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WALES IX PASLIAiim. }! THE COXSTABLSSHIP OL'1 CARNARVON CASTL2, JN the IIou?e of Commons, on Friday, Mr. Lloyd j George (Carnarvon Boroughs) aske-i t;1~ Fu\-t Lord of the Treasury whether, in tilling the ▼acaucy in the constableship of Carnarvon Castle j occasioned by thy death o £ L'»rd Carnarvon, tiie | Government would accede to the s:rong wis!i repeatedly expressed by tbe Town Council of Carnarvon that the appointment sno'ild be con- ferred upon the mayor of tao town tor the time being. Mr. W. II. Smith said tile wish that had been expressed by the Town Council of Carnarvon was receiving careful consideration on the part of the Prime Minister, but her Majesty's ijovernment were not at present in a position to make a statement as to the appointment of a successor to the lata Lord Cnnurvoa. I NT K ?. ? £ ST IX G W E L3 H. Mr. O.dvjrne Morgan asked the Home Secretary whether his attention had been called to a case dacidsd by the justices in petty sessions at Coiwya Bay. on the 5r.h July, in which the defendant was lined Is. and costs, and it WHS sought to include in such cost? a lee of 03. for interpreting the evidence of a Welsh witness, the clerk to the raagistr:ies stating that it was the practice to charge th it fee when the services ot' an interpreter were required whether the magistrates expressed their disapproval of the practice, ou the ground that it was equivalent to punishing a man because the witnesses were Welshmen, and disallowed the charge; and whether, if the practice ho es stated, he could take any steps to Vct a atop to it in future Mr. Stuart Worthy (Under-SecrcUry for liome Affairs) Yes, sir. The Secretary of State has seen the newspaper report, from which he gathers that the facts are its stated in the first and second paragraphs of the light honourable gentleman',? quest-on. The practice wiiich pre- vails in the metropolitan police force is that the cost; of an interpreter whose intervention is necessary to prove h case are piid out of the police court fund. The Secretary of State is now in communication with the jasrices with the view of removing any grievance from which Welsh witnesses may suffer. llSLP FOR WELSH INTERMEDIATE EDUCATION. Replying to Mr. Howard Vincent with regard to the application of the extra taxation of spirits, Mr. Gosclien said that as regarded England, the money set free by the abandonment of the licensing clauses would be ban s. d over to the County Councils with an intimation that possibly the future new powers and expenses weald be cast, upon thorn with regar-i to intermediate, technical, or agricultural edu.vitioo. Ic was very that local j authorities, and especially County Councils, siiuuhi be interested in these questions, but, of cotiV'j, it was impossible to create special machinery at this penodof the session. Such mu: tery, however, did exist in Wal-s and JMo::nithshire, and the Government therefore proposed that there thi money should be used to supplement the half-penny Jrate authorised for intermediate education. Air. Go3chen, iu reply to Mr. A. Acland, said that with regard to England the suggestion as to the application of the money was made so as to let the County Councils know the cah's wouid probably be made upon them, and that the expenditure of tue money this year would be tentative, and not to be stereotyped. As to Wales, the application of the caah for the purposes of intermediate education was not compulsory, WEL31I MEM33R5 k N Deti I E CENSUS BILL. In the House of Commons, on Monday, Mr. Ritchie moved the second reading of the Census (England and Wales) Bill. The subject of the returns to be embraced in the census had, tie heen referred t-, a committee, presiderl over by Mr. Courtney; and, in accordance with their recommendations, a householder \VOu 'd, for the the first time, be required to state whether he ■was employer or employed, or neither, whether he was or was not living on his means, and the number of rooms occupied by his family if under five. The committee had reported, though not ■unanimously, i:i favour of a permanent census office and of a quinquennial census. Looking at the-, cost whicii would bo entailed by these recommendation?, the Government were not recommendation?, the Government were not prepared to at once adopt them. But on the other hand, they were not disposed to reject them. They would carefully consider the matter, and come to a determination upon it long before the time arrived ior taking a quinquennial census. Mr. F. S. Powell expressed his regret that the census did not contain any returns showing the religion of the persons enumerated. Mr. Courtney was sorry that the Government had not at once adopted the suggestions of the committee ever which he presided with resnect to the establishment of a permanent census office, and the taking of a quinquennial census. Mr. S. T. Evans pointed out that the biil did not provide that particulars should be given as to "whether the persons in Wales spoke Welsh only, or WeLb. and English. The Scotch Biil contained the provision that particulars should be given as to whether the people spoke Gaelic only, or Gaelic and English. lie believed it was conceded by everybody that, the Welsh people took a greater interest in their language than th3 English did, and certainly more than the Scotch cr Irish did. Instead of its becoming less spoken, Welsh was spoken more and more ev.v day. He had already communicated with the 0: the Local Govarnment Board on the subject, and he trusted that lie would see his way to' introducing a clause before the bill got into committee providing that the census papers should be printed in Welsh as well as m English. Mr. D. A. Thomas joined in urging that the cens's in Wales should give be number of Welsh -speaking people. Sir 3. J. Keed said the House had liMe con- ception cf the extent to which the Welsh language was spoken in Wales, and in con- seq^suce, when many questions of a political character arose iu which the Welsh people were interested, thev stood at a njsitive disadvantage. When the qu.es tion of Home Rule came to be discussed, many among the Welsh people could not be influenced by the arguments used for or against it. In a to.vn such as lie had the privi- lege of representin); in that House, in con- sequence of the census being taken so long ago as 1831, it did not obtain the representation it was entidel to under the Redistribution Act. lie believed that since 1881 the population of Cardiff had risen to 150,000, and it was believed that within a few years after the forthcunmo- census was taken the town would have a impu- tation of 