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ST. ASAPH. St. Asaph Board of Guardians. Friday,—Prssent, Mr Frimston (chair- man), Mr William Jones (vice-chairman), Mrs Robert Jones, Mrs De Rance, Mrs Howel Gee, Miss Gee, Canon C J Roberts, Messrs William Williams, J Ellis Jones, Hugh Williams, R Armor Jones, Thomas Evans, Owen Rees, J T Parry, J B Williams, John Morris, Hugh Edwards, LI B Evhns, J Lothian, Edwin Morgan, George Williams, John Pierce, Robert Davies, William Morris, W S Roberts, John Roberts, J R Ellis, S Perks, J D Jones, Isaac Batho, Robert Jones, Prestatyn with the clerk (Mr Charles Grimsley), and other officials. RHYL MAY DAY. On tha motion of the Chairman, seconded by Mr John Pierce, a hearty vote of thanks was accorded the May Day Committee and their secretary (Mr Polkinghorne) for entertaining the work- house children on the day of the demon- stration in that town. THE HOUSE. The Master reported the receipt of illustrated papers, magazines, &c., from Mrs Groves, Bryn Polyn Mawr, and Mrs Hewitt, St Asapb, for the use of the inmates, and they were thanked for their thoughtful kindness. The Master farther reported that there were 146 paupers in the house, being a decrease of 19 as compared with the previous year. The number of vagrants relieved during the fortnight was 259 an increase of seven as compared with last yaar. CONDOLENCE WITH THE ROYAL FAMILY. The Chairman, in proposing a vote of condolence with the Queen and the Royal Family, said that the country had suffered a great calamity. It had been a terrible blow to them all as a nation, as a country, and as an Empire. King Edward was one of the best Kings that had ever sat on the English throne, beleved by all section of the community—high, low, rich and poor. To the poor especially he always showed the very kindliest and considerate of feel- ings, and amongst this section of the population his loss would be severely felt. No doubt the members of that board as loyal subjects to his late Majesty they all felt his loss deeply. In the words of an eminent writer he would conclude referring to tll;) dead monarch as the peacemaker" and as most discreet and influential states- man the world had ever seen. He begged to move a vote of condolence and con- gratulation to King George the Fifth on tD his accession. Mr William Jones (the vice-chairman) seconded, and the motion was carried, all the members standing. THE PRINCIPLES OF PUBLIC RELIEF. The B O'iiu considered a circular letter from the Local Government Board with regard to the method and principles of public relief—deferred from the previous meeting. Mr Edwin Morgan pointed out that the adoption of the regulations contained in the circular letter would certainly meaa the expenditure of more money. He had gone into the matter with some care, but had never yet been able to put his finger j I on anything for the bonefit of the guardians. To carry out tho recommendations would certainly mean a considerable increase of expenditure. Mr S Perks concurred with Mr Morgan's remarks. No doubt some good would be done if the recommendations of the Royal Commission of the Poor Law were carried out, but that meant such a radical change in the manner of assisting the poor that it required very careful consideration on the part of the board before they committed themselves to such a large undertaking. The expenditure involved by the changes would almost be too large to calculate, and the guardians were not ready to say what good the change would make. If the guardians carried out the directions they received from time to time from the Local Government Board, all the requirements of assisting the deserving poor would be met. Mr J R Ellis said the circular referred to the desirability of paying the paupers in their own homes, but with their present staff this was impossible owing to the scattered condition of the district. He should, however, like to see paupers attend- ing the pay stations themselves as far as possible, and the custom of paying children on their behalf done' away with. Of course when paupers could not attend owing to illness the relieving officer could relieve them in their own homes. Mr Batho said that the circular sug- gested that Boards of Guardians should mind their own house. In regard to general principles some of the suggestions should b9 acted upon with advantage, and he moved that a small committee should final with tha matter. -#0 Mr Robert Davies (Bettws) seconded. Mr John Roberts thought that as the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had con- sidered the matter they should deal with it in open board. Everything was