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CARMARTHENSHIRE EDUCATION COMMITTEE "PERSONAL INTEREST" v. "PUBLIC RIGIIT." A meeting of rhe Carmarthenshire Education Committee was held at the County Offices. Carmar- then, on Thursday in last week, Mr. David Evans, Manordaf. presiding. There were also present Mrs. Gwvnne-Hughes, Tregeyb: Mr. Mervyn Peel. Dan- yrallt; Ir. N. Jones, Ammanford; Col. Morris, Ammanford: the Rev. Win Davies, Llanelly; the Rev. Dr. Jones, Capel Als. Llanelly; Mr. W. J. Thomas. Llanarthney; Mr. Herbert Thomas, Hendy; Mr. Bowen. Kidwelly: Mr. Phillips, St. Clears; Professor D. E. Jones. Carmarthen; the Rev. B. Hmphrey". Felinfoel; Rev. R. H. Jones. Llangen- deirne; Mr. John Lloyd. Penybank: Mr Benjamin Evans Pencader: Mr. David Davies. Rhjblid Mi. J Ll. Thomas. Tanylan: Mr. John Lewis. Ieiros Hall" Mr. David Williams. Llanybyther: Mr. H. Jones, Llanelly; and Mr. H. Jones-Thomas Pen- rhos; together with the clerk (Mr. J. W. Nicholas), the education clerk (Mr. Gaunt), the education trea- surer (Mr Pearce). the superintendent attendance officer (Mr. Joseph Morgan), and the county archi- tect (Mr. W. Vincent Morgan). QUESTION OF GARNANT SCHOOL SITE. With regard to the proposed new school at Garnant, Mr. Bishop, Lord Dynevor's agent, wrote saying that his lordship saw no reason to change his with regard to the second site which he had offeied the Committee, as he thought it the best and most satisfactory in the locality. The Clerk said that Lord Dvnevor had offered to give the Committee a ite free of all charges, but had subsequently with- drawn his first offer and substituted another site. Col. Morris said the feeling in the locality about these sites was very strong. The residents of the locality wished to have the first site and had held a public'meeting, at which feeling was intense, and at which they had decided to have nothing but the first S1Mr. W. N. Jones said that that was so, and that the meeting had recommended the committee in the event of Lord Dynevor continuing his refusal, to applv for compulsory powers. In reply to Professor Jones as to the objection to tl\eoSieCMorris^id that it was considered to be too TSSTt one of the reason, for building new school to relieve ihe alroaay '.vcr flowing National School at Garnant, in view of the iap d increase of the industrial district. He proposed that thev accept Lord Dynevor's offer. They had also to take into consideration the fact that in tie nea future all the schools would be on an equal and if thev by compulsory powers secured the first site thev would make the National School at Oai- nant of absolutely no use in the future They would want in the future, when all the schools were on the same footing, buildings or sites J schools that were overcrowded, and the\ ^re dancer of losing this National School as if th let ft go now it would in all probability be sold an they would never be able to get it again. Col Morris did not think it wise to do anything that dav If thev did the people of the place would £ up in arms and would make the local member, lives unbearable (laughter). He suggested that th matter be referred back to the public meeting, and that thev trv and arrive at a settlement. fr. Phillips seconded this motion, which was carried. SCHOOL CLOSED WITHOUT NOTIC The Board of Education wrote saying that on the Ms without notice having been gi^en to Board had decided » reduce ■M S sa'nt that heated hav.ng o,„,«te<i ,o Thehl°2T*a, left in the hands of the Clerk to the Committee. THE BORDER CHILDREN AGAIN. With regard to the long-standing complaint as to the inadequacy of the accommodation for the Border children at Llanelly, the Board of Education wrote tha.t it wa!! imperative that something should im- mediately be done in the matter, and unless an ar- rangement cou.d be come t r^oceed to Urban Authority the committee must r^oc l, i'j school at Furnace. Merv'vn Peel-Is there not sufBcienr accom.n^ now? Is it absolutely necessary to pat the cferlfexpTained6 that as soon as the «« completed with Mr. C. radey Castle, for the Purchase of a new school would be proceeded with. be worked smoothlv without. 1£ they built a school noW they might have to enlarge in a few yeais. This suggestion was adopted. WELSH UNIVERSITY'S MUNIFICENCE. The Finance Co™U.«.