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LLANDILO PETTY SESSIONS.

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LLANDILO PETTY SESSIONS. SATURDAY—Before Messrs A. S. Stepney- Gulston and G. H. Strick. ALLEGED WILFUL PERJURY. Superintendent W. Picton Philipps charged Margaret Davies, of the New Inn, Llandilo, with committing wilful and corrupt perjury in a Sunday closing case, heard on the 27th of July last. Mr R. S. Lewis, solicitor, appeared for the prosecution, and Mr J. W. Nicholas, for the de- fence. Mr R. S. Lewis, in his address for the prosecution, said that the defendant was a wit- ness for one John Davies, who had been charged before their worships by P.C. John Harries, with being on certain licensed premises on Sunday. In the evidence which the defendant gave 611 that occasion, she stated that she did not order beer on the day in question for any person at the Red Lion; that she did not pay for any beer; or that she saw any one supplied with beer. John Davies was fined for the offence, and a summons had been issued since against the de- fendant for committing wilful and corrupt perjury. Without detaining their wonhips further, he would proceed with the case. Lewis Bishop said that he was the clerk to the justices for the Llandilo Petty Sessional Division. He produced the information laid by P.C. John Harries against John Davies. It was laid before Mr A. S. Stepney-Gulston on the 8th of July last. In the information, P.C. Harries charged one John Davies, for that he the said John Davies, on Sunday, the 16th of June last, at the pariah of Llandilo fawr, during which day {>remises licensed for the sale of intoxicating iquors by retail, situate in the said parish of Llandilo fawr, were required under the pro- visions of the Sunday Liquor Closing Act, 1881, to be closed, was unlawfully found on certain premises of one Mary Davies, licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquors by retail, situate in the said parish of Llandilo-fawr, contrary, &c." On the 27th of July, the day on which the case was heard, the information was amended by substituting Mary Davies" for Margaret Davies." The defendant was a witness in the case. She was sworn to give evidence as a witness for the defence. Witness had got the minutes of her evidence. She then swore that she had never seen beer, or men drinking it." Those were the only minutes which he had down of her evidence. They did not include the whole of her evidence. He remembered nothing more than what was down. He had not the least recollection of any thing else. He had some vague idea of the de- fendant's having said something about 6d., but he really could not say now what it was about. Cross-examined by Mr Nicholas-As a rule I take down the material points. The exact worda on my minute book are that Margaret Davies never saw beer, or men drinking it." Re-examined by Mr Lewis-I did not antici- pate any proceedings of this kind when taking it down. P.S. John Harries said-I am a sergeant of the Carmarthenshire Constabulary, stationed at Llandilo. I was the complainant against John Davies in the case in which the magistrates' clerk has referred to in his evidence. I was present in this court on the 27th July last, and heard the evidence given in the case. I gave evidence myself. I was present when the defendant was sworn and examined. The statement read from the minute book of the evidence taken, so far as it goes, is correct. Defendant gave further evi- dence in the case. I remember being in the neighbourhood of the Red Lion Inn, Caledfwlch, kept by Margaret Davies, on the 16th June last. .1 was there at half-past four in the afternoon. What occurred at that time gave rise to the case to which I have referred. I was concealed about 15 or 20 yards from the front door of the Red Lion. I was on the off side of the road, and could clearly see the front door. I was near enough to hear the conversation that took place there. I saw the defendant going towards the front door of the Red Lion. She was coming from the direction of Llandilo. David Evans, John Davies, and Wm. Williams were near the Red Lion when defendant arrived. Defendant went into the Red Lion, and the men stood on the outside by the front door. Another man joined them in a couple of minutes. The men were close around the door. I cannot say how far the defendant went into the Red Lion. Shortly afterwards a quart jug and an empty glass were brought out of the house by the servant girl, which she gave to David Evans. I saw the contents of the jug poured into the glass, and divided between the men. The contents looked like beer. When the beer was poured out defendant was in the doorway. The landlady was in her company. The men were immediately around the door-step. The defendant was talk- ing to them while they were drinking the beer. One of them drank her health, saying in Welsh, lechyd da i chwi, Mrs Davies." Further, David Evans said, Years ago we were courting, Mrs Davies." David Evans also thanked her, and hoped that she would not be long before coming that way again. Those worda were spoken as the defendant was leaving. The defendant must have seen them drinking the beer. Cross-examined by Mr Nicholas-The men were ttanding three or four feet from the door- way. He remembered witnesses saying in the case against John Davies that the men stood three or four yards away from the doorway when they had the