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Carmarthen Town Council. A special of the Carmarthen Town Council held at the Townhall, on Tue.s- a.m. The chair was oceupiied by 6 Mayer (Mr Walter Spurrell). There were- a so pieteni Rev Joseph Harry, Principal *»• J- Evans, Mr George Phillips, Mr H. IB. Whil" Mr D. E. Stephens, Mr T. E. Brig- stock^ Mr C. W. Jones, Mr A. E. 0. Norton, Mr/Valter LJoyd. Mr J. F. Morris. Mr E. Colby Evanx, Mr A. Soppitt, Mr D. C. Thomas) t0getW Wlth the Clerk (Mr R. M. i M. T „MARKET TROUBLES. tlmf i ^"0U*S x'r<MV attention to the fact Sir p ;;nh were *»*<> an i ,S 'n ne mai'ket were allowed to iho\it, tra 1 ° ^ai'' ai1 l!n^a"" advantage over local rp,0811^11 Mno ^id 11 adopt these methods p • aJor said that at the meeting <n a1"1 in" a uc^i°ns had been given to the up. o Police to repress any undue Hoke,1 as far as the market bye-laws would allow. THE EDUCATIONAL DIFFICULTY. The Clerk after reading the report of He Education Committee, which will be found in pother cclumn, said that Mr T. Wallers, the Clerk to the School Board, would have a 'ighit, if the salary of his office were not re-1 adjusted in accordance with. the. ;\ddit: nial dUties, to retire and claim compensation. His Present salary was £ 55; it .stood to re a: (.n 'lati the duties would be greater j.s there now schools under the Education Com- mittee which had not been under the School •Board. It was decided to ask the Education Crm- XUittee to investigate the matter. Rev J. Harry said that Mr Dd. Williaifs, J.P., had declined to act as manager of the iory School, and Miss Lewis for 'fill sr. The Clerk said that if the Council was Prepared to delegate: its powers to the Edu- «*uan Committee, that matter could be ealt with by the Committee. Principal Evans said that they should not be in too great a hurry to delegate their Power. They ofight, to distinguish between IIOIne duties and others. Some very impor- tant duties would have to be performed by j^s' committee sooner or later; it was well kat the. Council should retain its power, and Ilot. have their hands tied, and be without any real control over the education of the town. The Mayor said that the powers delegated Could be, withdrawn at. any time. Mr George Phillips said that the question ef the survey of the schools was a very impor- tant one to the ratepayers of the town. He thought, there should be an independent rson to certify their condition, and report to the Town Council. He moved that Mr George Morgan, architect, King street, be R-PPlointed. Principal Evans said that, he saw no need tor it in the case of the provided schools the Council was responsible for them in any e&se. In the case of the provided schools, the responsibility for the repairs was divided between tne managers and the Council. The jDouncil wa& required to make good any repairs that in its opinion may be due to fegitimate wear and tear. To enable the Council to form an opinion as to what was tue to legitimate wear and tear, it was iesirafele to have, a report on the condition of the schools. Mr C. W. Jones moved that they have a import on all the schools. They were a new ibody; and they were taking over the bunu- ings which belonged to the old body. Nobody would buy a house without having it thoroughly examined. Mr D. E. Stephens said that, it was only in thei casp of the non-provided schools that. the survey was needed. In the, other case they would have to take over the schools as they were, and to do all the repairs required. Mr Soppift seconded Mr C. W. Jones' motion. Mr Brigstocke thought, that the Borough Surveyor ought to be able to make, a report, without going ouitsde. The, Clerk said that it, was a new duty, and they could nardly ask the Surveyor to do it without considering the revision of his salary. Mr Walter Lloyd Will this be an annual thing? The Mayor No, just at the, taking over. Mr H. B. White: Are not the voluntary Mhools now (periodically examined by the Inspectors ? Are they not. required to come up to a certain standard. The Clerk It is very necessary to have a record as to their present, state, in order that the repairs year by year may be pro- perly divided, and the. proper proportion i attributed to what is stupidly called in the, I Act, "fair" wear and tear. Only two members voted for Mr C. W. Jones' amendment, and the motion was carried. Principal Evans suggested that full powers be granted to the Education Committee, with an obligation to report, so that the, Council would know what was going on. The M?yor said that that meant that the minute hlOk of the Committee might be brougm l:p bfeore the Council who would have a right of veto. The Clerk: You cannot retain a right of Veto if you delegate your powers. The Mayor said that it would be best to delegate full powers to the committee; if they found it did not work they could revoke the powers. They could do that at any time after six months according to the Standing Orders of the Council. Mr Walter Lloyd said that the Council had estimated RII.400 for educational pur- poses during the coming year, and the Com- mittee could not exceed that without, coming to the Council. The Clerk -said that the finance was rather complicated; there was a balance carried forward from the School Board, so that during the first year the Committee would really have- the power of spending more than £ 1,400. They could provide that the delega- tion doe-a not extend to the increase or the fixing of salaries, or thei