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BOARD OF G^TARDI A.NS. THE BEER QUESTION AGAIN. FRIDAY.-Present: Messrs Edwin Morgan (chairman), John Williams (vice-chairman), Ellis Williams, Gwilym Parry, Joseph Ro- berts, Denbigh; Thomas Lloyd, Morris Jones, Llansannan J. D. Jones, St. George; A. Foulkes, John Vaughan, Abergele Wm. Jones, Llannefydd; Joseph Lloyd, John Williams, Cefn Thomas Lloyd, Henllan; Robert Morris, W. Conway Bell, Rhuddlan T. Howes Roberts, Miss Bennett, St. Asaph: Messrs. Thomas Morgan, Cwm; Thomas Ellis, Meliden John Williams, Pydew, Dyserth Messrs. W. Wynne, Jacob Jones, P. Mostyn Williams, Mrs. Jane Roberts, Mrs. Mary Jones, Rhyl; Rev. J. Adams, Tremeirchion, and Mr. Charles Grimsley, clerk. THE HOUSE. The Master reported the number of pau- pers in the House last Board-day to be 121; admitted since, 11; discharged, 4; remain- ing in the House this day, 128-an increase of 11 on the corresponding date last year. Vagrants relieved during the past fort- night, 55; during the corresponding period last year, 91-a decrease of 36. INDISPOSED OFFICIALS. It was further reported that the matron and nurse were ill, several Guardians expres- sing sorrow that such was the case. The Chairman asked if they were able to get on with the work in the House in the absence of the matron and the nurse. The Master said they were doing the best they could, but it was very hard work. REMOVAL OF PAUPERS TO THE ASYLUM. During the reading of the master's report it transpired that an imbecile pauper had been sent to the Denbigh Asylum. Mr. Abel Foulkes asked if it was neces- sary to remove the patient from the House. The Asylum officials were complaining that that establishment was sadly overcrowded. The Chairman The question is, was he violent. The Master said they might take it for granted that such cases were not removed without mature cons*de atio they never took steps of this sort unless they were bound to. In the present case the patient had caused him considerableanxiety during the past three weeks, and they bad no staff there to deal with violent cases. The patient had been seen by the medical officer and a magistrate, before his removal was decided upon. Mr. Foulkes expressed his entire satisfac- tion with the master's reply. ADDITIONAL COMFORTS FOR INVALID PAUPERS. The Master stated that easy chairs had been bought by Mr. Roberts, Rhyl, from Messrs. Rhydwen Jones and Davies, of that town, for use in the sick ward. They had been purchased out of the balance of the money subscribed by a few friends for the purchase of an invalid carriage some time ago. Miss Bennett had also sent in a wicker invalid chair for the sick ward. On the motion of the Chairman a vote of thanks was heartily passed to these kind friends for their generosity. WHAT BECAME OF THE 'CHRISTMAS BEER.' Mr. Jacob Jones said that before the master left the room he had a certain mat- ter tto bring before the Board. A gentle- man just before Christmas had sent in a barrel of beer for the use of the inmates. The Board passed a resolution to decline the beer, and the only way to give effect to that resolution would be to send the cask back. But he had heard a rumour that not only had the beer not been sent back, but that the barrel had been actually tapped. However, he did not believe rumours, and did net believe that Mr Jones was the man to disregard the resolution of the Board. There- fore he brought the matter forward that day to give Mr. Jones an opportunity of ex- plaining. He asked if the barrel had been tapped. The Master replied that he did not un- derstand when he was appointed master of the House that the officials were to be denied beer, or any food they might care to purchase themselves. For fifty years a pint of beer per day had been allowed to tbi5 officers in the House but a few years back they asked for money allowance in lieu of beer, and that request was granted by the Guardians. He did not know that there were any teetotallers- there, but this he knew that there were no more temperate body of officers fanywhere. With regard to the beer referred to by Mr. Jacob Jones, it was not a barrel that Mr. Ellis had sent, but a small nine gallon cask. When it was de- cided not to accept the beer, he wrote to Mr. Ellis saying he would buy it and asking that a bill be sent to him for it. And he was drinking it himself. Mr. Joseph Lloyd: Pity you do not ask someone else to join you (laughter). The Master; I believe the beer is doing me good. Mr. John Roberts, Geinas Do I under- stand that Mr. Ellis presented the beer to the master ? The Master: I asked for a bill, and am prepared to pay it when qpnt. Mr. Ellis has not sent it yet, but I hope he will. Mr. Jacob Jones said the master's reply was quite beside the question. He did not i deny beer to any of the officers, What he complained about was that the resolution of the Board had been disregarded. If Mr. Jones wanted beer he could have got it in some other way. The Board had decided that this beer should be returned. The Master remarked that he wished to be quite clear if that was the purport of the resolution. He did not understand it so, but he might be wrong. The Clerk read the resolution which was to the effect that the beer sent by Mr. Ellis for distribution among the paupeet be de- clined. The Chairman Declined for distribution among the paupers. It has not been dis- tributed among the paupers has it ? The Master (emphatically): No, sir. I was charged by a Guardian last Board-day with having done so, but I challenged that friend to prove his assertion. Mr. Joseph Lloyd: Don't the inmates get brandy sauce with their plum pudding at Christmas ? The Master said that brandy sauce was not allowed,*but he bad granted it, since he had been master there every year. Mr. Joseph Lloyd: What is the use of making so much fuss about beer when the inmates get brandy 1 (laughter). Mr. Wm. Wynne: I propose we proceed to the next business. The Chairman Are you satisfied with the explanation of the master ? Mr. Jacob Jones did not consider that the master had replied to his question. While he was speaking on this question, they would perhaps permit him to read a para- graph touching the beer question at another Union. 