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ABERYSTWYTH. BOARD OF GUARDIANS.—MONDAY. Present: Mr D Morgan (chairman), the Rev T A Penry, the Rev John Davies, Messrs H Hughes, B E Morgan, T E Salmon, Richard Edwards, Edwin Morris, Lewis Richards, Thomas Jenkins, W Morris, James Jones, E J Evans, David Lloyd, Richard Jones, Evan Richards, Daniel Morris, David Edwards, John Jones, Thomas James, Richard Davies, and T H Jones; with Mr Hugh Hughes (clerk), and Mr D Davies (assistant clerk). THE CHAIR. It was nearly 11-20 before a quorum of members was present, and it was found necessary to appoint a chairman, Mr B Ellis Morgan being voted to the chair pro. tem. BOARDING-OUT COMMITTEE. The ladies of the Boarding-out Committee re- ported that all the children were happy, in good health, and their conduct was good. CARMARTHEN ASYLUM. The authorities at Carmarthen Asylum reported the death at that place of Elizabeth Williams, pauper, on January 12th. MASTER'S REPORT. The Master reported that there were 46 paupers in the House compared with 61 during the corres- ponding period of 1899. During the past fortnight 19 vagrants had been relieved as compared wifih 30 during the corresponding period of last year. Mrs E James, North Parade, sent a number of books for the use of the inmates.—On the motion of Mr R Edwards, seconded by Mr Salmon, a vote of thanks was passed to Mrs James. OUT-RELIEF. During the past two weeks the following amounts have been paid in out-reliefPer Mr T Vaughan, £46 7s to 157 recipients; per Mr J J Hughes, £ 40 2s 5d to 151 recipients; per Mr Joseph Morgan, zC49 18s to 155 recipients. A COUNTRY MAGISTRATE'S DILEMMA. Amongst the bills sent in were two for the hire of conveyances and doctor's certificates for the same lunatic. The Rev T A Penry explained that there was a woman residing at Bethel who was supposed to be insane. She was examined by a doctor and a certificate given. Mr Vaughan, relieving officer, procured a conveyance from Bethel to the nearest railway station and the magistrate residing there went along with him. Whilst there the relatives and neighbours clamoured and implored that the woman should be left to go home and given another trial. Under the circumstances the magistrate consented and the woman was allowed to return. But now the cost of the conveyance had to be paid for as well as the doctor's fee for certifying. About six weeks afterwards the woman became bad again and it was evident to all that she must be taken down. So the doctor had to go up and certify and a conveyance had to be obtained and so they would see that double the expense had been incurred in respect to this par- ticular case. There was no questien about the payment for the bills had been paid, but he thought the magistrate at this place ought to be able to make up his mind what to do before going to all this expense and not submit to the clamour of per- sons who did not understand the nature of the case and who were carried away by their feelings with- out knowledge or judgment.—Mr Salmon Was it the parents ?—Rev T A Penry No, relatives.—Mr Salmon Cannot we make them pay the costs in- curred ?—Rev T A Penry That is the point.—Mr W Morris Who was the magistrate ?— Rev T A Penry: Mr James, Ffynon Howell.—Mr B E Morgan did not think the magistrate was to blame. —Rev T A Penry There was the doctor's certifi- cate that the woman was insane.—Mr B E Morgan Probably the magistrate certified.—Rev T A Penry No, he was persuaded by the people not to do so.- Mr B E Morgan The relatives ought to pay the extra cost. But if they are poor it is rather rough upon them.—Mr Vaughan (relieving officer) said the people were poor and on the first day that they went the woman seemed to be better. It was on the application of the relatives that he went to take her away in the first case.—On the motion of Mr Edwards, it was agreed to pay the bills and the Board expressed the hope that the officers would be careful in dealing with these cases. THE INFLUENZA SCOURAGE. Mr Rd Edwards said that there was so much sickness in the district that he was afraid some of those on the books were suffering. lie did not think they were doing as much as they might. Could they not give the relieving officer some power to help)he sick poor to get some nourishment.