The North Wales Weekly News

Congratulations. The Enlargement of the" North Wales Weekly News." Encouraging Messages. "A Leading Example of High- Class Journalism." The announcement, published last week, of our intention to enlarge the North Wales Weekly News, has brought us a large and encouraging number of messages of congratu- lation, and it is our only regret that spa:e does not permit of our reproducing them all. We may, however, be allowed to publish two letters which are typical of the whole, and in so doing we desire to thank all those who have shown such a sympathetic interest in the forward march of this journal. SIR HERBERT ROBERTS, BART., M.P. The Member for West Denbighshire, Sir J. Herbert Roberts, Bart., M.P.. with whose con- stituency this journal has been closely asso- ciated from the outset, seads us the following message:— I have observed with interest and much satisfaction, in your issue of the 4th inst., an announcement of the permanent enla, ge- ment of your paper, and the consequent important additions to the story of the weekly life of North Wales which is so clearly presented to the public upon its pages. I have long regarded the "North Wales Weekly News" as a leading example of high-class journalism, in its able articles, full reports, comprehensive survey of events, and in its admirable type and general equipment. Moreover, it has an honourable record as the advocate of all causes making for the progress and moral welfare of the people, and should receive the support of those who cherish high ideals for the future life of Wales. The enlargement of the paper, I have no doubt, will extend its sphere of influence and power of enlightenment, and I trust that its reception by a larger circle of readers will fully justify the added responsi- bilities of the step. Most heartily do I join the throng of the well-wishers of the paper in a message of congratulation and good cheer at the open- ing of this new chapter in its career. MR. J. HERBERT LEWIS, M.P. The Member for Flintshire, who so worthily fills the high position of Parliamentary Secretary to the Local Government Board, writes :— I congratulate you most heartily upon the success which justifies you in enlarging the North Wales Weekly News." I feel sure the enlarged edition will be much appreciated in the extensive area in which your paper circulates.

COLWYN BAY. NO MORE INKY FINGERS. SELF-FILL- FOUNTAIN PLN. Fills in a flash. Fitted with 14ct. gold nib Iridium Tipped, and single feed. A real bargain sent per post far 5s. 7d. Obtainable ait R. E. Jones and Bros., Weekly News" Office, Colwyn Bay. NOW ON SALE, in all bindings, Book of Common Prayer with Prayers amended for King George V. "and Royal Family.—R. E. Jones & Bros., "Weekly News Office, Col- wyn Day. XMAS CARDS, XMAS CARDS.—Private greeting cards. Samples now ready, from s. per dozen. Book sent nut to any ad- dress on receipt of a Postoard.—R. E. Jones and Broc., Weekly News Office, 8, Sta- tion-road, Colwyn Bay. GUIDE TO WELSH. Part I. For use at the evening classes. Price is. 3d.-R. E. Jones and Bros., Weekly News Office, Colwyn Bay. TO ALL BOOK-LOVERS.—A branch of the Modern Circulating Library is now open. The only Central Library, with CHANGE OF BOOKS EVERY MONTH. ALWAYS SOMETHING FRESH TO READ by the best Authors.—R. E. Jones and Bros., Weekly News Office, 8, Station-road, Colwyn Bay. TEMPERANCE SUNDAY.—In the Free Churches o' the district next Sunday will be observed as Temperance Sunday. AN ACCEPTABLE GIFT—Dr. Reginald Jones, of Wayside, has kindly presented to the Y.M.C.A. several volumes of the Science in Modern Life,' a gift which is much appre- ciated. LITERARY AND DEBATING SOCIE- TIES.—Secretaries of these and similar socie- ties would greatly oblige by sending short reports of their meetings to the offices of the Weekly Colwyn Bay. To ensure in- sure insertion it is essential that the reports should be in hand not later than Tuesday morning. ANNUAL PREACHING MEETINGS.— The annual preaching meetings in connection with the Horeb Welsh Wesleyan Chapel, were held this week. On Monday evening, the Rev. Daniel Williams, Llanddulas, preached. The services were continued on Wednesday evening and yesterday (Wednesday). The preachers were the Revs. WT. O. Evans Bootle, and D. Morris, Abergele. NON-MILITANT SUFFRAGISTS.—A well-attended meeting of Non-Militant Suff- ragists was held on Monday evening at Cart- mell's Restaurant, presided over by Dr. Lilian Blake. Miss Eakin, of Llandudno, delivered an inspiring address upon the suffragists' cause, and referred in scathing terms to Lord Cromer's recent speech. Miss Mildred Spencer also made a speech, in which she stated it had been proposed in Wales that Liberal ladies should give up their work for politics and fight for women's suffrage. SERVICE FOR MEN.—A short service for men, under the auspices of the Church of England Men's Society, was held in St. Paul's Church, Colwyn Bay, on Sunday afternoon from a quarter to four till four-thirty. There was a good attendance present, not with- standing the unpropitious weather, to hear an excellent address by the Rev. J. Pritchard. The Honorary Secretary is Mr. J. F. Moseley, Charlecote. to whom application for member- ship should be made. NEXT WEDNESDAY'S FLORAL CON- CERT.