellis. The other committees were then appointed, the members being mostly re-elected. THE STANDING JOINT COMMITTEE. Mr Wynne Edwards ealled attention to the fact thac Denbigh was very meagrely represented on the above committee, whilst the three most in- fluential men in Wrexham were members. Last year the names of Messrs W. G. Dodd, J. W. Lumley, and John Roberts (Colwyn Bay) were eliminated from the committee,^and he wcnld now propose that these gentlemen be now elected instead of Messrs Evan Roberts, William Will- iams and Hugh Holland; also that Mr. Gee's name be placed instead of Mr. C. K. Benson. Mr. Evan Roberts seconded. Mr. Benson said he did not know why he had been singled out by his friend from Denbigh and a dead set made against him. This was the second time such an attempt had been made, and Mr. Wynne Edwards must have some motive for what he proposed to do. He should like him to give his reasons publicly and straight. Mr. S'ory said he was surprised at Mr. Benson asking for Mr. Wynne Edwards' reason. There was not a single member on rhe committee from Denbigh, whilst there were three from Wrexham. It was certainly high time to have a Denbigh re- presentative on the committee (hear hear). r. Steele Roberts failed to see why Mr. Ben- name should be selected aud he would p opose, as an amendment, that the name of fr. Benson should stand instead of Mr. Thomas Parry. On being put to the vote, 16 voted for Mr. B nsou and 23 for Mr. Parry, the latter being therefore declared elected. The Committee was then elected as follows:— Messrs. Simon Jones, Thomas Parrv, William Davies, F. W. Soames, W. E. Samuel, James Sparrow, Edward Hooson, W. G. Dodd, J W. Lumlev, John Roberts (Colwyn BaN:), Thomas Gee, and O. Isgoed Jones, and thev will represent the County Council on this Committee, (Left sitting.)

A CAREFUL PAWNBROKER. Before Messrs. Thomas Parry, and H. Lloyd Jones, on Saturday last, a young woman, named Mary Emily Edwards, of Henffordd, was charged on remand with the theft of a pair of shoes. Mrs. Jane R. Williams identified the shoes as her pro perty, and she valued them at 4s. lid. Mary Davies, a young woman in the employ of the last witness, stated that on the previous Wednesday morning she hung the boots just inside the doorway of the shop. The following morning she met the defendant in Wrexbam Street. Defendant said, I am in a bit of trouble I have taken a pair of boots from Mr. William's." She also told witness that she had taken the boots to Mr. Green, pawnbroker, who refused to take them with- out a receipt. Witness then gave iriforme, tion to her mistress. Joseph Green said that on the previous Wednesday evening defendant offered a pair of boots in pledge. He asked her who they belonged to, and she gave the name of Mrs. Mayers. He asked her if she had got a re ceipt to shew that,he had paid for the boots, and she said she would go and see. He kept the boots, and defendant came the following morning, and wanted them back. He asked her where she got the boots from, and she admitted having taken them from Mrs. Williams's. She said she bad never done such a thing before,- and was very sorry. In reply, the defendant expressed her regret for what she bad done, and promised not to offend in the future. She was fined 10s., or 7 days in default.

