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lations in their affliction, and that a copy of the resolution be entered in the minute book of thegCorporation, and a copy for- warded to the widow.' Mr. E. T Jones, in seconding the motion, said he quite endorse* f the remarks of the Mayor The town had undoubtedly sustained a great loss in the death of Mr. Andrews. The motion was unanimously agreed to. o The Mayor said he called with Mrs. Andrews in the morning to consult her wishes as regards the funeral. The funeral would be a public one, and the Corporation would attend in their official capacities. THE HEALTH OF THE BOROUGH. The Medical Officer reported that he had nothing of importance to relate. The death rate had been rather a heavy one, owing to the very unclement weather recently experienced, and which had given rise to a good many cases of diseases of the respiratory organs amongst children and adults. Fifteen deaths had been registered during the month, two of which oc- cured at the Infirmary. Seven deaths were re- ported from the Asylum. For the same period 9 births had been registered, 5 males and 4 females. The labove numbers give as the annual birth and death rates per thousand 16.55 and 27.58 respectively. SMITHFIELD RECEIPTS. The Accountant reported that the receipts at the last fair in the Smithfield amounted to i-'6 8s. 4d., a dec re t se of £ 4 9s. 8d. on the Feb- ruary fair last year. ERRIVIAT ROAD. The Borough Surveyor reported on the al- terations carried out on a spot above Tyn-y- gors, on the Erriviat Road, and said that to pipe the whole length of the ditch would cost about £ 38, whereas a retaining wall could be erected for £ 22. On the motion of Mr. Boaz Jones, seconded by Mr. Wynne Edwards the matter was re- ferred to the Highway Committee. STONE FROM SEGRWYD QUARRY. The Surveyor applied for permission to put 40 leads of stone from Segrwyd Quarry on the Asylum road when required. The stone was much harder than the quality now employed and couM be delivered as cheap. The application was granted. THE METTALING QUESTION AGAIN. GWYDDKLWERN versus GRAIG STONE. The Surveyor in his report, stated that it was impossible to keep the portion of the Mold road from the railway bridge to the turning of the coal yard in good order with the quality of stone he now got for the purpose. The tra- ffic was exceedingly heavy, and the stones were continually been used up in a very short time. He would therefore advice the Council to pro- cure a trunk load of Gwyddelwern stone to be tried as an exper ment on this spot. Mr. Hughes Is this the spot where Penmaen- mawr stone was put some years ago? The Suerveyer: Yes. Mr. Wynne Edwards: I should like to ask the surveyor how many loads of stone were carted tp the main streets during the season, and how many loads of mud were carted away during last week? (laughter). The Surveyor: About 60 loads of stone were putfdown on High Street during the season, and the sweepings, &c., last week were 6 loads, or 16 loads during the season. In Vale Street, 200 loads were put down sweepings carted last week 15 loads, or during the season 45 loads. Mr. Wynne Edwards: Therefore one tenth of the metal put on High Street during the sea- son was carted away in one week. The Surveyor Of course there were more loads of sweepings carted away last week than for some time past, and it would not be fair to take last week alone for the purpose of com- parison Mr E. T. Jones; Was that after the thaw ? The Surveyor: Yes. Mr. Roger Pryce said he understood from a discussion that had previously taken place on the matter, there was a certain quality of stone in the Graig Quarry much harder than the one used now, and that this could be had by paying more money for it. He should like to ask the surveyor could he have a supply at the Graig of the stone he required ? Mr. Wynne Edwards: I should like to supple- ment Mr. Pryce's question with another. Can the surveyor get any stone at all there ? The Surveyor replied that he had ordered about 250 ton's of the black stone, to be ready by. the beginning of the season, and he only got about 150. He was also told that he could get no more because there was too much work to get at that quality of stone. In reply to a further question of Mr. Wynne Edwards The Surveyor said that even the day before, he had to stop the carts during the morning, because there were no stones to be had at the Graig. They paid 2s. 2d. per ton for the ordin- ary stone and 2s. lid. for the black. Mr. J. T. Hughes asked what was the quota- tion received for the Gwyddelwern stone ? The Surveyor: 5s. 9d. per ton, delivered in Denbigh. Mr. Robert Owen Already broken ? The Surveyor Yes. Mr. R. H. Roberts said that in the Union of Ruthin, they paid 4s. for the Gwyddelwern stone unbroken and 5s. lOd. broken, Mr. T. J. Williams: What kind of stone do you consider this, Mr. Roberts ? Mr. R. H. Roberts