—Our readers are reminded that Madame Riviere's floral concert takes place on Wednesday evening next, following the,, Chrysanthemum Show which will be held at the Victoria Pier Pavilion in the afternoon. The two events are amongst the chief, and certainly most attractive, of the winter sea- son, and have always proved remarkable successes. Intending visitors are reminded that there is no need to pay twice for the show and the concert, as all tickets issued for the first function will be available for the second. The merits of the chrysanthemum show have drawn forth the highest praise from expert judges, and it is wonderful to observe at these shows the gorgeous blooms which are culti- vated in Sweet Colwyn Bay." At the evening concert—one of the most enjoyable functions annually held in Colwyn Bay, and into the success of which Madame Riviere throws her whole ingenuity, many novelties will be presented, and old favourites such as Madame Dews, Mr. Thornley-Dodge, and other well-known artistes will appear. Madame Riviere is one of the most valuable assets to the success of Colwyn Bay, a town for which she has a great affection and made her home. At these functions she is ever successful in pleasing the tastes of her patrons with variety and quality, and we hope a bumper house will be her reward LECTURES FOR THE PEOPLE.—The first of the series of popular winter lectures was given in the Victoria Pavilion on Friday evening, and was one of the most delightful ever listened to in Colwyn Bay. The Com- mittee are to be congratulatt.d upon having. made such a capital start. If the other lec- tures will be equally as acceptable as the first, then the promoters are to be congratu- lated upon their choice. There was a large and expectant audience at the Pavilion to hear Mr. E. T. Reed, the well-known Punch artist, speak of a Caricature in and out of Parliament," and their anticipations were more than realised, as their frequent laughter and applause amply testified. Needless to say, the humour of his address and of the examples of his genius thrown on the screen was keenly appreciated. Mr. Stanley Wood, M.A., headmaster ol Dinglewood School, who made an ideal Chairman, said that in these days cf rates and taxes, work and worry, anyone who will provoke a smile on our faces; and performs that feat with persistent regu- larity once a week, is entitled to our grati- tude. Mr. Reed was the leading humorist of z, the present day. (Applause). Mr. Reed was most cordially received, and his light and airy humour was exactly suited to the taste of the audience, who were also delighted with Mr Red's drawings alike for their artistic qualities and their shrewd hits at human frailty and conceit. From beginning to end the lecture was a source of unspeakable pleasure. It may be mentioned that the eminent caricaturist has certain associations with the political life of Wales, as for some years Cardiff was represented in Parliament by his father, the late Sir Edward Reed, the great naval architect. The next lecture, on A Tour through the Italian Cities," wili be given on Friday, November 2Fth. I.O.G.T.—The first annual session of the North Wales Coast District Lodge of Good Templars was held on Wednesday in St. Paul's Church Room, and was largely at- tended, representatives being present from Old Colwyn, Rhyl, Llandudno, and Holy- head. The meeting was opened by Mr. Edwar Jones, D.C.T., who expressed regret at the absence of P.D.G.T., Rev. J. A. Rees, B.A., through illness. The District Degree was conferred upon 14 candidates. His Worship the Mayor of WTrexham (Coun- cillor Stanford, P.G.C.T.) and Mr. S. C. Hughes, Grand Chief Templar, arrived at this stage, and were accorded an official reception. The G.C.T. then occupied the chair. The following officers gave their re- ports:—D.C.T. Mr. Edward Jones, D. Sect. Mr. James Renshaw, D.T. Captain Treleaven, D.E.S. Mr. Wheeley, D.S.Y.W. Mr. D. O. Evans. The D.E.S. report was very encouraging, and- included the follow- ing proposition, which was carried unani- niously: That this meeting of the North Wales District Lodge of the International Order of Good Templars, numbering 400 members, desires to protest against any curtailment of Sunday closing on licensed premises and shops by the Shop (No. 2) Bill, or any other Act." All the reports reflected great credit upon the officers, and were adopted. The election of officers to form the new District Executive was as follows:—D.C.T. Mr. Edward Jones, Powys- land, Colwyn Bay, unanimously re-elected; D. Sect. Mr. James Renshaw, Colwyn Bay P.D.C.T. Mr. Walter J. Hill; D.T. Capt. Treleaven D.C., Mr. J. R. Edwards, Holy- head; D.E.S., Mr. Wheeley; D.S.Y.W., Mr. D. O. Evans; D.V.T., Miss Frimston D.M., Mr. Hurst, Holyhead. Miss Nellie Jones, Colwyn Bay, was appointed District Assistant Sect. His Worship the Mayor of Wrexham gave a short address. A recess was then granted to partake of tea, which was served at Cartmell's Cafe, Staition- road. At 7.30, there was a great public meeting, presided over by the Mayor of Wrexham, who gave a powerful address. Other speakers were Mr. S. C. Hughes, Grand Chief