THE MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF A CHILD AT CILCAIN. THE INQUEST. An adjourned inquiry concerning the death of the infant male 6hild of a single woman, named Hannah Hayes, living with her parents at Cilcain, was held at the Police Station, before Mr. Richard Bromley, the Flintshire coroner, and a jury, over which Mr. Job Edwards was foreman, on Tuesday last. The Coroner observed that on the 26th February, a preliminary inquiry was held touching the death of the child and on that occasion, final evidence of identity was givep. He wished the jury to pay very close attention to the inquiry. The child was born on the 8th of February, and was buried by the father the following day. He buried it at Cilcain church- yard. There was no certificate, or any declaration of any kind. It came to the ears of the police that the thing had occurred, and they rightly thought it a proper case to be reported to him as Coroner. After hearing the report he consi- dered it a case to be inquired into; and after due consideration, he issued a warrant for the exhumation of the body, and the jury had since inspected it. There were very many questions to be considered in a case of that kind. There was the question as to whether the child was born dead or alive; and if it was born alive, how it came by its death—whether by foul means, or not. Thev would have to ascertain the cause of death if it was born alive, and the way the child was buried. It was not their place to express their verdict on this matter, but he must say that it was a very disgraceful state of affairs. Sergt. Edward Jones said, after receiving the exhumation warrant, he went to tne burial ground at Cilcain, and producer; it to the keeper, Simon Williams. He exhumed the body, and brought it to the Mold Police Station. Witness saw the body exhumed The box, or coffin, was in the ground about twelve inches, and it was covered by about three inches of soil. Robert Hayes, lead miner, Ty Ceryg, Cilcain, said he was the father of Hannah Hayes, the mother of the child. His I- 1 daughter bad been at Celyn Malley as ser- vant for about 9 or 10 months. She was previously with William Owen Thomas, The Bryn. After she left the Bryn, she came home for a month or two. He knew William Hughes, Celyn Malley. In conse- quence of what he was told, he went to Celyn Malley on the afternoon of the 8th Febru-! ary. There was no one with him. He arrived at Celyn Malley about 4 to 5 o'clock, and William Hughes was there. My damghter was upstairs in bed, and he went to see her. There were two beds in the room. He asked her bow she was, but he did not know that she had given birth to a child; he was not told'about it till he re- turned home that night. He spoke with William Hughes about his daughter, but he did not say what was the matter with her.

John Staek, who represented Nortk Kerry in Parliament from ISS5 to 1892, died rather suddenly on Friday at Tralee. Canon Heaviside, of Norwich Catuedral, died suddenly on Friday, at the age of 88. Deceased was appointed Canon in 1860. He had a brilliant university career, being second wrang. ler and Smith's prizeman in 1830. The men suifocated on board H.M.S. Hydra off Sheerness on Thursday are Alfred Edwin Jonhs and Albert James Honess. They went into the double bottom of the ship for warmth and were overcome by foul gas while asleep. A real Marquess, who has since been certified to be sane, went the other day to Trinity Church, in Paris, dressed as a van driver, wearing a blouse, and interrupted the service by clapping his hands, and cracking a whip. He was promptly turned out. RHUDDLAN.—We learn that the 15 houses situate in Castle and Cross Streets, and known as 'Pendorlan,' were sold last week by Sir W. G. Williams, of Bodelwyddan, ta Mr. Edward Davies, of 13 Castle Street.

amount will be spent. I think £80 will be quite sufficient, and I propose an amendment to that effect. Mr. Boaz Jones seconded. They should be careful with their money. He found that ;C- j 7s. was allowed the Secretary of the Jubilee Celebration. Seven guineas would go very far now, as things were very cheap indeed (laugh- ter). If £ 80 was sufficient during the Jubilee year, £ 60 would be sufficient now. Mr John Dav es agreed with Mr. Gee that both objects should he kept separately If this was not done. he was afraid the subscriptions would fall short, because some would feel in- clined to subscribe t.) one object and not to the other. He should like to see the old people fed, but these were hard times, and there were worthy objects apart from entertaining the people in the manner suggested. He should like to know from what fund the £ 100 was to be set aside? The Mayor From the general fund collected, Mr. R. H. Roberts said the question