Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald and North and South Wales Independent

3.-CARMARTHENSHIRE. The seal is circular, and 2 inches a diameter. It contains a shield bearing a harp mpaling a leek; crest, a dragon. Motto: Rliyddil gwerin, Ffyniant gwlad," signifying "A free people, a prosperous country," but, literally translated, would be, '■ The freedom of the people the prosperity of a country." The old motto of the towu of Carmarthen is. Rhyddid, Hedd, Llwyddiant" (Freedom, Peace, Pros- perity). Perhaps the motto adopted was sug- gested by that. The seal is executed in a high style of art, and as a pictorial design may be regarded as pretty and attractive, but it lucks local significance.

4 —CARDIGANSHIRE. The seal is circular, and 2 inchea in (liameteig The design is altogether new, being H. representa- tion of the University College or Wales. Aber- ystwyth, with the words •• Cymru Fydd" (Wales will be), above, and "Goreu arf. firf dysg" (The best weiipon, the weapon of Jenming), sur- rounding with a garter bearing Cynghor Sirol Ceredigion (Cardiganshire County Council)."

5.—DENBIGHSHIRE.' The seal adopted by the County Cnincil is circular, and 1 inch in diameter, and bears simply a lion rampant surrounded by a garter containing "Seal of the Denbighshire County Council," and the motto, "Duw a dig-on." The translation of the latter is God and enough." A lion rampant was borne for arms by March- weithian, the eleventh, and Eunydd, the four- teenth, of the fifteen Tribes of North Wales, whose descendants are chiefly to be found in Denbighshire. Marchweithian bore, Gules, a lionjrampant ar., armed azure, while Eunydd's (or Efnydd's) were, Azure, a lion saliant or There can be little doubt that this led to th3* adoption by the county of Denbigh of a lion rampant for arms.

6.—C AR X AR VO NS HIR E. The seal is circular, and 3 £ inches in diameter. 2 In the centre is a shield bearing the arms of Edward the First-Cyit., three lions pass, guard. in pale or, differenced by a label of five points. Within a trefoil around the shield "tl-1re9 eagles displayed" are arranged. OtltsidA te trefoil is the motto. 11 Eryr Eryrod Eryri (The eagle of Sucwdonia's eagle). The design is:au adaptation j of the ancient seal of the borough of Carnarvon* which also has au eagle displayed for a crest. The arrus of Owen Gwynedd— Pert, three eagles displayed in fesse or—had been tor some time treated as the County arms (though, as a matter of fact, there were no such arms). In the design for the seal it will be seen that the three eagles displayed are arranged within a trefoil around the shield, with the ancient arms of the Borough of Carnarvon. The seal and press were presented to the county by the late County Alderman F. W. Lloyd-Edwards Nanhoron, chairman of Quarter Sessions. The arrangement of the three eagles around the shield is not heraldic. Some would have thought it more appropriate if the two coats had been either impaled or quartered, giving the Welsh coat the precedence, to which in point of date it seems to be entitled. The seal is now rather a compounded device than a heraldic coat.

MONTGOMERYSHIRE. THE Montgomeryshire Joint Education Com- mittee intend offering schools to Newtown, Machynlleth, and Welshpool, with a notice that a proportion of the funds will be reserved for applications from other places in the county. Power is given to the local committee to add teaching in agriculture or technical subjects to the general curriculum, provided it is given in such a manner as will allow of a grant being made to the school by the Science and Art Department. The standard fee is to be six guineas, any reduction in this requiring the con- currence of the county committee.

AMLWCH. The local committee is fliaking every effort to raise the necessary amount for the erection of the buildings for the intermediate school. Public meetings have been held in the surround- ing districts and committees formed for the purpose of collecting. The subscriptions promised reach £ 780. Amongst the amounts promised are the following :Nlr. T. Fanning Evans, J.P., Mona Lodge, £100; Messrs. E. Morgan and Co., tobacco manufacturers, £100; Mr. Tate, Liverpool, £100; Mr. J. W. Paynter, Bryntirion, £ 50; Mr. C. H. Hills, Newcastle-on- Tyne, £ 50; Mr. J. Matthews, J.P., N. P. Bank, £:25; Mr. S. Hughes, Bodednyfed, £ 25; Mr. O. Lloyd Jones, Gwredog, £ 25; Mr. T. P. Lewis, M.P., £ 20; Mr. H. Roberts, J.P., Penbol. £ 20; and the Trustees of the Plas Coch Estate, S20.

HOLYHEAD. INTERMEDIATE EDUCATION. At Friday's meeting of the local committee, Captain R. B. Cay, R.N., presiding, a number of matters relating to intermediate education were dis- cussed. The secretary (Mr. R. J. Johns) was instructed to write to the Joint Education Com- mittee to say that Holyhead had raised about £ 600, and from the encouraging statement made to the committee, it was anticipated that the remaining £1000 would be torthcoming if an extension of time was granted. Several of the committee expressed themselves strongly against mixed schools, and it was unanimously resolved to inform the joint committee that a dual and not a mixed school should be best at Holyhead.