Splendid, sir; it is quite equal to Penmaenma.wr. Mr. Williams Then I propose that we have a sample of it. Mr. Wynne Edwards asked whether one truckful would be any good as an experiment ? He was afraid it would be simply covered with mud from the other portions ot the road. Mr. R, H. Roberts: Are you going to put the stones down about an inch apart ? (laugh- ter). The Surveyor said it was rather late in the weason to put a thick coat on the roads. Mr. Griffiths said they had too much sowing of stones lately. To put them down in that way was no good, and besides it was most dan- gerous for traffic. Mr. J. T. Hughes asked the surveyor whether if a sample of the black stone was required from the Graig Quarry now, could it be sup- plied? The Surveyor replied that he did not make any inquiries after being told that there were none to be had. Mr. J. T. Hughes said it would be rather un- fair to jump into any other quarry for the pur- pose of procuring stones without first making inquiries as to whether the black stone could be had at Graig. He would propose that the surveyor be instructed to apply to Mr. David Jones before moving further in the matter. Mr. Roger Pryce seconded. Mr. Wynne Edwards said he would propose as an amendment that two trucks of the Gwyddelwern stone be purchased, one to be used in the bottom of the town and the other on High Street. Mr. Roger Pryce said that an experiment ought to be made with the Graig stone (black quality) and that it be broken with a hammer, and not crushed with a machine. Mr. J. T. Hughes said that if the Council were determined to have the Gwyddelwern 'Stone, that a similar quantity of the Graig Black Stone be also tried. Mr. Lloyd Jones supported this suggestion. After further discussion, it was agreed that two trucks of each stone—the Gwyddelwern and Graig—be purchased, withta view of ascer- taining which of the two would be best. THE RE-NUMBERING OF THE HOUSES. It was explained that the occupiers of houses were obliged to buy the new numbers proposed to be put on their houses, and to fix the same to their doors. Mr. Griffith questioned whether this was so, and the Town clerk replied that he had looked into the matter, and found that the occupier of each house was compelled in law to fix a num- ber to his residence; if he failed to do so, the surveyor was entitled to do the work, and charge the occupier with the outlay. THE INDIAN FAMINE FUND. The Town Clerk read communications from the Lord Mayor of London and the Lord ,1 Leutenant of the County (Colonel West) with reference to the Indian Famine Relief Fund, suggesting that some effort ought to be made in the town to support the movement in favour of the famine stricken districts. Mr. Boaz Jones said that the opening of a fund was, in his opinion, a very proper thing to do. The people of Denbigh were very much behind other places in this matter, and he thought it high time to consider the condition of their fellow subjects in that part of the world. There had been no local object calling for their help recently, and he would propose that a subscription fund be opened at once at the bank. The Mayor: To which fund would you pro pose us to subscribe ? Mr. Boaz Jones: To the Lord Lieutenant's Fund. Mr. Tumour thought that the rector and ministers of all Denominations should devote one Sunday to collect for this Famine Fund. He was of opinion that more money would be received in this way than by opening a Sub- scription list at the banks, and he would pro- pose that the rector and ministers be asked to arrange such a collection The Mayor: There are great many people that do not go to church or chapel, Mr. Tur- nour. Mr. Turnour: Yes, but there are a great many also that never go to a bank. Mr. Wynne Edwards proposed that the col- lection suggested by Mr. Turnour be made in addition to the fund proposed to be opened at the banks. This was agreed to. RATES. The Mayor said the next business was to in- struct the Town Clerk to prepare estimates for a General District Rate, and a Borough Rate for the half year ending the 29th September next, and a Cemetery Rate for the year ending 25th March, 1898. The Town Clerk said that at the October meeting of the Council it was resolved that the question of paving Chapel Street, Crown Lane and Henllan Place should stand over until March, when the half yearly estimates were to be prepared. He should like to know whether it was intended to carry out this work, so that he could include the amounts required in the estimates. Mr. J. T. Hughes said he would certainly pro- pose that the paving of Lon Bach by Mr. Lloyd Jones' tanyard be proceeded with. Mr. Wynne Edwards seconded, and said that the Council should do all in their power to di- vert the traffic of the country from the main street along the road in question. Mr. Howel Gee protested against the paving of Chapel Street. Tha motion of Mr. Hughes was then