was a very pertinent one If they were going to have separate funds—one in aid of the Infirmary, and the other in aid of the School, from which of the two would be drawn the JE100 The Mayor That has not been decided yet. Mr. R. H. Reherts nut you ought to decide it now. Is it to be a per centage of the two funds ? The Mayor said he could not decide the point, unless he had some resolution before him. A vote was then taken on Mr. Hewel Gee's amendment, when 20 voted for it The ori- ginal resolution was then carried by a large majority. Mr. Thomas Gee then moved 'That in the opinion of this meeting, the Queen's Diamond Jubilee cannot be celebrated in a manner which is more consistent with the highest interests of this district, than by collecting subscriptions towards the D'nbiuhshire Infirmary and the County School.' The manner in which this could be cnrrie'' out would be the subject of another resolution. What he wanted now was, to lay these two objects together before the meeting, and secure the opinion of the present meeting as to whether these institutions were not the two o' je 's which they should support. Mr. T. J. Williams said he had also drawn out a very similar resolution to the one read by Mr. Gee, blit was a little more definite. It was as followsThat this meeting recom- minds the !)>-> diighshire Infirmary and the scheme for the erection of a new Intermediate School at Denbigh as the moat desirable objects to whr h to devote the funds raised to celebrate the 60th year of Her Majesty's Reign, leaving to thp donors, the choice of what proportion of their subscription shall be applied to each ob. ject' (applause). Mr. Thomas Gee It is virtually the same resolution as mine What I thought was that the manner in which it should be carried out might be the subject "f another resolution. Mr. T. J. Williams I have no objection to adopt Mr. Gee's motion, but I think mine puts it better (loud laughter and cheers). Mr. Gee said he would second Mr. Williams' motion, and was very glad to see him in the fore-front of the battle (hear, hear, and laugh- ter). Mr. R. H. Roberts Are you going to decide from what fund the £ 100 is to be taken ? The -ayor Have you any proposal to make an that point, Mr. Roberts? Mr. R. H. Roberts then proposed that a per- centag,, of ea-h f tiz, d should be taken to make up this amount. This was agreed to. Mr. T. A. Wynne Edwards said that both the Infirmary and the County School were ob- jects d'-serving of every support;at the same time, he thought they should bear in mind that they had met toge ther to consider the best means of celebrating Her Majesty's 60th year of Her Reign, and that they ought to decide upon Home object that would be for all time a memorial of this eventful year (applause). About SO years ago, their friends in this part of the country m t to celebrate the 50th year of King George the Third's Reign, and they did so by erecting a monument on MoelFamau, where it remained ever since as a permanent memorial. And whatever object ttic money collected, on the present occasion should be ap- plied to he claimed that it should be distinctly stated what it should be for (hear, hear). A large amount of money Nvo,,ilfl, iic.) doubt, be contributed towards the Infirmary, but he sin- cerely hoped that it would not be swallowed up in the debt of the institution (hear, hear, and cheers). If the money should be applied to the Infirei arv, it should go towards erecting a new wing, to be ca led the Jubilee Block, or some lotbei- bject, such as nursing, &c., in connec- tion with the Inhrmary. However, he was not yet convinced that either of the objects mooted at the me were the best, and he was going to make a suggestion totally different to any- thing chat had yet been mentioned. They had in Denbigh great natural advantages—they had, in the midst of the town a charming piece of ground—the Castle (loud applause). But the Castle belonged to the Government, and if it were purchased, together with the .Bowling Green, as it could be, for the use of the town, it would be, in his opinion, the most lasting memorial of Her Majesty's Diamond Jubilee they could hit upon (hear, hear). Al- though a member of the Bowling Green, he had to acniit that itjdiddonotmuchgoodto the town as at present conducted. Some time ago, he and the Town Clerk had an informal meeting with the representative of the Woods and Fo- rest Department, and that gentleman hinted to then, that the Castle and the Bowling Green could be purchased for a very small sum of money. If that was done, it would, undoubted- ly, be the most useful and lasting monument of tin- 60th year of the Queen's Reign (hear, hear).