Templar, and Rev. Canon Roberts. Miss Saliy Parry, Miss Florrie Greenfield, and Mr. Devonport were the soloists, and Mr. Summers the accompanist. THE FUNERAL OF PRINCE FRANCIS OF TECK is being shown nightly this week at the Public Hall, and includes excellent likenesses of King George and Lord Kitchener. The film was taken from three positions in the High-street, at the Castle gates, inside the castle grounds, and at the entrance to St. George's Chapel (a magnifi- cent scene), with the stately removal of the coffin from the gun carriage. Lovers of Charles Dickens should see the pictorial re- presentation of Nicholas Nickleby," which is a masterpiece. In The Military Tourna- ment by the -th (Queen's Own) Hussars we are shown magnificent feats of horse- manship. The travel film is entitled "Nor- way Fjords." SaPirg aown the Fjords of Norway, the spectator is startled into fre- quent exclamations of delight by the mag- nificence of the scenery and the exquisite colour effects, formed by the brilliant sun- shine on sea and Land. From the deck of the steamer we have glimpses of a quaint Norwegian village nestling against snow- clad hills. Further north, amongst the quiet mountains and lonely rippling waters, nothing disturbs the silence but the noisy flapping of wings and shrieking of gulls as they fly hither and thither. Great blocks of ice float by on the waves, for this is the extreme limit of the unfrozen sea. Rarely has a travel series included such superb colour effects as are to be seen in this series. By special request the above sub- jects will be shown every night this week in addition to the comedy numbers, picture dramas, &c. « THE PASSING OF THE THIRD FLOOR BACK-This remarkable play, by Jerome K. Jerome, which Mr Harry Rey- nolds has booked for the Public HaM for one night only, Wednesday, November 23rd, is without doubt the most debated play of this generation. Mi. J. Forbes Robertson, England's greatest actor, who originally produced this piece at the St. James's Theatre, London, created intense interest by his beautiful impersonation of "The Stranger." He afterwards took this play to the Maxime Theatre, New York, where it had a record run over eight consecutive months, the longest run of any play in New York. Mr. Robertson has recently returned to New York for another extended run with this same play. THE TOWN ADVERTISING ASSOCIA- TION AND MUSIC.—At Tuesday's month- ly meeting of the Urban District Council a letter was read from the Secretary of the Town Advertising Association (Mr. T. Ed- wards), asking the Council to consider the question of having a town band of fifteen performers. If the Council did this, the Association would provide two bandstands to be used alternately in certain parts of the town, and asking the Council to move early in the matter before the best bands were engaged. A proposal to refer the mat- ter to the General Purposes Committee brought a protest from Mr. T. H. Morgan, who said they should encourage the Town Advertising Association in their efforts to secure a band for the town, especially as they had promised bandstands on condition. The Council had never been able to find money for a bandstand. The matter was referred to a sub-committee to report to the Council. IMPORTANT TO BUILDERS AND OT,IIERS.-It is not unknown for cases to occur in itlhjs district where additions to existing buildings are erected without first submitting plans to the Urban District Council. In view of this fact Mr. T. H. Morgan, who is Vice-Chairman of the Council, whilst considering the number of plans which were disapproved, said it was a custom with some people to add additions without submitting plans, and the Council intended to take stringent measures with such persons. It should be generally known thaJt before putting up such buildings plans must be made and presented to the Coun- ciL The Council were going to put an end to that state of affairs.

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COLWYN. PREACHING AT BETHEL.—Special preaching meetings were held at the Bethel Chapel, Penmaenrhos, on Monday, Tues- day, and yesterday (Wednesday). On Mon- day Principal Thomas Rees, M.A., of Ban- gor, preached, and on Tuesday evening and all day yesterday the Revs. John Hughes, Blaenau Festiniog, and the Rev. R. Prydd- erch Williams, Holyhead. The Wednesday evening service was held in Hebron Chapel, Colwyn.

ST. GEORGE, ABERGELE. ENTERTAINMENT.—A musical and dramatic entertainment, in aid of the St. George Flower Show, was held in the Vil- lage Hall on Monday evening, the Rev. T. Jenkins, Rector, presiding over a large audi- ence. The following is a copy of the pro- gramme.-Violin solo, "Raffs Cavatine," Mr. G. F. James song, Rev. Lester Jones; song, Miss C. Roberts; humorous musical sketch, Mr. Arthur H. Gregson; song, Rosamond," Mr. W. E. Handley song, Flight of Ages," Miss James; humorous song, Mr. A. H. Gregson; song, Mr. W. Vaughan -song, Nant y Mynydd," Miss Roberts song, Rev. Lester Jones song, Sergeant of the Line," Mr. W. E. Hand- ley monologue, Mr. A. H. Gregson. Then followed a comedietta, entitled Woman's Wrongs," performed by the Misses Hughes, of Kinmel Park, and Mr. Seton Kerr.— SEARCHLIGHT.