MOST COMMENDABLE [ A few years ago Mr. Hugh Hughes, National Provincial Bank, died leaving in trust XIO,000 to the poor of his native tuwn.of which sum £1000 have gone in law expenses. The local committee I have applied for a portion of the remaining S9000 to be devoted towards the erection of an intermediate school building at Holyhead. In these columns, last week, a correspondent sign- ing himself Holyhead Forward suggested that £1000 should be used in this way in return for the free educattion of a number of poor boys in the locality. The trustees of the late Mr. Hugh Hughes' Charity have since met and it is pleasing to find have adopted the suggestion and decided to apply to the Charity Commissioners for permission to use the £1000 in this way.

A FARMER SUINTG PARSONS AND AUCTIONEER. AT the Carmarthen County Court, on Friday, before his Honour Judge Beresford and a jury, the adjourned case of John v. Stevens and others was heard. The court was crowded, the case exciting great interest. This action was brought by Thomas John, farmer,, of Trerhos, Cilgerran, against the Rev. Thomas Jones. vicar of Peny- bryn; Rev. Thomas Parry, vicar of Cilgerran; and Charles Vivian Stevens, of Whitehall. London. The plaintiff claimed (1) S50 damages from the defendants for illegally and wrongfully distrain ing a partly cut rick of hay and two stacks of barley, belonging to the plaintiff, on the 28th March, 1889, and removing the hay from the plaintiff's land on the 13th June; (2) in the alternative the plaintiff claimed the £.50 damages for the defendants' having distrained the hay and barley, abandoned the same, and afterwards, on the 13th June, illegally retook possession of the hay (3) in the alternative, the plaintiff also claimed damages (a) for that the defendants made an excessive distress in seizing corn and hay of the value of X35. in satisfaction of a total sum of S8 16s. 2d., and damages for XIO, (b) for that the defendants seized the bay and corn and failed to sell on the expiration of five days or within a reasonable time after, (c) and that they did not sell the hay on the premises, of which count value of the hay was claimed S22 10s., and damages for renewal SIO, (d) for damages to a gatepost and jamb. Plaintiff claimed variAus sums under the several heads ot claim, but reduced the total to X50. to bring it within the jurisdiction of the court. The jury returned the following verdict:—" On the first point we find that distraint was not excessive after taking into consideration all the surround- ings and on the second point we think that there was delay in carrying out the sale, but the amount paid into court is sufficient to cover the loss." The Registrar (the judge having gone home) said he would report to his Honour, and at the next court someone would apply for judgment to be entered. Both parties claimed that the verdict was favourable to themselves.

THE GOVERNMENT AND THE TITHES QUESTION. The London correspondent of the Manchester Guardian says I hear that Lord Salisbury will take an early opportunity to state the in- tentions of the Government in regard to the tithes question, with the object of setting at rest the minds of the classes specially interested in the matter. There is no doubt that the question will be under consideration at the first meeting of the Cabinet preparatory to the open- ing of the session. A modified Tithes Bill will have precedence over the other legislation of the session, excepting the Land Puichase Bill, j and an endeavour will be made to carry it into law before the winter is far advanced. The re- demption clauses of the bill of last session will 1 be dropped, on the understanding that they are to be embodied in a separate measure at a future date. It is probable, too, that the five or six clauses dealing with the collection of tithe in the original bill will be cut down to two or three, and that in the wording of the clauses concessions will be made to the views of tenant- farmer representatives on the Conservative benches, especially in regard to the definition of the special ratable value. The bill will in fact be made t-s brief and non-contentious as possible, and an appeal may be made to the Opposition leaders to co-operate in paasing it into law at once. The idea of any compre- hensive settlement of the tithes question may be regarded as abandoned tor the present Parliament."

SALES IN MONTGOMERYSHIRE. Sales under distraint for tithes due to the incumbents of Pennant and Hirnnnt, Mont- gomeryshire, were held on Tuesday, the auctioneer being Mr. Croft, of Mold, accom- panied by Major Godfrey, chief-constable of Montizomeryshire, Mr. Martin Woosnam, solici- tor, Newtown, representing anti-tithepayers. A large crowd accompanied the party, and indulged in the usual noisy demonstration, but without any breach of the peace. Four farms were visited. At two of them the tenants paid under protest, or otherwise sales were effected. Anti-tithe speeches were made, and on one of the farms an effigy of a clergyman was exhibited amidst hooting.

