The North Wales Weekly News

Wales and the Royal Arms. RED DRAGON OR LIONS RAMPANT. To the Editor of The Weekly News. Sir,-I venture to approach your pages again in fear and trembling, but with a deep sense of gratitude to the genial Vicar of Prestatyn, in that he has deigned to consider my epistle worthy of a reply and although I have not the temerity to measure arms with him on the score of. heraldry, my knowledge of which is slight, yet I will endeavour to oppose obstacles in the form of questionings and doubts, as by so doing we may arrive at some glimmering of the truth as to the real ensigns of the Ancient British or Welsh Princes. The whole question of the Welsh dragon has, I believe, been thoroughly threshed out some years ago in a genealogical magazine by Mr. Fox-Davis, and the result was disastrous to the unfortunate animal, but still it is hard to give up a custom which at any rate has been in vogue since the reign of Henry VII. I hope the Rev. Meredith Hughes does not consider that I have a brief on behalf of the Red Dragon, but am prepared to accept with cheer- fulness his version, if fully proved. Certain crafty reasoners maintain, I believe, by a species of logic, that nothing has ever existed, and that we are not, so it behoves one to go warily. Owen Rhoscomyl has advanced a whole mul- titude of dragons, surely sufficient to devour the lonely Wyvern of Taillefer. He mentions the dragon ensign of the legionaries, that of the North, the traditional home of the ancestors of the Welsh Princes, but he has forgotten that Gildas called Maelgwn Gwynedd Draco In- sularis," or Island Dragon, but whether this bore reference to this sinner or to his ensign I am ignorant. Then there is also the story, one of the oldest in the Mabinogion, of Lludd and Llevelys, which deals with the doings of a couple of infuriated dragons, one red, presumably Welsh, and one white, probably Saxon, typifying the long struggle between the two nations. But what is more important is that Owen Rhoscomyl definitely states that Owain Glyn- dwr raised the red dragon standard on a white ground against the Walls of Carnarvon," and this upon contemporary evidence, too." This Mr. Hughes has not yet contradicted. Bradley states the same thing as regards the Corwen district in his delightful "Owen Glyn- dwr," which I recommend to your readers. He also says that Glyndwr was at one time Scu- liger," or squire, to the Lancastrian Bolingbroke, which is significant, though I fail to comprehend what caused Owain to adopt his rival's badge on his seal or on his banner, if he did raise it as the above writers assert. I regret that I failed to find the Hotel Soubise in Paris, so had to be content with a view of the copies, and per- haps there are other tangible evidences of Glyn- dwr and his reign on the Continent. ciwr and his reign on the Continent. The Arms which so much amused Mr. Hughes are those given under the head of Glyndyfrdy in Powys Fadog, and I presumed them to be (if not of Gruffydd Vychan) those of Glyndwr prior to his accession to the Welsh Throne. lolo Goch gives quite a different coat to any previ- ously mentioned to his friend and patron. Has Mr. Hughes noticed this ? Or does he maintain that he had always used the arms of Llewelyn ? If so, then I am glad to see that he falls in line with the usually accepted version of Glyndwr's descent through his mother from Llewelyn (Ein Llyw Olaf). I need not refer to his derivation from the Powys and South Wales Princes- Owain would not have dared to seize the Royal Arms had he no claim, nor would he have been so eagerly accepted by the Welsh nation as their legitimate Prince. Alas Guttun Owen, the infallible, has de- molished poor Margaret, the presumed younger sister to Glyndwr's mother, and ancestor of Henrv VII. This is certainly bad news for the unfortunate English royal pedigree in Burke, for Powys Fadog, Bradley, &c., &c., but I hope it will not disturb the harmony of those who are urging the recognition of Old Wales in the Royal Standard. As to the descendants of Owain Glyndwr in the female line, most Welsh genealogists agree, I think, and the following uphold Powys Fadog, Pennant, the Tai-Croesion MSS, Burke (Croft family), Bradley, &c. and I have no doubt that Lewys Dwnn and others have some- thing to say upon this point, so Guttun Owain has a majority against him. A note on the male descendants was given in last week's issue of The North Wales Weekly News. It has been the custom of some English people to sneer at Welsh pedigrees, I believe, but a perusal of Burkes' Peerage will display the farcical absurdity of a great many English titles and families ridiculous re-creations, descent of a dignity through the female side very much re- moved, the adoption of high sounding names for some far-fetched reason are all very well in their way, but hardly satisfying. I agree with Mr. Hughes that Welsh families of note have generally ended in heiresses, but with the exception perhaps of the Cherletons of Powys, I fail to see where the Norman Lords come in in North Wales. In the South it was a different matter, of course. As to the theory of the non-hereditary char- acter of Welsh Arms, I refer Mr. Hughes to the article (somewhat intricate) upon Welsh pedi- grees by Mr. H. F. J. Vaughan, B.A., B.C.L., in the transactions of the Cymmrodorion Society (Y Cymmrodor), vol. x., part i. and ii.