The Carmarthen Journal and South Wales Weekly Advertiser

MEETING AT CARDIGAN. RADICAL ORGANISED TACTICS FRUSTRATED. SATISFACTORY RESULTS. On Saturday evening, Mr William Jones held I meeting at the Cardigan Guildhall. It beiug a busy evening, it was thought that the audience would be sparse, but such was not the case as the spacious hall was crowded to overflowing. It r 1 1 1 r A Liberal club has been started lately at Cardi gan, and it has been wormed out of some of the members that the youthful members (they art initiated at the age of 15 years) had been organised to raise a disturbance, interrupt the speakers, it-a,: at different intervals sing a song composed specialty for the occasion. BIt all their effort8 were utterly frustrated of course, there was a little noise, but just enough to rouse the Unionists and supporters of Mr Jones present, aud make then, sholv that their superior strength was not to be ignored. Air Thomas Harries, Llechryd, ascended tht- platform as large as life to move a vote ef confi- dence in Mr Bowen Rowlands, but he had counted without his host the leader of the- opposition wa- dnmbfounded at the rebuff he received from those present, and had to swallow his resolution and resume his seat. The resolution he held in his baud was in the handwriting ofa vrell-kiiown Radical solicitor of the distrit, showing how well the opposition had laid their plans so thoroughly overthrown. Mr J. C. Roberts, the local corres- ponden of the South Wals Daily JYews, the report in which print, by the way, is entirely misleading, stood up in a look-at-me-I-am-here kind of way, and giuffly asked something to Mr Jones, but that gentleman refused to listen to him. He then turned to the audience and spluttered something, bat they would not hear him, and no one under- stood what the aspiriug correspondent was alluding to even his neighbour failed to hear him yet in .the bouth Wales Daily News for Monday he has his question (which takes up nearly as much room as the rest ef the report) published in full. What d. the people of Cardigan think about this ? We know. The chair was occupied by Mr C. Moro-an Richardson, of Noyaddwilym, and Air William Jones was supported on the platform by the Rev. Janes ifunter, Presbyterian minister, FSelfast aad Mr Henry R. Dauiel, soliictor. They iven- greeted with loud cheers, and a good hiss from the lambs" in the gallery. The Chairman, in opening the proceedings, said 9 11 they were there that evening for the purpose of hearing Air William Jones, the Unionist caudidate for the county, express his views on political and Other questions. He did not for one moment expect that all in the room agreed with Mr Jones in politics, but ho hop-d they would give him a fair and patient hearing (hear, hear). They did not propose to pass a resolution one way or the other—not because they were afraid of any opposi- tion, bat because they considered it premature to Jo so until Parliament had dissolved. Mr Jones came there thtt right simply to be introduced tll them. He was tolu that they were to expect a deal ot opposition, but he did not believe it as Cardigan people were made out of quite different stuff to Aberystwyth p w,,ple -(cheers) -and whatever their differences of opinion might be they always ha- their ears tiekled with a good speech: for that reason he knew they were going to be silem and listen (hear, hear). Mr Jones had been selected by the Unionist party. An attempt han been made by a few local Gladstonians to identify Air Jones with the Tories, but he was in a position to giva most unqualified contradiction to the state ment. He was one of those who formed the party of Liberal Unionists, who took upon themselves t, nil 1 a candidate to contest the seat ao-aingt Mi Bowen R mlands (cheers and hisses). When thes invited Mr Joaes to come forward, he accepted th. invitation with great reluctance, and only con- sented to do so at last for the sake of his devotion to the Uaion. He had been described as the Tory candidate. No greater mistake could possible have been made. It was quite true they had the promise of Conservative support, but he said all honour to them for giving that promise, because they were going to vote for a man who was pre- pared to propose everything that was most anta- gonistic to their principles and interests, girnpJ) on account of their patriotism and their determina- tion that these dominions shou d not be divided (oheeis). The Uuionists felt that in spite otthen being separated from the main body of the Liberal party they were still true to the true Liberal prin ciples (hear, hear). They maintained that they held the same tenets as the Liberal party had from the passing of the Reform Bill to 1885 (hear hear, and dissension). The difference in 1885 ivit, caused by the introduction of the Home Rule Bill by Mr Gla, lstolle ( He had a great admira- tiou for the Grand Old man (Voice He has lost his head), No, he was not off hi* head, but he had made a great mistake for once. He would refc them for the strongest arguments against H line ltule to the speeches of Air Gladstone him self delivered previous to 18S5, when he change his mind on the Irish question. Ttiey must admi they owed a debt of gratitude to the Libera Unionists, because the measure in 1886 was radi cally wrong in many respects. Gladstonians them- selves now admitted it was a inistiko to exclude Irish members from Parliament, and to cnaige the customs and excise to buy out the lush .audlords. Had it not been fo; the determined opposition of the Liberal Unionist, tnat Bi l would have passed th.ough both House- of Parliament. A gentleman had told him 1 think we might give the Irish Home Rule by way of expenment, —by way of experiment? To change a vita part of the constitution by way of experi- ment? Monstrous What would they think of a motion to suspend the Habeas Corpus Act or to dismantle Gibraltar by way of experiment (cheers) What would they think of him if he was to ignite a cask of dynamite under that hall by way of ex penment ? (laughter and cheers). If at all, it must be done once and for all once done it could not be undone. It cost a deal of blood to secuiv the union in 17Us; it would cost ton times more blood to "'eVCl' it NJW (hear, hear). The population of Ireland was about -1,700,000 and at least 1,500,000 people were opposed to a Home Rule Bill of any kind. The wealth of the country was increasing under the present rule and the hated Balfour had become one of the most popular men in the west ot Ireland (applause). What were the statistics?