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A LOCAL BANKRUPTCY. UNSUCCESSFUL, SPECULATIONS. IR. ROBINSON KAY'S EXAMINA- TION. At the Bangor Bankruptcy Court on Thursday, the second inst., before Mr Registrar Glynne. Jones, the Official Receiver (Mr LI. Hlugh Jones) examined publicly Robinson Ka-y, late of the Washington Hotel, Craigydon, Llandudno. The bankrupt had returned accounts showing a deficiency of £ 5,583, and had attributed! his failure to losses in connection with the North Wales Hotels Company and the Craigydon Land Clom- pany. He is 49 years of age, and now re- sides at Deganwy. In 1895 he became tenant of the Washington Hotel, Llan- dudno, the licence of which was in the name of his wife. When he started busi- ness he had R600 free capital, and later received £ 2,400 under the will of his father. The rent of the Washington Hotel wais JB180, and he paid P,800, for furni- ture and fixtures, when he went in. Sub- sequently his wife lent him over £ 3,000 at different times. She, was now a creditor for £ 3,000. In 1905, being pressed by creditors, he sold his furniture to his landlords,, Messrs Soames and Co., brew- er, of Wrexham, for £ 1,603, of which sum a part was paid to his bankers in reduc- tion of overdraft and part to Messrs Soames for beer, etc. supplied. The balance of about £ 300 he had to, go on with. He then hired the furniture at £ 50 a, year in addition to! the rent of the house, the hiring agreement giving him the right of re-purchase at the price paid by the firm. Laist Novem'ber bailiffs: were put in for rates, and the landlords, whom he consulted, paid the rates, resumed posses- sion of the furniture^ etc., hired to the debtor, and distrained upon his stock and other effects for sums due in respect of beer and rent, receipts for which were given. The firm also gave him £ 20 in cash on his giviing up the hotel. He had now practically no assets. The bankrupt was examined at con- siderable length respecting his specula- tions. He stated that he purchased in 1896 a considerable numlber of shares in the Craigydon Land Company. They were £ 10 shares, and at a publio auction he paid 215 each for them. Ati that time the Company was paving- 12 per cent, and 2 land was being disposed of at 10s. a yard. His first purchase at JE15 each was 12 shares, and then 50 shares. Subsequently he bought 100 at £ 12, and about five years ago he bought from Mr Chamberlain 290 shares at £ 7 each. He took the, last lot with the idea, of averaging the price. He had never seen any of these shares, however, as they had remained with the vendor as security for the purchase money. Something like JB600 had been paid on account, and the vendor was a creditor for the balance. The bankrupt stated that in 1900 Mr J. L. Mayger and he rented the Llandudno Hippodrome for a year, when it was Used as a. theatre. With Mr Mayger he engaged in a speculation in the purchase of hotels. The syndicate bought the North-Western Hotel, Llandludno; the Nantlle Vale Hotel, the Talycafn Hotel, the Alexandra Hotel, Penmaenmawr and the Central Hotel, Colwyn Bay. The North Wales Hotels Company was then formed, and L6,000 in preference shares was allotted to him in respect of his share of the purchase money of the several hotels. In the case of each hotel there was a, mortgage. Afterwards the Central Hotel, Colwyn Bay which had cost 1 £ 10.000 was sold for £ 16,000, and the Talycafn Hotel was sold for £ 4,000, which, was the amount paid for it, plus what1 was spent in repairs, etc. The other hotels continued the property of the Com- pany until last October, when they were sold to Mir Fitzsimmons by the receiver, who had taken possession on behalf of Messrs Ind, Coope and Co., the debenture holders. The price paid by Mr Fitzsim- mons, £ 17,000, was practically the amount of the mortgage and the £ 3,000 ■debentures. In 1903 the debtor bought Parker's mineral water business, and this was floated as Kay's, Limited. As the result of the floatation he made some pro- fit, and the Company did well for several years. It was now in liquidation. Another company in which he had been interested was the Llandudno Property and Invest- ment Company, which was formed to acquire a, portion of the Craigydon Land! Company's estate for its development. Mr Mayger and he had £ 800 jointly in that Company, but 'it had to go as security for money owing. That Company's shares were worth to-day morei than their face value. Since 1905 the bankrupt's affairs had been getting tighter and tighter. He estimated that he had lost in depreciation of shares £ 3,145 in the Craigydon Land Company, L5,000 in the North Wales Hotels Company, E100 in the Grand Theatre Company, £ 200 in Kay's Mineral Water Company, and L98 in a loan to the Craigydon Land Company. The Official Receiver complained that the debtor by going to his landlords in November had favoured them unfairly as against his other creditors, and Mr Kay replied that he thought he was doing the best thing to go to is brewers and ex- plain. They had treated him very fairly. There various speculations were the be- ginning of your troubles. If you had con- fined yourself to the Washington' you would have been all right?—Yes. The Registrar That seems obvious. The examination was adjourned to enable the debtor to file an account of his share speculations.

