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LLANDUDNO GUARDIAN j SOCIETY. ANNUAL MEETING AND REPORT. The annual meeting of the Llandudno Guardian Society was held at the Offices of the secretaries and Siolioitors (Messrs. Henderson and Hallmark) on Tuesday afternoon, Mr Alec Taylor presiding over a fair attendance. THE ANNUAL REPORT. Mr Hallmark submittted the appended report Your Committee once more have pleasure in congratulating you on the growth of the 'Society. The membership now reaches a t-ot,41, of 120, which is the highest it has ever reached. There are also several new members in prospect for next year. To our mind, this is the best possible proof that the Society is doing good work and that its services are recog- nised and appreciated. This is also shewn by the fact, that the resignations are very few, and those which are received are almost invariably owing to death or re- tirement. Your Secretaries were present in Lon- don to represent the Society at, the an- nual meeting of the Association of Trade Protection Societies of the United Kingdom (to which your Society is affili- ated) and the Secretaries' Conference, Several important subjects were dealt wiith at the Secretaries' Conference, and tangible progress was made with many suggestions for increasing and facilitating the arrangements for mutual intercom- muniiaattion between the Affiliated Societies. The meeting of the Associa- tion was very largely attended and in- cluded many eminent public men from all parts of the British Isles. The sub- jects discussed were many and varied, and included Bankruptcy, County Courts, Fire Inshrance, Companies Acts, Postal Re- form, Shops Bill, Trade Board Bill, Sun- day Closing Bill, Ministry of Commerce, Canals and Waterways, Income Tax, Co- operative Societies, Railway Amalgama- tions, Owners' Riisk, Daylight Saving Bill and other matters. All these are subjects of vitiaii import- ance to business. men and the com- munity in general, and it frequently hap- pens that amendments or additions to legislative proposals are brought aifoout by representations from these meetings being* made tc, Ministers and Private Members of Parliament. Your Committee have met from time to time and have devoted tiheir attention to various matters affecting, the trade of LJ&ndiudno and the country in general. Among oitlier things which they have con- sidered and discussed are the following: BANKRUPTCY LAW AMEND- MENTS. On this subject a deputation of mem- bers of Chambers of Commerce and Affiliated Trade Protection Societies waited upon the President of tihe Board of Trade. Your Committee passed a re- solution supporting" the recommendations for the amendment of the existing law, which that deputation laid before the President of tihe Board of Trade. RAILWAY RATES. Your Committee have continued to give attention to this matter, especially to the rates charged for oeflbain dasses of goods. Your Committee have also supported from its inauguration the movement for the extension of the conceal searson in Llandudno. At ;an early st<age in the arrangements your Secretary, on the in- structions of the Committee, circularised the members asking' for their support to the movement. Several members of the Sioiciety, including some members of your Committee, and your Secretary acted on the Committee, which had charge of the 1:> arrangements for tihe concerts, and it is gratifying to know that. their efforts have been attended with success. It is hoped that the balance which they have in hand uill enable them to' carry on the concerts for q, s,tiil further period next year. Two general meejtings of the Society have been held during the year to discuss the question of the scale of charges for the recovery of debt's due to members of the Society. After very careful thought a b new arrangement has been arrived at, of which notice has been sent to every mem- ber. iIt: is hoped that this arrangement will be to t,hehenefit of members, and will induce; them to support the Society loyally themselves and get their friends to become members. Owing to the decision of the Courts in the case of Macintosh v. Dunn. the Com- mittee of the Assoccated Societies deemed it advisable to have the question of the liability of the Affiliated iSooietiites made perfectly clear, and they therefore laid a, A case before Mr Tindal Atkinson. K.C., for his opinion. His opinion was to the effect thai societies of the. character of your society, being mutual, were distinct from the ordinary mercantile agency, and were therefore not covered by the de- cision in the case and were not liable to an action for .status reports made by them. This should bring home to the public, more than ever the desirability of joining mutual societies such as yours, as by doing so. they alb solve themselves from the risk which they undoubtedly run if they communicate information to agencies run by private individuals not on a mutual basis. The 14th annual dinner* was held at the Imperial Hotel on Friday, the 2!7t,h of N ovemhel" 1908, when the chair was occupied by your President (Mr Alec Taylor). Mir "Ellis J. Griffith, M.P., was your gUESj of the evenip.g, and proposed the principal toiasit, which was responded to by Mr Gi. A. Humphreys and Dr. Gooddy. The attendance was excellent, as usual, no fewer than 117 members and friends being present. In spifce of the depression in trade aLl over the country, Llandudno may 'con- gratulate itself upon having more than held its own in competition with other pleasure resorts, and there is every in- ducement to look forward to a prosperous year in 1010. Your Committee conclude by expressing the hope that members will have these expectations realised. ELECTION OF OFFICERS. Mr Aleio Taylor said that in accord- ance with precedent he had pleasure in proposing that Dr. Davies, the vice- president, (be the President for the ensu- ing year. During his year of office as vice-president he had given a great deal of attention to the affairs of the Society, and he was sure it would continue to prosper under his presidency.