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CARDIFF COUNCIL. m ELECTION OF MAYOR. APPOINTMENT OF EDUCA- TION COMMITTEES. THEMAYOWSBANQUE A BREEZE. The Council met on Saturday, the Mayor (Ald. D. Jones) in the cKair. Th'3re were present Aldermen Lewis, Taylor, Cory, Fulton, Jacobs, Yoratb, Waring, D. E. Jones, and Carey, and Councillors Sanders, T. B.eei", Vaughan, E. Bearan, Sir M. Morgan, Ramsdale, Reynolds, Trounce, Proger, Bird, R. Price, Brain, W. U. Hurley, Shackell, P. Price, A. Rees, Jotbam, Riches, Mildon, F. J. Beavan, Herue, Lewis, Richards, P. Morel, J. Tucker, Carr, and Smith. THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. The Town Clerk reported the result of the elec- ticns Messrs Hurley and Smith having been elected the West Ward; Messrs Rees and Riches for the East Ward Messrs Moel and Tucker for the South Messrs Sanders and Mildon for Canton and Messrs Ramsdale and Shackell for Roath. The formal declarations were made by those of the newly-elected members Who were present. GENERAL DISTRICT RATE. It was decided to make a rate of Is in the £ on 9th December next. An order was received from the treasurer of the County Council of Glamorgan- shire for the payment of the sum of £3,977 16s 4d, being the average annual amount which, during three years next before 1st April, 1839, has been contributed by the county borough of Cardiff to the county of Glamorgan. Mr Wheatley said that this was the last time this amount would be paid. There would be a final adjustment of accounts between the bodies within 12 months after the Act came into operation. THE PAVING OF BUTEROAD. Alderman LEWIS brought forward the ques- tion of paving Bute-road with granite setts, and asked, on behalf of the committee, that the Corporation would fortify them with their consent. Mr F. J. BEAVAN suggested that the con- sideration of the, question should be deferred nA month. He remarked that the saving of IIIWOQ a year by using setts was not the most pressing consideration. They had to consider the feeling of the people living along the road. They had petitioned against the proposal, and there could be no doubt that their business would not only be injured, but even be stopped altogether. Mr S. A. BRAIN concurred. The macadamised road was more expensive, but on the whole much better. Mr T. REES suggested that the roads should be laid with blocks of heart of oak. Mr RIQHES thought it would be better to open up a second route to the docks for carts and heavy traffic. A bridge might be thrown over the branch of the canal on the East Wharf, and anew road would be easily obtainable. It was decided to adopt Mr Beavan'a recom- mendation. RE-ORGANISATION OF THE POLICE FORCE. On the minutes of the Watch Committee being presented, the MAYOR referred to the re-organization of the police force, particu lars as to which have already been published. He stated that the re-organization would improve the position of the force, and would induce a higher class of men to come forward for service therein. The total increase In the cost would be J6362 annually.—The minutes were adopted. THE CERTIFIED PLUMBERS. On the consideration of the minutes of the Waterworks Committee, containing a list of recommended working plumbers, Mr THOMAS Ens asked what test. was made with the object of ascertaining tha qualification. The MATOH answered that in each case they had presented recommendations certify- ing their fitness. With the exception of one, all had been placed on the list who had applied. Many of them had received certificates from the Plumbers'Guild in London. (Hear, hear.) INTERMEDIATE AND TECHNICAL ) EDUCATION. COMMITTEES APPOINTED. The report of the Town Clerk upon the Welsh Intermediate Education Act and the Technical Instruction Act was taken as read. The substance of the report has already appeared in these columns. The first duty of the council was to appoint a committee of three persons for carrying out the Intermediate Act. The council have the power to appoint three out of five members of the committee, the other two being nominated by the President of the Couucil, Ouce appointed, the counci would have no power to control the committee's proceedings. Councillor SANDERS considered that in a matter of so much importance they should take time for consideration. Was there any reason why they should deal with it at once? The MAYOB Is there any reason why we should not r Councillor CARB could conceive of only one reason. Decision might net have been reached as to the best means of furthering certain ends, and for the interests of education it would be better that the matter should not be deferred. He had no sympathy with lobbying or anything of that sort. Councillor SANDERS I withdraw my suggestion. Councillor CARR declared that he was not speaking of anything Mr Sanders might do or had doue, but contended there had been ample notice of the business and ample time for con- sideration of the matter. Councillor P. PRICE supported Mr Sanders, be- lieving there bad not been sufficient time to consider the matter. He repudiated the idea of lobbying, or of doing anything in the interest of any party. There would be something like £8,000 a year placed at the disposal of these three geutle- men, and he felt overwhelmed with the impor- tance of the qlJAl!tion before them. Alderman TAYLOR pointed out that there wonld not be £8,000 tor that committee alone. £2,500 went to the tree iihrary; intermediate education would have £1,250 from the rates and an equal amount from Government technical education would have a penny rate, equal to £2,500; and Wells' Charity would contribute about JE650. That would come to over £8,000, but would not be under one committee. He deprecated delay. The MAYOR then formally moved, and Alder- man TAYLOR seconded, that the committee be appointed. 