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COAST EROSION AT (I I.LANDUDNO GROYNES TO BE ERECTED TO SlAVE: SRINGLLEi. At, the monthly meeting of Llandudno Council on Wednesday, Mr W. H. Jones in the chair, the following resolution passed at a meeting of the Works Com- mittee was read, which had been arrived at with a, view to preventing! any further shifting of the shinglei:To fix three groynes of Russian oiak piles with creosoted pitch pine planks, each groyne to be 100 feet long', in the following' posi- tions, namely: -,1 opposite the centre of Mostyn Orescent^ 1 opposite west, end of N'evill Crescent, and 1 opposite. the east of Neviil Cfresceiut, at an estimated cost of £ 150." Mr Pierce Jones said he entirely dis- agreed with the placing of groynes on the 'beach, and to do so would! he one, of the biggest mistakes the Council could make. If members of the Council wanted to see what groynes were like they should take a tram to Colwyn Bay. He had been there after a storm to see the effect, and saw that Colwyn Bay had suffered more damage than Llandudno had done. The proposal would not only mean throwing £ 150 away, but would damage the, fore- shore, which was at present the finest beach in the country. He proposed that the recommendation be deleted. Mr Robt. Roberts, although not agree- ing with all that Mr Pierce Jones had said, felt that the question might be left for the present until more experience, had been gained. 'The Works Committee seem- ed to have made up its mind all of a sudden to recommend these groynes, which he thought had been abandoned. Mr Marks said the experiment seemed a rather costly one. He felt that the merits of reinforced concrete had not, been sufficiently considered. The, Borough Surveyor of Blackpool had told him that it would ibei very unwise to erect timber groynes on the foreshore. Occasionally they did result in an accumulation on the weather side, but there was a cor- responding scooping out on the leeward. He thought the wiser course would be to spend £50 on a single groyne. Mr Hugh Edwards said that since the question was discussed three years ago more concrete steps and an apron had been put on the promenade, but the beach was getting worse and something would ha,ve to be done. He was not originally in favour of the (groynes, but they appear- ed to be the onily thing; possible to save the beach. Mr C'hantrey sat-d that Mr Pierce Jones lived opposite the place where the beach was gioin down by feet not inches. Mem- bers of the Works Committee seemed to have a, great objection to meeting outside, and only five. were present, when the shore was inspected. The. five present were, however, unanimous in making the recom- mendation. As chairman of the Works Cbmmittee he had watched very carefully the action of the waves on the shore. Any- one watching the waves when a north-west wind was blowing could see that stones were carried in the direction of the Little Olrme. Mr Pierce Jones said that during the last few days hundreds of tons of shingle had come, back. Mr W. O. Williams said he had made it his business to watch the shore, and found it was getting worse. Something would have to be done at once. He also had been to Colwyn Bay, and arrived at the '-conclusion that, the groynes there answered admirably. Mr David Davies said that if Mr Marks would propose an amendment to erect one groynei onily he would second it. The Chairman said he had been to Col- wyn Bay on purpose to see the effect of the groynes, and found that they had been successful in,colle,eting, the shingle. Mr W. Thomas said the, question had been shitrked too long, and that whatever experiment was tried it would be sure to amount to E150. Groynes had been adopts ed at almost every seaside resort, and were undoubtedly very unsightly. But something would have to be done, so he would support the recommendation of the committee. Mr Beaumont also supported the recom- mendation, and in reply to questions the Surveyor read extracts from the report he presented to the Council in 1907, and stated that since 1906 the shore had fallen eleven inches opposite Clonmel Street, ten inches opposite Vaughan Street, ten inches opposite Mostyn CSrescent, fifteen inches opposite Penrhyn Crescent, and six inches opposite the Hippodrome. Mr McMaster: Can the Surveyor telll us where the shingle has gone 1 The Surveyor It has gone to Oraigy- do-n.—(Cries of "Shame.") After some further discussion the re- commendation of the Works Committee was adopted.


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