200,000. During the time of the lie- distribution Act towns with only populations of 5f),000 were allowed to retain their two members, while Cardiff, with a population of 130,000, was represented by only one member, and thus a great deficiency of political represen- tatlou was the result throughout the growing towns of the country. If thay had had a quiu- quencia! census,Cardiff would have been entitled to two members, and he thought it was wrong that towns of rapid industrial development, with their commerce daily enlarging, and their prosperity becoming more emphasised every year, should nor be adequately represented in that House. This was a matter which he could not press on the Government just then, but he hoped that they would give the question he had raised their careful consideration (hear, hear). The debate was continued by other han. gentlemen. Mr. Ritchie gathered that the prevailing opinion was in favour of a quinquennial census, and there could be no doubt that such nn enumeration cught to be conducted by a per- maneiit staff. tie promised to consider the suggestion that in the Welsh census papers there should be a column for a return of Welsh- speaking people. The papers would show the number of foreigners in the United Kingdom, but it would be going too far to call upon the people to state where their fathers and mothers 'Were bora (hear, hear, and laughter). The bill was then read a second time, as also "Ware the Scotch and Irish bills. On Tuesday, the House of Commons went into committee ou the Census (England and Wale--), and a warm discussior arose on a motion by Baroa Diinsdaie that a column be furnished in the returns for a statement of the religion of the person enumerated. Mt. Osborne Morgan said the hon. member for Boston (Mr. Atkinson) had taunted hon. gentle- men si Lting on the Liberal side of the House with having cuanged tlieir opinions on this subject. He wished to remind the hon. member 01 the old saying that he who does n-,t change his opinion is a fool" (laughter, and Ministerial cries of Ca ). JIE assured the committee that he meant no offence whatever to the hon. member, but the saying was a verv old one (renewed laughter). He did not know where the hon. member had obtained his facts as to the attitude of Nonconformists on this question. Judging by his speeches and votes in that JIou?e, he (Mr. Osborne Morgan) would not have suspected him of [being a Nonconformist (hear, hear). He could speak as one who represented a Nonconformist constituency for twenty-two years; and he could tell the com- mittee what the views of his constituency were with reference to a religious census. They did not object to it one bit, so far as Wales was Unearned, because the people there would not be deterred from stating what their rtligiotil was; but what they thought was that injsj England there was so large a number ctjS abseiuer- or peotjie who had 110 religion at||j all, that in case 0: a religious census tl)03e|M people would be most, likely to put themselves^ down as adherents o: the Church of England.^ By that means the public would get a fallacious J| return so far as the actual strength of thej| Church of England was concerned. It was for§| that reason that he opposed the amendments (hear, hear). || Mr. Ritchie said the Government did not feel inclined to put any pressure upon their sup-g porters—(cheers, and cries of Oh, oh ")—in|| reference, to this amendment, although theyai would themselves adiiere to the bill as it stood.|| While lie admitted that there would be advantage in a religious census, he did not !hink|| it would be desirable to adopt it at the risk ofa exciting religious or political feelings whichls might extend to other portions of the Mr. 3. Kendel opposed the amendment. Nonconformists did not fear a religious census ;|S the/ objected to it strougly ou the ground oi|| principle, and wouid make the most protects against the action of the Governmeiitj| (hoar, hear). §3 Some other members having opposed thes amendment, || Mr. Ritchie rose and said—I adhere entirely! to the remarks of the First Lord of the I thiuk it would be most impolitic to adopt the amendment (cheers). j The committee then divided (the Governments tellers telling against the amendment), when there were— H For the amendment G9 m Against 2^3 p Majority against 219 || The amendment was therefore negatived,m amidst loud cheers. n Mr. S. Evans then moved an amendments providing that ia the case of Wales and Mon-ji mouths hire the census returns should contain ag column showing whether the per.->ons enu-S merated spoko Welsh only or both Welsh English. g iir. Ritchie assented to the amendment, which j| was agreed to. §1 Clause 5 was then agreed to, as were also the other clauses of the bill, with the exception of s clause IS, which was postponed. S In the House of Commons, on Wednesday, the Welsh Intermediate Education Act Amendments Biil was withdrawn. H FISHING IN THE CLWYD. 1 In tho House of Commons, on Thursday, Mr. Roberts asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he was aware that Major Rowlaya Couwy, who was a member of the Board of Conservators of the Rivers Clwyd and Elwy, | had caused large stones to be placed ia that part j of the river Clwyd known as the Junction Pool, which was admittedly tidal and navigable, so as to prevent the netting of it by licensed fisher-la aien whether he was aware that criminal pro- ceedings had twice been taken by him against the fishermen for netting, and that on both! occasionsthe justices considered their juriadtctions to be ousted by a bona-tide claim of right; and whether the Board of Trade would in the interests of the navigation of the river and of the fishermen take step3 to cause these stones to be removed. 1 Sir M. II. Beach replied that he was informed that the matter referred to in the question was| before the superior courts, but even if it were! otherwise, as Junction Pool was not either navigable or tidal, the Board of Trade had no power to interfere with it. 1 PETITION FROM CON WA f GUARDIAX3. On Thursday, Mr. Rathbone presented a petition in favour of the Maintenance of Destitute Parents Bill from the select vestry of| Liverpool and from the guardians of the Conway Union. § TITE TITHES BILL. g In the House of Lords, on Thursday, the Marquis of Salisbury said he could not make the| re-introduction of the Tithe Bill subject to the! completion of the atattatics for which Lord Brabourne asked, because, even if they were easily obtained, the time between this and November would not be sufficient to enable them to be collected with any certainty. |

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