THE BEACH OHAIRiSr QUESTION.—■ THE VOTCiE; OF' THE: RATEPAYERS. To the Editor Sir,—It seems to mei that the ratepayers gave, last week an emphatic vote in favour of the withdrawal of the unfortunate bann upon the use of the chairs on Sundays. Those who defend the Council's quite ab- surd position are saying that this was not a. test question, but in my opinion it was in the mind of every voter when he enter- ed the polling booth last Saturday. In fact very little else was talked of, throughout the town, during the fortnight preceding the polling. Eivery candidlate was asked, publicly, for his view on the matter, and the mem- bers returned are three to one in favour. Of the unopposed returns Mr James Marks, at any rate, is in favour, for he had moved a resolution to expunge the objectionable restriction from the agree- ment. The position of the, poll of Mr Robert Roberts is not to be regarded in any way as to the credit of the party who support the Council's ic-hildish policy. In the words of the present Chairman of the Council, Mr Robert Roberts is so useful, conscientious and resourceful a councillor that it w,o,uld have been a serious loss to the town had he been thrown out. With this I qute agree, and I would wish to say that in my previous letter I mentioned Mr Roberts' name because he had public- ly supported the Council's attitude and because I regarded him as the spokesman of that atttude. I yield to no one in my respect for Mr Roberts andl my apprecia- tion of his love of Llandudno and his un- remitting efforts to secure its welfare., His position, too, is not that of the party who insist upon the strict letter of the law with regard to Sunday observance. He would not defend the restriction which it is my earnest hope to. see removed merely because the use of the chairs would imply a kind of trading on Sunday. He has not been convinced that there is the demand by the respectable class of visi- tors, and he above all things wishes to preserve the Sabbath peace, on the sands. I am with him in regard to the latter desire, and we differ only on these points. It is, my conviction that to take the chairs off the beach on Surndayandl make, a sort of zareiba of them, under a, tarpaulin, on the verge of the Promenade is a positive affront to visitors, and that it would be better to do away with the chairs alto- gether than to set ourselves up, as self- appointed protectors of the consciences of other people in this trifling respect. There is in the town, fortunately, a powerful sentiment in favour of Sabbath Ohservance, and I have no doubt that if an election were fought upon the straight issue of some serious breach of Sabbath Observance there would be an over- whelming vote against the act of desecra- tion proposed. Elven in the interests of humanity, apart from the sacred aspect of the ques- tion, it seems to me exceedingly unwise and 'imprudent to invoke the aid of that body of sentiment to which I have allud- ed in a cause so, slight and unimportant, as this. The body of sentiment is limited, humanly speaking, in amount. It can be measured. Every time the letter of the law is insisted upon, while the spirit of it is ignored, as in this case, the strength of Sabbatarian feeling is weakened, and the enemy will the more easily overcome it later on in things that really matter. Let us all be careful that we do not find ourselves like the Pharisees whom the Saviour rebuked. Then, are we in Llandudno, such a saintly lot that we alone, of all the seaside places must insist, upon this treatment of our visitors. So far I have not been told of another resort where they do this thing. That at least should be some guide to the Council when they come, next week, to consider M:r Sarson's proposal to revise their policy. I have, been asked why the question should have been raked! up in this way. For the good reason that it is at election time the ratepayers get something of an opportunity of revising and reviewing the action of the Council. If ever a public question was justifiably brought forward surely it was this. The manager of the Llandudno Hydro says that he has some 30 deck chairs for use on his lawns, and on Sunday after- noons, when the weather is fine and warm, the visitors almost invariably ask that the chairs may be carried across to the beach for them, and1 this is done. Here is evi- dence of the wish of the best class of visi- tors to sit on the beach as to which there seems to be such doubt in some quarter?. The only other idea from the advocates of the status CretO which need be replied to is that the Council should themselves buy a thousand chairs and put them on the beach, for the free use of the public, and so to avoid the element of trading. Why should the ratepayers bear that burden ? Who will take charge of the chairs ? Who will see that they are not wilfully damaged? Who will move them to and fro, as the tide ebbs and flows? There would have to be men employed for this purpose, and if they are there, can there be any more objection to their taking round the plate for the coppers than there is to taking around the plate for the threepenny bits in the places of worship. I respectfully suggest to the Counoril that they have no case for the continuance of the Sunday prohibition for a day longer than next Wednesday, Yours, etc., CENTRAL, WARD.