—Mr Salmon presumed that the officers had that power in urgent cases. He would like to know if there were any cases of people suffering. If there were any it was the duty of Mr Edwards to inform the Board.—Mr Edwards: I don't know of any case which I can put my hand on; it is only my im- pression. The Rev T A Penry But that is the regular thing; it is a.Howed.—Tho Chairman also staged that this was the course usually adopted and the Clerk added that in fact the overseers could give the order in cases of urgency.—Mr Vaughan said that there were only three paupers in his district ill with influenza, and they had had their relief increased during the past month. WHAT A MAN CAN LIVE ON. An old man, too ill to appear personally before the Board, applied through the Aberystwyth re. lieving officer for out-relief. Some years ago he had been injured and had never made a proper recovery.—Mr E J Evans understood that the man was m receipt of 3a lOd per week as a pension — Hie Rev T A Penry: But you are not going to penalise a man for that.—Mr Salmon: That's not the way to encourage friendly societies. This old man broke his leg and it has never been set pro- per y.—Mr Hugh Hughes Mr Bircham distinctly said on his last visit that the Guardians should not let such a fact weigh against an applicant. We ought to encourage those who help themselves— Mr James Jones thought if the man was getting 3s 10d per week it was enough for him to live on (cries of Oh "). Mr Salmon: Better send them up to TyI!wyn.—Mr Hughes You can't call that living; it is mere existence.-The case was de- ferred until the next meeting. A BIT OF A BEEBZE. Mr R Edwards brought forward a matter which cropped up at the close of the last meeting of the Board, when Mr Penry in answer to a question by Mr E J Evans respecting certain remarks made by Mr Penry at a meeting previous to that said that he was willing to make an explanation to the Chair- man or the Clerk, and he now desired to know if Mr Penry had forwarded that explanation so that the Board should be satisfied.—[The remark re- ferred to was one in which Mr Penry said that letters had been written interfering with the officials at the House.]—Rev T A Penry: I do not know what right Mr Edwards has to call attention to the matter. There was no reporter here. I do not see what right he has to call upon me to do anything. I made an offer and it was not accepted a t the time. I am not going to renew it —Mr E J Evans Who had the right ? Of course you said that it was not one, so I thought that I had no right to accept any offer made by you. I was given to understand outside the Board that it was Mr Edwards who was the guilty party, and I told him so. I can name the gentleman who told me; in fact he is here present to-day. I think a person in Mr Penry s position should not be allowed to make such statements without proving them or with. drawing them. I say it was Mr Edwards that Mr Penry pointed out. -Rev T A Penry: I am willing to stand to everything I said at the Board meeting. You should not listen to tittle-tattle outside—Mr E J Evans It was suggested that a member of the Board was working with the paupers and telling them not to do what the Master told them. I say that Mr Penry ought to withdraw or to prove that Mr Edwards had been guilty of undue in- flnence of cruelty towards the men inside The Rev T A Penry Mr Evans is drawing upon his imagination. Did I mention any member ? — Mr Evans Yes, you said a member.—The Rev T A Penry: I did not. I said there were persons who were doing such and such a thing. All I stand by is simply this—the ground upon which they base their claim. What right have these gentlemen upon the basis of what I said to demand anything of me ?—Mr Edwards: I have been accused outside by certain members that I am the person who wrote letters to Mr Penry, and it is only right for me to have it cleared. The Rev T A Penry I never said anything of the kind Mr Edwards: I am asking upon that ground whether I am guilty.-The Rev T A Penry When did I say that there were letters written to me ?- Mr E J Evans asked Mr James Jones what he had got to say.—Mr Jones Nothing !—Mr Evans Did you not tell, me on the sheet that Mr Edwards was the person P-Mr Jones No; I never told you.- Mr Evans rose and left his chair in disgust, and the members joined in a hearty laugh.—The incident then closed.

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