1 Councillor P. PRICE submitted an amendment— the appointment be made on November 9rh, ¡o\ :bis was seconded by Alderman D.E.JONES. Councillor F. J. BEAVAN remarked that the functions of the committee were very clearly defiued that they were appointed for only three years and that they had to prepare a scheme before anything else was done. In reply to Mr SANDERS, the Town Clerk said that the persons chosen need not necessarily be members of the council. The amendment was then put to the vote, and was lost by 24 votes to 9. Some discussion then arose as to the mode in which the members of the education committee should bc1 nominated, and it was decided that the practice in the election of aldermen should be followed, each member of the council writing on paper the three names he chose. Upon the vote being taken Mr Bird was found to have secured 18, Mr Sanders 17, and Mr T. Rees 17. Mr CARR I take it these three name are to be voted ou ? The MAYOR: I take it that the vote has been taken. Mr CARR suggested that the names having the lowest votes should be eliminated, there being several who had received fewer votes than the three gentlemen named. He desired that the gentlemen selected should have the votes of a clear majority of the council; otherwise they would represent only a minority. It was an unheard-of thing that three members of one political party should be chosen. Mr SANDERS: We adopted a plan after careful consideration and, after the issue is seen, then we are charged with motives, and a new election is asked for. Sir MORGAN MORGAN argued that the represen- tatives chosen should have a clear majority of the council. Mr RAMSDALE I moved that it be taken in the lame way as the aidermanic elections, and the result is as we have seen. Dr TAYLOR: I accept the decision. T TOWN CLERK pointed out that in the elec- tion of aldermen tholie who received the highest number of votes were elected, whether they had a clear majority of the council or not. The MAYOR ruled that the election had taken Mr CARR: I protest against this election as invalid, and I shall take any course I can to upset M. The MAYOB Just so. You are quite at liberty to do that, but you will do what has never been done in any case of the kind. Mr CARR: I give formal notice that I protest. The TOWN CLERK then proceeded to read the resolution be bad drawn up to giv3 effect to the yote. Mr CARR asked if he could move an amendment. The MAYOR pointed out that the town clerk was merely making a recital of what had been done. He did not think an amendment could be submitted. Mr CARR: I claim the right to move an amend- ment. Sir MORGAN MORGAN: Will you elect these three gentlemen witiiout putting the resolution to the meeting and if you put it to the meeting, should you not allow an amendment to be put ? You cannot elect these gentlemen except by resolution. The MAYOB The result has been arrived at by a form of election similar to that of electing aldermen. Sir MORGAN MORGAN: In electing aldermen, you are simply carrying out as provided by Act of Parliament. Here it is a different thing. You bave to elect by resolution that resolution you are bound to submit to the council, and an amend- ment may be allowed. Mr CARR objected to the resolution read out by the town clerk as not being the decision come to by the council. The MAYOR I think it M. Sir MORGAN MORGAN We simply signed the pieces of paper with three names on. There is no resolution. The MAYOR If it had been a committee of any other kind, you would bave accepted it as final. Sir MORGAN MORGAN contended that he had the right to express his views, but the chair—and lie had all respect for the chair-bad no right to my what he might or might not dc. The MATOB I accept your explanation, sir. t the same time I cannot move from what I have jaid. This elosed the incident." Upon the Council proceeding to elect a com- mittee of 13 to carry out the provisions of the Technical Instruction Act, 1889. Mr RICHES proposed, and Mr CARR seconded, that the elected members should get a clear majority. Mr SANDERS asked whether it was necessary that in their committees there must be 13 persons on the committee, because it was evident that they must reduce numbers, otherwise some of them would be driven to death. Mr WHEATLEY explained that the standing order of the Couucil expired to-day, and others would have to be adopted. The present one was that no member should serve on more than four committees. It was decided to postpone the election of the committee until the meeting of the General Purposes Committee at the end of the Council ) meeting, i Later on, after the Council had resolved itself into a meeting of the General Purposes Com- mittee, Mr T. REES said that in order to bring about a more amicable understanding, he would withdraw from the Education Committee in favour of Dr Taylor. This was ultimately agreed to. Alderman TArLOR thanked Mr Rees and the Council for appointing him. He agreed that both sides should be represented, and he would be glad to do all that he could in aid of the object they had in view. The following were elected members of the Technical Instruction Committee The Mayor, Alderman D. Jones. Alderman Taylor, Council- lors Riches, T. Rees, Shackell, Ramsdale, Peter Price, Smith, Carr, Trounce, Herne, Hurley. SEVERN NAVIGATION. Consideration of a letter on this subject, from the Town Cierk of Worcester, was deierred till the deputation from Worcester, with Cardiff traders, waited upon the council. ELECTBIC LIGHTING. Letters were read from the British Electrical Engineering Company, Limited, and the Electric Construction and Maintenance Company,Limited, requesting the corporation to reconsider their decision to oppose all applications for pro- visional orders to supply electricity