THE LAST' COUNCIL ELECTION. To the Editor Sir,—It is a painful incident in con- nection with the last Council Election that one of the most faithful and long-standing Councillors was not re-elected. This un- doubtedly happened by an inadvertence or miscalculation on the part of the electors. I refer to Mr William Williams, Myrtle House. Mr Williams has been a member of the old body of Commission- ers, and the present Council for a period of not less than 25 years, during which time he has been Chairman of the Sanitary Committee for nine years; and his prac- tical knowledge and zeal in such matters has brought a great improvement in the sanitary conditions of the town. And in addition to the above, during one time or another Mr Williams ha,s served upon every other Committee of the Council. This proves that his knowledge of the affairs of our town is effectual and com- plete. Now through the last election we are deprived of his services and valuable experience this surely is a great loss. I write to ask, is it not possible to retain his services by electing him Chairman for the ensuing year. The Councillors have this power, and the action. I am sure would be heartily endorsed by the, public. Moreover, the election of Mr Williams to the Chairmanshipi would crown with the gratitude of the people, a life of long, n valuable, and strenuous service. I do not wish to interfere unduly, but in the, spirit of kindliness I desire to throw out this suggestion to our newly-elected Coun- cillors, and I trust they will rise above every party spirit, and 01 petty differences and do this honour to one who richly de- serves it.—Yours, etc., RATEPAYER.

STEAMERS AND THE NEW LICENSING. ACT. To the Editor. Sir,—I wish to call your attention to the proposed legislation under the Govern- ment Licensing Act of 1908 and the effect it will have on the Steamboats of the Companies round our Coast. Clause 34 brings in the provisions of the 5th Schedule and the principal points arising in that Schedule affecting the Com- pany are as follows-- Under Section 2 the penalty for per- mitting drunkenness is a fine of R20. The whole of the vessel for this purpose is taken as Licensed Premises. Many of the passengers bring; thepr own refresh- ment and drink on board and do not go near the bars. There is no power to pre- vent people taking alcoholic liquor and yet the Company is liable although power- less to prevent it. By Section 4 the owner (the Company) and the master are rendered liable to a fine not exceeding £.50 for any offence under this (Schedule unless, it is shown he has taken all reasonable steps to prevent the committing of the offence. The owner of the vessel cannot be on board all the steamers, and the master of the vessel most certainly would have to spend time in the navigation of the vessel, and it would be impossible for him to be also looking after the whole of the, pas- sengers. Section 5 provdes that where the holder of the license or the master or the owner is convicted under this Schedule the court may order that no licence be granted either to the vessel on which the offence has been committed or on board any other vessel belonging to the same order. The severity of this section is palpable as for instance, in caise the bars of the different vessels were let and the caterer on one vessel committed an offence, the caterers on all the other vessels, they being owned by the same Company, would; be liable to have their licences suspended. Section 6 limits the sale of intoxicating liquor on Sundays to one hour between noon and 3 p.m. and two hours between 6 and 10 p.m. It is well known that the sailings of this Company's Steamers in a morning are for the long trips to Llandud- no, Douglas, etc. the passengers being landed a.s a rule about 12-30 to 1-30, or for the short trips sailing at. 10 a,.m. and arriving back about 12-30. The hour therefore between noon and 3 p.m. would be practically useless as the vessel would be lying, alongside the Pier empty. Eor; the afternoon sailings the rule js, to. srt about 2-30 to 3 o'clock, arriving I Kick *5 o'clock, during which trips ffo refresh- ments could be supplied at all, or if to Liverpool, Southport, or other places it, could only be. made use of on the return journey. Again if it was known that the hours were so limited it would be an in- centive to passengers 'bringing their own. intoxicating liquor with them, would cer- tainly not tend to induce temperance, and would be a vexatious and unwarrantable interference with the liberty of the pas- senger.—Yours truly, TtfOS. BICKERSTAFFE, Manager of the Liverpool Passenger Steamboat Company, Ltd. 2th April, 1908. o

