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HOLYWELL. LOCAL BOARD MEETING. The monthly meeting was held on Monday last, when there were presentMessrs. E. Bryan (in the chair), T. H. Waterbouse, James Williainp, T, A. Limbert, U. Bromley, W. Freeman, and Jos. Jones. SCHOOL ENLARGEMENT. The Sanitary Cooomittae having received plans of proposed additions to the schools in New-road, recommended that the Rev. Fr. Beauolerk be allowed to go on with the building. The recom- mendation was confirmed. LIGHTING COMMITTER. The Lighting Committee recommended that the appointment be aonfirmed of the lamplighter Thos. Jonna, at a weekly salary of 20i. Mr. Freeman called attention to the po-itlon of the lamps in Brynford-street.—The Surveyor said the order had been given for.the alterations to be made, but they bad not yet been carried out —Mr. Freeman said it did not appear that it was likely to be carried oat, and in fact he would only believo it when he saw it done. HIGHWAY. The Highway Commit ea recommended that the tender of Mr. John Holmes, (the only one received) for the carting of the t-tones for the main and district roads, at the rate of 2. 3j. per too, which the committee had decided to accept, be confirmed. MARKET COMMITTEE. The Market Committee having received com. plaints of parties selling pots in the street on Thursdays and Saturdays, the committee reoom. mended that the potmen be charged 2a. 61. for Thursday and Friday, and extra for Saturday if the space wes used. THE TOWN BUILDINGS. The report of the Market Committee meeting stited that the Chairman of the Committee (Mr. J. Carman) reported the result of the visit of the deputation of the Board to London, on Tuesday week last, in reference to the new buildings.—Mr. T. Griffiths proposed a vote of thanks to the deputation for their services. Mr. J. Jones seconded the proposition, which wa passed. THB BOABD AND THE BRYNFORD BOUNDARY. The Clerk gave a detailed report of the inquiry held by the Sub-Committee of the County Council, into the boundary of the district transferred from Brynford township to the Holywell Urban district. The ultimat-3 boundary being defined from Coetia Mnwr, down an accommodation road as far as the Woikhouse, and down to the Parliamentary borough boundary of Whtlntone. The boundary took in a portion of the Workhouse premises, and those houses in front of the Workhouse The report of the adjourned committee came before the County Council for confirmation on Wednesday last week, and upon its being brought before the Council, Mr. T. Lloyd Ellis, of Newmarket, took exception to the decision. He did not like that the Workhouse should be within the reatable area of Holywell Local Board. The ratpable value of the Workhouse was between £ 2-50 and L300-and that was not a flea bit as far as rating was concerned. He did not think it fair or reasonable, that the outcide parishes should pay towards the rates of Holywell. The fact was S30 would be the extent of the rates, and Mr. Ellis re- presented the 75th part of that. He (Mr. Ellis) was supported by the Chairman of the Rural Sanitary Authority, Mr. Samuel Da vies, C.C., and he (the Clerk) felt compelled to say that some observations that fell from Mr. Samuel Davies were not very complimentary to the Local Board. He said they had mismanaged their business—they had mismanaged everything. He thought it was very bad taste, that the Chairman of a Rural Authority should cast any reflection upon an Urban Authority in the very immediate neighbourhood, and when in fact the Urban Authority manage their affairs un- commonly well, notwithstanding what people say to the contrary. The Board has laid money out to the beet advantage, and they are now reaping the benefit of it, and the ratepayers shortly instead of paying a rate of 2s. 4d. in the pound, will pay less than 2s. in the pound, providing no more money is borrowed (hear, hear). Mr. Bromley. Mr. Samnel Davies is not here to defend himself, and it is scarcely fair to refer to him as the Clerk has just done. The Clerk I was present at the County Council when he wai there, and I asked the permission of the Council to answer Mr. Davies, but the Council would not allow me. He cannot come here to answer this, but no doubt notice will be taken of the matter, and it may be thoroughly investigated. The Chairman You do not cast a reflection upon Mr. Davies, but only defend the Local Board. The Clerk Certainly. Hr. Bromley: If you raise that question, some will say that it is true. Mr. Lambert: Those who have not had their own way. Mr. Bromley There are some who say that the affairs are not properly managed by the Local Board. The Clerk If you investigate the acoounts yon will find different. It is very easy to make an assertion, but a different matter to sustain it upon investigation afterwards. Look into what the Local Board have. What had they thirty years ago and what have they now P If there is any man of un- biassed mind, he could not but see npon examination that they have managed their affairs better than any Local Board in the county, and better than many private individuals and companies. Mr. Bromley: God help the poor people who manage themselves. Dr. Williams It would be better if the Clerk confined himself to the report. Mr' Bromley Yes, that is what is wanted. Mr, Da vies is not here to speak for himself. Mr. Lambert: Treat them according to the souroa from which they come: Mr. Freeman: Boil them down (laughter). The Clerk The County