—in 1885 they weie I,05G cases of agrarian outrages in Ireland there had been a steady decrease of at least 100 a year, and last year there were only 456 as compared with 1,056 cases six years ago. Take the cases of boycott i ug-there were in 1886 nearly 5,000 cases, but on the 31st ef December last there was not Ono case of boycotting throughout the whole island (applause). Now, what the Unionists' substitute fcr the Home Rule Bill ? It was that Local Government Bill—-tdat large and equitable measure passed with such a large majority throuffb the House ot Commons (cheers). There were many reasons why Mr Bowen Rowlands, who was a Pembrokeshire gentleman, ought not to repre- sent them in Parliament. He was a lawyer, and there were a hundred at least too many lawyers in the House of Commons at present. Mr Rowlands was not a Welshniiin, and could not speak a word of Welsh. lie beiieved n knowledge of the W-lsh language was almost essential to a member of Parliament of the present day. Again, Mr Bowen Rowlands was a member of the Church of England, and he believed that in a county like Gardigansnire, in which the Nonconformists numbered the Conformists in the r itio of four to one he believed that all other things being equal the county ought to be represented by a Noncen- formiat (loud cheers). Not only was Mr Rowlands not a Nonconformist, but he was a one time a clergyman of the Church of England. What interest did Mr bowen Rowlands take in the county ? A short time ago they had a very brilliant heriug at Cardigan to which members iroua all parts of the principality flocked. But where was their Liberal member? Heou^btto have been there as a host to welcome the people hear, hear, and dissent). He was not there; he sLDply sent a telegram (voiced: We were satisfie. ¥Oll were not satisfied at the time. Again he bad read that Mr Rowlands had tikenja house at Criccieth. (I here was a little interruption at this point, during which Mr Stephens, solicitor, explained the absence of Mr Bowen Rowlands at Cu-digan I ederahon meeting by stating that his wife was very ill at the time). The chairman, eontinuiug, said that as a .contrast Mr William Jones was a man of the people, a Nonconformist, a thorough Welshman, a man able to speak and wri'ethe Welsh language, and they would get a taste of that if they liked presently. Better still he was a Cardiganshire man, and would pay special attention to the needs of the county. Vter f,. v other remarks the chairman caiU l upon Mie candidate. Mr William Jones, who w is cordi lUy r s-vived, after inviting those in the back of t*i < h J! t -> mi the few vacant seats below the platform, --ai l h.> was very pleased to see a large. iufeiiig< nt, and influential meeting there that evening. [: contrasted very well with the meeting at Abery; vyth on the previous oveiiin4 which »va <, if anything, a little too enthusiastic (near, Iieir, and laughter). Thero was a large number of young boys there who had no vote-! (V-MCL,: same j here''). Well, there might i)p, btit the meeting | was a credit to Cardigan If th?y would allow J him, he would express his views on the various subjects that would come prominen Iy bafore tbair notice during the next three or f vir weeks. It was the first opportunity he had had or addressing them he was not going to abuse his opponent, nor going to call anybody hard names, and ho hoped those who disagreed with his viows wouM ¡ extend the same courteous feeling to him (hear, hear). He had been called very bad and bad names, but he freely forgave all who had so far forgotten themselves (cheers). Things would happen at election times, and candidates must be prepared for a little buffeting, but he wished to fight fair, and was going to fight to the last with- out abusing one of his opponents (loud cheers). He hoped that those of them who read the Gladstonian papers did not take for gospel everything that appeared in the political and editorial eolumn*. Somehow or other the gentlemen who supplied those columns seemed to be inconsistent and suffering from a common aomplaint — they were very quick to see a mote in their brother's eye, bat could not see that they had beam in their own eye (hear, hear). In ISSi) they very suddenly changod their coats they were Unionists up to ISSC), and from that time they had very persistent- ly called the present Unionists turncoats. He bad been a Liberal all his lifetiln,) he was a Liberal srili-kapplause and cries of No ")-and perhaps a better Liberal than before He believed in the old Liberal principles, an 1 he had helped, in his humble way, to carry out the authorised pro- gramme of 1885 (cheers). They would agree with him that most beneficial measures had been carried out by the Unionist Government during the lact; six years. It was a well-known fact-and he did not wish to disguise it,-th-tt. they worked with the Conservaties every politician knew it. In 1885 the greater portion of the Liberal party joined hands with the Parnellites, but he was one of those who used similar words to those of the late John Bright—that he would sooner join hands with Lord Salisbury and his colleagues, than with Parnell and his followers, who were the leaders of the Irish rebellion (enthusiastic cheering). He hoped the Unionists would continue to work with the Conservatives with the same good