- With regard to the County School question, no one felt more deeply than him the necessity of having new school buildings; but that should be deait with from an educational point of view, and education was maintained according to the law of the land. Now, if the County Goven iflg Body made an arbitrary rule impelling the locality to subscribe £ 700 towards erecting this school, he thought that rule should be done away with. If they re- quired a school at Denbigh, it was the duty of the Central Educational Authority to find the money (hear, hear). He did not say this with the view of the erection of a school; but he contended that any money subscribed now towards such an object, would be to make up whaL should come from the rates of the county, and that was certainly not the proper way to commemorate the Queen s Diamond Jubilee (applause). He did not wish to make a proposition but he had merely thrown out a suggestion, but whatever would be ultimately decided upon, he hoped it would be connected with the great event which they intended to celebrate (applause). Mr. Harrison Jones replied that the Act did not contemplate money out of the rates for the building of schools, but for the purpose of main- taining them afterwards. The Mayor (to Mr. Wynne Edwards) Then you do not make any proposition, Mr. Ed- wards? Mr. Wynne Edwards No. Mr. E. J Swayne suggested that somebody should say a few words on behalf of the Infir- mary. Mr. Keepfe^: Is it wise for us to proceed fiii,tlit.-r ill the, face of the High Sherift's: letter? •The Mayor: That is a county matter, Mr. Gee (loud laughter. The Mayor here addressed Mr. Keepfer as Mr. Gee, hence the laughter). The Town Clerk said he had a proposition to jttake as an inhabitant of the town, to the fol- lowing effect That the wishes of Her Ma- jesty. as expressed to the Prince of Wales, should be respected, viz.: in order to com- memorate her record reign, that the movement should, as far as possible, take the form of re- the sick and poor; in the first place that three-fourths of the sum collected should ro Denbighshire Infirmary, and that the ^0lir?'h be handed over to the Den- *gh Sick Nursing Fund, or the Soup Kitchen. Jpi bo'ilkes Roberts rose to speak Tn, e Mavor Are you geing to second the Mn C'eik's motion? Ur. rAt)tilkes-Roberts: No, Sir; I have an- amendment. The Town Clerk has moved tariwd",en* in favour of the Infirmary as wusc the Grammar Sehool, whereas my amendment is in favour of the County School, as against the Infirmary (laughter). My pro- position is as follows: That a local fund be raised for the purpose of celebrating the 60th year e" Her Majesty's Reign, such fund, after setting aside £100 for the purpose already agreed upon, to be handed over to the Gover- nors of the Denbigh County School, co assist them in raising the f700 required to secure the erection of the school, and for the establish- ment of a permanent scholarship, to be called the 4 Victoria Scholarship.' Mr. Edward Mills seconded. The Rev. James Charles admitted that the Infirmary was a worthy object of support, and said that the Nonconformists had possibly not done as much as they should for it. If a strong appeal was made to them on its behalf, he had no doubt but that they would heartily respond to it, especially if they had a more direct vote in the management (hear, hear, and applause). He did not wish to say anything against the Infirmary but thought that the claims of the County School were stronger than those of the Infirmary. Mr. Wynne Edwards had just sug- gested that a new wing might be added to the Infirmary, but the school was to be built from the foundation to the roof, and its claim was certainly stronger at present (hear, hear). The question of building a school could not be de- layed much longer—the f,700 must be secured, or the grant of £1,200 would be lost (cheers). If he understood the Act right, the Govern- ment would compel them to build, and the pre- sent building was only sanctioned by the Com- missioners as temporary premises. Therefore, it was of the greatest importance to proceed with the work at once and if the two objects -the Infirmary and the School- were to be kept together, a very good collection would be the result (cheers) Mr E. J Swayne also thought that if both objects were kept together, they would gain thereby. If they were run antagonistic to one another, they would certainly lose. He advo- cated the claims of both institutions-those of the Infirmary were not less urgent than those of the Intermediate School (cheers). The differ- ence waR this: the School wanted about 9800, whereas the Infirmary required £ 8,000—that is, a sufficient sum to guarantee against the defici- ency of C300 or £ 400 in the annual subscrip- tions. But for the special effort made a short time ago, when £ 600 was realised in contribu- tions, the institution would now