—(Ap- plause.) Dr. Davies having been unanimously elected, proposed a vote of thanks to the retiring president (Mr Alelc Taylor) who had assiduously attended to his duties during his terms of office.-He,ar, hear.) The proposition was carried amidst ap- plause. Mr Taylor, in responding, said he was convinced that the Society was large- I ZD ly responsible for the high place Llan- dudno held in Commerce throughout the country. The icrieldit of the town was never higher than at the present time.— (Hear, hear.) On the proposition of Mr C. H. Bevan, seconded by Mr Joseph Winter, Mr Alec G. Moy was elected vice-president. Mr J. 0. Thomas was unanimously re- elected treasurer, and Messrs. Henderson and Hallmark secretaries and solicitors. The following gentlemen were elected to form the committee —Messrs, Alec Taylor, W. Arnold, W. R. Brookes, C. H. Bevan, Howel Jones, J. H. Jones, E. P. Morris, John Roberts, R. Dunpihy, Joseph Winter, and C1. Hi. Bowdage. The annual dinner will take place at the Imperial Hotel on Friday evening, December 10th, when it is anticipated there will be a record attendance.

THE LOSS OF £:1620. To the Editor .Six*,—May I crave Iii; small space in your valuable columns as in face of the Council's resolution re the above I am prompted (not by any vindictive feeling) but in justice to my co-ratepayers who are evidently apathetic and wanting in courage to insist upon having at least more sympathy shown them in the loss of what meant (to my knowledge) depriva- tion of ordinary necessities of life to en- able them to pay rates, and if our in- terests are to be so neglected and our losses so liightly treated it behoves us to demand that some stringent measure be adopted to protect (if I may term it) our pockets in future, as with having a short season and out throat prices we cannot afford to lose one penny. The ludicrous remarks of the Chairman of she Wiaiter Committee are adding .i. to injury. If as he says the blame rested upon the late Hugh Jones, then of necessity he must apply the same, argu- ment to every person in the Council's employ, whether he be scavenger or roadman, and such being the case what duties arei delegated to the Surveyor and his two assistants? Are, they not, the heads of their departments and re- sponsihlel to the Council for the due per- formance of the various duties assigned to the men under their supervision? May I ask the Chairman of the Water Committee if these accounts are initialled before submission to the Accountant, and if so by whom ? and if not why not ? and further is it time that in two prominent business houses here the electric meter dial in one case revolved reversely and indicated little or no consumption, whereas a considerable amount was utilized, and in the. other case a gas con- sumer paid for a very light quarter £ 7, and for a remarkably heavy one £2, so I ask in common fairness what system of checking is this? Although in the minorjity I thank Councililor Sarson for his honesty of purpose, and can prove from statistics in my possession relating to over 100 towns in England and Wales with populations ranging from 11,274 to 370,000 that it is the rule (and not the exception) for the Surveyor and En- gineer to not onily -check but initial all sheets, vouchers, etc., etc. Otherwise, who does the Auditor hold responsible for their accuracy? And I again main- tain that as we have more Surveyors than other towns with a population of 11,000. surely this work could have been carried out by one of the three. Truly, as Councillor1 Robt. Roberts said, and I thank him, we fully expected a. comprehensive report would have been submitted to the Council dealing with this loss and steps to be adopted to prevent a recurrence of such blunders. But xxo Not a word, and what is more regrettable that the business cannot he 'Carried on without indulging' in personalities. Pos- sibly the Chairman of the Water Com- mittee can enlighten me which is the greater sin, disieussing a subject in a Public Bar or in a Licensed Restaurant ? As the result of an enquiry a wholesale reduction of sailary and drastic rules for the future working of one or two depart- ments have followed at a neighbouring Council, ancl in face of depressed trade etc.. several Metropolitan Councils have made sweeping reductions, not, only in salaries but also in the number of offi- cials,, and in view of tihe great, poverty existing here and the icry,of the Secretary of the Chariltv Association for funds I maintain there are too, many ornamental pillars in and around the Council Cham- ber, and this can only be corroborated bv instituting a, searching and impartial en- quiry into the workings and doings of all departments under the control of the Council. Yours respectfully, T. INMAN JONES, C.E., Architect and Surveyor. Anneddle, Llandudno, November 24th 1909.