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WOMAN SUFFRAGE. To the Editor. Sir,—As there seems some confusion in the public miind a.s to the number of Woman Suffrage Organizations and their methods, I shall be obliged if you will allow me space in your paper to make a. short statement. There are three principal Suffrage Societies,: 1. The National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies. 2. The Women's Freedom League. 3. The National Women's Social and Political Union. These Societies all have the same ob- ject, namely, to obtain the, Parlamentary Franchise for women on the same terms as it is, or may be, granted to men. All three Societies are independent of any Political party. The methods and policy of the Societies vary considerably. The N.U.W.S.S. works on strictly con- stitutional lines. Its methods are: (a) The promotion of united action in Parliament and in the country. (b) The organization of Women's Suf- frage Societies on a non-party basis. (c) The education of public, opinion by all usual methods, such as public meet- ings, demonstrations, debates, distribu- tion of literature, and deputations to pub- lic representatives. Their work is at all times strictly peaceful and constitutiona.l. The Women's Freedom League and the N.W.S.P.U. are militant in their methods. They promote their object by (a) Opposition to whatever Government is in power, until such a time as the fran- chise is granted. (b) Patrtiicipatci.on n Parliamentary Elections in opposition to the Government Candidate and independently of all other candidates. (c) Vigorous agitation upon lines justi- fied by the position of outlawry to which women are at present condemned. (d) The organizing of women all over the country to enable them to give ade- quate expression to their desire for politica.1 freedom. (e) The education of public opinion by all the usual methods. A careful reading of the- above will plainly shew that the N.U.W.S.S., to which Llandudno is associated, does not go in for breaking up meetings nor other militant tactics, btu is quiet and law- abiding. Therefore every woman and man who believes in the justice of the Women's claiim shouldi come forward loyally and support this Society by giving their names, and some subscription how- ever small.—Yours, etc., EDITH WALTON EVANS. 4, Abbey Road, Llandudno. April 6th, 1908.

IS LIBERALISM MORIBUND? To the Editor. Sir,—I am relying upon your usual generosity—in inserting in your paper the letters of your readers—to give me a little of your space to enable me to ask your correspondent, J.F., a few questions with reference to his letter in your last issue on "The inertness of Local Lberal Associa- tions." He couples the names of Conserva- tives and Socialists and accuses them of the crime of 'perverting the minds of the younger men,' and further he refers to; them as "the parties of ascendancy and! spoliation; and he also urges a real and earnest Liberal rally" against these fallacies. I am not concerned with Con- servatism, let those who are interested parties defend -it if they wish, but I should like, as a Socialist, to know what he means by referring to Socialists as "The party of spoliation?" and what he means by "the inroads of fallacy." What fallacy ? If he believes in Liberalism let him come out and defend it, and not make such sweeping assertions as these. I can promise him a straight, clean and honest fight. I wonder if he is satisfied with the vote given by Liberal Mr Wm. Jones, M.P., against the unemployed amendment to the address? and also whether his (Mr Wm. Jones') convenient absence, when the Un- employed Workmen's Bill was brought in meets with his J.F.'s approval? I also wonder how J.F's Liberal friends will explain away their member's vote? No doubt they find some consola- tion in the fact that he is a, good Party man. But we Socialsts are anxiously looking forward to the time when we shall have representing us in the House of Commons a man who will act and vote on National and not on Party line. A man who has sufficient cburage of mind to throw aside the cloak of party, and who will vote and work for the good of the community Liberalism is mori- bund. Socialism lives. Yours faithfully, "HAVE NOT." >II

SUNSHINE RECORD.—The total number of hours of bright sunshine re- corded at Llandudno for week ending April 4th was 23 hours 7 minutes. The rainfall for the same week was 0.510 inches.