-1889. It is of interest. Prior to taking leave ef vour pages, might I venture to draw Mr. Hughes' attention to a fresh field for his patriotic ener- gies ? Wales, apparently so proud of its an- cient British Ancestry, has no fit memorials to its old heroes. Why is not Sycarth national property ? And why are not Glyndwr and the Llewelyns perpetuated in carved stone ? Alas the only monument worthy of mention, that of Buddug (Boadicea) has been erected on the banks of the Thames by the hands of a people whose ancestors certainly never opposed the Roman in these Islands, and who arrived here, some 500 years after Buddug's wars, from the forests of Germany Your other writer mentions the title of Pen- I dragon." This I. had, of course, noticed, but was difficlen t about mentioning it. According to one writer (Marie Trevelyan), Halle says that Owain assumed the cognomen oi the Dragon." Perhaps this has reference to the Pendragon ? Anyhow, Lions rampant or Dragon, Eagle or Cross Fitchee. it matters not much to me so long as Old Wales is really represented by some device or other in the Royal Standard. My respects to the Rev. Mr. Hughes.—Your- &c. CAD FA EN.

Owen Rhoscdmyi s Reply. To the Editor of The Weekly News. Sir,—First let me state that the P.S. which was somehow printed at the foot of my letter was not mine. I sent my letter through a friend, and 1 do not doubt that either my friend or the printer can explain the mistake. If I remember right, it had no initials after it, and so may have been mistaken for mine, So much granted, however. I must note that the Vicar of Prestatyn has shirked my direct question as to why Glyndwr should raise the Red Dragon as his standard, before Carnarvon, if it were not a Welsh National Emblem, but the badge of the family of his enemy, Henry IV., descendant of Edmund Crouchback. I must note, also, that he says that I gaily proceed to annex every dragon from the days of Ostorious Scapula to Henry Tudor, and to claim for almost every heraldic wyvern a Welsh origin." I must answer this last by request- ing the Vicar to withdraw that statement as plainly as words can do so. I did not claim for any wyvern or dragon a Welsh origin. My words were quite clear, namely, that the dragon was a Roman badge in this island, and that it crops up afterwards in all the parts of once Roman Britain that I named, while the Red Dragon was a badge of the Welsh nation so early as Glyndwr's time, and even still earlier, as is evidenced by that line of mediaeval poetry which we now use as the motto of the Red Dragon. I note that he next accuses me of verbal quibbling, and that he then assumes that I say that the Red Dragon was part of the arms of the Tudor family. In reply, I tell him, as bluntly as may be, that I have nowhere said that the Red Dragon was the Tudor coat of arms, but on the contrary have said, in print, over and over again, that when Harry Tudor wished to call his countrymen to arms, to follow him into England to win the crown, he raised the Red Dragon banner of Wales, and they fol- lowed it. He accuses me of bringing the lively imag- ination of a successful novelist to the task of elucidating an abstruse heraldic problem." As to the innuendo in this very ingenuous state- ment, I may tell him that it was from the study of heraldry and history that I passed to novel wViting. And since, in that statement, he im- plies that he himself is capable of elucidating an abstruse heraldic problem," I will ask him to elucidate, for your readers, the not very abstruse problem of why Harry Tudor, in rais- ing the Dragon Standard of Old Wales, should have placed that Dragon on a banner of white and green. Upon his answer shall rest his claim to rank as a dictator on heraldry. 1 have nothing to do with the question of the arms granted to Jasper and Edmund Tudor, nor with the arms of any son or descendant of Owen Tudor, because I am not writing about the Tudor arms at all, but about the banner of Wales, a totally different thing. And here let me commend to the Vicar the letter of Mr. John Edwards, which so aptly brings in Uthyr Pendraic. Note that I do not enter into any controversy as to whether any Uther Bendragon ever did or did not live, but he appears and bulks largely in the work of Geoffry of Monmouth, so there we have the Dragon implied as a badge of British Sover- eignty as early as the days of the father of Rich- ard 1. In conclusion, I will ask again for an answer to three straight points- (1) If the Red Dragon was not the recognised Standard of Welsh aspirations, then why did Harry Tudor raise that standard, instead of his own, to call his countrymen to battle ? (2) The same in the case of Owen Glyndwr, why did he raise the Dragon on a white ground, if the Dragon were not only not a Welsh emblem, but the emblem only of a family of his enemy, Henry IV. ? (3) And how does he explain the presence of the still earlier allusion to the Red Dragon as the emblem of Wales, in the line which is now our national motto, if the Dragon were not then the well recognised emblem of Wales ? I am, &c., OWEN RHOSCOMYL." Note.-We regret that through someone's mis- take (not our own) the postscript referred to was added to "Owen Rhoscomyl's" previous letter.—ED. N. W. W. N.

