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IMP1BIAL PABLLiMBMT. At the House of Lords, on May 22nd, the Earl of Malmes- bury stated that the Government had not yet received the official particulars from Sir R. Napier relative to Abyssinia. It was, however, his intention to move, on Friday next, a "rote of thanks to the Commander-in-Chief and tile troops ngaged in the campaign. HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN. In the House of Commons, Ifr. leartlen inquired of the Government whether it was true that her Majesty the Queen had been compelled, through delicate health, to retire fiom IIiglaml Il\lriu; the remainder of the season; and if so, whether it wns the intention of her Majesty's Government, out of consideration to her Majesty's health, comfort, and tranquility, and in the interest of the Royal Family, and of her Majesty's subjects throughout the empire, and especially of the metropolis, to advise her Majesty to abdi- cate in favour of his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, or to introduce a Bill for the purpose of establishing a Regency in the persons of their Royal Highnesses the Prince and Princess of Wales, in order to perform the duties incumbent upon the Sovereign during her Majesty's absence from the metropolis, and in order to prevent the continuance of the great inconvenience, loss, and' injury to the interest of the empire, and particularly to her Majesty's metropolitan subjects, which has been endured out of sympathy for the Sovereign during the last seven years. Loud and long-continued cries of "Order" followed this announcement. Ultimately, The Speaker rose, and in a very dignified manner said that the House had, by its demonstration of opinion, anticipated his decision. Any question of the present character must be couched in respectful and Parliamentary terms. The present interrogatory was the very reverse in its style. After an apology from Ir. Rearden, the matter dropped. Air. Disraeli gave notice that on Friday next he would move a vote of thanks to Sir R. Napier and the troops engaged in the Abyssinian Expedition. lr: Gladstone moved the second reading of the Esta- blished Church (Ireland) Bill. In a speech of moderate length lie went over the old ground of an alien Church in Ireland, and the need there was for disestablishing it. The House had been called upon to vote, and had voted that its temporalities should cease yet they had also voted that proprietary rights should be carefully respected. All that he was desirous of doing was to bring about religious equality for Ireland to let every religious institution be supported by a voluntary system; and to this end he proposed to repeal the Maynootli Grant and to discontinue the Regium Donuni at the same time that he took away the temporalities of the Anglican Church in Ireland. The Suspensory Bill was simply one to prevent any vacancies which might occur in the Church being filled up between the present time and August, 1809, before which period he hoped to mature a Bill for the disposal of the temporalities of the disestablished Church. In reply to taunts which had been passed as to its being an inopportune moment to introduce such a Bill, he said lie should be ashamed of himself, and ashamed of the time, if he had not persevered in passing Buch a measure as he now proposed as speedily as possible, when he became convinced that Ireland's welfare depended upon such a course. Mr. Gathorne Hardy was opposed to every sentiment con- tained in }Ir. Gladstone's resolutions, on which this Bill was based. The purpose was neither more nor less than tliis-to confiscate all the Church property and devote it to secular purposes. This, if carried out, would naturally tend to the separation of Church and State. This Bill was not fair in its construction. In the first place he took exception to the pre- amble. It asserted that the Queen had been pleased to give up her interests in the temporalities of the Church. Now, her Majesty did nothing of the sort. She merely waived her right to interfere with any steps Parliament might take, but she reserved to herself a right to oppose measures which dis- possessed her of her sovereign rights. Dispose of the Church, and the Union must be repealed,-at least in his own judg- ment and that also of eminent lawyers. If the Church in Ireland were separated from the State, England's right to the possession of the sister country would cease. The sum gained bysuchacourse wasnot worth the trouble it would cause; the amount was immaterial; but to separate the Church from the State might lead to a world of confusion, and terminate in greater discord than Ireland had ever before experienced. He called upon the House of Commons to support his amend- ment, to the effect that the bill be read that day six months. Air. Lowe, in speaking of the Irish Church, said, "Cut it down why cumbereth it the ground ?" In reply to that he would say, Leave it alone for this one year; digit about, and dung it, and then it may bring forth good fruit." The attack was not simply against the Irish Church, it was in- tended as a blow against the English Church; if the one went the other must follow. He did not think the views of Mr. Gladstone and his party were popular. He believed there were in this country numbers of Roman Catholics and Xon- conformists who would support the Church as she at present existed, rather than confiscate her property and deprive millions of the benefits she confers. Mr. Lawson strongly supported the Bill. The discussion was continued by Sir F. Heygate, -Air. Liddell, :Hr. Synan, 2,lr. Verner, Ir. Whalley, and Mr. Karslake. :\11'. Sergeant Barry, declared that disestablishing the Irish Church was never intended as a step towards disesta- blishing the English Church. The Attorney-General for Ireland said until the Church was disestablished there could be no need of a Suspensory Bill, and thus ?