Council have adapted the recommendation of the second meeting of the sub- committee. Mr. Freeman I heard that they have disagreed among themselves, and there is some rumour of referring it to the Local Government Board. The Clerk said there was a rumour that the rural district was not going to submit to the order of the County Oounoil, and would appeal against it that the Local Government Board might decide it. THS AMALGAMATION OF GREENFIELD-REPORTED ORANGE IN PUBLIC OPINION. The Clerk said with respect to Greenfield, the Committtee had recommended that no portion of Greenfield or Bagillt be added to Holywell, acd they further stated that though there are many circum- stances in which the Committea thought it may be desirable to join Greenfield to Holywell, they could not make such a recommendation in view of such strong opposition shown by the inhabitants of that township, the inadequate terms offered by Holywell and the entire afcstnoe of any favour shown for the application. The question was did the Board con- aider it advisable to appeal against that report T The Chairman Do you not think it will be better to let it remain until the order is issued. The Clerk: Certainly not. You have an idea what the order will be like, and it will take some time to prepare the case. When the order is issued you will then have all facts ready. The Chairman Is it the wish of the Board to appeal against the order ? m Dr. Williams: I would join anything to get Greenfield into the Holywell district, and join any- thing that we leave out the Workhouse. The Chairman: There might be a compromise by getting one for the other-. Mr. Bromley: What objeotion can you have? The Workbonse must benefit if drained and supplied with water. Dr. Williams: It appears to me an"anomalous state of things to include the Union Workhouse in the urban district. It should be governed by its own body. It has its own admiiiistrati-Dn its own drainage aud water supply. It would lead to a great deal of friction if the urban authority meddled with rural things. Mr. Bromley: The sanitary condition of the Union is not satisfactory, and not as satisfactory as it will be if the drainage of Holywell is carried out. There is no doubt it will have to be drained into Holywell main-drain, otherwise it will be a standing nuisance. Under the circumstances, I say the parishes of the Union would benefit and pay only a very small quota towards carrying out the drainage of this important institution. Dr. Williams: The Union can drain itself, the Rural Sanitary Authority can do it, and it will be better to drain it away from Holy well, than that it should go through the town. Mr. Bromley You may not have to drain through the streets of Holywell. The Clerk staid the question was did the Board intend to appeal to the Local Government Board Mr. Lambert said he should strongly support an appeal against a decision that would not bring about what the Board most desired—the amalgama- tion of Holywell and Greenfield fiom a sanitary point of view, Though there was strong opposition against the application, yet, it had been proved as far as it possibly could, that Greenfield wants draining quite as much as Holywell. It had been admitted that Greenfield was part and parcel of Holywell, and they had, he considered, strong grounds for appeal. It would be cheaper and better to have one combined soheme than for each to carry cut their own separate scheme of drainage. He proposed that the Board appeal against the order of the County Council, Mr. Bromley said there were some people who thought that the Clerk beached the application before the Commission, and that bad he first consulted the Board about the Well before replying, he would have altered the report entirely. However, it would be far better for Greenfield to join Holywell than to join Bagillt, and further, if Holywell were to approach the Greenfield friends in a nice spirit, and discuss it fairly, it is possible we could arranage it without any friction. The Local Government Board will uever amalgamate contrary to the wishes of the people. They may do it for the purposes of drainage only. I should like very much if it was possible to arrange matters. Mr. Thos. Hughes himself feels, from what I hear, that it would be better to be joined to Holywell than to Bagillt; Greeufi?Id would be merged and so lost in her greater neighbour of Bagillt. The first scheme applied for was a better one for Greenfield than what is now proposed. If only fairly put the Greenfield people will see that it is not to their interest to quarrel, but to go with spirit to work together in unity and in the best of faith. Mr. Lambert had said that Greenfield wanted drainage it did. Anyone going up from Greenfield to Holywell would see by such a specimen as Mount Pleasant that it did want drainage. I would recommend that we get at the most important ratepayers in Greenfield, and discuss the thing fairly. They now know they cannot be charged with the debts of Holy-well. That was a thing that would frighten them for some length of time. The thing was, not to go in for the spirit of fighting. The Government will not hand them over like pigs (laughter). The Tory Government will not, let alone the Liberal Government (a voice: The Government down Greenfield.") No; I speak of the Government above. I eay they will not hand them over like pigs. You cannot get them to go in for compulsion, but if you can get the Greenfield people to agree to the amalgamation it will