results that had been achieved during the six years (hear, j hear). The Gladstonian press was very fond of calling them Tories, bat, it would be quite as consistent for the Unionists to call the Gtadston- ians rebels because they joined hands with the rebels and enemies of Great Britain before the Unionists allied themselves with the Conservative party (hear, hear, and dissent). Those Gladstonian writers would have them believe that all principles belonged to them, and seemed to arrogate to themselves the patent right to pass all beneficial Acts of Parliament, and that the wicked Tories must steal the patent out of the Gladstonian medicine chest before they could pos- iibly pass 11, satisfactory measure (laughter). They would have the people believe they had some kind of patent remedy for every political evil from which they suffered, and sometimes they lifted the lid of their medicine chest for the Unionists to see pills and powders they bad (loud laughter). If they looked they would find such labels as "One man one vote," "Triennial Parliaments," Direct Veto, and so on, but if all those things were passed, th jy most not believe that the millennium had come (hear, hear). What had influenced him very greatly to come out, and be a candidate in that contest was the stirring appeal which had oeen made to them, the Nonconformists in Wales, by their brethren in Ireland (loud cheers). He was it Alorriston abou t 12 months ago at t he Calvinist ic VIetbodist general assembly—Gymanfa Gy/fredhiol (-i-ies of "Welsh Air Jones.") Mr William Jones then addressed the audience in fluent, colloquial A elsh, saying that at the Morriston assembly, two Irish Pre byterian ministers made a strong appeal to the Methodists on behalf of the Protestants in Ireland, who were in number ne irly as ii-iiiny iis there were Welshmen in %Vttles. They described fhe bad feeling that existed towards them by the Runan Catholics—the Presbyterians could not. walk the streets with the Bible in their hauds, aud read it if the Catholics in the district were strong enough to stop them (shame). There were scattered in the west and south of Ireland, several little groups of Protestants, and they were dealt vith very harshly by the Catholics- If the Pro- testants havs no day school in the parish they have to send their children to the Catholic schools, but the Catholic children would not sit on the same seat (Shame). He did not sty that the Catholics were worse now than they used to be, but it was a part of their creed to look upon all who disagreed with their religion as heretics, md the scum of the earth. The Methodists or Wales were fighting against the Romm Catholics in Wales, by establishing anti-Catholic, elemen- tary schools they sent their missionaries to Brittany to try and convert the Catholics to Pro- testantism the Roman Catholics and Jesuits were fighting the Methodists in India on the lvasaio Rill,, yet they, the C-tlvinigtic Methodists were on the same side as the Catholics in Ireland, and against their own co-religionists (hear, hear). They could never be greater inconsistency (" This is clot a religious meeting.") I carry my religion with me to wherevev I go and it, is a question of religious freedom that is to be decided by the next Parliament (cheers). If the Citholic parliament were established in Ireland, the Protestant* solemnly stated that they would be compelled to ight or flee the country. He was ready to give a chance to his fellow-countymen in Cardiganshire to say on which side they would vote—whether for the Itoman Catholics or for their fellow c)- religionists (hear, hear). It was said that the Nonconformists of Wales were ready to sacrifice L I, million Protestants for the sake of getting dis- es ablishment. Were they ready to pay such a price for it?("No"). H ,v is glad to hear them say so that was the question they would have to ieeide at the coming elec ion. Oae of the Welsh papers within the iast fortnight said that MrClad- ct me was not going to g-ivo dioestllblishment. to Wales, but that the Welsh members were going to f uce him to give it. v ery soon the members I v,) u 1,1 go to Mr Gladstone and explain that they would not support his Home Rule Bill unless he pteiged himself to disestablishment. Were they ready to sacrifice and betray their brethren in that way (' No.') Would it not be better for them to wait some three or four years longer, when it would surely ome without having to pay such a price for it (hear, hear). They were sure to have disestablishment it was a matter of right (cheers). Why not take patience so as to save trouble and dissension? Another reason why he came out as a candidate was his wish to do some good to his u itive country (hear, hear). He loved his country and his mother tongue, n,nd he firmly believed he could do some good for the Cardis (Voice Good old Cardi and cheers). There were many things taey weie in want of, and they had not half the goodmea.sures the Irishman had. the Irish hid had a go m, comprehensive Land Bill g-ivea them, and it would be well if Cardiganshire farmers could reap even half tho benefits Irish tenants gained under that Bill (hear, hear). He was willing to give the Irish every fair play to grant them local government — local government more thorough than they had in \Vrale3, but he was agiinst. them having a separate executive parliament in Ireland—{hear, bear; — which would briug them into continual opposition with the English Parliament. It would be a weapon pit in'.o their hauis to injure themselves, If they were going to give Ireland the power to pass laws, how were they g jing to prevent the Irish members from passing measures that would be antagonistic to the interests of Great Britain ? (hear, hear). Mr Gladstone himself in 1886, said that it was beyond the wit of man to devise a scheme to keep the Irish members and British Parliament and at the same time grant the establishment of a Irish Parliament