BETTWS-YN-RHOS. HARVEST FESTIVAL.—The thanksgiv- ing services were held in the Church on Thursday. The sacred edifice had been most tastefully decorated by Mrs. Pryce Morgan (Vicarage), Misses G. and F. Old- field (Ffarm), Mrs. Marston (School House), and helpers, together with Mr. Andrew Hunter, head gardener, Coed Coch. In the morning there was a celebra- tion of Holy Communion by the Vicar, at which a goodly number attended. At the English service Ithe church was comfort- ably full, large numbers attending from surrounding villages. The musical portion was in the capable hands of the Hon. Mrs. Brodrick, Coed Coch, who was organist, and needless to say this part was capital. The special preacher was the Rev. Ebenezer Evans, B.A., LLanfair Talhaiarn. The Welsh service in the evening commenced at 7 o'clock, when the seating capacity of the church was taxed to the uttermost. It was most gratifying to see the large number of Nonconformists present, with the Rev. O. Ffoulkes, thus showing the good feeling prevalent in the village. Among the con- gregation were the Hon. Mrs. Brodrick and several of the local clergy. Miss Florence Oldfield, Ffarm, with her accustomed ab. iltity, presided at the organ. The Rev. David Jones, B.A., A.bererch, was the special preacher. The singing throughout the day was highly creditable to all concerned. Great thanks are due to Mr. J. E. Oldfield, Ffarm, and Mr. John Parry, Ty Isa', the churchwardens, for their supervision and management during the festival.

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ABERGELE. HARRIERS.—Several members of the Abergele newly-formed harriers' club had a fine cross country run on Thursday after- noon. Starting from the centre of Market- street they proceeded at the double to Tany- goppa, Gwrych Lodge (Mr. King's), up to Tyddyn Ucha', then down by Tyddyn Mor- gan to Siamber Wen, and back to town— more miles than I could crawl in a month. The result of the race was as follows :—1, Charles Davies, Crown Fish Stores 2, Good- man Williams, Crown Bach; 3, Ben Davies, Kinmel Park 4, John Williams, Bryntirion 5, Richard Williams, Bryntirion 6, Johnny Owen, Crown Bach 7, John David Jones, New-street S Cthink of it !), Moss Jones. I've seen the day when Moses g II Could go like frenzied steam, But Thursday saw him crawling— The lamest in the team. —Who will compose a tune in the minor key for these beautiful lines oi poetry ? THE GALVINISTIC METHODISTS held their annual preaching meetings en Wednes- day evening and all day on Thursday. The preachers were the Revs. Howel Harries Hughes, Prince's-road, Liverpool, and H. Morgan Pugh, Carmel. The attendances were very large. SCHOLASTIC.—Congratulations to the head teachers of the Abergele National School upon the gratifying results of the religious examination which was recently held. The three departments of the school are described as excellent in religious knowledge, discipline, tone, and repetition. The follow- ing is the Inspector's report :—-Infants Careful and conscientious work is done in this department." Girls The girls con- tinuejto be very well taught throughout. Miss Gittins and her staff arc doing very conscien- tious work in the matter of religious instruc- tion." Boys: "Theboyshavedoneadmirably throughout." The following is a copy of the report on woodwork made by H.M. In spector (Dr. Wr. Williams) after his visits :— The very high reputation of this centre has been fully maintained. The methods are excellent, and the work done is thoroughly good in every way. The very full course. of handwork taken systematically in all the lower standards of the elementary school farm a habit of mind in the children and a preparation which enables them to take full advantage gf the excellent methods and good opportunities provided for them at this well-equipped centre, while the fact that the head master of the elementary school person- ally teaches handwork in the lower standards, and takes the handicraft (woodwork^ at the centre secures full correlation of handwork and handicraft with other school subjects. The preparation of handicraft will be further inproved by the recent provision which has been made for a full course of light wood work recently approved by the Board of Education for use in rural schools of Denbigh- shire. The details of this scheme have been worked out by the head master of the Aber- gele Elementary School, who teaches the handicraft at the County School centre to his own boys and to the the Countv School pupils.SEARCHLIGHT. J CAFE CONCERT.—The first concert of the winter session, under the auspices of the Ship Cafe Literary Society, was held at that institution on Friday evening, Mr. G. T. Evans, Haulfryn, presiding over a large and enthusiastic gathering. After Mr. R. E. Needham had delighted the company with a grand rendering of selections of Welsh airs on his new and up-to-date phonograph, the Chairman said he hoped the present session, which was having such a good send-off, would be more successful than last year's. The pro- gramme already drawn out, was a splendid one in every respect. The committee were very anxious that the young members of the Cafe would not subordinate the instructive element of the session's programme to that of amusement pure and simple, he (Mr. Evans) was as fond of fun as anyone in that place, but they should always attempt to aim at something higher in life than jollification. It would help them much to enjoy the meet- ings better if they took actual part in the proceedings themselves. All of them could do a little to help the Society—by singing, reciting, and debating. A little more variety would add more piquancy to the gatherings. The programme was then proceeded with as follows :—Solo, Dim ond deilen," Miss Bessie Jones, Mountjoy Cafe solo, Y Gloch" Mr. Thomas Llewelyn Jones, Rose Cottage duett, Y Ddau Forwr," Mr. W. P. Morris and Mr. Robert Roberts selections on Mr. Needham's phonograph solo, 0, tyr'd yn ol, fy ngeneth wen." Cybi solo. Annie deg o'r Glyn," Mr. W. P. Morris solo, Ymadawiad y Brenin," Miss Bessie Jones phonograph selections recitation, Mr. Moody a'r Fam a'r Plentyn," Mr. Tom Williams, Pensarn solo, "Anchored," Mr. R. Roberts solo, Bugeilio'r gwenith gwyn (new arrangement out of. Aelwyd Angharad" Mr. T. Llewelyn Jones solo, Ein hanwyl wlad," Cybi duett, Bety Wyn," Mr. W. P. Morris and Mr. R. Roberts. Then we had a treat by way of The Budget Song by Mr. Phonograph, which secured what is called in the classics, a thumping encore. The accompanists were Messrs. T. G. Morgan, Norman Williams, and Cybi. On the motion of Mr. J. R. Ellis, a hearty vote of thanks was accorded to all who had contributed towards the success of the even- ing.