in Cardiff, and were ordered to lie on the table. THE MAYORAL BANQUET. Mr CARR proposed that the mayor's banquet, hitherto held on the 9ch November in each year, should in future be discontinued. He said that he bad been driven to propose this resolution much against his will, because it was interfering with an old custom. He considered, however, that the custom would be better honoured in the breach. The present system was neither justified by principle nor expediency. If they thought that the office of mayor should go by seniority, and he was sure they did, then the heavy expenses attaching to the occasion would preclude a poor man or a working man from aspiring to the office. (Hear, hear.) That a banquet should be given by the mayor to 180 people was an insult to the 16,000 ratepayers who were not invited. It was high time thare was a change, and if the town clerk would not take the matter up, he himself would. (Hear, hear.) Mr TUCKER seconded. A number of tradesmen would, he remarked, like to attend the dinner, but they found they were boycotted. His desire was to popularise this annual banquet and make it worthy of the occasion. Mr RAMSDALE moved, by way of amendment, that the council, while not offering any objection to the discontinuance in the future of the banquet, declines to fetter in any way the absolute discre- tion of the mayor for the time being in the matter. He thought that the maycr should have discre- tionary power in matters of that description. It was arrogating to themselves the functions of the mayor, and would not be creditable to the man who was appointed. (Hear, hear.) Sir MORGAN MORGAN was a true Conservative, and did not like to do away with any of the old institutions, especially such a good tiling as the mayor's banquet. It did a great deal of good. They fought very hard iu November, and it was a pleasant gathering when ttieir differences were temporarily settled. It was only fair to let the mayor do as he liked. (Hear, hear.) It was the sort of thing which gave him the opportunity of bringing a lot of people together who otherwise would not be brought together. Alderman CORY agreed with the resolution. The banquet had been on his conscience for a very long time. (Laughter.) It was the squandering of a large sum of money which would be better applied if the mayor was not fettered as be was. Their chief magistrate was bound by old custom, and it would be difficult for him to get out of it unless there were such a resolution as this. (Hear, bear.) Mr BRAIN spoke "as an old crusted Tory, fund of a good dinner." By adopting the resolution they would not be doiug away with the banquet, but instead would have another which would be a fitting close to a long year of office. The dinner had been a source of great unpleasantness. Mr BIRD thought that it would do away also with the mayor's salary. The question of the dinner became more and more difficult as the population increased. Alderman WARING said that it was only returning to an old practice. About 35 years ago he attended his first mayoral banquet, aud, after the cloth was removed, every one was expected to hand half-a-guinoa to the waiter as a contribution to the expense. (Laughter.) Alderman LEWIS did not see where the great objection to the dinner lay, because every penny was spent in the town. The fatal objection to the proposal was that if they had a mayor who was of mediocre ability and was not popular, he would not get bis dinner well attended. (Hear, hear.) A vote was then taken, with the result that the amendment was lost by 16 to 23. Alderman TAYLOR proposed that the dinner be held as usual, but that anybody who liked could come on payment of 10.; 6d. There was no seconder to this. Mr CARB then moved that a subscription banquet in honour of the retiring mayor be arranged by the town clerk, the price of tickets not to exceed 109 6d per head exclusive of wines. Mr BRAIN seconded. Mr VAUGHAN said that if the working men were considered the price should be 2s 6J. Mr T. REES would have no objection to have a subscription dinner to the ingoing mayor. If they had an unpopular mayor, it would be cruel to submit him to the possibilities of the dinner. He moved that the word "ingoing" replace outgoing." Alderman CORY seconded the amendment, which was carried by 16 to 14. The resolution thus amended was then carried. ELECTION OF MAYOR. The council having resolved itself into a general purposes committee, Tue MAYOR (Alderman D. Jones) stated that the next business was the election of mayor, and he invited the members of the council to write upon paper the name of the gentleman they voted for. The papers having been collected, all, except one (which was for Alderman R. Cory), were found to be in favour of Councillor W. S-iuders, The MAYOR, having read out the result of the voting, saiO It has been usual, in order to fortify the new mayor for his work, that a paper should be sent round, and signed Councillor SANDERS (interrupting) said he wished to address the council before that was done. He hoped he rightly and duly appreciated the honour of being selected first magistrate of this large town. No one could appreciate the honour more highly than he did but before the matter was settled he must say one or two things. He had bad to say something about the banquet, but that was gone. (Hear, bear.) He felt that in entering upon the position of mayor he should enter upon it with very great danger of misleading more than one of those whose respect he thoroughly esteemed. They differed in their views, and he felt that, holding the views he did —and which ho dared not sacrifice—it would be only right to intimate some of them before allowing the council to commit itself to a voce. The vote was everything that a man could desire; but if be felt