.=- Talycain Mart Sale. Messrs. Robert & Rogers Jones, on Monday, conducted a special Bank Holiday sale at their Mart. There was an exceptionally heavy entry, the spacious yard being well filled with animals of prime quality. The crossbred lambs were a feature, and met with a ready demand, with the result that a good clearance was effected. There was also a ready sale in the fat cattle section. To emphasise that fact, we only need mention that by rail alone, sixteen trucks were despatched at the close of the sale, two others being des- patched to Festiniog the next morning. There were buyers from Nottingham, Newark, Sutton Coldfields, Blackpool, Timperley, and other large English centres one of these buyers alone secured nearly a score of fat cattle. The en- tries comprised 150 fat wethers and ewes, 1,300 fat crossbred lambs, 31 fat cattle, 24 calving cows and heifers, 16 store cattle. 25 fat calves and a number of pigs. The prices realised were as follows:—Fat wethers and ewes, £ 2 5s. fat crossbred lambs, 34s. 3d. fat cattle, £ '20 calv- ing cows and heifers, £ 2\ store cattle, £ 9 17s. 6d. fat calves, £ 15s. The next sale is, announced for Monday, August 8th. L

Abergele Sparks. One of the most intelligent men in Abergele has been completely carried awav with the won- derful prophecies of a patent medicine almanac It appears that this great work of art for the year of our Lord 1910 says something i Uotic about a National Calamity," and that we should have a storm of wind and rain duriiVr the month of July. Poor old "Almanac Caergy'bi must take a back seat now. And we are sup- posed to be a civilised people. Superstition is harder to kill than a domestic cat. I have a good mind to go in for the prophetic business myself. Let me try my hand this week by prophesying that a horse show will be held in Abergele next Monday. If the world does not come to and end in the meantime, we shall have another horse show twelve months hence. I have I not finished yet, either. If the Tories get into power again, your bread will cost you more- and Ireland will not have Home Rule. Neither will Wales. The marriage of Miss Lizzie Jones, only daugh- ter of the late Mr. and Mrs. John Lewis Jones, and sister of Messrs. Moss and W. E. Jones, fish- mongers, Abergele. to Mr. Griffith Roberts, late of Liverpool, was solemnized at the M. E. Church, Ashley, U.S.A., on Tuesday, July 6th. SEARCHLIGHT.

Llandudno and Colwyn Bay Electric Railway. The gross traffic receipts for the thirty-one and a half weeks ended the 8th inst. amount to ^5,985, against £ 6,036 in the corresponding period last year, a decrease of 51.