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SELECTION OF SCHOOL LOCALITIES. Tins committee held a meeting at Dolgelley on Wednesday, there being present Messrs. E. Jones, M.D., Dolgelley E. P. Jones, Cefuymaes, Festi- niog Captain Taylor, and the Hon. W. H. Bruce, and Mr. Robert Jones (clerk to the County Council). AN APPLICATION FROM TOWYN. A deputation from Towyn waited upon the committee with an application on [behalf of thp.t town for one of the schools. There is a building ready at Towyn, namely Brynarvor Hall, in which at one time a middle class school was carried on very successfully. THE CLAIMS OF DOLGELLEY. The following deputation appeared to uphold the claims of DolgelleyRev. W. Williams, rector Messrs. E. Griffith, J.P., J. H. Marshall, J. Sherriff Roberts, R. Jones-Griffith, R. Wil- liams, Post-office, and J. Charles Hughes.-Air. Bruce said that the committee could take over the care of the endowments belonging to the grammar school now existing in the town, but they could not make any change in the religious character of the same.—The Chairman said it would be far better if all these distinctions were done away with, but- Mr. Sherriff Roberts did not believe H: would be either just or wise to deviate from the wishes of those who left the endowments.—Mr. J. Charles Hughes spoke in favour of having a school at Dolgelley. There was already an excellent intermediate school for girls in that town, and if another for boys were instituted the teachers of the one could be of ser- vice in the other.—Mr. E. Griffith pointed out that claims were also made by Aberdovey and Barmouth, and he believed there was ample scope for two such schools in that part of the county.—The Chairman thought it would be wise on their part to call the attention of the Dolgelley committee to the fact that the endowments in connection with Dr. Williams's School were at first intended for the children of Presbyterian parents, but that that aspect of the endowments had been done away with, and now there was no such distinction made. These endowments were of the value of about -P300-much more than the value of the endowments in connection with the grammar school. LOCALITIES FIXED UPON. It "was remarked that the share for Merioneth- shire of the money un¡>el' to" Local Taxation Act would I mount to IT84, The money would not be received, probably, before Christmas 1891, and it is expected that by that time there will be about S2500 in hand.Nlr. E. P. Jones thought the committee ought to fix upon the various localities or districts for the schools, and thus the districts would not be left in the dark as to the number of schools they intended having.— Further consideration to the matter was given in private, with the result that schools will be established in Blaenau FestiniDg,Bala, Dolgelley, and Towyn. No final decision has as yet been srrived at with respect to that district outlying between Barmouth and Penrhyndeudraeth. This will probably be decided after a consulta- tion with the Carnarvonshire Joint Committee.