LLANFAIRFECHAN. THE POPULAR MEMBER.—Mr. Wm. Jones, M.P., delivered, in his own eloquent and pleasing manner, a lecture at the Pub- lic Hall on Friday evening on "A chapter in the history of Wales." Mr. Mousdale pre- sided over an attentive audience. MORE LIGHT.—The District Council has arranged to place an extra gas lamp at Plas Farm. CYCLIST INJURED.—Owing to his over- coat becoming entangled in the wheel of his machine, a cyclist from Bangor sustained a nasty fall on Saturday, his face being badly bruised. A LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARD VISITOR.—To hear reports as to the sani- tary condition of the district, Dr. Manby, of the Local Government Board, visited Llanfairfechan last week

TALYCAFN. MART SALE.—The periodical sale was held at the mart on Monday, when the fol- lowing prices were realised 1629 fat wethers, ewes and lambs, up to 265.; 43 fat cattle, £19 17s. 6d. 12 calving cows and heifers, £18 5s. store cattle, £9 15s. fat calves, £4; fat porkers, £6 10s. The next sale is announced for Monday, November 21st.

LLANGERNYW. SALE OF WORK.—A successful sale of work (goods left over after the recent bazaar) was held by the C.M. Chapel friends on Friday night, which was followed by a miscellaneous entertainment. The ehair was taken by Mr. R. Manod Owen. Solos were rendered by "Miss Jennie Jones, Miss Dora Roberts, Mr. Griffiths (Denbigh), and Mr. Owen Jones; recitations by Miss W7il- liams (" Meinwen"), Maenan, LLanrwst, and Mr. David Hughes; dialogues by Miss Lizzie Hughes and Miss Kitty Jones, Gar- nedd; action songs by the Band of Hope children, led by Miss Lloyd-, while Miss Kitty Jones, The Gardens, acted as accom- panist. The whole proceeds of the evening amounted to £21 clear. PANDY TUDUR.—In connection with the opening of the Young Men's Literary and Debating Society for the winter session, Mr. O. R. Hughes, M.A., Llanrwst, de- livered the inaugural lecture on Friday night on Welsh Hymnology." GWYTHERIN.—The record number of twelve children were received into full mem- bership at Gwytherin C.M. Church meeting on Thursday night. LLANDDEWI.—The harvest thanksgiv- ing services were held on Wednesday at Llanddewi Church, when the special preacher was the Rev. James Davies, M.A., Liverpool. OBITUARY.—After a lingering illness, the death occurred on Friday of Mr. Robt. J Williams, Siop Isaf, L1 angernyw, at the age of 55 years. Deceased was buried on Tues. | day, at the Parish Churchyard.