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Colwyn Bay National Eisteddfod. THE MUSICAL CONTESTS. ——— WELSH v. ENGLISH CHOIRS. We recently published the list of entries in the literary section of the forthcoming Colwyn Bay National Esiteddfod, the number of which established a new record in the history of the festival. Now we have particulars as to the entries in the departments of music, elocution, and art. In all there are 1489 entries in these sections, as follows Recitations, 166 Choirs, 29 Music, 623 Arts, 671. Chief Choral, 3 North Staffordshire, Southport, Rhymney Gwent. Second Choral, for voices not less than 60 nor more than 80, 4: Crewe, Bangor, Trecynon, and Cefn Mawr. Male-Voice Choirs, 6 Swansea, Habergham, Garw, Manchester Orpheus, Nelson, and Warring- ton. Female Choirs, 6 Dublin, Carmarthen, Dowlais, Coedpoeth, Holyhead and Bangor. Juvenile Choirs (35 to 50 voices) 10: Abercwmboi,, Ogmore Vale, Romilly, Shrewsbury, Bargoed Aberystwith, Pontypool, Holyhead, Rhos, and Rhvl. Vocal Quartette, 18: duet, tenor and bass, 36; duet, soprano and contralto, 27 soprano solo, 57 mezzo-soprano solo, 53 contralto solo, 50 tenor solo, 46 baritone solo, 54 bass solo, 34; pennill- ion singing, North Wales style, 8, South Wales style, 7. Trio, piano, violin and cello, i pianoforte com- petition (open) 72 for competitors under 16, 30 open violin solo, 34; pedal harp, 10; small harp, 7 triple harp, 4; cello solo, 6; solo on any musical instrument except the organ (for the blind), 7. Compositions. Chorus for male voices with pianoforte accompaniment, 5 mixed quartette, un- accompanied, Welsh or English words, 18; duet, any voices, Welsh or English words, 2 song for any voice, Welsh or English words, 36; best collection of unpublished Welsh folk songs, 4. Arts and Science Picture in oil or water-colour of any incident in Welsh history or legend, 8; landscape in oil or water colour, 28 landscape in oil or water colour (confined to amateurs) 34; study of head, in oil, water colour or pastel, 29 painting in oil or water colour, still life, 21 painting in oil or water colour, still life (confined to amateurs) 32 seascape in oil or water colour, 20; plants and flowers from nature in water colour, six studies (confined to students in any school of art or art class) 8. Sculpture A high relief in plaster, life-size, of Hwfa Mon or Dr. Joseph Parry, 6 model of wall fountain, 4 modelled design in plaster, for a decorative panel in high relief, i plaster panel in low relief, 5; full size plaster model of a shield, 2. Black and White Set of three humorous sketches, 11 design for an illustrated title page to any Welsh Book, 17; design for initial capital letters, 12 design for a book plate for a free public library, 10; pen and ink or wash sketch of a Welsh "ingle nook," 9; light and..shadetdrawing from the cast, 22 group of four models, 16 two respective problems, worked in ink, 7. Designs: Leaded light window, Welsh emblems to be introduced, i Welsh calendar in colours, 6 Certificate for the successful competitors at the Royal National Eisteddfod, Colwyn Bay, 1910,4. Photography Twelve photographs illustrating the glacial action in Wales, 2 photographs of the houses or birth places of eminent Welshmen within a radius of 30 miles of Colwyn Bay, i twelve photographic views of thatched cottages in Wales, 8; twenty-five lantern slides, views of places of historical interest within a radius of 30 miles of Colwyn Bay, 2 domestic interior with figures, 4; domestic interior (confined to amateurs) 5; architectural subject (interior) 4; architectural subject (exterior) 4 group of three studies of child- ren at play (confined to amateurs) 5; study of laughing face (confined to amateurs) 7 series of twelve photographs of views in Colwyn Bay and neighbourhood, i photograph of domestic animals or pets (confined to amateurs under 16 years of age) 1 set of not less than six photos suitable for illustrating Mr. Theo. Watts Dunton's Aylwin," i Wood Carving Wooden spoon and fork, 8. Architecture: Design for a public clock tower suitable for erection in stone or brick at Colwyn Bay, 19; design for a village club house, 20 design for square group of four cottages, 22. Natural History: Collection of fossils, 1 collect- ion of wild plants, 4; collection of insects, 1. School Work: Set of exercise books, i life history of a growing plant, 4; four pen or pencil sketches of farm animals, 9 map of Wales, 10; original wood models accompanied by the working drawings of the same, 1 series of not less than 20 models in an approved course of clay modelling (limited to children under 9 years of age) 4 series of not less than 30 models in an approved course of cardboard, i set of simple apparatus to illustrate an elementary course in one of the following mechanics, heat, light, 1. Metal Work Beaten copper name plate for a residence, 4 inkstand in copper, brass or pewter and enamel, 5 metal repousse ladies' belt clasp, 4.; gold or silver and enamel pendant, 5. Leather Work Blotter case in cut and embossed leather, i decorated parchment book cover, laced with leather thongs, 1. Crewel Work Elizabethan bed spread.worked, 5. Plain Needlework Baby's robe, 5. Lacework: Set for blouse, 4. Knitting and Crochet: Shoulder cape, 12 set of insertion, 11. Embroidery Table centre, 25. Drawn Thread Work Afternoon tea cloth, 22. Competitions for the blind, 17. Special Prizes-Given by the Denbighshire branch of the Welsh Industries Association, 9 by the Carnarvonshire branch of the Welsh Industries Association, 23 by the Flintshire branch of the Welsh Industries Association, 10 by the Brabazon Employment Society, 36.