STANDING JOINT POLICE • COMMITTEES. DENBIGHSHIRE. THE LLANNEFYDD DISTRAINTS. APPOINTMENT OF A COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY. A MEETING of the Standing Joint Committee of the Denbighshire County Council was held at the Court House, Wrexham, on Wednesday. Captain Griffith-Boscawon presided, and there were also present: Sir Robert Egerton, Sir W. Grenville Williams, Dr. Turnour, Mr. O. Slaney Wynne, Captain Cole, Messrs. Sparrow, E. Windsor Davies, O. Isgoed Jones, E. Hooson, Simon Jones, Briscoe, Thomas Gee, John Parry, J. C. Edwards, Turner, W. G. Dodd, Captain W. D. W. Griffith, theJChief-constable (Major Lead- better), the County Surveyor, the Clerk (Mr. Adams), and Superintendents Wilde, Vaughan, and Hammonds. CHIEF-CONSTABLE'S REPORT. The report of the Chief-constable for the period ending 29th September showed, under the head of indictable offences, 13 crimes com- mitted as against 20 in the corresponding quarter of last year, 6 persons apprehended against 10, 1 discharged against 1, and 5 com- mitted for trial against 9. Offences determined summarily: Number Jof persons proceeded against, 557 against 499 discharged, 78 against 96; convicted, 479 against 403. Larcenies pro- ceeded against, 19 against 10; discharged, 5 against 1 convicted 14 against 9. Value of property stolen S50 4s. lid. against S122 7s.; recovered, £9.6 10s. lid. against E93. Crime and offences as compared with the correspond- ing quarter of last year showed a decrease of seven in indictablo offences determined sum- marily, and a decrease of S72 2s. Id. in the value of property stolen. Forty-eight offences were reported during the year, showing a de- crease of eight as compared with last year. Thirty persons were apprehended, five of whom were discharged, and 25 committed for trial for the following offences:—Manslaughter, 1; in- decent assaults, 3; burglary and housebreaking, r) attempt to rob, 1 horse stealing, 2; larceny, 8; embezzlement, 1 obtaining by false pre- tences, 1 setting fire to heath, 3; total 25. 1749 persons were proceeded against summarily, 1299 of whom were fined, one sent to a reforma- tory, 8 to industrial schools, 1 whipped, 46 bound to recognisances, 3 delivered' to the army, 89 committed to gaol, and 41 other punishments. 27 publicj and beerhouses were proceeded against, 14 being for breaches of the Sunday Closing Act, and 13 for other offences. 604 persons were charged with drunkenness, showing a decrease of 25, and 149 for being drunk on Sundays, being exactly the same as last year. 5942 tramps were relieved during the year, showing a decrease of 630 as compared with last year. I have to ask that notice be given for tenders for police clothing for the ensuing year. He (the chief-constable) had the honour to present the general annual returns by the Secretary of State in conformity with the 19th and 20th Vic., cap. 69. THE DISTRAINTS AT LLANNEFYDD. On the police accounts appeared some items amounting in the aggregate to L52 odd for police conveyance, &c., on the occasion of the recent distraints at Llannefydd.Llanfairtalhaiarn and neighbourhood. To several of these Mr. Gee took exception as being excessive, and moved that a considerably smaller aiuouut be paid. Mr. Ilooson, in seconding, Rsked by whose authority the aid of the military was obtained. There was a general feeling that it had been done by the chief-constable, and it was only right ttiat the matter should be explained. The Chief-constable said he had drawn up a statement in explanation, and read the following special report as to tithe disturbances I am sorry to report similar difficulties in protecting tithe-collecting agents as have been experienced in this county for some years. I have done everything in my power to avert matters coming to a crisis. On the 21st May, I conferred with the officers of the Anti-tithe League at Mr. Gee's office at Denbigh, and suggested meeting the farmers at Llannefydd and other parishes to try and arrange some pacific plan of operation, for which purpose the names of the various tithe- payers were given me by the secretary. I had issued a circul«r, of which the following is a copy Dear sir,—I have received notice' from the Ecclesiastical Commissioners that it is their intention to distrain for arrears of tithe, begir ning the first week in J una. As chief-constable. 1 am responsible tor their safety in their duties of distraiuing and selling. I am therefore most anxious that these very disagreeable duties may be carried out with such demonstrations only as do not amount to intimidation or assault, for wliich purpose I would be most happy if you would appoint a meeting at Denbigh as early as possible so that I may attend and consult with you over such means as may be thought necessary and advis- able for the peace of this county, as well as to save the public from unnecessary expense.— Yours faithfully, T. J. LEADBErTEit, Chief- constable.'—The meeting was appointed JJfor the 4th of June, on which day I travelled from London to Denbigh, having been there to attend the annual meeting of chief-constables. On my attending the place at the hour named not a single farmer was there to meet me. I under- stand it was so arranged at a meeting at Llan- sannan on the night before. I had therefore to make the best arrangements I could, rand agreed with Mr. Stevens that he was to go on with his work, if possible, with the local policemen only. This arrangement succeeded for sorre time in the Vale of Clwyd, but on the 17th June when distraining in the parish of Llannefydd was attempted, Mr. Stevens found that he was unable to proceed with his work in consequence of the violent opposition shown. At my request he tried again at Llannefydd on the 18th June, accompanied by Superintendent Vaughan and one policeman. On this occasion also the party had to retura to Denbigh in consequence of the attitude of the crowd. Accordingly on June 24th I asked this committee to meet 4me at Denbigh to consider the aspect of affairs when evidence was taken as to the disturbance fromMr. Stevens, Superintendent Vaughan, and Mr. G. Parry. At that meeting I was given full discretionary powers to deal with what difficultes might occur in the future. During the month of July the Ecclesiastical Commissioners' agents were distraining about the country working on horse- back,nnd had little or no police protection. I was in hopes matters might so go on, but when the sales came on, affairs assumed a more serious aspect, and on the 6th August I met Messrs. Dale and Stevens and arranged to give them such pro- tection as I might be able to do under the cir- cumstances, beginning on Friday.8th August, at Llanfairtalhaiarn, aud Llannefydd on Monday, the 11th. On Monday, the 11th, accordingly the Ecclesiastical Commissioners'agents, accom- panied by Superintendent Yaughall and twelve policemen, proceeded to Llannefydd, where the same obstruction and violent tactics were pursued, and the party and police, unable to proceed with their business, were, in order to save a conflict, obliged to return to Denbigh. As I explained at our meeting on the 24th June, I felt it my duty to enforce that respect for the law and peace which it is my province to do; and my police force not being sufficiently strong to enforce law and order I called a meeting of the local magistrates, who are the conservators of the peace for the next day (August 12th). At this meeting, the notice being short, the attendance was small, and new notices were issued to all the magistrates of that division to attend again the following day. After hearing the report of Mr. Stevens, Superintendent Vaughan, and myself, I asked the magistrates for a small force of cavalry, which, after con- sideration, they allowed, and I reported the same on the 14th to the Government and the chairman of the County Couucil. On Saturday, 16th August, two officers and forty men of the 10th Hussars arrived at Denbigh Monday, 8th August, parish of Llannefydd, magistrates ac- companying, Colonel Mesham and Captain Cole Tuesday, 19th, parish of Llannefydd, magistrate accompanying, Mr. Millar; Wednesday, 20th, parish of Llansannan, magistrate accompanying, Mr. Williams, of Llewesog; Thursday, 21st, parish of Llansannan, and arrived at Llanfair- talhaiarn camp, magistrate accompanying, Mr. Rogerson. Theie was no tent accommodation for the police, and I had to send them on to Aber- gele to sleep. Friday, 22nd, top end of Llan- sannan parish, magistrate accompanying, Col. Hughes; Saturday, 23rd, returned to Denbigh in consequence of extreme wet weather; Monday, 25th, cleared up, Llannefydd parish, magistrate accompahying, Mr, Millar; Tues- day, 26th, Llansannan and portion of the parish of Llanfairtalhaiarn, magistrate accom- panying, Mr. Windsor Davies; Wednes- day, 27th, the legal time for distraints not having expired, the party did not go out. Thursday, 28th, Llansannan, and finished, magistrate accompanying, Mr; Rogerson; Friday, 29th, cavalry returned to Chester. Although the fact of having again introduced military in aid of the civil power may seem a strong measure, I am fully satisfied it was the proper course to pursue, and in the interest of all concerned a wise and merciful measure. The peace was not broken, which otherwise it would have been, and the state of ferment which occurs during tithe operations so much curtailed. I havethe honourto present some bills for expenses ncurred during these proceedings." Mr Hooson asked was the chairman of the County Council, who was a magistrate of the county, summoned to the meeting. If such had been the case, he wished it to go out to the world that the chief man in the county—which Mr. Gee was, as representative of the County Council, he considered-had not been rlimmoned" The Chief-constable said he did not know. He believed the whole of the magistrates of the county were summoned. Mr. Gee said he was not summoned. He had no hesitation in saying that there was really nothing in the circumstances attending the distraiuts to warrant the appeal to the military. The Chief-constable said that if he had reason to believe that there would be b breach of the peace with which the police force was inadequate to cope with, he should maintain the peace of the county if he had to get the whole of the British army into Denbighshire. They could not possibly have conducted the proceedings, not having the assistance of the military, with- out bloodshed. Captain Griffith failed to see that they could reduce the accounts till they had proved that the charges were exorbitant. Mr. J. C. Edwards ultimately moved an amendment, which Mr. Gee refused to adopt, viz., That the accounts be referred back to Mr. Phillips to see if he cannot make a reduction. Nine voted for and nine against the amendment. The Chairman said he had no hesitation in giving his casting vote for the amendment, which was therefore carried. A bill for X8 7s. 5d. by Mr. J. Parry Jones, magistrates' clerk, for work in connection with the distrainta which he alleged was beyond the extent of his duties,was disallowed on the motion of Mr. Isgoed Jones. Mr. Owen Williams appeared on behalf of 137 of the parishioners of Llannefydd to request that a committee be appointed to ascertain whether there was really any justification for the employ- ment of military in aid of the civil forces in the recent collection of tithe in the neighbourhood. The Chiet constable having reviewed the ttatements made in his report, said that attempts hud been made with small numbers of police to conduct the proceedings of the Iccle- siast;cal Commissioners, but with no avail, and had they further strengthened the party by more police there would undoubtedly have been a repetition of the unfortunate riots which occurred in that county two years previously. Mr. Roberts seconded Mr. O. Williams' propo- sition that a committee of inquiry be appointed. Col. Cole strongly endorsed the Chief- constable's statement that without military aid bloodshed would have been imminent. and read a letter from Col. Mesham to the same effect. Captain Griffith, speaking of the evidence placed before the magistrates on the occasion of the Chief-constable's request for military aid,said that unless the witnesses told gross and deliberate falsehoods it was absolutely necessary. The Chairman emphatically protested against the opening of the old sores by the appointment of a committee. Mr. Thomas Gee contended that the military aid was granted upon the ex parte statement of the police and Ecclesiastical Commissioners, and that the parishioners of Llannefydd who had all but three signed a memorial supporting the institution of such an inquiry, ought to have an opportunity of clearing themselves from the aspersions cast upon them. Upon a vote being taken, eleven supported Mr. Williams's proposition, and nine opposed. The following committee were then appointed, all the magistrates requested to sit upon it re- fused to do so:—Messrs. John Parry, Gee, Sparrow, Williams, and Roberts. Capt. Griffith and other magistrates protested that such a committee had no power to act, and that its deliberations would be to no purpose, but the chairman ruled that a committee could be appointed tc consider any question relative to the control of the police.