\II'. Gladstone was beginning at the wrong end. After a few remarks from Nir. Murpby, Lord Elcho, and Mr. W. E. Foi-stei-, :Mr. Disraeli explained that the resolutions of Air. Glad- stone were allowed to pass without any undue opposition. The House had expressed its opinion, and it would be left to the country to decide whether this view was generally main- tained. But with undue haste Mr. Gladstone came down with what he called his Suspensory Bill, which was to take away the temporalities of the Church without showing them how the funds were to be disposed of. lie Mr. Disraeli had ever opposed any disseverance of Church and State. lie never could support any measurep which would take the funds granted for spiritual purposes to (lis- pose of them in any secular manner. As a Government they had to consider Ireland under existing circumstances, not what she has been or what she might be, but how they could render justice to the few as well as the many. If the Irish Church was disestablished it would create confusion throughout the whole of England. A belief existed that the English Church must follow, and that the social system of this country would be rocked to its very centre if the policy of -.Nir. Gladstone was carried out. The Church of England, however, was still dear to the hearts of the people. There were still large and influential parties throughout the kingdom who would support Church and State inseparable, and in the end he had no doubt they would be triumphant. -Air. Gladstone replied to the remarks made by the various speakers during the debate, and in doing so pointed to the tenacity with which Ministers clung to the Treasury bench otherwise the policy introduced by him for the government of Ireland would have been in a more advanced state. lie warned the Government and the Mini- sterial supporters to withhold an opposition to measures which must pass, lest their opposition to the lesser measures would introduce greater, and more mate- ,c rially affect t] ,Church., If they were prepared to vote for religious equality all over the world, the vote for the dis- establishment of the Irish Church would pass that night and if there should come a time when the English Church should be disestablished the vote would be with them, be- cause the endowments were in favour of a Church to which the majority of the people belonged. After some personal explanations from the Earl of Mayo, concerning the policy he had pursued, The House divided, when there appeared for the second reading, 312; against it, 258; majority, 5 L The Bill was thereupon read a second time and .1\11'. Gladstone announced that on Friday, the 5th of June, he would ask the House to go into committee on the Bill. The House then adjourned. In the House of Lords, May 25, ilord Portman appealed to Lord Chelmsford, who has charge of the Artisans' Dwel- lings Bill, to have it sent before a select committee. Lord Chelmsford declined, on the ground that he could not attend the committee. Lord Portman then gave notice that on the motion for going into committee on the Bill he Ehould oppose any further progress with it. The Consolidated Fund ,£17,000,000; Bill was read a second time. The Endowed Schools Bill was read a third time and passed, and the House adjourned. In the House < i Commons, Mr. Maguire moved the ad- journment of the House for the purpose of raising a dis- cussion respecting tile riots which took place at Ashton- under-Lyne a fortnight ago. In these riots, he stated, two Roman Catholic chapels and a school were gutted, and more than a hundred dwelling houses of Roman Catholics were sacked by a mob of persons who had been incited against the Catholics by a lecturer named Murphy. He blamed the magistrates for not interfering with greater effect, and in- quired of the Home Secretary whether lie would give an assurance that :11'. Murphy's lectures should be stopped. Mr. G. Hardy defended the conduct of the magistrates, and said with regard to Murphy's lectures, he was informed they were not given in the open air, but in a room hired by the lecturer, to which persons wore admitted by ticket, and he was not aware of any law by which a person could be pre- vented from delivering controvei sial lectures in a room which he hired, and which no person was compelled to attend. After sfime remarks from Mr. M. Gibson, Sir. Whalley, Sir G. Bowyer, and Mr. Newdegate, the subject dropped. Mr. Bright made an appeal to the Home Secretrywhether, under all the circumstances, he would not advise a further reprieve to be granted to the convict Barrett, so that he might, if possible, have a new trial. Mr. G. Hardy slated that, in consequence of memorials sent in subsequent to the verdict, inquiries had been made which had left no doubt in the minds of the judges who presided at