beer. Mra Davies was in the doorway when David Evans drank her health. He did not see him drinking, but he overheard what he said. Witness was twenty-five yards away. (Here Mr Nicholas specially appealed to their wor- ships that the witness should disclose the place in which he was concealed. He was tied hand and foot, and could not proceed further, unless he knew that fact. It was particularly impor- tant that he should know it. The witness having made a written statement to the Bench as to the place in which he was concealed, their worships permitted Mr Nicholas to ask him the question). tr The witness said he was sequestered in an old vacant outhouse on the opposite side of the road to the Red Lion Inn. The place adjoined David Evans' premises. Witness got a key and opened the outhouse. He had bought the key. Witness had previously examined the lock. The vacant cowhouse was 15 or 20 yards away from the Red Lion. Another person and the witness were concealed in it. Witness took notes while the other was looking on. Witness remembered being examined by Mr Nicholas in John Davies' case. Witness did not then say that he was looking on and the other person taking notes. Witness did not have his eyes on Mrs Davies the whole of the time she was at the front door. Witness could clearly see her. There was a hole in the building through which he could see her. It was an old opening. It was there when he first went there. Witness coulck see clearly through it, and hear also what wap taking place at the outside of the Red Lion. Witneaa saw froth on the jug. Witness could not say that it was beer, but something of the colour of beer. He oould not say whether it was beer or tea. The defendant said that which was false when she said that she never saw beer or men drinking it. The defendant, witness believed, was in the doorway of the Red Lion when the jug was brought out. The quart was emptied near the doorway. Witness did not remember saying in John Davies' case that it was emptied by the window. Witness could not say whether they drank any of the quart before Mrs Davies came out. Witneaa was not aware that the defendant went upto the Red Lion to enquire about a lost coat. Witness had not taken much trouble in the case. Witness had been up twice since by night. John Davies had been in his house since 11 o'clock of that morning. Witness had asked hiak in, William Williams was there also at his invitation. Be-examined by Mr Lewis-The witness had no reasonable doubt in his mind that the quart contained beer. Mfcrkaret Davies, sworn, said she was the land- lady of the Red Lion Inn, Caledfwloh, and a widow. Witness remembered the 16th June last. On the afternoon of that day witness saw the defendant (Mrs Davies). Witness saw her in the passage of the Red Lion. She first saw the defendant passing the window, and she went out And met her in the passage. Defendant said that she had lost her husband's coat, and did not know where it was. Defendant just then saw the coat hanging in the passage, and she said, This is the coat." Witness then asked her if she did not know it was there. Defendant said "No." Defendant got excited, and asked what she should I give for it. Witness replied nothing. Defen- dant then said, Give the men on the outside a drop of beer." Witness then told her servant girl to take a quart of beer outside. She took the beer outside to the men. Witness believed she took it out through the passage. They were standing near the doorway somewhere. David Evans and John Davies were two of the men. Witness saw them passing the window. Witness did not take particular notice as to Wm. Williams. She did not notice whether the girl took the quart of beer out or not. The defendant gave her 6d. Witness refused to take the 6d for the coat. Witness thought she took the 6d for the quart of beer. Cross-examined by Mr Nicholas—Witness did not see the quart of beer taken out. She stood talking to the defendant with her back against the door. Witness told the servant girl to take the beer out. She could easily pass the defen- dant without the defendant noticing her in the passage. Witness pressed the defendant to take a cup of tea. Defendant said she was going to her sister's, and wished witness good bye. Witness did not remember accompanying the defendant to the door when she left. Witness did not remember hearing anything about the drinking of health. Witness did not remember any con- versation. By Mr S. Gulston—Witness could not say what the width of the passage was. Witness felt certain it was a yard and a half where the defendant stood with her. Witness was not prepared to say anything about the conversation referred to by P.S. J. Harries. John Davies said that he was a labourer, and lived at Penlan, Caledfwlch. Witness remem- bered the afternoon of Sunday, the 16th June last. He was near the Red Lion Inn, Caled- fwlch, then. David Evans, William Williams, and David Evans, junr., were with him. Witness saw the defendant on that afternoon. It was somewhere about four o'clock p.m. Witness was sitting on a wall close to the Red Lion. The defendant came up to David Evans and asked him if he knew who had come with her husband from the Llangadock fair. Evans answered "Harriett, Oefntyresgob." Witness said Perkins, Dolau." Witness asked the defendant if she would like him to go to the Dolau to ask Perkins if he knew anything about the coat. Defendant said she