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BOARD OF GUARDIANS. 18.L he fortnightly meeting of the board was held in boardroom of the union workhouse on Menday. i'esent—Mr Morrie Davies (in the chair); Rev John vice-chairman Mr William Jones, Brynowen, •Hr W. B. Powell, Nanteos, and Mr O. D. Wemyss, ^pfficios; Rev Prebendary WilliamB, Messrs C. M. "Williams, and John Morgan, timber merchant, Aber- ystwyth; Rev J. M. Griffiths, Llanfihangel Geneu'r- gyn Rev J. T. Griffiths, Llanilar Messrs Hugh Y^ghes, Glynpadarn; David Lewis, Llanrhystid; Dd. ~2»nes,Rest; David Rowlands, Mabwshen; John Jones, ^Joelglomen David Owen, Maenelin E. J. Morgan, ijjtelindwr; James Jones, Llwynglas James Jones, Tyllwyd; John Jones, Penbwlch William Evans, David Jenkins, Glangors; Richard Hughes, fahendre- John James, Tynrhos Richard Thomas, ^pysgaga Thomas James, Llwyniorwerth; Thomas ^Hich, Gelmast Evan Richards, Penuwch David jpnes, Bryncastell William Paull, Cwmbrwyno; *lttgh Hughes, jun., clerk; and Dr John Jones, Medical officer. THE HOUSE. The Master reported that there were 62 in the bo-ase, against 76 in the corresponding fertnight of year. The number of vagrants relieved was 33, gainst 63 in the corresponding fortnight of last year. FINANCE. The following out-relief was administered dnring pa8t fortnight :—Aberystwyth district, per Mr Jones, < £ 39 6s 6d, to 160 paupers; corresponding *°rtnight of last year, £ 42 13s Od, to 170 paupers geneu'rglyn district, per Mr John D. Jones, £ 49 10s, to 190 paupers corresponding fortnight of last year, ^>2 5s Od, to 204 paupers; liar district, per Mr Joseph Horgan, £ 43 5s 6d, to 168 paupers; corresponding *°rtnight of last year. £ 44 8s 0d,to 172 paupers. The 4raount in the bank to the credit of the union was <1,422 158 2d. A CHARGE. Mr John Morgan said there was one bill which the Jotnmittee had refused to pass a fortnight ago, and now proposed that the chairman should give the Masons why they refused to do so. The Chairman said he regretted that a bill was tesented before them which affected a grave ^testion whether a servant or officer of this board, carrying out the orders of the board, or under- ^feing journeys, ought not to be as econmical as Possible, and should not when he asked for repay- ment only ask for the exact amount expended by They had a bill brought before them that day I°rtnight, and he regretted to say that they had certain reasons to find fault with nearly every one the items. The bill was for the conveyance of a j^Qatic from Aberystwyth to Carmarthen. The was a woman, and consequently it was Accessary to have a woman to accompany her she 8 violent, and therefore it was necessary that a gpliceman should also accompany them. There were •S»eref°re four tickets to go and three to come back. Jhe charge was made for four third class tickets to ,Pmarthen at so much, but they found the amount ended for each ticket was a less amount than that dually charged. By breaking his journey at Pen- der, and then taking another ticket to Carmarthen, y Was cheaper than if he took through tickets from ■^berygtwyth • but the officer charged the full fare, also 5s 8d for the policeman, while the fare was y 3s 6d. He believed that 10s 8d was charged -ore for railway fares than the sum expended by the jjjBcer. It was intended to have brought the bill i^fore the board and to have given the exact figures ,barged, and he was going to propose that the sum 5a allowed for his day's expenses should be dis- j^owed, but he now found that the ground had been from under their feet by the relations having wjd the bill. The Rev Prebendary Williams asked why the rations had not paid before ? Could the chairman 11 them who was the relieving officer alluded to ? The Chairman If it is the wish of the board. ifr C. M. Williams said he thought the full case >Md be put before the board, and that the officer ^oald have every fair play. He hoped the guardians *°nld always be consistent, and that they would ^*er make any distinction. ^The Rev J. Pugh asked if there was any reason V the relations should have paid ? %|The Chairman said he regretted to say that the was Mr J. Jones, Aberystwyth. -& Prebendary Williams I should like to ask the re- aving officer why he did not get the money from the Stives before ? jone8 Because the time was too short. Prebendary Williams Why did you go to the rela- tes after presenting the bill ? Jones Because I wanted to get as much as we hf1* from them, as we always do. v Prebendary Williams Who was the person (the ^tic) ? Jones The widow of David Jenkins, who has blrother in London, and a sister also in London. In reply to a question, The Chairman said he did not know who D. Jenkins but he was a sailor, and the woman was not in of out-door relief. 