carried, and the two other lanes were excluded. THE WIDENING OF LON LLEWELYN Mr. Wynne Edwards moved that having re- gard to the heavy wear to the streets of the town which will be caused by the eartage of materials to the Asylum buildings, the Council do forthwith proceed to widen and improve I p that part of Lon Llewelyn which lies between the Smithfield Road and the top of Love Lane. He said that his object in making this propos- ition was, that he considered they should do all they could to divert the heavy traffic from off their main streets, and sooner or later, they would have to widen Lon Llewelyn. It was one of the nicest and most convenient lanes in the town, and the sooner it was widened the better it would be. There could be no doubt that the haulage up the Smithfield road and along the lane was much lighter than up Love Lane, and when the work at the Asylum com- menced, he thought they should give the con- tractor to understand, that if he carted his materials that way, they should make no claim against him for extraordinary traffic. He thought that the Council had a right to claim compensation for extraordinary traffic, but it would be most unwise for them to do so in this case. It had been suggested, and a very good suggestion it was, that the end of Lon Llewelyn should be so diverted as to come out at Love Lane opposite the road leading to the Castle. He believed Mr. Alderman T. J. Williams felt very strongly on that point. If the work was carried out, it would be a great improvement, and if this suggestion could be included in the motion, he would have no objection. Thou- sands of tons of material would have to be carted to the Asylum during the next few years. Stone were not likely to be taken along Lon Llewelyn, but millions of bricks would no doubt be carted that way if his mo- tion was adopted. Unless the road was wi- dened, he was afraid that all the haulage would have to be done along the streets of the town. They had the land for the purpose of widening, and all required to be done was to build a wall. The Mayor said this was a very important matter, and on that account, ought to be dis- cussed in committee first. The owners of the land, no doubt, would have something to say in the matter Mr. Howel Gee Has the road been adopted by us ? The Town Clerk No. Mr. Wynne Edwards said that in reply to Mr. Gee's question, he would remind them of a statement made in the Council some time ago that those roads which were considered high- ways before the year 1835, should be repaired by the Council, and if anybody chose to come forward and demand the repair of Lon Llew- elyn, they as a Council would be compelled to do it. Mr. T. J, Williams said he agreed with Mr. Wynne Edwards in fact, the principle con- tained in the resolution had been practically adopted by the Council when lthe Smithfield was in course of erection. He remembered very well, when a discussion arose as to the placing of a gate at the top of the Smithfield road, he made a proposition that the gate be so fixed as to bring it to a level with the proposed widen- ing of the road. The Council unanimously agreed to this course, so that the suggestion now made had already been adopted. Great complaints were already made that the lane was too narrow; and he was strongly of opin- ion that they should proceed to widen it with- out further delay. He had drawn out, a pro- position bearing OR the subject which differed a little from Mr. Edwards' motion. It was as follows. That Lon Llewelyn be widened from the top gate of the Smithfield to a point about 15 yards below the footpath at Glas Meadows, and that the road be diverted from the said point to the gate at the top of Love Lane opposite the turning to the Castle, and that a committee be appointed to negotiate with the owners of the adjoining property with a view of exchanging land, and to arrange other matters; and that this Committee shall report to a Special Meeting of the Council.' That was the resolution he intended to move. Several members of the Council, he understood, had visited this point, and they all agreed that the work ought to be carried ought. He was of opinion that whatever expense they went into in widening the road would be recouped by the money they would receive for the land, which would, ne doubt, be purchased for build- ing purposes. Mr. Wynne Edwards said he would have no objection to adopt Mr. Williams resolution. Mr. Howel Gee said. he had no objection to carry out the work, but was anxious, first of all, to know their position in the matter. As at far as he was aware, the Council had not yet adopted the road in question although Mr. Wynne Edwards had dropped a remark that the Council were bound to keep this road in repair. If that was so, he should like to hear the Town Clerk's view on the matter. If Mr. Wynne Edwards was correct, they might as well adopt the whole of the roads in the