in Dubliu (cheers). That, was n m-eat reason why he Wit" against Home Rule. [One of the audience interrupted with a question, but Mr Jones said he would be most pleased to answer any questions put to him xt the end of the meeting]. There were many things be should like to see passed for the benefit of Wales and Cardiganshire especially. He wanted the Land Laws amended in favour of the tenant farmers, he wished the landlord to have power to sell land without going to the heavy and unnecessary expenditure now required in the transfer of land which the lawyers pocketed 1 (laughter). The wording of the laws of the land ought also to be so simplified as to enable a man like himself to understand and explain them thoroughly instead of havlllg to get the advice of solicitors, who very often disagreed in their inter- pretations of the law. Again, there were millions of pounds worth of fish about their shores; tie would like to sea his fellow-countrymen earning J their livelihood and bringing money to the district j in that way. The Government had given | thousands of pounds to Ireland to assist fishermen I) Pl"):!l" fi;;bing b'Ja.:8 !lId nets; piers and bar- b been erected by Government, and why slio Id the Welshman not be blessed with ■ similar benetks (cheers). Why should Cardigan- I shire oe ennpellod to leave the county and a-j to underground in Glaaiirg inshire ? Why should the population of Cardiganshire have deereaased by 7,500 duviug the last 10 years? Toeir industries were not guarded. If he was returned t,) represent Cardiganshire—(loud cheers ma counter cheers, enlivened with a song that h id been studied carefully by the lambs of the Liberal Club)-if he was returned to represent them he would pay special attention to Cardigan- shire (hear, hear). It was said at Aberystwyth on the previous evening that the cause of Mr Bowen Rowlands must be very bad indeed before it required such organised noise and support (cheers ind hisses). It seeuied as if the other side were in *;(!iug and afraid of hearing the truth. Power -houl l be given for labourers to secure allotments which would enable them to keep at home the many millions they now paid to foreign countries for produce (hear, hear). But the great, all- abs orbing quest ion at present was Is it one parliament or more that is to exist ia the British Isles? He had determined to come out in order to give a chance to the people to answer it. What ■fat it to be on or two parliaments? (loud cries of One,") He was very glad to hoar them say so. !Ie would impress upon them once more that if they voted for Mr Bowen Rowlands they would be supporting the Roman Catholics if they were going to defend their co-redgionists, their fellow- Noacoaformists in Irelan 1, they would vote for the Unionist candidate (loud cheers and counter cheers, duriug which Air Jones resumed his seat). The Chairman then introduced the Rev James Hunter, of Belfast, to the meeting, and appealed to give him a patient hearing. The Rev. James Hunter, who, on rising, was well received by the audience, scad he was there representing l,20.),i)t)0 ot their co-religionists in Ireland—close upon the whole population of Wales. He was there not simply representing his own denomination, which was the Presbyterian Church, and almost. the same as the Calvinistic Methodist Church in Wales; but he was also representing the Episcopalians aud the Wesleyans, and the Bipiists aud the Unitarians—in short, the whole Protestant body in Ireland, who were barring a very few, all of the same opinion on that Irish question (hear, hear). If a Homan Catholic priest cnnie among them they would listen to a statement of his grievances and he appealed to them to hear that night the sentiments held in common by the whole body of the Protestant people | ia Ireland (hear, hear). It was frequently asked whether they had religious equality in Ireland. Lie believed that they had religious equality even to a greater ex'.eut than tbey had in W-,iles, for the meeting that occurred at Aberystwyth on the pre ceding evening could not have occurred at Belfast A quarter only of the population of Belfast were I Roman Catholics still they held grand Nationalist meetings and demonstrations, and it was only now and again that they were interfered with (hear, hear), lhey in Ireland had religious equality something beyond what existed in Wales. What the Pope of Rome generously said of English rule applied to Ireland in the fullest sense. He said England is just, and, therefore, liberal. She is strong, and ill tbe Catholics under her rule have greater liberty and freedom than they have in any other part of the wodd." Iu respect to the north of Ireland it had beeu slid to him more than once lately "Look at. your municipal offices, you have not a single Romau Catholic m them. How is that ? The answer was, would tlwy expect bim, a Protestant minister, to vote for a Roman Citholic, when a broiher Protestant was in the field ? (cries of No ). Why, then, did they blame the people of Belfast for putting into municipal p(- offices men of their own faith (near, near). With three or four exceptions there was scarcely a wealthy Roman Catholic in Belfast, the vast m ijority of the public houses there were with the Catholics, and the reason they returned Protestants to the olliies was because they were in sympathy with the majority of the people and they had the wealth of the city (hear, hear), Theu as to the south of Ireland—in Wales they could hold evangelistic services through the length and breadth of the couutry, but not so in the south of Ireland. Rev. Mr Hallowps, of Arklow, had been endeavouriug Sunday by Sunday for months to hold services in the South, but he had been mobbed and interrupted by the Catholics. He admitted that there were in Belfast, but with them be did not -vmpathisa. All his relatives were Liberals—«)0 p-i, cent of the Preoyte 'ian ministers were Liberals, had followed Mr Gladstone in the teeth of opposition from their own Church, and had voted for disestab- lishment in Ireland (lu-ar, hear). There were members of his congregation who subscribed not a penny piece to their Sustentation Fund because the Presbyterians voted for disestablishment. They were not Tories. Would they listen to the fo.lowing opinion of a Nation ilist member of Par- liament on the interference of ihe Irish priesthood with civil and religious lil,)(,i,tv Mr Pierce Mahony, speaking in reply to Mr Dillon, said Does he approve of the conduct of the priest who, in the neighbourhood of Cclstlecomer, on the Sunday before the polling, when Dr. Mullen and Air Baker attended mass in his church, from the steps of the altar slid to thij congregation 'rtiere are two of Mr Parnell's friends in the church, and you will know how to deal with them outside?