would be glad if witness did so, and would pay him for his trouble. David Evans said he thought he knew where the coat was, and that it was in the Red Lion. Mrs Davies (the defendant) then said in Welsh to David Evans, Come on to the Red Lion to look for the coat, and to see whether there is a chance for a quart." David Evans, William Williams, and witness then went on with the defendant to the Red Lion. The defendant went into the passage of the Red Lion. The landlady met her there. Witness and the other men were then standing about three or four yards away from the door. While they were standing there a quart of beer was brought out to them. Witness believed it was the servant girl who brought it. David Evans took the beer from the hands of the person who brought it out. Evans gave it to witness, and witness divided the beer. The defendant was inside the passage when they were drinking the beer. The defendant was close by the front door of the Red Lion. After the beer had been drunk, witness heard David Evans say Thank you, Mrs Davies, and I hope you will not be long before you come up here again." Witness gave up the glass and the quart to Mrs Davies, of the Red Lion. Cross-examined by Mr Nicholas-All the beer had been drunk before the defendant came out. When drinking the beer they were close to the door. They were opposite the door. Witness remembered the case against himself in which he gave evidence on the 27th July last. Witness then said that he was 4 yards away from the door when he drank the beer. Mr Nicholas here pressed the witness as to which of the statements was the true one. Witness answered that the present one was the truth (laughter). Witness confessed to having said what was not true in the first case. The defen- dant had her back to the road when they drank the beer. The defendant was then about a yard and a half or two yards from them. William Williams said that he was a platelayer, and resided at Caledfwlch. Witness remembered the afternoon of Sunday, the 16th of June last. Witness was by the Red Lion then with the others. The defendant spoke to him and said, Come on Davey, it there is a chance of a quart I will pay for it." They went on to near the front door of the Red Lion. They had beer. The servant, directly they got to the Red Lion, brought out a quart of beer. They were stand- ing by the flag at the front of the door. The defendant was then talking to the landlady in the passage. There was about two yards between the defendant and the door. David Evans, before he drank the beer, wished Mrs Davies (the defendant) "good health." Witness did not hear the defendant say anything in return. By Mr Stepney-Gulston—David Evans said Good health to Mrs Davies. By Mr R. S. Lewis-David Evans said, Thank you, Mrs Davies, I hope you will not be long before you come up again." Cross-examined by Mr Nicholas—Witness had a part of the quart. Witness saw the defendant go into the Red Lion. The defendant came out as they were finishing the quart. The defendant came out in almost four minutes after the quart. David Evans gave the beer to John Davies, Penlan, who divided it directly afterwards. They had finished drinking the quart before defendant came out to the passage. Witness saw the defen- dant in the passage. The defendant's back was to the door. The defendant saw the beer brought out through the passage by the servant girl. Mrs Davies, the landlady of the Red Lion, saw it too. Witness did not hear the landlady give her evi- dence on that day. The only chance, as far as the witness knew, which the defendant had of seeing the beer was when it was being brought out through the passage by the servant girl. Witness could not say that the defendant saw any of them drinking the beer. Elinor Williams said she was the wife of the last witness, and lived near the Red Lion on the same side of the road. She remembered seeing her husband and others drinking beer by the Red, Lion on the 16th of June last. Witness was then standing on her own door step withut six or seven yards of the door of the Re LjAn. Before the quart was finished, witup." saw Mrs Davies, of the Red Lion, and the defendant coming out- side the door. Witness could not say whether they spoke to each other or not. Cross-exam^ed by Mr Nicholas—Witness did not see. tite beer being brought out. The first thyifr witness saw was the beer being divided, and; the men drinking a glass each. Before they were Quite finished the defendant came out. One glass, cuvided the beer. Witness could not say who had the first glass. David Evans had the last glass. It was yesterday that witness had been first asked to give evidence. Superintendent Philipps asked her at Llandovery to do so. Wit- ness believed her husband had told him some- thing previously about the case. Mr Nicholas, in an able address for the de- fence, pointed out the many side issues in the case, and also the entire absence of motive on the part of the defendant. The Bench, after a long deliberation, said that they did not question the evidence for the prosecution, but owing to the fact that there had not been sufficient evidence to them that the de- fendant had seen the men drinking, they would have to dismiss the case. The case occupied several hours in the hearing, and the result was greeted with some applause in Court. USING A CARRIAGE WITHOUT A LICENSE. James Francis Baker, of Llansawel, Inland Revenue officer, charged