« "Cniversity of \Vales wrote saying that tbey were prepared to pay the travelling expenses of the students at- tending the dairy classes (hear, hear). EXCESSIVE COAL CONSUMPTION. The Chairman drew ^ntionjf to the questwn of the q y thg returns the various school which were a thev would nna some u=> „„d in their disturbing. The amount of coal consumed 10 theIr 160 schools, which were aml he did not children, was someth n0 advisable to start a know whether it would <1 a lighter) In studying small colliery of their fhat certain the figures he was surp coa[ pro rata schools and dJtr^Scr ^^ools and districts. The than other and nraoticallv Is. 3d. per average cost per eh1 d. w P vear, and the cliild. or something like ~m lb^ y€t L.e amount of coal consul 1 gum'c(j twice, and noticed that some ac-.i as much as others, sometimes nearly thr e f th returns He went on .o « "used great deal m support.of Im »ta^ LIandlv a„d Am- is »hoo.s .or s1: as the figures were inordinately hi0h. Tt was elicited that the matter was being discussed b, the ^horougUy .VtKUr.' <0rU%T veSu.ll, "ecided to refer the matter to explanations of the matter. "FALSE ECONOMY. The Board of Education having requested that immediate steps be taken to remedy the overcrowd- ing at LJechyfedach, mnsider the advisa- The committee appointed to consider bilitv of proceeding with the erection of a new mixed school at Tumble, recommended the election of a school to accommodate 300 ch'khen. & Mr Peel questioned the necessity ot => We school just at present, He suggested that t would be enough if after buying the sue they buJ an infants' school, leaving room to enlaige in the future if needed. He was of the opinion that it they built a large new school at present they would take a great many away from Llechyfedach and Ure- ?&Mr ^V°°N. Jones thought they would be doing Tight in adopting the advice of the committee, tte thought it would be false economy to build a school for 200 now if they would have to extend so a to take 300 in the near future. He hoped there would be no hesitation in adopting the recommendation of the committee. The district was a fast-giowinB collierv district, and Llechyfedach school w_ould soon be full, even after the erection of a new school, Sa°s a new c^Hery had just been started ,urt betow the school, and houses were going up fast all over t^Mi\ W. B. Jones proposed the adoption of the re- P°M- W J Thomas, who seconded, said that all the people who were against the school two years ago were now in favour of it. A BREEZY DISCUSSION. A committee appointed to revise the sauries of the clerks to ilie local managers recommended that notices be given to the clerks terminating then existing engagements, and that they be re-engaged at salaries Computed on the following basis viz £ 12 per -roup, with £ 1 in addition for each school comp^d in die group, or if a school contains two or more separate departments, £ 1 for each depart- ment. In the event of a clerk not desiring;to be reappointed, it was recommended that the po~t be advertised. It was computed that if the C oramrttee pay the clerks the appointed compensation, the total annual saving in salaries would amount to £ 182 15Mr.5Ben Evans, a member of the s^c°^m\ttee, recommended that the report be adopted. The cler s were greatly overpaid, and he had not. heard a single argument in the sub-committe to war™" £ tion of the proposal. It had been said that if they arlonted this scheme they would be acting unfairly in taking away the main source of livelihood of these clerks, but he denied this, as the clerks did not give one-twelfth of their time to the work. Mr. Phillips, who seconded, was strongly in one-twelfth of their time to the work. Mr. Phillips. who seconded, was strongly in favour of the proposal. Mr. W. B. Jones opposed the motion, and pro- posed that the matter be adjourned sine die. The only question to consider was whether the clerks were doing their work properly or not. If they were not. let them be dismissed. Rather than go back on an honourable bargain made with these clerks he would dismiss them. The committee had nothing to gain by employing cheap labour. They could get plenty of clerks, but what they wanted was clerks who could do the large amount of work connected with the schools. He thought the com- mittee were receiving ample satisfaction for the salaries paid. One clerk had told him that sooner than have his salary reduced by a penny-niece he would resign and then with the; compensation lie would get he would be better off than lie was now. The speaker thought the committee should retain these clerks' services. That committee was looked upon as being an honourable one, and was looked up to as doing right between man and man, and if they were going to act dishonourably towards their officials they would not be doing the right thing for a committee like that (applause). Mr. Mervvn Peel seconded Mr. Jones' proposition. If they had made ft mistake in continuing these clerks in their positions at the old salaries it was only honourable to keep them on and to abide by the rule when any office became vacant (applause). Mr. W. J. Thomas said he tried to deal wifh public matters as he would with his private affairs, and he thought the clerks were excessively overpaid: one or two of the clerks had admitted as much to him ("Xame them then.") Mr. W. B. Jones did not like to hear one class ot officer pitted against another. His sympathies were with the clerks, as he knew- a great deal about .he work. The Rev. R. H. Jones, Llangendeirne, said Mat it was all very well