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HOUSE OF COMMONS. TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH. Mr. Balfour, replying to Major Rasch, said it would not be consistent with the scope of the Voluntary Schools Bill to enlarge it by in- cluding clause 24 of the Education Bill of last session. Answering Mr. P. O'Brien, Mr. Balfour said he could not hold out any hope that the Gov- ernment would make it obligatory on the new Financial Relations Commission to inquire into the amounts expended in England, Ireland, and Scotland respectively of the sums voted for purposes common to the United Kingdom. In reply to Mr. Dillon, Mr. Balfour said he could not interrupt the Committee stage of the Education Bill for a lengthened discussion on the Irish Land Bill. Whether the Committee stage would be finished on the 10th of March he could not Bay, but if it went on from day to day the 10th of March would be the eighth day of the discussion, and he should have thought that in eight days so short a bill could easily have been disposed of. Mr. Stevenson asked the Under Foreign Secretary, in view of the fact that the Powers made arrangements to prevent an attack upon Canea, what steps they took to prevent a sally of the Turkish troops from the town for the purpose of attacking the Cretan position. Mr. Curzon replied that the Government had received no official information of any sally of the Turkish troops from Canea. In answer to another question, Mr. Curzon said the Government did not know who gave the signal for the bombardment of the Cretan position. The course of procedure was ar- ranged between the admirals of the inter- national squadron, and presumably the senior naval officer, who was the Italian admiral, gave the signal. Sir W. Harcourt, on behalf of Sir H. Camp- bell-Bannerman, asked the First Lord of the Treasury whether he could lay on the table the instructions given to the British admiral in Cretan waters. Mr. Balfour said it would not be possible in existing circumstances, It had never been the practice, so far as he knew, to make public the instructions to naval or military officers on active service, and the inexpediency of such a course would be greatly augmented in the present case owing to the fact that the Govern- ment were acting in concert with other Powers. Mr. Darling asked Mr. Curzon if his atten- tion had been called to the speech made by M. Hanotaux in the French Chamber on the previous day, and whether it actually was proposed by England at bhe end of 1895 that the Dardanelles should be forced, and the man responsible for the massacres seized in his palace. Mr. Curzon replied in the negative. Mr. Darling asked which was the Power referred to. Mr. Curzon replied that it was no part of his duty to answer for any foreign Powers. In answer to Sir E. A. Bartlett, Mr. Curzon said there had been no confirmation of the alleged massacre of 1,100 Mussulmans at Sitia, and the British Consul reported on the 19th that the fate of the Mussulmans of one village only in that district remained unknown. Mr. Curzon also read two telegrams from Sir A. Billiotti giving a description of the position in the Selinos district, where a fight of extermi- nation was carried on between the two sects, and about 2,000 Mussulmans were in a very critical position. Whether anything would be done to rescue them was a matter for agree- ment between the Powers, Answering Mr. T. G. Bowles, who asked whether the Government had received any information as to the conduct the Turkish Government intended to adopt as towards neutral ships during the state of war now existing between Turkey and Greece, Mr. Curzon said there was no indication that the Turkish Government were intending to take any hostile measures at sea, and as the Turk- ish representative remained at Athens and the Greek representative at Constantinople it could not be said that a state of war now existed. Mr. Atherley Jones moved that an address should be presented to the Queen praying her to appoint a Royal Commission to inquire into the administration of justice under the Judi- cature Acts, with a view to secure greater efficiency and economy. He contended that the administration of justice in this country was neither expeditious nor economical. ft was, with the exception of the French system, the most extravagant in the world, and there was no parallel in the civilised world for the Long Vacation. The greatest scandal, per- haps, was the present circuit system. Mr. Warr seconded the motion. The Attorney General; in reply, said he entirely concurred with the mover of the reso- lution as to the necessity for improvements, but he was of opinion that a Royal Commission was about the worst body to which the subject could be remitted, not only because the effect would be to hold up the question for years, but because, so far as the administration of the law was concerned, he did not think any practical results had come from Royal Com- missions in the past. To make the jurisdiction of the county courts coextensive with that of the superior courts would be to put an end to the practical utility of the county courts. He admitted that at times there must be a waste of judicial strength in connection with the cir- cuit syctem, but the fact was that the system was ingrained, and he thought, ought to be maintained in connection with our system in judicature. Lancashire was benefiting largely from the existence of the system, for under it the judges went there more frequently than to other parts of the kingdom, while at the same time causes were tried by High Court judges with a direct appeal to the Court of Appeal, and he could not but think that by a possible development of that system they might be likely to satisfy bhe demands of other commer- cial centres. Mr. Atherly Jones subsequently expressed himself satisfied with the tone of the discus- sion, and withdrew his motion. Mr. Lloyd Morgan then called attention to the serious effects of the long period of agri- cultural depression so far as it affected peasant freeholders in Wales, and moved a resolution in favour of the granting of State loans at a low rate of interest to sach of the peasant and small occupying freeholders of Wales as purchased their own holdings with money borrowed on the security of their land to enabie them to redeem existing mortgages in respecb 0: which a higher rate of interest was payable than such freeholders were able to pay in the present state of agriculture. Mr. Rees Da "ies seconded the motion, which was supported by Mr. Milbank, Mr. Vaughan Davies, Mr. Bryn Roberts, General Laurie, Mr. Thomas Ellis, Mr Ellis Griffith, Major Wyndham Quin, and Mr. Herbert Roberts, Mr. Tuaor Howell being the only one of the Welsh m-mbers who spoke and voted against the resolution. Ir. Loi g, on of the Government, asked the House to reject the motion, not because they had no sympathy with those who moved it or those whose interests were con- cerned, but because it would be impossible to limit the operation of the principle to Wales, and its general adoption would entail a gigan- tic liability upon the State. After some debate, in which the motion was supported by Conservative members, a division was taken, when the resolution was defeated by 102 votes to 43. The House was afterwards counted out.



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