Colwyn Bay District Council. REMARKABLE DEBATE. LANDOWNERS' REPLY TO INSINUATIONS. The monthly meeting of the Colwyn Bay District Council was held on Tuesday after- noon, Mr. David Gamble (Chairman) pre- siding. The following members were also present:—Messrs. T. H. Morgan (Vice- Chairman), George Bevan, Joseph Dicken, D. O. Williams, Rev. W. Hughes, Samuel Jones, Dr. F. L. Wood, George Clare, T. E. Purdy, Thomas Hoskins, Wm. Davies, Hugh Davies, J. Berth Jones, Wm. Greenfield, Wm. Horton, Edward Allen, Hugh Hughes, and T. R. Davies; together with the Clerk (Mr. James Amphlett), the Deputy Clerk (Mr. Jos. H. Roberts), and the other officials. THE RHIW BOUNDARY WALL. Arising out of the minutes of the Sanitary Committee referring to the Rhiw boundary wall, and a resolution passed thereat, Mr. Purdy said he wished to make an ex- planation. He desired to say that the ad- joining owners concerned in this matter were absolutely clear of anything that might have been in the minds of anyone regarding the land. Mr. Samuel Jones asked for the letter to be read which had been sent by the said owners to the Council. The Clerk read the letter, which was as follows — The Chairman of the Urban District Council, Colwyn Bay. Dear Sir,—Our attention has been called to the statements made at the last Council meeting by Messrs. Purdy and Davies, in reference to the position of the boundary wall at Rhiw. containing an inference that unfair means had been adopted to rob the Council and ratepayers of a portion of their land, and give the same to the abutting owners. We understand that the land has been measured several times, and we re- spectfully ask through you that the measure. ments be made public at the next Council meeting. NN-c wish to further call your attention to a report from the Sanitary Committee to the Press, stating that the "'Owners with themselves had made a mistake as to the correct bounoary. We therefore wish to sav: — 1 st. We have not made any mistake as to our boundary. 2nd. We were not consulted as to the position of the wall. 3rd. NV-e have had no communication with the Sanitary Committee re- specting the same whatsoever, and much resent the use of our names without our permission. >>e aiso wish to know, if it is part of a Councillor s duty, or even permissable, for him to enter upon private owner's property and measure their private grounds. This was done by Councillor Purdy and an assist- ant from the Surveyor's office, without per- mission or even a notice of his intention. We submit that this is a kind of in. quisition that no self-respecting property owner can be expected to submit to, and we trusit the Council as a whole will wish to dissociate themselves from the same, and that they will protect owners from such action in the future. We are, Yours truly, "F. J. TUCKER, H. W. JONES, SAMUEL JONES." Mr. Purdy said that at the last meeting he mentioned nobody's name, but asked if the boundary wall had been right. At a meeting on the Monday Mr. William Jones, their Surveyor, said the Council were a foot ana a half over their measure, and it was suggested that the line had been removed. The Surveyor showed the plans, and he (Mr. Purdy) asked if Mr. Jones' assistant might go up and measure the place. He would apologise to the owners concerned if he did wrong, and pay anything for the trespass he might have made. At a special meeting of the Committee a resolution was passed that the land be surveyed, but Mr Amphlett, their Clerk, had said they could not act on that until the Council had approved. Another resolution was subsequently passed that the land be measured. The measure- ments which were got on the East side of Rhiw-road were 300 feet 9 inches; according to the deed it should be 297. The other side measurement was 264 feet 10 inches, against 263, in the deed. Mr. Bevan Is that a gain to the Council? Mr. Purdy replied it was. What was done by him was in good faith, and he made no charge against anyone, but the Surveyor had made a mistake. The owners were men above suspicion to do anything for their own gain, and he moved that the minute be re- ferred back. The Chairman Do you maintain that the wall is in the wrong place? Mr. Purdy: I do. Mi. William Horton seconded Mr. Purdy. WANTED THE TUBLIC TO KNOW. Mr. Samuel Jones said two very serious statements were made at the last Council meeting respecting that matter, and they affected him in a double capacity—first as a member of the Council, and again as one of the private owners of the land in ques- tion. The statements were quoted in the papers, and, taking that of Mr. Purdy first, everyone knew that the inference it con- tained was far more dangerous and difficult to rebut than a direct charge like Mr. Wm. Davies' "that there has been all kinds of dodges to get the land." That could be met and dealt with in another place, but to that, he would refer again. Mr. Davies said, the sooner the better the public know." He did not always agree with Mr. Davies, but he was entirely at one with him there he (the speaker) wanted the public to know the whole truth. As for Mr. Purdy's state- ment, he (Mr Jones) should point out in the first place that he was away on his holidays when the wall was set out, and he did not see it until nearly completed. Neither had he had any communication in any form whatever with the Surveyor respecting it, and he was assured by the other owners that they had not had anything whatever to say or do in the matter. The Surveyor set out the wall entirely on his own responsibility. Mr. Purdy visited the place more or less every day for two or three weeks, if not a month, and from the remarks he made to men on the ground he had evidently some sus- picion in his mind that the wall was being built in the wrong place. What was Mr. Purdy's plain duty as a member of the Council under the circumstances? Was it not to state his suspicions to the Surveyor, who could have at once verified matters by consulting the plan and the deeds in his possession? But that did not suit Mr. Purdy's purpose. Then there was the Sani- tary Committee's meeting. Who had control of that land? Surely it was Mr. Purdy's duty to mention the matter there, the proper place for such business, but Mr. Purdy was sftill silent. Then there was the General Purposes