* D ),s te approve of the recent threat of a priest in Millingar to ruin the lousiness of Protestant traders of the town because of their political opinions ,J" And so on, iustancing case after case of similar bare-faced intolerance. He would ask them to look at another thing as to the Roman Catholic priesthood which occurred the other day. The Roman Catholic Bishop of Down and Connor wrote to the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children asking that his name be eliminated from the list of supporters of the society. And what was the reason? They had all heard of Airs Ai mtague's case -she was a Roman Catholic lady, a pervert, and that case was the cause of the Bishop's resolve, lie wrote to the society as follo,vs In yourraport the society, by lacerating the character of the wife and mother, manifested a and disregard of the feeliugs of the husband and children, and has indicted 011 them gratuitous and tIll III ritled pilin." Because, forsooth, this lady I belongs to the orthodox faith she must not be held up to public reprobation for the manslaughter of her child. Did they nnall to say that had Airs Montague been a Protestant he would have with- drawn his name from the society's list (cries of "No"). There were many reasons why they should be afraid of the Catholics. In Wales the children were educated on an undenominational basis; they eould be educated in the tenets of their fathers, aud the conscientious rights of no people were interfered with. But the Roman Catholic Church would not have such schools, Why? Because their religion was not through and through the curriculum, because they were not wholly denominational, and the Catholics would not accept the Bill now before the Govern- meut, though the Government offered them £ 20J,000._ And why? Because tbe Christian Brothers' schools were left unendowed. A Christian Brother was a Roman Catholic, who woald not hold one single penny of money, but gave !iis whole wealth and services to the Church, and tha Raman Catholics weie insisting that those Christian Brothers' schools should be endo wed by tha Government. Why, every penny of the money would go to the Church (hear, hear). Again, the Protestants observed the Lord's Day, but.' the Romau Catholics believed that at 12 o'clock, when ma.is was over, the Lord's Day was over, aud then they had their sports aud entertainments. Very often a priest went from the altar and presided at a political meeting, and the Land League meetings wsre almost invaiiably held on the Lord's Day ("Shame"). The services of the Protestants in certaiu localties were interrupted by the noises of excursionists who Hocked on Sunday to Protestant districts. Iu Roman Catholic countries on the Continent the elections were sometimes held on the Lord's Day, and in France, as he was informed, the elections always took place on Sundays. There was not one word in Mr Gladstone's Home Rule Bill to prevent such a monstrous tiling becoming law in Ire/and. The Protestants were determined to make a firm stand with regard to that question, In reference to persecution, they (the Presby- terians) had been persecuted by the Episcopalians in Ireland, for on the door of a Church in which a brother minister of his taught, was an inscription relating to the first miuister expelled by a truop of dragoons, but the Episcopalians now regretted all Protestants now deplored the persecutions of the past (bear, hear). On the con- trary, could they find one word of regret on the part of the Roman Catholics for Catholic persecu- tion in the past (" No "). No. Perhaps they would not accept his statement, he asked them to believe what the Roman Catholic Church said about itself. It believed in the doctrine of dovelop- ment, and the infallibility of the Pope, and there were changes in our day, but it never abrogated any article of its creed. Among the pledges a Roman Catholic :r>ok upon becoming a priest of that Church—aud which corresponded with the pledge^, ministers m i'; when ordained—was this —as given in the Po.itijlyde Rom-muni "Heretics, schismatics, and rebels to our said Lord, oi ins aforesaid successors. I will to my utmost power I persecute aud wage war with." That was in plain j black and wiiite in three different places in the Pontificate Rora-xnum. In 1813, there was published in Ireland one of the few Roman Catholic B.oles Pontificate Rora-xnum. In 1813, there was published in Ireland one of the few Roman Catholic B.oles with notes otiltlie passages, approved of by the Bishops That 13ibl raised a great stir, and protests were Made against its publication, as it was said it would obstruct the carrying of Catholic emancipation. This ai/notated Bible taught in plain words, again aud a^ain tiiat h -raties were, so far as possible, to be shimnei and persecuted, and, if need be, to be put to death. He asked them to receive the statement of the Roman Oathohc Journal :It l},;tJ1JJ1-U.!