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CARMARTHEN TOWN COUNCIL, I

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CARMARTHEN TOWN COUNCIL, I A half-quarterly meeting of the Town Council waa held at the Town Hall, on Tuesday, when there were present-The Mayor (Mr T. Jenkins), Aldermen C W Jones and R W Richards, and Councillors Howell Howells, D Parcell Rees, Talbot Norton. Henry Cadle, D E Williams, Daniel Jones, W R Edwards, Walter Lloyd, James Davies, J T Lewis, D T Lloyd, and J Lewis (Johnstown). THE RETENTION OF THE MILITIA. The Mayor said the first thing they had to con- sider was, Questions to the Mayor and officials." Had anyone anything to say thereon?—Mr Walter Lloyd: I should like to ask if anything has been done to prevent the militia going from here. They had been in the habit, during the past four or five years, of going to Fort Popton for the annual train- ing. According to the Broad Arrow for the 27th ult., the application for the retention of the militia by a Town Council has had effect. The paper I refer to alludes to the Mid-Ulster Artillery (Southern Division, R.A.), and say: rhe place of training of this brigade has been altered in con- sequence of a memorial which the Secretary of War received from the Town Council of Dungam- mon cn the subject. It will be held as usual at Dungammon, and the gun practice at Greenore." I therefore propose that a deputation wait upon the Secretary of War with a view to induce him to issue an order for the training of the Carmarthen Militia here. It would be a great boon to the townspeople as well as to the wives and families of the militiamen themselves. As the "old hands" are not ordered to leave here till the 7th May, we hare seven weeks in which to get a reply from the authorities.—Mr D E Williams: Perhaps they have guns at Dungammon.—Mr Lloyd: Thayliave guns also at Carmarthen, as seen from the copy of tho ordnance, &c.—Mr James Davies: When an application was formerly made by us it was refused. -Mr Walter Lloyd: I do not think that applica- tion was made through a personal deputation; was it ?-The Mayor: No, it was by letter. There is no doubt it is very desirable to carry out your sug- gestion.—Mr Walter Lloyd It is a great matter for the business people of thq town.—Mayor: Well, will anyone second your proposal ?-Mr.D P Rees and Mr Howell Howells simultaneously replied in the affirmative, the latter observing: I thing we should be ready to do anything that will bring about an increase of business in the town.- The Mayor: Will Mr Lloyd tell us who is going to bear the deputation's expenses.—Mr Walter Lloyd The ratepayers, I should say. I do not think any- body will object to that.—Mi* Talbot Norton.- I don't think they will.—Mr James Davies That would depend upon the total amount of money the deputation would spend.—Mr Talbot Norton: Ob, we should have every confidence in them.—Mr W Lloyd I should be willing to subscribe my mite.— Mr James Davies I would rather see the expenses defrayed by subscription than saddle the ratepayers with that burden.—The Town Clerk lu the past two years not only have applications been made by letter to the War authorities, but personal inter- vention has been made to them, but without effect. —The Mayor: Do you believe that the waiting upon the Secretary of State for War by a deputa- tion would have any effect ?-Town Clerk I don't. -).Ir Talbot Norton Don't you think you could back it up by having two of the members of Pailia- ment on the deputation ?—Mr Walter Lloyd: Yes, and I would mention Mr Lloyd Morgan.—The Mayor It would be no use mentioning Sir Arthur Stepney, as he is not in the country. You could also ask Mr Abel Thomas.—Mr Walter Lloyd If you do not get your application, you will be none the worse off.-Mr D E Williams: No doubt there is nothing like agitation if you want a matter carried oat.—Mr Talbot Norton Capt. Brown told me that the Town Coancil had to agitate for the new ordnance. If they agitated they would be likeiy to get it, but they would not if they remained quiet.—The Town Clerk: You did not remain quiet last year, nor the year before.—Mr Talbot Norton I rather like Mr Lloyd's suggestion about a deputation.—The Mayor said he would be willing to act, aa did also Alderman Jones.—The Mayor (to Mr Lloyd): Will you add the two names of the members of Parliament to the list of the deputation ?—Mr Walter Lloyd With pleasure, it that falls in with Mr Howell's view.—Mr Howells It certainly does.