Borough, and face their responsibility at once. He was quite willing to admit that the proposal of Mr.Wynne Ed wards, or the amended resolution of Mr. T. J. Williams, were each worthy of considera- tion. The Town Clerk replied that the road in question had never been adopted by the Coun- cil but if it was intended to do so, he would suggest that the owners of the adjoining land be approached with a view of contributing to the expense. He thought the improvement would be as much to their advantage as the Corporation. Mr. Wynne Edwards asked whether it was net; the fact that a road which was a highway before 1835 was to be repaired by-the Council as the Highway Authority ? The Town Clerk Yes, that is so. Mr. Wynne Edwards said there was no ques- tion about this road. It was certainly a high- way before 1835, and they were obliged to keep it in repair. He had a map in bis possession which proved it to be a highway. Mr. Griffiths contended that the, Council had no proof that the road was at present, or ever had been, a highway. The fact of its being on the map proved nothing. Mr. J. T. Hughes was of opinion that this proposition ought to be by all means supported. Their cattle market was situated very close to the lane, and it would mean a great conven- ience to those that had business at the Smith- field if the road was widened. It should be at least sixteen feeb wide, so that carts might pass each other. They should certainly do all they could to make the Smithfield a success, to pay for itself, and to meet the requirements of the I different localities. At present, however, farmers suffered a great deal of inconvenience in driving their catte through the lane, and whether the road w as adopted or not; he thought they should always bear in mind their cattle market. Unless this was done, the green grass would grow on the spot ('Oh !'). Mr. Boaz Jones agreed with Mr. Wynne Edwards. Mr. Howel Gee said that if the road was going to be widened, he would suggest that they, in Denbigh, should adopt the same course as other Corporations did, and that was to force the landowners in the district to contri- bute ('Oh!' and laughter). Other people did it—other Corporations forced the landowners to drain their land before allowing any build- ings to be erected upon it. Mr. Griffith: My! We shall require an Act of Parliament to do it. Mr. Gee still contended that if Lon Llewelyn was going to be made a street, the Council should make the owners of land in the sur rounding district to contribute largely towards any expense incurred in repairing the road. Mr. J. T. Hughes: We cannot compel or force anybody in this matter. • Mr. Griffith said it was evident Mr. Gee had got hold of a mare's nest (laughter). He re- ferred, no doubt, to cases where new streets were made under special Acts of Parliament and bye-laws. It did not apply to a case of the widening of a road at all. Mr. Gee: But this will be a new street as well. It was then decided to hold a Special Meet- ing of the Council on Thursday, to further consider the matter. THE CASE OF THE CORPORATION WORKMEN. MR. ROGER PRYCE ON SLAVERY.' Mr. Roger Pryce moved, 'That, in future, the men employed by the Corporation be allowed to leave off work at one o'clock on Saturdays.' He said that he had taken a little trouble to ascertain at what time the workmen of other Corporations left off work and he had received letters from Carnarvon, Llandudno, Rhyl, &c. At Rhyl, they were allowed to leave off at half-past twelve on one Saturday, but worked for the next Saturday afternoon. They were paid at the rate of 19s. per week; and for every Saturday aftellloon they worked, they were allowed Is. 7d. extra, bringing their wages for that particular week to Cl 7d. Of course, he quite admitted that men should be kept on the roads on Saturday afternoons but it could be easily arranged for the men to do this in rotation. At Carnarvon, the workmen were paid wages ranging trom 24s. to 18s.; and they left off work at one o'clock every Satur- day throughout the year. He thought Denbigh should be to the fore in this matter, and not behind the places he had mentioned. The re- plies which he had received from Wrexham were somewhat similar. He thought that, at the end of the 19th century, they should treat their employees as men, and notaselaves ('Ohl" and laughter). All the principal works in the town, with very few exceptions, had taken this lead. The Graig Quarry, and other places which lie might mention, allowed their men to leave off work at one o'clock on Saturdays. His motion was a very reasonable one; and he hoped that the Council would meet the men, 1 especially as they were paid so little in com- parison with Oiher Boroughs. Mr. E A. Tumour said he would second the motion, and had great pleasure in doing so. He thought that the men should have half a day off on Saturday afternoon, although he could not agree with Mr. Pryce's