LLANDUDNO COUNCIL AND 1 THE TRAMWAY COMPANY SETTLEMENT OF THE! DISPUTE. The dispute between the Llandudno Urban District Council and the Llan- dudno and Colwyn Bay Tramway Com- pany over the charges for electric cur- rent has now been settled on terms which the majority of ratepayers wiU consider satisfactory. It will 'be remembered that the Com- pany agreed to pay for the electric cur- rent they consumed according to a graduated scale of charges. The Coun- cil .contended that the scale should apply every yearn, whereas the Company main- tained that once having reached the low- est rate that should be the rate charged for all the current taken. The words per annum had not been inserted in the agree xxxent although the Council was unani- mous in the opinion that' when the agree- ment was arrived at, it was understood that, the whole scale wa,s to apply annually. Another point, which haid to be con- sidered was the action of the Council in insisting on the Company paying £ 1000 for the firist twelve months after the Company had given the Council notice of its requirements. When the notice was given the Company contemplated being able to run the cears early in the season, but it was not until OCitoiber that a. regular service was inaugurated. Consequently the value of current taken did not amount to P,400, the Company paying the balance after endeavouring to obtain a remission of the amount. The Council insisted on the agreement being .strictly adhered to when it came to paying for the next quar- ter's supply; so did the Company, for the words "per annum" haying been left, out of the agreement they had, so to speak, the whip hand. The matter in due course found its way into the law courts, the Tramway Com- pany being the defendants. As a result of a conference between the Council's re- presentatilves and the Company the fol- lowing agreement was arrived at' last week: 1. The defendants agree that as from this date the agreement made between the plaintiffs of the one part and the defen- dants of the other part shall take effect in accordance with the terms of the de- claration claimed in paragraph one of the statement fof claim delivered in this action. 2. The defendants shall pay to the plaintiff,st forthwith the sum of R,500 in satisfaction, of the costs incurred in the action. 3. The Company shall be entitled on giving one month's notice to require the Council to arrange as soon as may be convenient for a poll by ballot of the ratepayers being taken by the plaintiffs at the defendants' expense to determine whether permision shaill be granted for the cars of the defendants to run within the district of the plaintiffs on Sundays. But, such poll shall only be taken between the months of October and March. No poll after the first shall be taken within three years after the declaration of the previous poll. Clause one means that words per annum shall be inserted in the agreement and a difference, of hundreds of pounds to the revenue of the electric light works. The Council relinquished its claim to charge on the higher scale from the termination of the first year to the date of the agree- ment. As to clause three the question of the Sunday running of cars is thrown directly on the ratepayers, and can only be raised once every three years should the fitist poll be adverse to Sunday run- ning. The Council's representlatlves at the settlement were Messrs. McMaster and E. E. Bone, with Mr A. Conolly and Mr H. Morton, and they were heartily thanked at the monthly meeting of the Council on Wednesday, on the motion of Mr W. 0. Williams, and seconded by Mr James Marks. v

THE MISSIONARY EXHIBITION AT LLANDUDNO. Great interest is being taken in the Missionary Eixhibiitioix, which is to be opened, in the Pier Basement on Mon- day next. Although directly controlled by the Baptist Missionary Society every denomina,tion in the town has joined in promoting its success. Mr Wm. Jones, M.P., wiU be the principal speaker at the opening on Monday, and the Right Hon. Lord Mostyn is announced to preside. The week has been I o e cl asi f O'lliows;: -Church of England. Day, Tuesday; Welsh C.M. and Presbyterian Day, Wednesday; Clon- gregatioixal Day, Thursday; Wesley an Day, Friday; Children's and Zenana. Day, Saturday. On Saturday, November 27th, there will be a demonstration and procession through the town. A number of xnissionariieis and lecturers will give' ten minutes chats, in the courts-, and on Monday a lecture on Congoland, illus- trated by living pictures, will be given by the Rev. J. R. M. Stephens. The secre- tariesa,re Mr Willoug-hby Lance and Mr Pryse Williams, who will give any further information desired.

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