to be bounteous at the expense of the ratepayers. Personal interest was being pitted against public right ("Withdraw that"). The members of the sub-committee were all honourable men and would not have recommended a thing that was not right.. Ir. W. N. Jones said that at the meeting of the sub-committee he had moved an amendment to ti e motion to try and effect a compromise, but it was not adopted. He had looked into the figures and found that if they dismissed these clerks they would have to pay them compensation and would thus not gain much, while they would be getting rid of old -a and tried servants. It was a question of the amount of work which these men did. One member had spoken of the way in which he carried on public business as he would his private affairs, but the speaker thought that if any of them had a clerk or a servant whom they thought of dismissing, as honour- able men they would keep him on until they could do something better for him (applause). Mr. Phillips suggested that if they in making the recommendation had been dishonourable, Mr. W. N. Jones, by suggesting a compromise, had been equ- ally as dishonourable. Mr. Ben Evans appealed to them in voting to do what was right, and to leave friendship and senti- ment alone. That was all very weli in their private affairs, but not in their public business. The Chairman, as a member of the sub-committee, thought he should speak on the matter. The sub- committee could find no defence for the disproportionate payments to the clerks, and they had made a recommendation to tile committee. If they did not like it they could leave it alone, but to say it was dis- honourable was not right. On a division, the amendment to adjourn the matter sine die was carried by 12 votes to nine, the result being received with loud applause. SCHOLARSHIPS AWARDS. With regard to the award of agricultural scholar- ships, Mr. Peel proposed that as Carmarthen Onion formed one-third of the whole county, Carmarthen should have three. Llandovery and Llanelly two, and the rest one apiece. A motion by Mr. John Lloyd (Peny-liank) was, however, agreed to, and the scholarships were awarded as follows:— Carmarthen nion Wm. J. Davies, Penrallt, Trelech, Llanfyrnach (14 votes): Vincent Davies, Park Gwyn, Kidwelly (16): and J. Rees, Corn- Bledrig, tTlansawel (15); Tom James, Rhydyffynnon, Llandebie (22). Llandilo-fawr Union—Evan O. Davies. Llether Isaf, Llagfjdock (14); Thomas Thomas, Llwynfron. Llandovery Union.—Thos. E. Evans, Glasalltgafr, Mydrim, St. Clears (14). Llanddeusant, Llangadock (16). Lampeter Union—T. Davies, TycanoU Llany- crwys, Pumpsaint, Llanwrda. Llanellv Cnion—D. J. Roberts, Pantyryn, Llannon; W. Thomas, Oakfield, Llanedy, Pontardulais.. Short Course Scholarships in Educational Hand- work, etc., Barry, 1910. Carmarthen Union.—Miss Matilda Jones, head teacher, Pantteg Council School. Llandilo-fawr Union.—Miss J. A. Callard, head teacher, Parcvrhun Council Infants' School. Llandovery Union.—Miss W. Owens, head teacher, Blaentwrch Council School. Narberth Union.—Miss Myfanwv Evans, uncerti- ficated assistant, Llanglydwen Council School. Llanelly Union.—Miss Gertrude 0. Jones, uncerti- ficated assistant, Felinfoel Council (Mixed) School. Newtastle-Emlvn Union.—Miss Sarah Jane Wil- liams, headteacher, Capel Mair C. of E. School, Llangeler. Ambulance Classes (6). The following were the awards:— Carmarthen Union.—Llangendeirne Parish Council. Llandilo-fawr l., nion.-Llanegwad Parish Council. Llandovery Union. -Llanddeusant Parish Council. Narberth Union.—Cilymaenllwyd Parish Council. Llanelly Union.—The Managers, Llanelly Union Group 3. Newcastle-Emlyn Union.—Penboyr Parish Council. Sick Nursing Classes (6). Carmarthen Union-Llangunnock Parish Council. Llandilo-fawr Union Llangathen Parish Council and Llandebie Parish Council. Llandovery Union. -LlanOdeusant. Parish Council. Narberth Union.—Whitland Mothers' Union (per Mrs. A. L. Jones, The Vicarage, Whitland) Teaching Appointments. Blaenau Council School: Certificated headmaster. The voting rested between Morris Jones, Llan- glydwen Council School, Clynderwen (30); Evan Jones Roberts, Idole Council School, near Carmar- then (40). and Win. Thomas, Cartref, Llansawel, Llandilo (41). -Mr. Thomas was, however, ultimately ^Llandovery Council School (Infant Department). Certificated head mistress: salary, B70 per annum.- It was decided to readvertise the appointment. Cwmamman C. of E. School (mixed department): Certificated assistant mistress: salary, E75 per annum, if trained, JB70 if untrained. Margaret E. Cocks. 23 Bridge-street, Carmarthen. Llangennech C. of E. School: Female uncertificated assistant: salary JE52 10s. per annum Mary E. Evans, Llansawel Council School. Llandilo Glasfrvn Council School: Supplementary teacher; salarv, JE50 per annum.-Hett. Williams, Glasfryn Farm, St. Clears. This was all the business of interest.

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