THg POLICE SUPERANNUATION FUND. The Chairman announced the receipt of a letter from the Home Office on the 7th October, calling the attention of the police authorities to some of the provisions of the Police Act. 1890. In giving a brief explanation of the piovi.-ions of the new Act, the Chairman said the first duty imposed by the new Act was that of adopting a scale for ordinary pensions, which must be sent in before January 1st. At that hour, he said, they could not attempt to de'11 with that question, which, he suggested, should be dealt with at a special meeting. In the case of existing pensioned officers he further explained they would have to give notice within 14 days of the pension rate being fixed, as to whether they chose to be paid under the new scnle or not. He moved that the clerk of the peace be instructed to procure a copy of the Heme Office circular, and also of the Police Act, and that s-icli be forwarded to every member of the com. mittee, and that a special meeting be held some time next mouth to fix the pension scale within the limits prescribed in the Act. Mr. Gee, in seconding, thanked the chairman for his lucid explanation of the Act, and pro- posed that a scale which had been prepared by Major Leadbetter. showing the maximum and minimum amounts at present allowed, should also be printed and circulated. This was unanimously agreed upon.

FLINTSHIRE. A MEETING of the above committee took place at the County Hall, Mold, on Wednesday, Mr. J. Scott Bankes presiding over a large attendance of magistrates and councillors. VAGRANCY DOWN: DRUNKENNESS UP. The Chief-constable stated that the increase in the cases of drunkenness during the past year was mainly due to the decrease in vagrancy throughout the county; it was general!}' the case that when vagrancy decreased drunken- ness was quite the reverse.—Alderman J. Herbert Lewis asked that seeing drunkenness had in creased, how it was that no cases had been taken against persons for permitting drunken- ness ?-The Chairman stated that it was most difficult for such offences to be proved, and required a great deal of proof.—The Chief-con- stable intimated that he had made out a return showing the convictions in the county during the past year of publicans for supplying drink contrary to law and for drunkenness, and the figures were as follows Permitting drunken- ness, two cases illegal selling, 13.-Alderman J. Herbert Lewis thought it would be no harm to send a strong recommendation to the police requesting them to use every means towards reducing the cases of drunkenness iu the county, and informing them that they had the support of the committee in the matter.—Mr. C. P. Morgan seconded this, and it was agreed to. The Chief-constable stated that lie had made a return of the licenses granted to public-houses that had been vacant six months prior to the application. In Holywell six had been granted, one at Mostyn, two at Melideu, one at Greenfield, one at Rossett.—Alderman Alun Lloyd gave notice that at the next meeting of the Conuty Council he would "ask the Chiet-coustable what opposition was given to the renewals of these licenses, and for what .purposes they had been closed.