sent to committee. Mr John Pierce said he was in favour of waiting to see some other body adopt- ing the suggestions first. It was eventually decided to leave the matter in abeyance. UNEMPLOYED MARRIED MEN. The Hendon Union wrote asking the board to pass a resolution in favour of Boards of Guardians being empowered to grant out-relief to unemployed married men with families while in search of work. Mr J Ellis Jonea said that men of this class had baen somewhat neglected by the system now in vogue. While considering the many cises that came before the relief committee he had been struck by the fact that cases of married men out of employ- ment could not ba entertained on account of the present legal provisions because able- bodied married men could not receive out- relief. In such cases all the relieving officers could do was to offer the House, and that in his (Mr Ellis Jones') opinion was a very great hardship (hear, hear). He therefore proposed that a resolution be passed in, favour of allowing guardians to relieve those men for a month, to give them an opportunity of seeking employ- ment. Mr LI B Evans bad much pleasurt, in seconding. He found many deserving cases of men quite willing and anxious to work walking about the country seeking employment, which they could not get, whilst their wives and families were at home starving. He knew of a case of this kind when the children of a working man had to subsist on bread and salt, and yet' the relieving officer could give no relief. Mp Ellis Roberts (Llugin), spoke against the proposition. Farmers found great difficulty in getting men that would work, but there were now plenty of idlers about, who were often relieved from the rates. Why therefore open the door wider. As Guardians their duty was to make it narrower to keep out the undeserving. Mr Perks said he was thoroughly in favour of the principle contained in the resolution, but the difficulty was to carry it out impartially and efficiently. Mr Robert Jones (Prestatyn), said his experience went to show that the Board did at present deal properly with all cases of destitution, and he failed to see how much farther they could go. Mr John Pierce also contended that the Guardians had dealt very leniently with the class of people referred to, and thought it would be dangerous to open the door wide. The Chairman thought the Guardians would be safe in leaving this matter in abeyance for a time. Under a recent statute labour exchanges were being insti- tuted throughout the country, but there had been no time to see how these would work in general. Up to the present, how- ever, they had worked very well. On a division three only voted for the resolution, which was lost. COST OF CLOTHING. The Clerk presented a return showing that the average cost of clothing per inmate throughout the whole of the North Wales Unions was t5 15s, and for St Asaph £4 10s 6d (hear, hear). This was considered very satisfactory. THE COUNTY COUNCIL. Notificati6n was received from the Denbighshire County Council stating that the Finance Committee had resolved that tho estimates of receipts and expenditure would, in future, be submitted in the January ind July meetings, so as to enable the Guardians to issue their precepts to the overseers in time to enable the latter to act according to those precepts. This will remove a cause of complaint often referred to in the meetings of the Beard. I THE TEACHING OF THE BLIND. It was decided to continue to contribute .,£5 to the North Wales Society for the Training of the Blind. A KINDLY ACTION. THE CHAPEL BEAUTIFIED. Mr Isaac Batho called attention to the fact that Mr John Morris, the guardian for Trefnant, had most kindly painted and decorated the Workhouse Chapel at his own expense. The work had been beauti- fully carried out, and the building now was one of the nicest places of worship in the district. He moved a cordial vote of thanks to Mr John Morris for his generous action. The Chairman, in seconding, said the ohapel now looked really beautifully, and the Board was very much indebted to Mr Morris for his kindness. The motion was carried with acclama- tion, and Mr Morris briefly acknowledged. THE WATER BILL. Mr Robert Jones (Denbigh) called attention to the water bill of the institu- tion, and argued that X50 a year might be saved if the Board went into the matter thoroughly. To pay zC120 a year for water to the Workhouse was something enormous, and he thought that a committee should go into the matter. It was pointed out that a committee had the matter already under consideration, and the subject dropped.


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