probably alter the matter (hear, hear.) Dr. Jas. Williams said he had long felt that something should be done. It was to the advantage of Greenfield to join Holywell. Holywell would never be complete without Greenfield, and if there was to be any future for Holywell the approach should be made more decent and civilised than at present. He would suggest that the Board meet the Lighting Committee of Greenfield, before making the appeal to the Local Government Board and that an effort should be made to bring about the amal- gamation of Greenfield and Holywell. Mr. Freeman said he was pleased to hear Mr. Bromley make such proposals and he should like to see them carried out. Dr. Williams The appeal would be the stronger if we could get the consent of the people of Green- field. Mr. Bromley: I consider that there is a strong feeling among a great number of Greenfield people in favour of joining Holywell. They have now changed their views. The Clerk: Do you suggest that I should write as Clerk to the Clerk of the Lighting Inspectors to invite them to meet a committee of this Board down at Greenfield to see if any suoh arrangement could be carried out ? Mr. Bromley If they would not agree to that- though I do not wish to make any tbreat-I think the majority of the ratepayers would go in for it, and the Lighting Inspectors could not do anything without consulting the ratepayers. The suggestion was agreed to, and the Clerk in- structed to write to the Clerk of the Lighting Inspectors proposing a joint conference upon the matter. THE BOARD AND THB WELL WATBR. The Clerk said the Local Government Board de- sired to have plans of the water and drainage scheme before proceeding with the matter. He had seen Messrs. Wood and Brodie. and they informed him that the drainage scheme was ready, but they had not prepared the water scheme. The proposal was to take the water from the St. Winefride's Well, and he was prepared to advise the Board that the Well, being on the Board's own private property and already penetrated by a private company, the Board had absolute authority to take the water that rose on its own ground for the supply of its own people, they having the first right to the water before it went to the brewery or any of the other works. There was no occasion for any provisional order or Act of Parliament. All that was wanted was to form the valve and oonvey the water to the reservoir aad plump it to the top of the town. The question was would the Board carry out the sugges- tion of the Local Government Board or not.—The matter was deferred. THE DEPUTATION TO LONDON ON THB TOWN BUILDINGS QUESTION. FEESH DIFFICULTIES IN THE WAy. The Board having waited some time for the appearance of Mr. Carman, the Chairman of the Market Committee, who formed one of the deputa- tion to London on the Town Bnildings question, the matter was proceeded with in his absence. Mr. Lambert said by the introduction Mr. Herbert Lewis gave the deputation and his assistance their task was made an easy one.—The Clerk said after the explanation of Mr. Lewis, Sir Hugh Owen said he quite sympathised with the Board, and saw by the explanation that the Board wanted the room. He (the Clerk) after the deputation returned, put himself in communication with Mr. Abel Jones, the contractor, to go on with the work. He also wrote to Mr. Lloyd Williams, the architect, as to the alteration in the plans. He had subsequently re- ceived a letter from Mr. Abel Jones, Rhyl, in which he said so much delay having taken place in oonneo- tion with the buildings that to resume, the work would have to be continned when the days were short and the weather bad. He was afraid he must withdraw from all the contracts. He had already been put to a considerable expense in oon- sequence, and he was unable to incur any further cost. He was prepared to allow what work had been done to be valued and reasonable compensation to be paid him. He made a fruitless journey to Denbigh on 7 uesday last and failed to get the plans. He would point out what work he had done during the short days when the extra depths was made for the foundations. The job had been a most dis- appointing one.—The Clerk said Mr. Jones could not withdraw without the consent of the Board, and also with regard to the persons who were his sureties, and Mr. Lloyd Williams could not give him the plans of the place he had not seen. The Board's bargain covered any alterations that may be made. —Mr. Bromley He does not know what he wants. He must have been bilious or something.—Mr. Lambert: He seems to have been disappointed.— The Clerk suggested that as Mr. Lloyd Williams was coming to Holywell on Tuesday that Mr. Abel Jones be requested to meet him at the building.— This was agreed to. THE CHAIRMANSHIP. Mr. Bromley suggested as Mr. Carman was not present, to move his motion re the appointment of a Chairman for the remainder of the Board's existence, and that the ex-chairman of the Board should be appointed.—.The Clerk said that could not be done. Mr. Carman Lad not arranged for anyone to move his motion m his absence, and the motion fell through. After some discussion Mr. Bromley gave a notice of motion on the lines of his suggestion.- Subsequently, after some of the members had dis- persed, Dr. Willillms moved the appointment of Mr. Evan Bryan as Chairman for the remaining period. -The motion wa5 seconded by Mr. Bromley, sup- porMctby Mr. Jos. Jones, and carried.

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