remark that they were treated as slaves. He was not aware that the men had .been treated as slaves. However, he was very happy to second the resolution. Mr. Wynne Edwards said he would support the motion on condition that the Borough Sur- veyor be allowed to make arrangement for the sweeping work to be done as usual on Saturday afternoon.s Mr. Boaz Jones thought the question should be considered by the Highway Committee, and proposed an amendment to this effect. Mr. T. J. Williams asked how many men were employed on the roads? The Surveyor Three in summer, and four in winter. Mr. Williams: Including the carter? The Surveyor: No, five including the carter. Mr. Williams said he would be sorry to think that the men were made slaves, as suggested by Mr. Pryce and he doubted very much whether he (Mr. Pryce) was justified in making such a remark. He would suggest that the men should have a holiday on another day. It was very important that the town should be kept clean for Sunday and to take their holiday on an- other day, would make but very little difference to the men. Mr. Roger Pryce said he was very much sur- prised to see Mr. Williams and Mr. Boaz Jones getting up and speak in the way they had done. He had already admitted that some of the men should be kept at work onl Saturday after- noons, and be paid for it. The motion, if car- ried, only meant a reduction of two hands, because the men now worked without their dinner until three o'clock. And to stand up againstallowiog them to have apaltrytwohands was indeed a cause of much surprise to him. Moreover, he considered that this question should be dealt with in the Council meeting, and not to be I back-slided' to a Committee (laughter). On being put to the meeting, eight voted in favour of Mr. Boaz Jones' amendment, and it was carried. Mr. Pryce: We shall have another half- holiday just now, THE QUEEN'S L>T vMOND JUBILEE. The Mayor said it was his intention to call a public meeting to consider the best way to cele- brate the 50th year of Her Majesty's Reign (applause). He should like to know whether the Council wished to fix a day for holding such a meeting, or whether he should do it. It was decided to leave the matter in the Mayor's hands. THE MAYOR'S WIT. The Town Clerk read a communication he had received from the Municipal Corporation's Society, with reference to a question of mem- bership. Several members at the other end of the table were, at, this time, keenly discussing another matter; and on being called to order by the Mayor, asked what was going on. The Mayor There is a dinner to be held in London by the Municipal Corporation's Society. The Town Clerk and myself are now invited to attend, fche Council, of course, to pay our expenses (' Oh Oh and loud laughter). The Mayor then put matters right by explain- ing the contents of the letter, and the subject dropped. MERRY-GO-ROUNDS. Mr. Collins, of Chester, applied for the use of the Horse Market in the Smithfield from the 23rd to the 31st of March, to fix up his show, and it was granted on the same terms as before, viz., fl per week. MESSRS. CLOUGH & CO.'S AUCTION YARD. A letter was read from Messrs. Clough and Co. with reference to the charges in connection with their auction sales at the Smithfield. Cus- tomers were now obliged to pay 3d. per head for entering their beasts, and another Id. for placing them under the covered shed. They contended that these terms militated to a con- siderable degree against the success of the Smithfield. It was decided to discontinue the charging of the Id. from the 1st of March. THE EVIL EFFECTS OF HOLDING WATCHNIGHTS. A latter was read from Mr. John Davies, on behalf of the Wesleyan Cause, asking the Coun- cil to remit the fee charged (£1 3s. 6d.) for the use of the Assembly Rooms to hold a Watch- night on the 31st of December last. The expenses, he said, were very heavy; and as the object of the entertainment was to assist the cause, he hoped the fee would be remitted. Mr. Humphreys Roberts proposed that it be reduced to 2s. 6d.—fche sum charged for the gas alone. Mr. Robert Owen said lie could not agree with this, and that he disapproved of holding such an entertainment so late at night. It gave young people an opporiunity of being about the streets in the night, and that made no good to the town. He thought the practice of hold- ing these entertainments should be put down. If members of the Council had witnessed the state of the streets that night, they would be ashamed of Denbigh. Mr. Humphreys Roberts: Do you hold the Wesleyans responsible for this? Mr. R. Owen replied that he did not blame the Wesleyans at all. He simply condemned the practice of holding these entertainments. Mr. Humphreys Roberts said the young people were better off in the meeting than on the streets. The Mayor said he was present at the enter- tainment, and found it very interesting. The motion was then carried.