the trial, and he concurred with them, that the man was guilty of the charge. Colonel Jervis asked whetlier Government intended to defray the cost of defending ex-Governor Eyre in the pro- secution to which he is now being subjected, or whether he was to be let to depend on subscriptions. lIe complained of the vindictiveness with which, as he alleged, Air. Eyre was persecuted. Mr. Gilpin regretted that the question had been put while the matter was sub judice, and insisted that it was but just that Nlr. Eyre should be put on his trial. Mr. Disraeli said when General Nelson and Ensign Brand were prosecuted the Government thought it their duty to defend them, because they were prosecuted for acts done in obedience to the orders of their superior officers. But the case of Governor Eyre was of another character, and the Government thought it was not their duty to defend him. They should, however, have the trial watched, and if after the trial they thought it was their duty to make a proposi- tion to support him in the defence which he made, they would not shrink from performing that duty. After a question from Colonel S. Knox respecting the letter of Air. C. Buxton on the same subject, which has been pub- lished in the newspapers, and which the Speaker rule,l was out of order. The motion was withdrawn, and the House went into committee on the Scotch Reform Bill, resuming the dis- cussion on clause 3, which relates to the occupation franchise for voters in burghs. The Lord Advocate reminded the committee that on Thursday night they struck, out the third and fourth divisions of the clause rOtluirfvg that the voter shall be rated and have paid his rates, lie now moved to insert words disfranchising persons who have been exempted from payment on the ground of inability to pay, or who shall within twelve months have been in the receipt of parochial relief. Ir. Moncreiff accepted the amendment, and it was agreed to. On clause 5, wliieh relates to the occupation franchise for counties, which was fixed at a rateable value of £] 2 or upwards, a') amendment was made to leave out" rattcable," to which the Lord Advocate consented, but altering the amount to £ 14, and in that form it was agreed to. On the clause which gives two members to certain universities, Ir. Lowther said the claims of Scotland to additional representation would hardly bear light when compared with other parts of the United Kingdom. lie moved that the clause be postponed. After a discussion, in which several hon. members took part, ,Alr. Disraeli said he would now make another proposition, that seven additional members be given to Scotland, not ten, namely, one member to each of the three counties of Lanark, Ayr, and Aberdeen, one member more to Glasgow, and another to Dundee, and two members to the universities. One member he would obtain by combining the counties of Selkirk and Peebles, which now returned one each, and the remainder he would obtain by applying so far the principle of Mr. Baxter's resolution. Ir. Bouverie said this was a new proposition and they ought to have time to consider it, but he preferred that of Mr. Baxter. Sir L. Palk could not agree to the compromise proposed by Mr. Disraeli. He could not consent to one single scat being taken from the representation of England and given to Scot- land but he was willing to give more representation to Scotland by adding to the numbers of the House. Mr. Gladstone believed it would be unsatisfactory to the country to recede from the vote they came to the other night. He thought that the claim of Scotland to ten additional seats was fairly made out. Mr. J. Hardy agreed with Sir L. I'alk, and hoped he would divide the House upon it. Mr. Bright impressed upon the House the wisdom of accepting Mr. Baxter's resolution. Mr. Walpole thought they were bound to accept the settlement of the question of redistribution come to last year. Mr. Baxter should not accept the Government proposition, and proceeded to move that ten additional members be allocated to Scotland as follows :-One to the universities, one additional to each of the counties of Ayr, Lanark, Aberdeen, and Perth; that Glasgow be divided into two districts, each returning two members that one additional member be given to each of the cities of Edinburgh, Aberdeen, and Dundee. A desultory conversation followed, which ended_ by Mr. Baxter amending his resolution by proposing to give two members to the universities, and omitting the county of Perth. Mr. G. Hardy moved as an amendment that three members only be given to Glasgow. On a division, Mr. Hardy's amendment was carried by 261 to 222. Mr. Disraeli expressed a hope that, after this vote, the House would accept the proposition of the Government. The clause was further amended in accordance with the proposition previously made by Mr. Disraeli. Sir L. Palk then moved to add a proviso "that the repre- sentation of England and Ireland be not thereby diminished." Mr. Disraeli said the plan proposed in the bill did not reopen the distribution for England, whereas the proviso of the hon. member would. He appealed to the hon. member to withdraw it. The motion was negatived by 262 to 95. Further progress with the bill was then suspended until Thursday. Some other business was then disposed of, and the House adjourned.

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