afterwards that, bad his intentions been known, some members would not have voted for him, then be should never bold that position with entire confidence. He held very strong views with regard to the drink question. He wished to push his views down no man's throat; and he wished to be free from having other people's views pushed down his throat. If he accepted the office of mayor, they would have to do without drinks for the year. -(Hear, hear, "Ob, no," and laughter.) If they felt it would be injurious to the town to have as mayor a man holding the views be did, be asked them not to feel bound by the votes they had given. He himself did not think the town would suffer ho believed it would be benefitted. (Hear, hear.) The city of New- castle had managed to get through the year before last with a. mayor holding those views; Sheffield had re-elected a mayor holding such opinions; and the Lord Mayor of York had taken the position he (Mr Sanders) intended to take up, and had done so with honour. Before anything was done in the way of signing the paper be wished them to understand bis position and intentions, and to feel perfectly free. He should still work in the corporation if they thought it not for the good of the town that he should be elected mayor. There was another matter, a very important point. The question of salary had been named, and he had something to say about that. He had said to friends that he hoped when this matter was con- sidered it would be considered in the broadest and freest sense, for the good of the town, not consider- ing him at all. A new era commenced that day the banquet in the ordinary sense had been done away with—he should have had to say some very strong things about it it it had not been. Certainly, with him as mayor, no banquet would have been held, to be paid for out of the rate- payers' money. It was said that the banquet cost £230, and the mayor's salary was J6300, and why vote the salary if the biggest cost was taken from it ? Very well what he bad to say was this For the year he should occupy the position he should much prefer no salary at all. (Hear, hear.) He thought he saw his way—and would not accept the office if he did not—to do without the salary. If, in their united wisdom, the council thought it better that the salary should be voted, he should take care, so far as it was put into bis hands, that it should go to objects where the money was needed, and needed badly, too. (Hear, hear.) If they did not think it wise to vote the salary, they would not grieve him; they would not offend him at all. Looking at it from a selfish point of view, he should be better pleased if they did not vote the salary, because everybody knew he was the poor man,the mediocre man, pictured ;ust previously by Aid. Lewis—(Aid. Lewis No, no ")—and would not expect great things from him. (Laughter.) If they voted £200, JB300, or £4-00, there would never be an eud to it, and be didn't know how be should get through the year at all. Ha had named all this openly, bad dealt frankly and honourably and freely with them, and be left the matter in their bands. In some other towns there were mansion houses, where the hospitality of the town could be offered, and in this new departure they in Cardiff might consider the advisability of appointing a hos* pitalities committee, to take from the mayor the onus of entertaining in the name of the town. When previously he proposed to do away with the banquet, be had before him the idea of this com, mittee, considering it a wrong thing to say that the mayor should provide, that being the duty of the corporation, that the hospitalities of the town should be done at the expense of the town, with an account showing clearly what was expended, and the ratepayers suld be able to say Yes" or No fis^n time to time, as new members were electee, as to the ex- penditure. This was a poor man's question. The time was coming when there must be representa- tives from that class in the chamllpr. The poorer man might be the cleverest £ #n in the whole council; and be (Mr Sanders) wi »ied things to be so arranged that that man might be voted to the mayoralty, and the suggestion he now made as to a hospitalities committee would help to that end. All he would add was that if they elected him mayor, be should try to do his duty and to serve the town in the best way he could. (Applause.) Dr TAYLOR, as the senior alderman ot the cor- poration, replied, and stated that what Councillor Sanders had said was what he expected would be said. He fully expected Mr Sanders to say, when elected mayor, that he would not provide a banquet, for he bad known Mr Sanders some years and was aware of his views. He was quite sure every member of the corporation would sup- port him now as thoroughly as before be made his statement. (Hear, bear, and applause.) Mr BRAIN firmly believed that, so far as the trade was concerned, they would support Mr Sanders in upholding the dignity of Cardiff and of the council; and in the event of occasion aris- ing for exhibiting hospitality to visitors, he (Mr Brain) would be delighted to support Mr Sanders in any way he considered right. Mr REES asked if the council were to under- stand that Mr Sanders wished to dispense with the salary. Mr SANDERS You may do as you choose about that. After further remarks the MAYOR said, amid applause: I may venture to assure Councillor Sanders that the nomination has been unanimous. COMMITTEES. The council then proceeded to elect the com- mittees for the ensuing year. It was decided that the general purposes should form the entertain- ments, with power to delegate the details to a sub-committee. The property and markets com- mittee was amalgamated with the open spaces and allotments committee.

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