-Alderman C W Jones said the matter might first of all be opened by carrespon- denoe, so that every arrangement could bq made for meeting the Secretary of War. Of course that matter might very well be left in the hands of the Mayor and Town Clerk (hear, hear).—The motion was then agreed to. THI NAVIGATION OF THE RIVER. In reply te Mr D T Lloyd, the Mayor said X70 had been put down in the estimates for the better navigation of the river.— Mr D T Lloyd: Why not raise the A50 that was voted last year.—The Mayor thought before that question could be entertained due notice thereof must be given.—Mr James Davies: I hope the steamship owners will contribute a good deal The Mayor could not allow a discussion then, as it was entirely out of order. WHEN THE CLOUDS ROLL By. Alderman Jones-When does the town stirveyor purpose setting about the very much required im- provement in Picton-place ?-The Surveyor: As soon as the weather breaks up.—Aid. Jones May I take that to be next week ? That is rather an evasive answer.-The Surveyor We can do noth- ing in this weather, sir, say the first week in next month. THE MAYOR'S ROBBS. Mr Lewis (Johnstown): May I aFk when we are to see our Mayor in his robes ?— Thw Mayor I am sorry to say that I quite forgot the matter. I will try and remember them next time we have to meet; but I understood i hat they were to be worn at quarterly meetings. This is a half-quarterly meeting is it not ?—The Town Clerk: Yes.-Ald. Jones. And I also understood that you would wear yo-ir robes at petty sessions, to keep the heat away from you when you are sitting near the fire (laughter). BUTTER, CHEESE, AND DOGS. The Market Committee also met on the 15th inst. Recommended (1) that permission be criven to the Horticultural Society for the use of the pro- vision market on the 26th July, for holding a flower show and promenade concert; (2), that per- mission be given for the same place for holding a dog show on the 28th of that month (3), that the application of Henry Lewis, butcher, for Jeave to put a fire-place in his stall in the provision market be granted; and (4), that the slaughter house keeper's house be cemented as sooa as possible Alderman Jones I propose that the dog show be not held in the provision market. I think that it is very disgusting that dogs should be where butter and cheese are sold.—Aid. Richards aod Mr Walter Lloyd simultaneously seconded.—Mr W R Edwards Does not the surveyor lay plenty of saw duet before the show is held ? Ald. Jones And disinfect the place afterwards.—Mr Talbot Norton All those precautions are taken. The Mayor: Where were the doga placed last year ? The Surveyor: wnere the toys are general'y sold, and where the weavers sold their goods.—Aid. Jones Where not the dogs placed last year where the butter had been sold ? The Surveyor No that was stopped. Ald. Jones: I don't wish to press my motion, Mr Mayor. The Mayor: Ob, it is immaterial to me. But we are now told that the provision market is not used for the dog show.- A.ld. Jones But the whole of the market is called a provision market in contradistinction to the cattle market. Aid. Richards The dogs used to be in the oattle market years ago.- The Mayor: When the town clerk writes to Mr Burgess the secretary of the show, granting the permission sought, he might tell him that the permission-is given on condition that no dogs are placed where the provisions are usually put on market days.- Eventually, on the motion of Mr Parcell Rees 11 seconded by Mr Daniel Jones, the market com- mittee's report was adopted. The report of the public works committee of the 19th ult, the details of which have already been published in these columns, was also adopted.—The Mayor We have now to consider the borough, general district, and water rates. As you all know we met last week and arranged these matters. They only want confirming. The Town Clerk: The rates agreed upon at the last meeting were: Borough, 6d water, 6d for domestic and 8d for manufacturing purposes; and general district, 2s 3d in gross they came to 38 3d as against 3s Id in the X last year. Mr Parcell Reea proposed, and Ald. Richards seconded the confirmation of these rates, and the proposal was unanimously agreed to. THE LIGHTING OT THE TOWN. The Mayor-We have now to consider the ques- tion relative to the lighting of the town. Have you, Mr Town Clerk, received any reply from the Gas Company to the resolution which we passed at a previous meeting ?