CARNARVONSHIRE. A meeting of the Carnarvonshire Standing Joint Committee waa held at the County Hall, Carnarvon, on Thursday. Present: Mr. W. J. Parry (chairman), Mr. D. P. Willioms (chairman of the County Council), Lord Penrhyn, Colonel Piatt, Rev. E. Herber Evans, D.D., Colonel the Hon. W. E. Sackville West, Captain N. P. Stewart, Captain J. W. Wynn. Griffith, Colonel Wynne Finch, Major Priestley, Dr. Taylor Morgan, Dr. Prichard, Messrs. George Farren, Robert Jones, Owen Evans, J. T. Jones, R. W. Griffith, William Roberts, John Jones (Llan- dudno), J. R. Pritchard, W. A. Darbishire, John Hughes, T, C. Lewis, R. Owen Jones, Morris Jones, J. H. Roberts (clerk), and Colonel Ruck (chief-constable).

THE SALARY OF THE CONWAY JUSTICES' CLERK. A letter was received from the Home Secretary on the subject of the salary of the justices' clerk of the Conway Division, request- ing the observations of the committee on a letter received from the clerk (Mr. Porter). Dr. Prichard said he j was one ot those who selected Mr. Porter, who was a sort of partner with the late Mr. William Jones, and the justices of the division, in appointing Mr. Porter, took into consideration the demands of Llandudno. There was a tremendous amount of work there, and Mr. Porter attended there once a week. lIe (Dr. Prichard) was sorry to find that Mr. Porter was the only clerk whose salary had been reduced. Mr. John Jones was at a loss to know what particular argument could have been brought forward by the committee for the course they had adopted. If the committee had decided to make a general reduction, and based the remuneration upon the work done, he should be willing if satisfied that the clerks were over- paid, to support the reduction, but he could not see why the Conway division should be treated differently to the other divisions. The work in the division was increasing every year, and the clerk was obliged to keep an office at Llandudno as well as to pay his travelling expenses, and yet that paltry reduction had been arrived at with the view of doing something (hear, hear). He was very sorryj he could not be present at the last meeting to vote against the decision arrived at. The Chairman said that the question they had to consider was what answer could they give to the Home Secretary. Mr. T. C. Lewis said that the appointment was a new one, and the committee thought it better to reduce the salary with a new appoint- ment. Dr. Prichard asked if he would be in order if he proposed a motion OR the subject. The Chairman replied that he would not unless he had given notice. Mr. Farren suggested that Dr. Prichard should give notice for the next meeting. Dr. Herber Evans really thought it would reflect upon them as a committee if they altered at one meeting what they had passed at another. If they had made a mistake, let them rectify it at the end of the twelve month, but to go and alter it now seemed to him like a child's play. Colonel Platt: We ought to look to the author of the reduction to reply to the Home Secretary. Mr. T. C. Lewis thought that they should certainly not expect Mr. J. Thomas Jones to make the explanation to the Home Secretary. They were all responsible as a committee whose minutes they had confirmed. Mr. John Jones said that it seemed to him that there was a feeling among those gentlemen who supported the matter before that they hardly did what was right, and the only legal way to get out of the difficulty would be to give notice of motion, although Dr. Herber Evans might describe that course as a child's play. The Chairman said that was a question which could come up again after they had decided what answer to give the Home Secretary, Mr. John Jones said he should move that the salary be the same as before, and that no answer be sent in the meantime to the Home Secretary. Colonel Platt moved That the letters of the Home Secretary 'and the clerk of the Conway justices having been fully considered with all facts mentioned before the committee at the time the salary was fixed, and having taken all circumstances into consideration, we are of opinion that the decision is correct and should be supported." Mr. D. P. Williams seconded, and called attention to the fact that Mr. John Jones' motion was irregular, and in consequence Mr. Jones withdrew his proposal. Dr. Prichard asked if he could not move a direct negative, and on being informed that he could he moved that the answer to the Home Secretary be deferred to the next meeting. Captain Stewart seconded. Mr. J. R. Pritchard asked if they could re-open the question of the justices clerks'salaries at the next meeting. If they could do that he should be glad to support Dr. Prichard's motion. Dr. Herber Evans thought they had better let well alone, otherwise they would open the whole question again and bring the other clerks un. Then there would be great discussion, but he did not think it was wise on their part to take that course. The Chairman observed that if the amendment was passed the question could be re-opened. The amendment was then put up, 6 voting for it and 16 for the original motion, which was declared earned. THE POLICE ACT AND THE PENSION SCALR. A circular letter from the Home Office relating to the adoption of a pension scale in pursuance of the Police Act of last session was laid before the committee. The Chief-constable referred to the general provisions of the Act, which gave a constable the right, if be had completed not less than 25 years approved service, and where a limtt of age is prescibed by the pension scale in force under the Act, shall be entitled without a medical certifi- cate to retire and receive pension for life; and if after he has completed 15 years approved service lie is incapacitated for the performance of his duty by infirmity of mind or body, shall be entitled on a medical certificate to retire and receive a pension for life. That committee was required by this Act to adopt a scale for ordinary pensions, and this must be done before the 1st of January, 1891. He (the chief-constable) had drawn out a a table showing the maximum and minimum scale for each grade of pay in the force, and a list of officers superannuated since the establishment of the force. The maximum was E39 7s. 3d., and the minimum L32 13s. Od. There were other matters in the Act which the committee would have to consider, but the only thing for immediate attention was the fixing of this scale, and also whether there would be a limit of age. Colonel Platt: Can you tell me what is the average age of a policeman when ho joins the forJe in this county ? The Chief-constable No but I should say about 22 and 23 years pf age. lu reply to Colonel Piatt, the Chief-constable said lie should recommend the committee to adopt the maximum as the average pension, but he would not recommend any age limit. Mr. D. P. Williams asked if there were any provision in the Act whereby use might be made of the service ot a retired officer. The Chief-constable reported that he was not aware of any. Colonel Platt agreed with the Chief-constable in his recommendations except with regard to the one referring to the age limit. If a man entered the force at 21 and served 25 years, he would only be 4G years of age, and he (Colonel Platt) failed to see why he should be allowed to take a pension at that age if he were in good health. Mr. George Farren seconded