Margaret Harries, of Brynmelyn, Llandilo-fawr, farmer, with the above offence. Mr J. H. Taylor, Supervisor, Carmar- then, watched the case on behalf of the Excise, and Mr J. W. Nicholas (solicitor) appeared for the defendant. James Francis Baker, Inland Revenue officer, Llansawel, said that on the 21st June last he saw the defendant using a carriage on the high road, near Capel Isaac, in the parish of Llandilo-fawr. It was an ordinary spring car. Witness had not seen the offender since. Cross-examined by Mr Nicholas Witness reported the case to the Supervisor on the day the offence was committed, which was on the Llandilo June fair day. The defendant was returning from the fair with her son in the trap. Witness stopped the trap and asked for the license. The defendant said she had been carry- ing eggs to the market. There was no name on the trap. Witness felt positive of that fact. Witness had no communication since with the defendant. Witness had merely reported it. By Mr Taylor—Defendant told him there was no name on the trap, and witness saw none. Mr Nicholas, in addressing their worships for the defendant, said she was not liable to take out a license. Mrs Harries (the defendant), her son, and her servant girl, would prove that there was a name on the trap, viz., "Margaret Harries, Brynmelyn." On the morning in question defen- dant had been using the carriage to convey eggs and cheese to the Llandilo fair. His (Mr Nicholas') witnesses would say that the carriage had never been used except for carrying goods to market. In the form sent by the Excise to the defendant, which was an 1888 one altered -to 1889, she was in such a case allowed an exemption, and no blame could surely be attached to the defendant for following and carrvinsr out its 1IõõI'. II;1II instructions. David Harries said that he was the defendant's son, and resided at Brynmelin. Witness remem- bered the 21st June last. On that day witness met the Inland Revenue officer. Witness was in a market carriage then. There was a name on it, viz., "Margaret Harries, Brynmelin, Llan- dilo." The officer did not ask the" Ïtneaa if there was a name on the carriage. The officer did not look around the carriage for it. The name had been put on the carriage about February last. It had been clearly put on the back part of the carriage. It was in white paint. Anyone walking behind the trap could see the name, Margaret Harries, Brynmelyn." It was about 1t inches in size. The trap had never been used except for conveying goods to market. Witness had used it for that purpose on the morning in question. Cross-examined by Mr Taylor-The letters were nearly It inches in height. The officer made no enquiry for the name. Witness could swfear they were not put in since the officer made the com- plaint. Witness pointed out the name oik the carriage on Friday last. The carriage had not been used in January without a name. Th& carriage had a seat with a rail in the back part of it. When the officer met the carriage there were eggs and cheese in it. The carriage was not one ordinarily used about the farm. Letitia Williams said she was a servant of the defandant's, and lived at Brynmelyn. Witness knew that the defendant took eggs and cheese in the trap to the fair. There was a name on the trap, viz., Margaret Harries, Brynmelyn, Llandilo." Witness had seen the name on it previous to the 21st of June last. The name was on the back part of the trap; just on the bottom of it. It was in large letters. Witness had been at Brynmelyn for nearly two years. Witness could not exactly say when the name was put on. Witness had not seen it used for any purpose, except for carrying goods to the fair and market. Cross-examined by Mr Taylor—The name was painted on the carriage. It was not written on and attached to it by a piece of tin. Witness could not say when the name was painted. Wit- ness felt sure it was before the 21st of June last. Mr Taylor having replied, their worships dis- missed the case. TRESPA8SING AFTER GAME. John Bye, Pistillbach, near Llandyfane, a gamekeeper of Lord Dynevor's, charged Francis Richards, Ammanford, haulier William Davies, Bettws, collier and John Evans, Bettws, engine- driver, with trespassing in pursuit of game. Complainant said that he was a gamekeeper in the employ of Lord Dynevor, and lived at Pistill- bach. On Saturday, the 21st September last, between 3 and 4 o'clock in the afternoon, witness saw the three defendants beating the furze ground on Pistill farm. They had three grey- hounds, a spaniel, and a setter. Witness made towards them. When they saw the witness they started off at a quick walk. Witness followed, and overtook them. Witness asked them why were trespassing, and who had given them per- mission. They said the tenant had given them leave. The farm is called Pistill. Witness asked two of the defendants for their names, viz., John Evans and Wm. Davies. Defendants said they hoped that he (witness) would not sum- mon them. Witness said he would have to investigate the matter. The defendants, who said they had permission from the tenant, but that the tenant refused to come forward to prove it, were fined 10.:5 each and costs. DRUNKENNESS. P.S. John Harries charged Theophilus Davies, New Inn, innkeeper, with being drunk on his own premises. Fined 5s and costs- Several other cases were heard and adjudicated upon.

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