Committee meeting, where all the Council met to consider new or difficult pro- blems. Still Mr. Purdy was silent. But when the Council -net in public, and the newspaper men were all anxious for copy, and a number of ratepayers were present, Mr. Purdy stood up and hurled that bomb- shell into their midst. What his intention was he (the speaker) did not know; he could only guess. What the inference was came to him very forcibly a day baiter whilst walk- ing in the street, when he was asked by more than one how be had managed to square the Surveyor to get me that land." The charge was entirely without foundation, ihew, hear)—but it placed innocent men under a cloud of suspicion that was not pleasant—men who bore an honoured name long years before Mr. Purdy was known in the district. Did Mr. Purdy know that the wall was right or not? If he knew it was right, he stood condemned for an untrue and unfair suggestion. But if he did not know he stood doubly condemned as a councillor and a public man 'or not making himself acquainted with the facts that were there for him and would have been produced at any time within an hour or two. The facts of the case were that the deed and plan con- veying tihe land to the Council showed the measurement at the east end to be 297 feet,

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and at the west end 263 feet. It had been I measured since the last Council meeting about six times, he was informed he knew it had been measured three times, and each time with the same result, although under the supervision of Messrs. Purdy and Davies. Unfortunately, for them, land would not contract and expand, and the facts were that instead of 297 feet at one end it was oo feet 9 inches, and instead of 263 feet at the other it was 265 feet, clearly showing that the Council, instead of being robbed, had had more land than they were entitled to. Mr. Jones then proceeded to read a letter from Mr. J. M. Porter, agent to the owners of the land, when it was originally conveyed, which, he urged, clearly proved his contention that the Council had had too much land. If the private owners' land measured up to the correct line of the Council's boundary, where was the wall and where did the Coun- cil stand ? He did not threaten he was a man of peace, but he was only one of the owners. And I ask you in all seriousness (Mr. Jones continued) to look at the position that these men have placed you in. It may very well cost the ratepayers hundreds of pounds, instead of trying to dishonourably wriggle out of legal and moral obligation. And now, gentlemen, I am going to deal with the whole Council. When this land was purchased by the Colwyn Bay Water- works Company from the Pwllycrochan Estate Company, it was bought subject to the clause in the conveyance and deeds, which was as follows:—" And it is hereby agreed and declared by and between the said parties hereto that the Waterworks Company, their successors, or assigns, shall, whenever re- quired so to do by a notice, in writing, by, or on behalf of the said Limited Company, their successors or assigns, erect, and at all times thereafter maintain in good repair and condition, a stone or brick wall six feet in height at the least along the northerly ana westerly sides ot the said plot, piece, or parcel 'of land situate at Rhiw Fawr afore- said and hereinbefore expressed to be here- said and hereinbefore expressed to be here- by granted." Now, that clearly limits the present Council as the owners to build this wall. There is no time limit in the clause, and besides, whoever heard of an honour- able person, much less a public body like the Urban District Council of Colwyn Bay, pleading the Statute of Limitations? And I wish to show by correspondence that the Council have all along recognised their responsibility and have never dreamt of re- futing it until quite recently. They have been requested from time to time to carry out their undertaking, but have asked to defer it through lack of funds, &c., and so the matter has not been seriously pressed upon them, until they in their wisdom saw fit to let this strip of land as allotments, and the matter became more or less serious. The speaker here read a letter from Mr. J. M. Porter, dated January 29th, 1909, re- specting the boundary. And now, gentlemen, he proceeded, 1 say distinctly the Council would not, in my opinion, have disputed their liability to build this wall according to their deed, but for the action of one or two members, who, as is always the case, raised a cry of "cliques," trickery, jobbery, spending the ratepayers' money, &c., as though they were the only honest people ig. the world, I wonder some- i times how much money the Council have had to spend on account of such actions? Here, at any rate, they have come very near rushing the Council into what might have proved a very costly business. I do not wish to speak of my own action in the matter but when the resolution was moved, and moved, I believe, against the mover's own conscience, and carried, I believe, against the consciences of practically the whole Council, as a compromise, because of the shouting and bullying of Messrs. W. Davies and Purdy, that the owners should be asked to contribute half of the cost of building the wall, I met the other owners, and if you ask them they will tell you, I with difficulty persuaded them to give way and pay the money. I now see I made a great mistake, and I must confess the Coun- cil stand condemned, and have come out of the matter very badly and dishonourably. {He:u, hear.) The Council allowed itself to do a wrong thing. Mr. Davies said all sorts of dodges had been resorted to to get the land. Now, I put it to you, who has done the dodging, and who has got the land? There is an old saying, Treat every man as a rogue till you prove him to be honest. I refuse to order my life by that maxim. Some men are like sleuth hounds, always on the scent for barbage always following up some fancied clue of trickery, jobbery or dodgery. Such men, in my opinion, are en- tirely unfitted as public representatives. Thank God, there is still some honour left in the world. I have only one more thing to say. When these men discovered that they had put their foot in it, and made a Treat mistake, instead of taking