be labouring under a debt of £ 1,200, and not 9500 (cheers). The authorities of the Infirmary were anxious to wipe off this debt, and then to increase the subscriptions sufficiently to carry on the in- stitution in a satisfactory way, and, if possible, to establish there a number of new free beds (applause). The claim of the Infirmary ap- pealed to a much wider area than the School. The latter only affected Denbigh and the im- mediate neighbourhood, whereas the Infirmary appealed to'the whole county, and parts of the counties of Flint and Merioneth (cheers). Both schemes, however, were worthy of support; and he sincerely hoped that they weuld be run in harmo. y, and not antagonistic to one an other (hear, hear). Mr. John Davies thought it better to keep the schemes distinct. He, therefore, supported the original resolution, which meant a separate fund for each institution. Mr. Swayne said his suggestion was, that persons contributing should be allowed to state to what fund their money should be ap- plied. In that way, both schemes eould be laid before the public. Mr William Parry (Clwyd Villas) asked whether there was any probability of getting near the sum of £ 8,000 required by the Infir- mary authorities? That was an important question to consider. Moreover, some of the funds collected would be applied towards li- quidating the debt on the Infirmary; and he questioned very much whether that came legi- timately within the object they had now in view—commemorating the Queen's Reign. After considerable discussion, Mr. John Davies suggested that the meeting be adjourned, so as to enable gentlemen in- terested in the question to attend. If the meet- ing had been convened fer an earlier hour of the day, several persons who were absent would have been present. The Mayor said public meetings of this nature were always convened at 8 o'clock: and that was his reason for calling the present meeting at the same hour. Mr. Davies' suggestion found no support. Mr. R. H. Roberts thought it would be well to adopt the suggestion made by the High Sheriff-to appoint a deputation to attend the county meeting. Mr. Thomas Gee strongly objecbed to any further delay and said that the question had been thrashed ont very well. The claims of the Infirmary and the County School evidently found support, and the authorities of these two institutions could themselves appoint a deputa- tion to the county meeting, as suggested by the High Sheriff. The motion of Mr. T. J. Williams was then put to the meeting, and carried unanimously. It was then decided to form a committee to carry out the resolutions, and over 40 gentle- I men were nominated it being also understood that the Infirmary Committee and the Inter- mediate School Governors would also appoint six each to serve on this committee. Mr. J. Parry Jones (Town Clerk) was elected Hon. Sec., and Mr. E. Parry (the Town Clerk's Deputy) was elected Paid Secretary. A vote of thanks to the Mayor brought the meeting to a conclusion.

After he returned home, he did not go back to Celyn Malley that night. William Hughes was in his house when he got home, but he did not remain there for about ten minutes afterwards. He did not teil witness, but told witness's wife what had happened. He did not ask William Hughes why he did not tell him about it when he was at his house. On the following Tuesday, he went to Celyn Malley about six o'clock. William Hughes was there, and his daughter was in bed. He asked where the child was, and she said, It is lapped up on a piece of board under the bed." He looked for the child, and found it lapped up in an apron and a piece ef flannel. The head was wrapped up, one part of the face was to be seen There was a small black spot on the side of its head. William Hughes and myself made the box. I y Witness put the body in the box He took it to the churchyal d at about 8 o'clock. The sexton dug the grave while he was there. He gave him a shilling. He did not give the sexton any kind of paper. He told the sexton previously that his daughter had given birth to a still born child. Since Williams toid him that "there was nothing for it, but to bury it like any other child." Ann Hayes said that she was sent for on Tuesday, the 9th February. She went up to Celyn Malley, and found that her sister Jane had been there before her. She spoke to her sister Hannah who was in bed. She told witness to look under the bed. She did so, and found the baby wrapped up in an old frock, and put on a board. She unwrapped it, and put it back again. She did not see any marks of violence upon it, but she thought its ears, and a part of its face, was getting black. Witness told her father and William Hughes, that they ought to see a doctor before burying the child. William Hughes said that