è The FI'ee¡d'1" Journal, which was a secnbir paper under Room a Catholic management. Here were som ■ of the words that appeared :—"We contend that fiegood government of Ireland by Engiand is impossible, not so much by reason of natural obstacles, b it be- cause of an obstacle no human ingenuity can re- move or overcome. It is that one people (the Irish) is Christain, aud the other (the English) uon-cbristian the oue animated by a super- natural principle, the other by a natural. There is between the two orders an incompatibility, not only antagonistic, but destructive. They cannot freely co-exist in the same society. They may be present, but it must be, not as equals, but in sub- jection, and domination; not in peace but in con- flict." Those were not his own words; and had rbey then not a right to be afraid of Roman Catholics (Cries of "Yes" and dissension). Mr Gladstone had said in the House of Commons that the days of persecution were over. Was that so? ("No" and Yes"). No. The contest between truth and error was getting more severe and intense year by year, and it was not a teaching of Jbristiauity that persecution would be done away with. Mr Parneli had s.iid Shun the breaker of the League laws in the street, shun him ii the narket place, shun him in the place of worship," but tha Protestant teaching was If tuine enemy hunger, feed him if he thirst o-jve him drink" (loud cheers). What was going ou in Uguauda now ? The Catholics had instigated the converted M'Wauga there to oppose and crush Protestant efforts to plant, the truth of the Gospel in that 1 country. But, you will say, Air Gladstone's Bill forbade the establishment of the Roman Catholic religion. Ivell, tilp clause of it-(vol*ces The Bill is dead," and that was the old Bill,") I —well then the 19th clause of the old Biil says- tnd when the new Bill comes out see that you examine it (laughter). —"Notwithstanding that the Irish Legislature ii prohibited by this Act from making laws relating to certaiu subjects, th&t Legislature may, with the assent of Her Majesty in Council first obtained, appropriate any part of the Irish public revenue, or any tax, duty or impost imposed by such Legislature for the purpose of, or iu connexion with Bueu >;ubji"cts," [f Air Gladstone desired absolutely and for ever to prohibit the endowment of the lio nan C itholic religion,why hive addJd this 19th clause. with the assent of her Majesty is the Council first ib^ained," This assent was accorded year? ago under Mr Gladstoue to the endowment of tne Roman Catholic Sjuiinary of Miynoolh. With how much greater ease under a Parliament of the r own will the Irish people obtain her Majesty's assent to the endowment of their religion? But another quejiiou forces itself to the front. Were they prepared to give them a separate Parliament in North East Ulstsr, for they were there as dis- inct from the rest of Irehnd as Welshmen were. The people of Ulster were of English and Scotch origin the people of Wales were Celtic or Kyn.ric and so far nearer in kinship to the inhibitunts of the rest of Ireland. The Ulster people declared -,h;it th y woald st ty, an i they wished to stay to the en 1,"with them in Wales aud Scotland, under the Imperial Parliament (cheers). What the Ulster people wished to tell them wai expressed in scripture: "Entreat me not to leave thee; for ■vhither thou goest 1 will go and where thou lodgest I will lodge thy people shall be my peo- ple, aad thy Gjd my G od where thou diest, will [ die, and there will I be buried the Lord do so to me and more also, if ought, but death part thee and me. (cheers) The Parliament of England had as little right to throw over the people of LTisfer, if those peoole wished to stay, than it had to hand over an unwilling Heligoland to Germany (hear, hean \ud, if Parliament said-. "You must go over," then the people of U.ster would gather together and take their stond (loud cheers). At the Convention to be held on Friday next, they would pass resolutions to the effect that" they would have nothing to do with" an Irish Parliament established in Dublin (hear, hear). At the time of the declaration of American Independence, the people of England said the people there would not resist, but what did Burke i reply? Referring to the Irish Presbyterians i —and it was an Irish Presbyterian, General I Montgomery, who first fell in the war—Burke said: \Ve caunot falsify the pedigre of this fierce people, and persuade them that they are no' sprung from a nation in whose views the blood of freedom circulates." e ire lez;t the uislitke which the EIlisl1 people committed in doubting the resistance of the Irish Presbyterium iu America, they are again committing in trying- to laugh down the protests of the same race on their native soil. Then, would they coerce the Protestants who had the same spirit in them still? That was the alternative if they established a Parliament in Dublin. If so-he said it in all solemnity—the Protestants would take their-land and fight (Voice: "Well done, Ulster," aud I cheers). He was going to be one of those who on j Friday next, please God, would join at the opening of the Ulster Convention in siug-ing and he trusted it would be to one of the old tunes heard in the glensand highlands of Scotland- God is Q'ir refuge and our strength In straits a preseut aid, Therefore, although the earth remove We will not be afraid." Air Thomas Harries, Llechryd, got up on the platform presumably to pass a vote of confidence in Mr Bowen Rowlands, but the audience understood his design he was most heartily hissed and hooted down. The llev. John Williams, Bethania, appealed to the audience to keep quiet, but the "lambs" would not be pacified for some time. He bad a full answer to everything stated, hat night. I r3 Air William Jones, who had a mixed reception, then moved a vote of thanks to the chairman, and in doiug so quoted from the Tyst a'r dyad a passage to the iMTect that any miuisters who would support him would be spotted (shame and dissent). Some people said he had entered that contest because he was self-seeking. He did 'not look a proud man