1tr C. M. Williams asked if it was usual to get as Z.ftch money as they could from relatives, and was tre any exception in this case ? s The Rev J. M. Griffiths said that if Jones had done best and got the money there would have been no sity to present the bill to the union but after e bill was disputed Mr Jones went to the relatives fish out the money, and got it. Mr C. M. Williams said that Mr Jones's explana- \)11 was that the time was too short. Prebendary Williams (to Mr Jones) Do you plead 1(1lty to this charge P Mr Jones I do not. Prebendary Williams Did you charge it ? \1:1' Jones That you have nothing to do with. i The Chairman Mr Jones presented the bill this 3*y fortnight for payment, and he never gave us the JJightest intimation that the pauper's relatives would **Pay us—he never gave us the slightest expecta- n. itr Jones After this day fortnight I went to see *bout her furniture. The Chairman The bill was produced here, and I ^R|ied my name in fall, but where it is now I can't ifr John Morgan Mr Jones took it way. Mr Jones No you refused to let me have it. Prebendary Williams Could we not report this ft so as to get an investigation into the whole er ? Itev J. M. Griffiths No, I would not do that. fc,The Chairman: He admitted to us this day fort- i Mr Jones: I paid the full fare in coming back; in going down there was a difference of about 4s. v Mr John Morgan: I am prepared to prove that Mr sdid not pay the full fare in coming back. Mr Jones: Have you got proof of that? Rev J. T. Griffiths Is the amount paid? The Chairman I can't tell. I asked that the bill ^Juld be kept. Mr Jones It was the regular fare I charged. ♦ The Chairman •. You admitted to me you charged fare and paid less. v J. M. Griffiths Who got the ticket for the officer? Mr Jones It was himself. ♦ The Rev J. M. Griffiths: Did Mr Jones give the amount (5a 8d) to the police officer in going down v* coming back ? The Chairman: He is not bound to answer that. ^Mr Jones I don't thiuk you ought to go into the ^prebendary Williams thought they ought to refer <3*8 matter for enquiry, so as to clear Mr Jones's eter. It was due to him that they should have independent inquiry. The Kev J. M. Griffiths said they wanted to prevent Repetition in future. *jMr Jones said there was a bill before them some- ago from one who was an officer in connection ,th the board, and several pounds were taken off his -L but there was no row or anything at all about it. .-The Chairman He was not an officer of the board, was discussed in the full board. wMrC. M. Williams He was Mr Hughes's under- trk J. M. Griffiths Was that a parallel case? *he Chairman No, not quite. he Clerk: He charged for his time. He was "h working for me, and I did not allow him his 's. v J. U. Griffiths This is a specific charge of ging something like 108 more than he actually "'1d. Jones That I do not admit. The Chairman You distinctly admitted it. tk v J. M. Griffiths: The very fact of your not pro- ving the bill shows that you admit it. Jones: The bill was in your hands; I don't £ w where it is. ^Mr John Morgan: You took the bill from my hand, '^J^e Chairman: My own opinion is that Jones has i^itted it, and he has acted very unwisely. It is IL if for the house committee to do their duty lL;"ey cannot trust their officers in a matter of this tion. David Jenkins Quite right. C. M. Williams very much regretted this, but fj~ibly Mr Jones thought he was justified in having lbonlY; but he wished that the board would 8 be 10 consistent, because when he brought a ^whare a sum was overcharged the whole thing (^Srman did not know to what Mr Williams tijeferring. C. M. Williams aaid he brought forward an of 41. Prebendary Williams said this wao a new board. Rev J. M. Griffithis said that Mr W illiams' charge could not be made against the great majority of the members of the finance committee. This