I r CHESS. (CONDUCTED BY A LASERSON). "Llandudno Advertiser," NOTICE.—Games sent to the Editor for adjudication must be accompanied by a stamped-addressed envelope. TO CLUBS IN THE DISTRICT.— The Editor will be pleased to assist in the arranging of matches on receipt of full particulars. All communications to be addressed to The Chess Editor, 125, Mostyn Street. LLANDUDNO v. COLWYN BAY. The final match of the season between the above Clubs will be played at the Cafe Royal; Colwyn Bay, on .Tuesday, April 14th. PLayto commence at 7 p.m. prompt. Ten or more boards will tiake part. The Llandudno team will probably be composed of the following players — A. Laserson, Rev. J. Raymond, Gresley Jones, H. Higginbottom, T. A. Jones, inn T. Davies, A. J. Peacock, Thompson, Swinnerton, and Jack Roberts. Reserves, Hoope, White and Lunt. The players will leave the Town Hall, Llandudno, in two cabs at 6 p.m. NORTH WALE!S v.* MANCHESTER A match between the representatives of the North Wales Clubs and the Manches- ter Chess Club' will be played probably at Manchester on Wednesday, May 6th. The North Wales team will be composed of the following players:- J. E. Parry, Bangor (Captain), Rev. J. Raymond, A. Laserson, Gresley Jones, H. Higginbottom (Llandudno); E. D. Rowlands, T'. H. Allbutt, F. Nunn, H. Wills (Colwyn Bay); H. Whitehouse, T. Copleston, G. Rowland (WTexham) Eachus (Rhyl); T. Samuel, D. Eraser (Abergele). Denbigh, St. Asaph and Lianrwst will probably also be represented. < From 12 to 20 boards will take part. Further particulars will be given in a, few- days. « THE RETREAT FROM MOSCOW. Not a check was heard, Not a pawn was stirred, As from the Recreation room we scurried, And towards the street we were hurried; Headed by Dawson, out we ran, Ferrari said Hello! mind, the tram." Chorus. Out into the dreary streets-fa ra ra, Ten forty-five on Saturday night—ta ra ra. Peacock moved a resolution To quickly re-open the institution; A petition was framed, And a few Councillors blamed Tom Da-vies then offered to take the lead, And on this point he and Berri agreed. Chorus. Out into the dreary street-La ra ra, Ten forty-five on Saturday night—ta ra ra. Gresley agreed without slackened speed That something the Council was bound to heed, He thought should be written By the chess players of Britain And Laserson said if he had to eat his head, He'd secure a, place before he went to bed. Chorus. Out into the dreary street--La ra ra, Ten forty-five on Saturday nigbt-ta ra ra. Tha.t we were homeless we hardly realise, And our feelings we were unable to disguise; Then Dawson shouted, "Are we down- hearted?" We answered "Yes!" and: then parted, Hurriedly with a common fear That we would be too late ior a, glass of "water." Chorus. Out into the dreary street—ta ra, ra:, T'en forty-five on Saturday night—ta ra ra. v PETROFF DEFENCE. White. Black. Loman. Mortimer. 1. P-K 4 P—K 4 2. Kt—K B 3 Kt-K B 3 3. Kt takes P P-Q 3 4. Kt-K B 3 Kt takes P 5. Kt-B 3 Kt to K B 3 (a) 6. P-Q 4 Castles 8. K-K 2 P—Q 4 (b) 7. B—Q 3 B-K 2 9. Kt—Kt 3 Kt—B 3 (c) 11. Castles B—Q 3 (d) 10. P—B 3 P-K R 3 12. Kt-B 5 Kt-K 5 fe) 13. Kt takes B Q takes Ri f) 14. R K sq P—B 4 ( g) 15. Kt-K 5 Kt-K 2 16. P—B 3 Kt-K B 3 17. B-K 3 P—Q K: 3 (h) 18. P—Q Kt 4 P—Q R, 4 20. B-K B 2 B—Kt 2 i) 19. P-Q R 3 P takes P 21. R P takes P R takes R 22. Q takes R, R—R sq 23. Q—Kt sq R'—K B sq 24. B—Kt 3 Kt—R 4 (i) 25. Kt—Kt 6 Q takes Kt 28. B takes P Kt takes B 27. P takes Kt Q takes P (k) 26. R, takes Kt Q—B 5 29. B—K 6 ch K—R sq 33. II—K 8 Q—B 8 ell (3) 32. Iv—-R. 3 Q—B 5 ch 31. K—R, 2 Q—B 3 30. Q—Kt 6 Q takes Q 34. R, takes R ch K—R 2 36. B takes P, dis cl Iv—R sq 35. B—Kt 8 ch Resigns. Owing to pressure of space we are unable to publish the "Notes" to this game. I A meeting of the Chess Club will be held in the Recreation Room the Library on Monday evening, at eight o'clock, when the Rev. John Raymond will take the chair. All chess players are invited to be present.

j THE ELECTIONS. Commenting on the results of the Llan- dudno Elections tie "Manchester Guar- dians states: "At Llandudno two points of rather more than local interest were raised, and in each case the vote may be viewed as progressive. There has. been some con- troversy as to how far motors should be allowed to compete with horse vehicles for the public traffic of the dstrict. Here it was more or less a. question of Free Trade against Protection, and the Free Trade idea seems to have prevailed. The other point relates to the observance, of Sunday. Durng six days of the week, as we under- stand the question, people may hire chairs and use them for sitting out on the sea front. Some objection is taken to the letting of these chairs on Sundays. On that day, possibly as a sort of penance for the sins of the week, people must sit on the wooden public seats or on the sand it- self. If they dislike this they are free to stand or walk about. They are also free, it is understood, to remain at home and use the domestic chairs in their own rooms or on private ground outside. They re- fuse to see in this comfortable bit of wood and canva's the weapon of a religious revolution."

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