and those who knew him bast knew he WI. not self-seeking (hear, hear). He bad come out in sympathy with his fellow people in Cardiganshire and his fellow religionists in Ireland, aud cost what it may iu comfort aud circumstances—if it cost him his very life he would fight to the very last (loud cheers). He was a successor to the late Air David Davies, of Llandinam, and if he fell iu the struggle there were others that would follow hiiii in the The local correspondent of the Il'tdes Daily News got up and tried to say something which was qaoe .in ineligible to all, and afterwards tiio meeting teiminated. j On Sunday, Mr Joiies attended the t1 Chapel and took the -mior class in t he attrru 'on school -and, by pressing request, questioned tbe j school on a pwuc." The Rev. James Hunter preached at the Hope Euglish Congregational Chapel in tiie evening. ENTHUSIASTIC MEETING AT NEW CA Y. ENCOURAGING SIGNS Ou Alauday evening Mr William .Jones Leie a meetin at the Old Schoolroom, New Quny, 'I'l i o commodious room was crowded with an eutbusias tic and intelligent audience of adults. Dr. Evans occupied tbe chair, and the candidate was sup- ported on the platform by the Rev James .Joi:<-?; Colvinistic Alethodist minister, Tanyroea • the Kev James Hunter, Belfast, and about two dozen influential residents of the town. Before and after the meeting Mr William Jones walked tbiough the charming little seaport and was most cordially received by the inhabitants, who spelli t I be thorough Unionists, and ready at any price to maintain the unity of the Empire. ire. At eight o'clock- t be Chairman opened the pro- ceedings by explaining the object of the and welcoming the candidate and Mr lftintel- tc, their midst. They had been governed for the last five or six years by a Government that had given very fair satisfaction to the whole coeutrv — tbey had had peace during that. period, many beneficial measures had been passed, and Ireland had baen so managed that peace, instead of rebellion, reigned even there (cheers). Seven years ag >, 11 when the Liberal Government was in office, ani I I Mr David Davies, Llandinam, represented the county, things were not so satisfactory—they were disappointed in that Parliament, and wars were experienced in many countries in which Britain was involved. They had very high taxes at that time, I as much as Jilna.OUO.ttjO of revenue being expended annually. The people expected many measures for the country, but they were uot passed, the excuse being Parliamentary obstruction. How- ever, at the next election the Liberals were again returned to power, and they expected great things of Gladstone, but that gentleman made an announcement which threw the country into a state of great excitement, and surprised the people greatly. He brought forward the Home Rule Bill, Int the country would not have it (hear, hear). At the last election the two pirties in the county very equal, the late Air Davies being only thrown out by nine votes. It was not to be wondered at, then, tliat the unionists felt again dispose.! to guage the feeling of the couuty, and chat All Jones—(lond cheers)—had been invited and had accepted the invitation to contest the seat (iiear, hear). There was a gentleman present from lieiaud to tell them what the Nonconformists and C ouformists of Ireland thoaght of Home Rule. Ho hoped every speaker would be accorded a fair hearing. Mr Wna. Jones, who received quite an ovation, said he wished all in the room had votes, as he felt from the expression of their faces that they would record them in favour of the Unionist candi- date (hear, bear, and laughter). He came before them in a new character; six months ago he had not dreamed of becoming a candidate for Parlia- mentary honours. It had been thrown in his face that he was proud, self-seeking, and ambitious (laughter). He pleaded guilty of being ambitious -not for tii,nself, but for his own county, which he wished to serve, and ambitious to leave the world a little better than he found it (cheers). He did not believe that during the last few years he had paid all his attention to himself; he had paid some little attention to others who were less for- tunate in the world's goods. The Gladstonian friends were evidently a little afraid of him, and the cause of Mr Bowen Rowlands must be in a deplorable state, because his opponents were fight- ing unfairly. They were losing their tempers ,u,gbter)-and at A bervstwyth the members of the Junior Radical Club, drilled by Air Peter Jones —(hisses)—he believed, and others, had "refused the s peakers a hearing, presumably because they were afraid of hearing the other side of the ques- tion (" Shame "). The Rev Mr Hunter had come specially from Belfast to convey the views of their fellow Nonconformists in Ireland, but they refused to hear him, the ministers of Wales as much as saying that the Irish ministers did not know tbe sentiments of their own people, and that they in Wales understood the case better than the Irish themselves (hear, hear, and laughter). Then, Mr I o»ell NViliiatiis, 1.P. for South Birmingham, one of the pillars of true Liberalism for the last 20 years, aud one ot John Bright's school, had come t) Aber.st vyih, b ,t had to return without having ai opovuiuuity to speak ('Shame"). They at yi, e ry different in manners, if they disagreed with the speakers he was certain they would give toc-m a respectful hearing (hear, bear). Speaking in the vernacular, Air Jones after referring to his being a man of the people having b -en born in a. thatched cottage, said be felt very strongly on the Irish question both in its religious aid political aspect. An appeal had been sent to ei-cry Nonconformist- minister in Great Britain by he whole Protestant body in Ireland, and be could not understand how eish Nonconformists could set that appeal aside. The Irish Nonconformists held been the most Liberal of Liberals throughout the ages and had supported Mr