was the first bill which they had refused to pay, and if Mr Jones had only benefited a little by his own ingenuity and tact probably no notice would be taken of it. Rev Prebendary Williams suggested that the officer should be reprimanded, and he hoped that this would be a warning to him in future. Rev J. M. Griffiths: We must have the officers to do their duty straight. Mr David Jones, Rest, quite agreed with the com- mittee, and they ought to be backed up in this matter. The Chairman said that since the new board the house committee had been a very strong one, and they did their work thoroughly. The matter then dropped. ELECTION OF MEDICAL OFFICER. In accordance with an advertisement which appeared in the local papers, the board proceeded to the election of a medical officer for Aberystwyth dis- trict and the workhouse consequent upon the Local Government Board refusing to sanction the appoint- ment of Dr Morris Jones. There were three applica- tions received-Dr Rees Davies, Dr Morris Jones, and Dr Rice Williams but the latter gentleman stated that if Mr Jones's application was entertained he would not oppose his re-election. Mr C. M. Williams remarked that it was rather a novel application. Rev J. M. Griffiths said it showed a very good spirit, that he would not oppose the re-election of an old officer. Mr C. M. Willihms asked if it was probable that the Local Government Board would sanction the appointment of Mr Jones. He referred to the letter read that day fortnight in which they refused to sanction or confirm the appointment for reasons which they all knew, and he asked if they were now going to play the part of children. Would it be dignified on the part of this board to act in this way ? Mr William Jones did not think they had anything to do with that. Mr C. M. Williams said they certainly had. He also read a letter received from the Local Govern- ment Board in 1883 complaining of Mr Jones's conduct. Several members displayed an impatience to pro- ceed, and after some conversation the election was proceeded with, Dr Rice Williams's name being withdrawn. The result of the ballot was Dr Morris Jones 24 Dr Rees Davies 6 I Mr John Morgan proposed, and Mr E. J. Morgan seconded, the election of Dr Morris Jones as medical officer for the urban district; and the Rev J. M. Griffiths proposed, and Mr David Lewis seconded, that he be elected medical officer for the workhouse. Both resolutions were agreed to. Mr C. M. Williams gave notice that at the next meeting he should move that the Local Government Board be asked to hold an enquiry into the conduct of Dr Morris Jones. He had called attention to an amputation case at Borth, where X2 was charged, whereas only .£1 should have been charged. He also asked the clerk whether he had sent up the vaccina- tion books to London ? The Clerk Yes, I did. Mr C. M. Williams And you have had them back ? The Clerk No, I have not. Mr T. Smith And Mr Joseph Morgan as well. Mr David Jenkins suggested that the whole lot that had done badly should have an enquiry held over them (laughter). Mr C. M. Williams I am only dealing with charges that I found out myself. Mr T. Smith You wanted to save Joseph Morgan from first to last. MrC. M. Williams No, I certainly did not. The Chairman asked Mr C. M. Williams if there was not a difficulty in his way ? He could not hold an enquiry on the conduct of a man who was not in the service of the board. Mr C. M. Williams said he gave notice in order to discuss it. The Chairman He's no longer a servant of the board. From this minute he is to be treated as a new man. Mr William Jones said that if Mr Williams was going to make a proposition he would give notice that he should propose an amendment that they refuse to ask for an enquiry. The matter then dropped. TREAT TO THE CHILDREN. The Master made an application on behalf of Mr and Mrs J. T. Morgan that the children should be allowed to go to Nantceirio on Tuesday, and remain there until about ten o'clock at night, so that they might see the bonfire, &a. Permission was granted, and the thanks of the board were accorded to Mr and Mrs Morgan. OVERSEERS' BONDSMEN. The Clerk reported that he had been in communica. tion with the overseers, requiring them to find proper securities.




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