an honour- able course, and apologising for their own actions, they resorted to a mean and con- temptible device to deceive the public, and wrote a letter to the Press which is absolute- ly untrue. (The speaker quoted from a local circular). What right had these men to use our-the owners' name? We, the owners, had not made a mistake, neither had we passed one single word with those men, and I ask how dared they make use of our pames? I will conclude by quoting the Bis- hop of Manchester, who said that the worst public man he knew was the man who made a mistake and then refused to admit it. (Hear, hear.) MR. PURDY'S Zi,ooo CHALLENGE. Mr. Purdy stated he wished to emphatic- ally deny the statement made by Mr. Jones that he had been visiting the place daily. He was not at the place in Rhiw-road until the day before the last Council, and he would give j £ i,ooo if anyone could contra- diet his statement. Mr. Jones was trying to belittle him. If he had done anything wrong, he would apologise for it. He felt in his mind that the measurements had been altered, and he would leave the matter to the public. He had acted straight to- wards the public as a man and as a gentle- man. Mr. Jones had no right to make the insinuations he had done. WTiat he had done he would do again, if he felt as he did when he moved in the matter. Mr. Wm Davies said in reference to the part he had taken in the matter he was sorry it had gone so far. Matters proved that his advice was the correct one. Within a day or two of the event a paper was de- livered in every hou-se, and it was ultimately found that the wall had been put II feet 2 different to where the boundary was t come. When they went to the place they could see there was something wrong, but as it was raining so much they could do nothing more. He had looked into the matter and found that the wall was quite correct with the old plan, and they ought to rectify what was wrong. The division line to each house was a yard short. He hoped the mat- ter would be a lesson in future. He had been misled. They had not the deeds or plan before them, and he hoped that every Committee before they tackled anything again of a similar kind would have deeds and plans before them. If he used the word dodging," he must have made it in refer- ence to the wall, and not to the land. When matters were considered he was glad there was a Statute of Limitations, but as soon as he found that the wall was in its proper place—(interruption). Mr. Dicken thought they had had quite enough discussion on the matter. None of them liked to hear such an unpleasant one. (Hear, hear.) But Mr. Davies had mention- ed his name in the matter. Mr. Purdy stated at the last Council that two yards of land had been lost to the Council —— Mr. Purdy: No, no. Continuing, Mr. Dicken said Mr. Purdy had said that practically the wall had been put on two yards of the Council's land. If Mr. Purdy would remember, he asked him if he could prove the statement, as it was a very serious one, and Mr. Purdy did not answer. The Council was doing its best for the town, and they should not be throwing mud at each other in that place. They got plenty of that from Rhos. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Purdy protested that he had not made a statement; he had no right to make one. He asked a question in the purest, simplest and most honourable manner possible. Mr. Morgan said it was an unfortunate discussion. When he heard the denials made he was surprised, a.s the matter was referred to the Sanitary Committee to deal with it. It was only natural, after making a mistake, a member should apologise for it. It was due to the Council that it should be done. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Purdy said he certainly apologised for having mentioned the matter at the Council meeting. He was very sorry such feeling had crept in. The figures given him were those of their officials. The Chairman said he must correct Mr. Purdy on the figures. Those figures were taken from a plan, where they were so minute that they could not be doepende4 upon. Mr. Dicken It is impossible. After further discussion, Mr. W. Davies admitted that he had been misled entirely. It was caused through not seeing the deed. He did not see that there was an apology necessary. He referred to the wall, and not the land. The amendment to refer the minute back to the Committee was lost. The Rev. W. Hughes stated that he was sorry reflections had been made on the Surveyor, who had done his work well on the Sanitary Committee. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Edward Allen also regretted the re- flections upon the Surveyor made by certain members of the Council. That discussion ought to teach them not to play too much to the gallery. (Hear, hear.) CONFIDENCE IN THE SURVEYOR. At a later period of the Council's delibera- tions Mr. Allen pressed for an apology from the members who had made a mistake to the Surveyor. He had noticed that the as. persions cast upon him were akin to saying that he was not doing his duty to the Council or the members. If those members referred to did not apologise, he moyed that the Council tender him an apology. Rev. W. Hughes seconded, because Mr. Jones had done his work well. The Chairman said he felt sure that if those two members had gone to the Sur. veyor and thrashed the matter out, all would be well. Mr. W. Davies (with feeling) said he hoped they were not going to put him in it. He simply protested against the thing, and wanted it to go straight to the public. He thought he had done very right. Mr. Dicken protested against the Council as a body being asked to apologise. It would be better to have a vote of confidence in their Surveyor passed, if they would not apologise. Mr. W. Davies (indignantly) Why should you say "they"? (Laughter.) Mr. Dicken referred to Mr. Davies' ad- mission that the matter had been a lesson to him. Mr. Davies retorted that be meant as to hot having deeds and plans before them. The Chairman I hope the reporters will not report all this. Mr. Allen: I hope they do. Mr. T. R. Davies thought Mr. W. Davies should apologise, and that he had gone too far. Cries of ".kpologis-e A I A vote of confidence in the Surveyor was passed, in which Messrs. W. Davies and Purdy joined.