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NORTH WALES POOR LAWI CONFERENCE.

AN EX-INSPECTOR'S CRITICISM.

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AN EX-INSPECTOR'S CRITICISM. Mr Bircham held that any old-age pension scheme that destroyed the guardiacs as such was a mistake, and he was in favour of their continuance. He failed to see the difference between an old-age pension and an old-age pauper (hear, hear). He could not understand why, with all their experience of Poor-law administration, guardians should be put aside, and the funds placed in the hands of strange authorities to administer with- out the advantage of their experience and advice, and he could not help thinking that when the different committees of councils got to work they would wish for the help from the guardiats. He could not see any stigma in people getting relief from rates except the stigma arising from the fact that they received relief from the rates. That was the real stigma, and it was the same whether the relief came in the form of old-age pensions or otherwise (hear, hear). Mra Casson (Portmadoc) thought countv councils were not the people to administer the Pensions Act. Mr Petrie thought county councils had plenty to do already, without having the administration of this Act put upon them. The Rev W Morgan said the Act would only touch the fringe of poverty. Mr Robert Jones (St Aaaph) moved the adjournment of the debate until Wednes- day, and it was carried. Mr Brown, responding to a vote of thanks, appealed to the conference to en. deavour tc persnade the Poor-law unions in Wales to join the Association of Poor- law Unions. Mr L Lloyd John (Corwen) proposed that the conference should fortujlly endorse the recommendations. Canon Thos Edwards (Aber) seconded the proposition, and it was carried unani- mously. The members of the conference were then driven to Penrhyn Qaarries, and subse- quently by invitation of Lord Penrhyn partook of tea at Ogwen Bank. Mr Robert Jones, St Asaph, continued the debate on Mr Brown's paper of the pre- vious day on the Old Age Pensions Act. He thought as the Act was passed it was a waste of time to discuss it, but if it was thought advisable to move any resolution thereon he would propose that the confer- ence recommend to the County Councils who had to administer it that they should elect on their committees a number of guardians. Some of the speakers took exception to what was regarded as carping criticise be- cause the administration of the Act bad not been entrusted to poor law guardians. With reference to the employment of excise officers to make inquiries respecting appli- cations for pensions, it was pointed out that most of those officials in the principality were Irishmen or Scotchmen, and a resolu- tion was passed asking the Government to see that all excisemen appointed under the Act were able to speak Welsh. An interesting paper on the Children's Bill by Miss Philp, secretary of the State Children's Association, was followed by a vigorous discussion, in which the workhouse as a home for children was vigorously con- demned, and the Government was asked to make further and extended provision for the protection of girls under 16 years of age. It was decided to hold the next meeting 9( the conference at Wrexham. There was a good joke in connection with the luncheon which was given to all the delegates by Mr Davies, Bangor, who had also engaged a band and troupe of pierrots to entertain them. By a curious slip he caused, at first, surprise, and then, roars of laughter, when, in referring to the enjoy- ment of the entertainment by the delegates, he said it had been greatly enjoyed by the people of the Workhouse

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