that the maximum scale be adopted, and this was agreed to. Colonel Platt moved that- the age be set down at 50 years for constables, and 55 for higher rank officer. Captain Stewart suggested 52 years, and 55 for the higher grade. Colonel Wynne Finch seconded. In reply to Lord Penrhyn. the Chief-constable said it was very exceptional for any of the con- stables to retire on pension before their time was up. The age of 55 years was ultimately un- animously agreed to as the limit for constables, while on the motion of Captain Wynn Griffith, it was decided by a large majority that the age of the officers of higher grade should be GO years. On the motion of Captain Wynn Griffith, seconded by Mr. R. W. Griffith, the other matters mentioned in the Act were referred to a sub-committee which was subsequently appointed as follows:—Captain Stewart. Colonel Piatt, Messrs. T, C. Lewis, George Farren, R, W. Griffith, Captain Wynn Griffith, Messrs. .JulIn Hughes, lJ, I'. Williains, Jobn Jones and J. 11. Pritchard. THE CHIEF-CONSTABLE'S TtEPOItT. The Chief-constable (Coloael Ruck) reuorted that he had the honour to place before the:u the annual statement with regard to the cost of the establishment and the crimes committed. Indictable offences during pastquarter: Reported j 07; apprehended, 18 (three not proceeded with), j committed, 9 discharged, 6 undetected, 20. Larcenies under Summary Jurisdiction Act Repotted, 24 against 22 for corresponding ] quarter last year; apprehended; 30 against 36; convicted, 27 against 34; discharged, o against 2; undetected, 4 against 1. Summary offences Proceeued against, 575 against 540 for same quarter last year; convicted, 5Ul against 472; discharged, 74 against 68. Drunkenness: Men, past quarter, 163 against 142; women, 33 against 3u; total, 196 against 172. It would be seen from the above summary that there had not been any considerable increase or decrease in the number of offences during the year. The value of property stolen during the quarter was £86 17s. 2d., of which £31 18s. 3d. had been recovered. The number of tramps relieved during the quarter was 801 as compared with 10S5 in the same quarter last year. Three publicans had been proceeded against during the quarter, and the three cases were dismissed. Mr. J. R. Pritchard asked if the police had engaged any legal assistance in the three cases which had been brought against publicans. The Chief-constable replied that they had not. as they were not cases which required legal assistance. PAYMENTS OF POLICE RRNTS. A letter was received from the Government Inspector cf Police (Colonel Cobbe) relating to the payment by the police of rents for police houses was produced, and this, together with the application ot Inspector Roberts, of Bangor, for an allowance for cleaning the court after the holding of the municipal meetings, was, on the motion of Mr. Darbishire, seconded by Lord Penrhyn, referred to a sub-committee.—A letter on the same subject from P.S. Williams, Pwllheli, was also referred to this committee. APPLICATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL OFFICER AT LLANDUDNO. A letter was received from Mr. T. T. Marks, C.E., clerk to the Llandudno Improvement Com- missioners, requesting that an additional con- stable be stationed at Llandudno. Replying to a question, the Chief-constable said that there was no doubt Llanduduo was under-policed. Dr. Herber Evans did not see why Llandudno should want a policeman at this time of the year, because bad people did not frequent the place until the summer (laughter). He thought the matter could easily be left over until the summertime. Mr. John Jones referred to the increased population and increased ratable value of Llan- dudno, and said that about 500 men were ex- pected to work at the new station which it was proposed to erect there. Under the circum- stances he thought the cammittee should pro- tect the property of the inhabitants by appointing an additional constable. Mr. R. W. Griffith said that if the Llandudno people wanted to be protected against thieves and robberts there would be some reason for an additional constable, but he hardly thought it right that the committee should be called to appoint a constable to look after pleasure boats (laughter). Mr. John Jones replied that the Llandudno people would pay for a man to look after the boats, but they wanted a policeman to look after their property. Dr. Prichard asked how was Llandudno com- pared with other watering places of its size. The Chief-constable replied that there was no comparison. In Southport and other places, there was a constable for every 9oo of the I population, but in Llandudno there was only a constable for every 2000. Taking into consider- ation the increase in the population he thought there ought to be another policeman stationed there. Mr. George Farren was of opinion that the county was under-policed, and it seemed to him that if they were going to have a number of workmen at the new station, there was good reason for an additional policeman. Mr. John Jones moved that the application be granted. Mr. D. P. Williams pointed out that they could not increase the force, as it would be irregular, but Colonel Ruck could remove a constable from a rural district if that were practicable. The Chairman asked whether the case of Llan- dudno was urgent. The Chief-constable said he would have to keep a man there-he had an extra man there already. Mr. Darbishire moved, Captain Wynn Griffith seconded, aud it was passed that the oubject be discussed at the next meeting of the committee. THE POLICE AND DRUNKEN MEN.—IS DRUNKEN- NICLIS A CRIMIC ? There was also a letter from the Llandudno Commissioners, complaining about the non- apprehension by the police of drunken persons. The Clerk was understood to say that the police had no power to take drunken men up unless they were riotous. Mr. J. R. Pritchard asked if they could get to know what was the law on the matter. The Clerk: You cannot apprehend for drunkenness. It is not a.criminal offence to get drunk (laughter). You can take charge of him. Mr. D. P. Williams thought that the regulations on this point should be perfectly clear, and that the attention of constables should be called especially to publicans who gave people too much drink. He thought this question required serious consideration, and he should like to see Mr. J. R. Pritchard's question, about the instructions given to the poliee, answered. The Chief-constable said the instructions were the same as those in the Police Code, and the practice was that unless the police found the men drunk and incapable, or drunk and dis- orderly, they took 80 notice of them. Captain Wynn Griffith said this would re- open the question with regard to an additional policeman at Llandudno. If excursionists came there, of course, an additional policeman would have to look after them. The Chief-constable remarked that there were some excursionists under the influence'of drink, but not to that extent which would justify the police in taking them into custody. Mr. John Jones expressed himself satisfied I with the discussion. and after the attention of the chief-constable had been called to the matter. TENDERS FOR THE POLICE CLOTHING. On the motion of Mr. J. R. Pritchard, seconded by Dr. Herber Evans, it was decided to advertise for tenders for the supply of the police clothing.