'At the Eton Board of Guardians sitting at Slough, Dr. Buce presented his last report. He had been in the service of the Board for forty years, and was, because of his advanced age of 82 years, resigning his office. In his report the doctor stated that for the last 22 years he had abstained from ordering, except in a very moderate way, the use of intoxicating drinks. No beer, gin, rum, or whiskey was given to the sick, while brandy and wine were not used but to the average value of Ss. per annum, for many years past. During that time he found the inmates in better health, and lived longer than when the cost of intoxi- cants was something like X150 annually. The master's report shewed that during the Christmas festivities, nine only out of 174 inmates desired to have beer rather than an increased allowance of tobacco, tea, and sugar. Both the master and matron were total abstainers.' Mr. J. D. Jones seconded the motion to proceed to the next business, and that was agreed to. CONFERENCE OF POOR LAW GUARDIANS. A letter was read from the Secretary of the Central Poor Law Board, intimating that the next conference would be held in London on the 9th and 10th of March, and that Boards of Guardians subscribing the sum of 10s. towards the expenses of the Con- ference, would be entitled to be represen- ted. Members of Boards that did not sub- scribe could attend the Conference on pay- ment of 2s. 6d. each day. Mr. Joseph Lloyd said their Board had been represented at these Conferences be- fore, but never at the cost of the ratepayers. If any (subscriptions had been paid they must have been borne by the Guardians who attended the Conference personally. A question was raised as to whether any of the St. Asaph Guardians would be likely to attend, and it was elicited that at present there was no likelihood of the Board being represented. Mr. A. Foulkes proposed that a subscrip- tion of 10s. be paid. The Vice-chairman seconded. Mr. Ellis Williams What for ? There is no one going from the Union. Mr. Joseph Lloyd: I move that we pro- ceed to the next business. On a division, two only voted for the mo- tion, and it was therefore declared lost. THE BOARD AND THE SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO CHILDREN. In reply to a letter from the clerk of the Board, the Rev. B. Waugh, president of the National Society for the prevention of cruel- ty to children, stating that the Local Go- vernment Board allowed Boards of Guard- ians to subscribe to the funds of the society, and giving a list of several Boards that did so subscribe. Mr. Llewelyn Jones, Rhyl, wrote sugges- ting that the St. Asaph Board should sub- cribe tio per annum to the society. It would be a saving in the long run to do so. The society's object was to make people take care of their children, and in doing that they would take better care of them- selves, and would therefore not be so liable to become chargeable to the Union. Mr. Howes Roberts said he was in favour of subscribing something to this society. But the suggestion of J10 a year killed him (laughter). He proposed that they subscribe a guinea a year. Mr. Roberts, Geinas: A guinea would be rather little. Mr. Howes Roberts said he would make it two guineas. Mr. Joseph Lloyd protested against sub- scribing at all, as it was wrong in principle. There were plenty of people who would voluntarily subscribe to the society, but it would be wrong for them in the face of the present depression to apply any part of the ratepayers' money to the purpose. He moved that they proceed to the next busi- ness. Mr. Thomas Morgan seconded. Mrs. Mary Jones seconded Mr. Howes Ro- berts' proposal to subscribe two guineas, which was carried by 16 votes to 15. APPRECIATION OF SYMPATHY. A letter was read from Mr. H. Parry, Bettws,acknowledging receipt of the Board's letter of sympathy with him in his illness, and thanking theZGuardians for their expres- sion of condolence. He was glad to say he was getting better. The Chairman said that no doubt all of them felt pleased to learn that Mr. Parry was recovering. GRANTS UNDER THE NEW RATING ACT. A communication was read from the Local Government Board, with regard to the grant to the Union under the Agricultural Rating Act. The Clerk said that his figures did not quite agree with those of the Local Govern- ment Board, and it was resolved to leave the matter in Mr. Grimsley's hands. I CALLS IN ARREAR. The Clerk reported that the follow" parishes were In arrears with their calls Bettws yn Illioi, X33 Cefn, £ 25 *t li £3<1: Rhuddlan, £81 iSt. Asaob st George, £ 16 Waen, £ 17. j.



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