—The Town Clerk Yes, I wrote to the Gas Company and told them that the Town Council were prepaid to light, according to the schedule submitted by the Gas Company, if iat discount, were 4a 6d per 1,000 feet, less 5 per cent discount, were charged—the same price as last year; and further, that if a higher price were insisted upon by the Gas Company the hours of lighting would be reduced. The Chairman of the Gas Company I wrote back as follows :—" Gas Works, Carmarthen, March 12th, 1892.—To R M Thomas, Esq, Town Clerk, Carmarthen—Dear Sir,—The Directors of the Carmarthen Gas Company considered the communication from the Town Council, dated the 29th ult., as to the price of gas for the current year. The price was raised to the private con- sumers last year 6d per cubic foot, which enabled the Gas Company to pay a dividend for the year ended 31st December last of between 4 and 5 per cent. only. The advance in price was to continue during the very high price of coal. The Gas Company are glad to say that some of tho coals now supplied to them are at a slightly cheaper rate. They now give notice that on and from the 31st instant they will reduce the price to the private consumers to 4s lOd, and to the Town Council to 4s 6d per thousand feet net. I ana, dear sir, yours faith- fully, CHARLES WILLIAM JONES, chairman.— The Mayor: That does not mean exactly what we ask for. Roughly speaking, we should be paying X20 more than we paid before.—Mr James Davies: Coal is very dear, Mr Mayor, now. I need not tell you that, Mr Mayor, because you use more than I do.-M,r D E Williams: Why should gas be dearer at Carmarthen than anywhere else?—MrT Norton: And have you recently become a shareholder of the Company, Mr Davies ? (laughter). It appears that we have a new champion of the company (renewed laughter).—The Mayor: You know what we made up our minds to do at the last meeting. We resolved, if they would not let us have the gas at 4s 6d, less discount, to extinguish every alternate lamp at 12 o'clock midnight.—Aid. Jones: May I ask the surveyor, who has been to Llanelly, to state what they charge there?—The Mayor: Yes. —The Surveyor: They charge £ 3 lOa and £ 3 15s per lamp.-The Mayor: But how much per 1,000 feet?—The Surveyor: They charge so much per lamp.—The Mayor How much do they charge private consumers?—The Surveyor: 48 2d per 1,000. In reply to further queries by other mem ber3, he said that the Llauelly Gas Company was a private concern, and that Mr Wm. Thomas was the chairman.—Mr Walter Lloyd: I beg to propose that we adhere to the old schedule.—Mr Howell Howells: To be consistent, I second that.—Mr T Norton I move that we adhere to the resolution come to at the previous meeting.—The Mayor: The Gas Company has met us.—Mr Talbot Norton: But not as we desired.—Mr W R Edwards: Wr have the public to protest, and therefore I second Mr Norton.—Mr D E Williams And I will sup port him.—We can effect a great saving, and besides, they have not met us as we asked them to —Alderman Jones I think you are splitting hairs after the explanation that baa been given. -Mr T Norton X20 is not much for a rich body like the Gas Company.—Alderman Jones It is nut richer than the Corporation of Carmarthen, seeing that the company could only last y- ar pay a divi- dend of between 4 and 5 per cent.—Mr W R Edwards: But we have Llanelly as a giiide.-Mi- D E Williams: I don't think Mr Charles Jones ought to be allowed to argue this question, seeing that he is a large gas shareholder.—The Mayor: I gave him permission to speak.-&Iderman Jones: I'll leave the room if you like. (Voices: "Cer- tainly not.") I only wish to be straightforward.— In reply to queries, the Mayor said they would be saving .£100 by putting out every alternate lamp at midnight.—Eventually Mr Norton's amend- in I cl ment was lost by the casting vote of the Mayor. A contract in accordance with the terms contained in the Gas Company's letter will, therefore, be entered into. THE SALE OF COAL. The Council agreed to enforce bye-laws regulat- ing the sale of coal under the Weights and Measures Act, lS89.-In reply to a member, the Superintendent of Police said the town machine was an excellent machine. THE BURIAL BOARD.—AN IMPORTANT SCHEME. The Mayor-The next business is to consider the question of taking over the property and duties of the Burial Board. This is a motion, I believe, of MrW Lloyd.