it was no business of his, and he would not interfere, it was the father's business. About 8 o'clock that evening her father returned, and said he had buried the baby. William Hughes, Celyn Malley, said that Hannah Heyes had complained to him about being unwell. He went to see Dr. Edwards who told him that he did not know what was the matter with her. He had been several times to the surgery for bottles of medicine for her. There were two rooms in his house in the principal of which Hannah Hayes and his children slept, and in the other he slept by himself. Witness was asked why he did not sleep with his children, and allow Hannah Hayes to sleep in the other room ? Witness replied that he did not like to put anyone in that room, he preferred going there himself. On the night of the 7th February, Hannah Hayes complained to him that she was in pain. He called out to her, and asked what was the matter, and she said she was griped very much. Witness replied that he thought there was something more serious the matter with her, meaning that it was dropsy. He went to his work a little before six, and told his boy to fetch a shil- ling's worth of brandy. When witness returned from his work at about 3 o'clock in the afternoon, Hannah Hayes told him that she bad given birth to a child, and that the father of it was William Owen Thou as. W. H. Hughes, son of last witness age 11, corroborated the statement of his father. After a searching examination by Mr Marston, he said that his father slept in the same room as Hannah Hayes, and had done so since Christ- mas. There weie several holes in the roof of the other rcjof, through which rain came On the morning in question, he heard groaning after his father left. His brother called out that there was some noise in the house. He had never heard the noise before. About nine o'clock he went to the village, and his brother got the whiskey, and he took it home for Hannah Hayes. John Hughes, age 10, stated that his father always slept in the same room as themselves and Hannah Hayes. He could not sleep in the other room because there were several holes in the roof. Jane Hayes said she attended her sister on the same day, but the child was dead. At this point the court adjourned till the fol- lowing Thursday, after being sitting since 11 o'clock in the morning till 5.30. The adjourned inquest was held at the Police Station, on Thursday, at 3 15, before Mr. Brom- ley (coroner). Mr. J. ll. Marston watched the case on behalf of Mr. W. O. Thomas, and Mr. G. H. Simon appeared in the interest of Han- nah Hayes. John Hughes, the boy who gave evidence at the last inquiry, was called. He said that he said something with regard to his father having slept in the same bedroom as Hannah Hayes. He was frightened when he made that state- ment, and it was untrue. Supt. .1. Ivor Davies gave evidence. He stated that the boy had been tampered with. He heard Ann Hayes telling the boy that if he said a word about that, she 'would give it him;' and after the boy had given his evidence, she again threatened him. W. O. Thomas also corroborated the threats of Ann Hayes toward the boy. P. C. W. Williams, Rhydymwyn, described the house where the child was born. He said that there were four holes in the roof of the small bedroom in which W. Hughes said he had slept. There were bed clothes on the small bed in the room, which were damp, but he would not say that they were wet. Under the bed where Hannay Hayes had slept were large blood stains. Dr. David Edwards, Mold, said he made a post mortem examination of the body. It was a healthy full grown child 7 lbs. in weight, and 20 inches in length. There were no outward marks of violence. He opened the breast, and found that the lungs nearly covered the heart. He was of opinion that the child had had a separate existence, it had most probably suffocated for the want, of attendance. With regard to William Hughes, witness told him that Hannah Hayes was enciente, and he replied that it was untrue. Witness had also told Hannah Hayes the same thing, and she stoutly denied it. He went up to the place after the chJd had been born, and Hannah Hayes told him that it was stillborn, and had never cried. As nothing was said then, he heard no more about it. Ann Hayes was called. She admitted having warned the children not tell lies, but they had told lies, and fearful ones too, for she knew that William Hughes did not sleep in the same room as her sister. The Coroner reviewed the whole of the cir- cumstances, and said that in his opinion the child died for the want of attention, whick could not be gien under the circumstances. A verdict in accordance with the Coroner's remarks was returned. The Coroner has decided to send the whole of the evidence to the Home Office.