expenditure of a given sum for more than one object. Principal Evans suggested that the. com- mittee be asked to .schedule the powers which they would like delegated to them. The Mayor: They have, asked for full power. Mr E. Colby Evans moved that the matter be adjourned for further consideration. The Education, Committee, wh;ch had been appoin- ted did not know what their powers were. If the matter were adjourned until the next meeting, they could havo more information on the subject. He did not think that they should delegate all their powers to the Com- mittee lie agreed that, the minute book of the Committee should be, produced at the Town Council meetings. Mr White, seconded the proposition that full powers be delegated to, the Committee. The proposal was earned nem. con. Rev J. Harry said that there were four Churchmen managers of the Model School. Might, he, ask who these four were. Mr White said they were: The Vicar (Rev T. R. Walters), Rev C. G. Browne, Rev J. Marsden, and Mr James Da vies. It was also •elicited tha the foundation managers of the Priory .school were: The Yen. Archdeacon Evans, Rev D. T. Alban, Mr J. S. Lester, and Mr H Brunei White, Nobody present could tell who were the, four foundation J managers of tho -cmuan Catholic schools Rev J. Harry ?oid that the Education Com mittec, consisted of 7 Churchmen and 6 Non- conformists. The managers of the Voluntary schools consisted of 12 Churchmen and 6 Nonconformists. That meant, that. the Edu- cation. (elementary) of the town, was managed by 19 Ohurchmenand 12 Nonconformits. He would like to know if the Mayor considered that a, fair representation of the electors of the town. The Mayor I don't know that the ques- tion arises exactly here. The Rev J. Harry: You were kind enough to give us your opinon at the previous meet- ing. I should like to get an expression of opinion «s regards this. Mr C. W. Jones said that lie did not, see what influence. the opinion of the Mayor on a question of this kind would have at all either with the ratepayers or with, the Com- mittee. He did not, see that they had to deal with this matter now; the whole matter was settled at a. previous meeting. He did not. quite know whether Mr Harry was right :0 in stating that of the Committee were Churchmen. Rev J. Harry: As a matter of fact they were. Mr C. W. Jones: You have scrutinised them very closely. You have gone into the matter. The Mayor said that the composition of the managing committees of the Voluntary schools was not in » their hands. It was settled by the Act. Mr C. W. Jones as-ied if they were in order in discussing ths on the report of the Education Committee. The Mayor .said that perhaps it was not strictly in order; but as they were now get- ting into working order, they might as well get any information they could. Rev J. Harry asked the Mayor if lie would define the duties of the managers whom they had just appointed. The Mayor said that he could not define their duties they would have to attend the meetings, and take part in the business, the same as everybody else. The Clerk said that the appointment of masters an-, the, care of the buildings was- ex,emp--ed from the control of the represen- tative managers. Mr C. W. Jones: I believe it is quite understood that the Church schools are still to be kept, in repair by private subscriptions. I believe that is part of the Act, and that the other schools, the Nonconformist schools, am to be repaired by public money. Principal Evans: Not altogether. Repairs in the voluntary schools required by fair wear and usage may be paid for by the Council. Mr C. W. Jones: May be. It is not likely they will be. Principal Evans: Such repairs as in the opinion of this Council, are due to fair wear and tear must be paid for by this Council. Mr C. W. Jones: A good deal depends on the constitution of this Council. Mr A. Soppdttt: It is only tenant's repairs —not landlord's repairs—the Council have to do. Mr Brigstocke said that it, was only fair to state that by having the use, of the present, schools, the Council were spared the expendi- ture of £10,000 on new buildings. The report, of the Education Committee was adopted in full. FENCING THE RESERVOIR. A discussion arose over the proposal to fence in the reservoir. Thei Surveyor esti- mated that it would cost zC40 to rail it. in with 4ft. Gin. posts and wire fencing. Mr C. W. Jones said that he had just. been up at the new reservoir, and they could congratulate themselves very much on the successful completion of the new waterworks. There was 40 feet of water in the reservoir, the day he was up there, and the contractor was rather annoyed that, the water had not increased in volume during thei last few days. He (Mr C. W. Jones) told the contractor that we were having a constant supply—a fact of which the contractor was not aware. He had been afraid there was a leak some- where. The Mayor said that, they would never fed safe so long as the place was unfenced. They could see how easy it would be for anybody to fall in. Mr C. W. Jones thought that there should be a care talker. The Mayor If a child falls in, and gets drowned, you will have to drain away every drop of water. Mr C. W. Jones: They have no bust less there; they would be, trespassing. The Mayor: Yes; but that won't help us; we will lose the water, and— Mr C. W. Jones The child will lose its life. A small committee was appointed to vUio the place and report.

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