—The Town Clerk: At the last meeting Mr Lloyd asked about the rights of the Town Council to take over this property. The Act of Parliament says that when the district of a burial board is included in or coterminous with thl" authority, the Burial Board may, with the agree- ment of the vestry, transfer to the urban authority their rights & powers, and the urban authority shal then act as a burial board from that time out, so that the initiative ought, apparently, to come from the vestry, and the Town Council had no power without the concurrence of theveatry with the burial board to have these matters taken over.—Ulti- mately it was decided that a committee, consisting of Messrs W R Edwards, W Lloyd, Howell Howells, E A Rogers, J Lewis (Johnstown), and Daniel Jones, be appointed to consider the question and report thereon to the Council. THE MARKET TOLLS. Mr C H Portnell, lessee of the market, addressed the following letter to the corporation 10, Monk-street, Monmouth, February 5th, 1892. To the Mayor, Aldermen, and Councilmen of the County of Borough of Carmarthen. Gentlemen,— I beg to ask you to make me an allowance from the rents I have paid you for your market tolls for the last two years. I was induced to make you an excessive offer, hoping to have a good agricultural and fruit season and a good year of London pig trade. I hardly need tell you that in each of these instances the trade fell flat. You are all, gentle- men, more or less connected with the trade of the town, and you know bow mu'h the trade has fallen off. For the last two seasoas the agricultural produce and the fruit have completely tailed to yield even an average crop, hence the scarcity of vegetables and fruit and the consequent scarcity of money passing from the farmers' hands. The strikes among the miners and workmen of the district have not been without their effects on the trade of the town which supplies them with their produce. Merchants, too, who used to depend on this market for collecting their supplie now go into the country and buy enough to supply their wants, or order the goods to be sent direct to their places of business. The last two years have also seen the opening of the American meat trade in this town. These are a few of the ways through which the revenue of the market has decreased. Many more ways could be pointed out, but I think I have quoted sufficient to base my reasons for asking some allowance upon. Some of your townsmen have taken your tolls in more flourishing I times than the present and only paid Xl,500, but they gave it up after a year's trial, which they would not have done if they could have done any good with it. By me not giving it up as others have I have sustained a heavy loss during the last two years, and the present year is commencing very, very badly. So I hope, gentlemen, you will take into consideration the many leakages I have not mentioned which you can see your- selves, and make me some allowance. I took your tolls for the present year at your reserve, which seems to be based on what I gave you for the two previous years, you reserved three extra days for shows, turned the carts outof both markets (eveu carts which are in constant use by the butchers at the slaughter-house being moved out under your inspector's orders) and you promised at tne lettiug to get cash butter trade into the market, and yet four months have passed away since then and you have not moved a peg in the matter. I did not at the time of taking them expect to see the amount back which I gave, but wanted to see what a three years would average with the expectation of the cask butter trade in the third year. I am, gentle- men, your grateful servant, C. H. POKTNELL." -rhe Mayor: I presume you have all made up your minds what you will do with this application? -Voices We have.—Mr Talbot Norton Ought not the police to look after those people who surreptitiously sell things about the town ?-The Mayor: We cannot go into that. I should think the lessee of the markets and his agents will look ifter them. It is their business.—Mr Daniel Jones: He will look to that. He has got "Jimmy."—The Mayor: Well, gentlemen, what is to be done with this application ?—Mr D E Wil- liams I propose that it lie on the table.—Mr D Tanes seconded, and the motion was adopted. JOHN BROWN'S FAIR. The Mayor—Some time ago we decided that John Brown's Fair-the usual date for which occurs on Good Friday—should this year be held on the Thursday. I nave here a petition signed by a lot of dealers and others urging that the fair be held on the Saturday, the 16th Ap il, instead of on the 14th. This request was made so that it should not clash with other fairs.—After some dia- cussion, the Council did not deem it expedient to alter their previous decision.—The Council then rose.

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