ANGLESEY. The Standing Joint Committee met at Llan- gefni on Thursday afternoon, Mr. Richard Davies (lord-lieutenant of the county) occupying the chair. The Chief-constable (Lieutenant- Colonel W. H. Thomas) read his report for the last quarter, and also for the year. The number of crimes committed during the year was 23 as compared with 16 during the previous year, and 18 persons had been bailed or committed for trial against 22. Respecting offences determined summarily there bad been 507 convictions for crimes against 566, and 186 convictions for drunkenness and drunk and disorderly against 220. Assaults on the police 4 against 12. The number of public-houses in the county was 222, of which 6 had been proceeded against, and 4 convicted. There v. ere also six beerhouses, and three refreshments rooms with wine licenses, and, with the exception of those proceeded against, they had teen well conducted. Colonel Cobbe. her Majesty's Inspector, had called his attention to the Holyhead Police Station, which he considered inadequate for so important a town.—A committee was appointed to make inquiries in various localities as to the rents of the houses of the police where they are not the property of the county, and also with the view of buying them. A letter from the Secretary of State was read with regard to the selection of the place for holding quarter sessions in the county, and he did not interfere with the discretion of the magistrates, but pointed out that accommoda- tion would be required for prisoners awaiting trial. A motion for appointing a committee to con- sider the desirability of removing the quarter sessions and assizes from Beaumaris to LInn- gefni, and to collect particulars and estimates respecting the erection of county buildings, was adjourned. It was decided, with regard to portions of the new Police Act regulating pensions aad gratuities, that the mean between the maximum and the minimum of the scale be adopted for Anglesey, and that 2t per cent. of the wages of the police be deducted towards the same. The salary of the clerk was fixed at £ 350 instead of £200.

Sir Edward Watkin is erecting a mansion on a very beautiful site at Hatod y Llan, Nant Gwynant, Beddgelert. It will consist mostly of iron. It is said that he contemplates making a Ipathway from this place to the top of Snowdon, and to apply for a telegraph office at Bedd- gelert

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COUNTY GOUrOil SEALS.' Br the kind permission or Mr. Morris C. Jones, of Gungro.: llall, Welshpool, we are enabled to present our readers with illustrations of the official seals of the Welah County Councils, together with some interesting particulars con- cerning them. The information was originally collected for that excellent antiquarian society, the Powysland Club, cf which Mr. Jones is the secretary, and has been published in an admir- ably got up pamphlet issued to the members. and procurable also, we believe, by the public. We give lelow a representation of the seals of six of the Welsh counties, arranging them in alphabetical order. Next week, we shall give a further instalment.

1.—ANGLESEY. The seal is circular, and 1| inch in diameter. It contains a shield bearing, Gu, a chevron between three lioncels rampant or, the arms of Hwfa ap Cynddelw, the founder of the first of the fifteen Tribes of North Wales, who was Lord of Llys Llifon, in the county of Anglesey, 1md resided at Presaddfed, in the same county. On a scroll under the shield are the words "Mon mam Cymru" (Mona, the mother of Cambria), and on a garter surrounding the whole are Cynghor Sirol Mon" (Anglesey County Council). The heraldic device on the shield was suggested by Mr. J. Lloyd Griffith, clerk of the peace for Anglesey. The motto, being an old proverb, was proposed by Alderman Thomas Jones, and the legend by Councillor Richard Roberts; and Captain Verney, a mem- ber of the Council, suggested the particular shape in which the shield appears.