Gladstone in all his measures until Le brought up the Home Rule Bill and joined the Parnellites. Then the X onCOll- formists conscientiously turned their backs on him (near, hear). He was willing to give Ireland a broad local government, but not an executive parliament which would be able to make its own laws. Such a step would be but a baginning to the fall of this vast Empire; their possessions would be alienated and the Empire would meet the same fate as Rome and Greece (cheers). The Irish wanted to be placed in the same position as Canada with power to establish an army. Would tbev help the Irish to acquire such a power? (No), They wanted to frame their own land la ws-Mr (jladstone was always talking of putting trust in the people, but in the IS SO Bill he would not trust the i;i!ill Luvs in their hands. Mr Gladstone proposed buying out the Irish landlords which would cost abo t = £ 150,000,000 and the British Parliament ] then be the landlord of all the Irish tenants. l'ue Irish members were not to be represented ia trie British Parliament, but now Mr Gladstone wished the Irish members to have a Parliament of i oeir own and also to have representation at the Parliament at Westminster (daughter). The whole thing was absurd. He was supporting Protestantism as against Catholicism, its greatest enemy (hear, hear). The question had not been put clearly before thepeople; the Gladstonian papers published but one side (Voice. That bad been pre- arranged). He believed it was pre-arranged. He was one of the many who had come as nearly as to worshipping Mr Gladstone, but the Grand Old Alan was not infallible and this was one of the greatest mistakes he had ever committed. Why should Ireland be continually receiving bene- fit from Government when Wales was out in the cold. This Government bad given Ireland £ 33,000.000 to help the tenants to buy land and under Lord Ashbourne's Act, tbey bad had ^10,000,000 tw;ce before and as a consequence about 15,000 small tenants bad bought lands for themselves. 1 hose people, now in possession of land they might call their own, would have noiuiug to do with agitators and bad devoted them- selves to their legitimate work. Ireland had of late years been dealt with princely. 280 miles of light railways bad been erected in Ire- land (" We want a Balfour in Cardiganshire too) At auy rate they ought to have fight rail- ways in Cardiganshire say, for instance, one from New Quay to Llandyssul (hear, hear) Then again money had been advanced to the Irish to enable the spa-faring classes to procure boats and nets and to build pieis. Why should not an effort b made to secure such benefits for Wales? (applause). If he had the experience and gsio of Mr Bowen Rowlands be wouid have drawn up half-a-dozen Bills lor tbe amelioration of the condition of bis constituents—(loud cheers) instead of a lot of blabber at election times. True, Air Rowlands had voted, but a boy of sixteen could manage that. Mr Jones then dealt very dfectively on the question of leasehold enfranchisement. There were a hundred too many lawyers in the House of Commons—it paid them to make the law as unintelligible as possible (.aughter). Every man ought to be able to ititeipiet an Act himself. He loved his country, tiis people, his tongue, and he did not wish the stain to be placed on them that they placed a rope round the neck of their Irish co-religionists in order to gain their own ends (loud cheers). The disestablishment of the church would become an accomplished fact, but such a price be would not p foi is, and he uad come forward to give them an opportunity of giving their opinion. ° Let the opposition in certain parts of the constituency be what it may, he would fight to the end (loud c-lieei-s). The Rev Jam.•> Hunter, who was loudly cheered, aid he had ventured to think that, living in Ireland, ht, w\luld he able to say something ion the Irish question, but at Aberystwyth he w, as much as told that he knew nothing about it (laughter). Hewasnot afogfyofaTory:)))-kith and kin were Liberals and in the time of open voting his father lust a number of hi.- customers owing to the vote he gave for the Liberal cause (hear, heart He was one of 1 .('.7o minister* who declared against Home Rule he was one of ttie Irish ministers who had \xted for disestablishment, and he always hked to be in tbe fr. mt f„v civi] ;ind nj]i lou, liberty (cheers). He came there mamlv to speak on the religious aspect of the Home Rule question as laid nut in the appeal which had I,.en circulated through- out (.reat Britain oy tne Irish Nonconformists, but perhaps many of them had not seen it as the Mi^stoman pap-r- had not published it (shame). To Protestants had reason to be afraid, lie -aid that Roman Catholics were afraid of themselves, an proved by a di.raeeful scene that had taken place ]. aiid at the directors' tlf t)Le I't,, where the Catholics called each other rogues, trick-iters, and worse names. ) Ireland was mis-represented in Parliament for ohe out of every four and a half voters were illiterates and the priests filled the ballot papers fur the voters according to his own way of thinking (shame). The prie-ts also acted as personation agents at the booth-. A<»ain in the matter uf education, several villages bad only Catholic schools and the Protestant.- had tu send their children to those schools which were filled with Catholic Inures and image-, and they Mould be imbued. With the daik doctrines of Panacv p wa- ea!ldal(lm; th.at tlJl' fill(] ftillt their boveottin- ai.d\V-Iritn r^ ?0pe T* ettVctiv elv. |t°t.; .■ ;V "1Ine ,u. td'e sister isle m. -t n U11111K to eoetvuuL ho said thut tin- "lie" ai-' t!" 'aw °? eoer:-ion, in Ireland, was no p t!; \Keotch l;lv'tl> reduce crime. It wa- a ''| ~ll "1 thin--when the diminution of crime v' 'T ('a,H eoeicion (cheers'. The rev. gentleman ei.Oed |Us ,,f .j-, miimtes duration, by quoting | tiie story of tie Russian gentleman who wheii travelling