Sudden Death of a Bangor Gentleman Information reached Bangor on Monday afternoon of the sudden death of Mr. Heber Jones, a traveller in the firm of Messrs. Thomas Lewis, Bangor. Mr. Jones, who was well known and highly respected, and who was in his usual health, went to Pwllheli last Tuesday, where he died on Monday from Pneumonia. Deceased leaves a widow, with whom the deepest sym- athy is felt.

North Wales Coast League. INTERESTING NEW SCHEME. A meeting of the Executive Committee of the North Wales Coast League was held on Saturday afternoon at the Station Hotel, Llandudno Junction. The following members of the Com- mittee were present Messrs. R. D. Richards, Bangor; W. J. Jones, Llanllechid; D. Roberts, Llandudno Junction J. T. Roberts, Llandudno; L. M. Anderson, Bangor; H. O. Hutchings, Carnarvon; W. E. Roberts, Llanrwst; J. 0. Davies, Colwyn Bay E. Lloyd Williams, Ban- gor (Secretary). Mr. T. F. Dargie, the President of the League, arrived at a later stage of the meeting, and was applauded on entering the room. Llangefni having failed to pay a sum of money as ordered at the last meeting to Llechid, it was decided to deduct the amount from the deposit made with the League. The meeting went on to consider the question of fixtures, and it was resolved unanimously to arrange the fixtures in accordance with a sys- tern similar to the Fletcher system. Mr. Ander- son (Bangor) proposed that the work be entrusted to the Secretary, Mr. E. Lloyd Williams, exclu- sively, and Mr. J. T. Roberts (Llandudno), as an amendment, moved that the work be done by a small committee, including the Secretary. The amendment was put and lost, and the arrange- ment of the fixtures was left entirely in the hands of the Secretary, it being understood that they would be completed early in September, instead of late in October as under the old system. With a view to enabling the Secretary to fi dates suitable for the different localities, he was asked to send a circular letter to the clubs asking for lists of dates of local holidays, &c. Mr. J. T. Roberts said that teams could not be got for fixtures at Llandudno or Llandudno Junction in September, and Mr. J. O. Davids suggested that the football season should begi11 on October 1st instead of September 1st. The latter date was, however, not altered, but, with a view to dealing with difficulties such as that raised by Mr. Roberts, a supervisory committee was appointed, comprising lr. Roberts (Llandud- no and Mr Tom Thomas (Llanrwst). They wlll advise the Secretary on these matters, but he will have the sole charge of the actual fixtures- The Llanrwst club applied that they should be excused the payment of the fine of 10s. lV' flicted at the last meeting for having failed to find a team to meet Bangor as ordered by tlle committee. Mr. Anderson said that the club had not paid the sum of £ 2 3s. to Bangor to cover their expenses, &c., in connection WltP the match. Mr. J. O. Davies objected to atl reconsideration of the fine until Mr. N. H.ogeí. Jones, of the Llanrwst club, apologised for bl statement that they were determined not to pla ,t e Bangor on the date in question, although tfre League had ordered it. Mr. W. E. Robert5; of Llanrwst, who stated that the club alre.adit had a deficit which would tend to cripple it added to by this fine, added that Mr. N. Roge Jones had already apologised to his own c°^n mittee for the statement complained of. the motion of Mr. Davies, it was then agreed t reduce the fine to 5s., on condition that the due to Bangor was paid forthwith, and th apology of Mr. Rogers Jones was sent to tb Executive by the next meeting. Mr. Robef said he would undertake that the payment Bangor should he made at the meeting of I11 committee on Wednesday next. Mr. Davies asked whether a player under sos; pension could sign a players' entry form before the expiration of the period for which he \v, under suspension ? The Chairman and Secfe tary both held that this could not legally be do^e' and the Chairman ruled accordingly. ng The question as to the definition of a plaY1 e member was raised, and it was decided to lea it entirely in the hands of the Association, Executive will consider it at the next meet111^ With a view to encouraging junior clubec- associate themselves with the League, the retary was asked to approach a number of li* junior teams which were mentioned. ted Mr. Dargie, the President, was then inVlas- address the Committee, and he said he was ple ed to be present at the meeting, and to that they were doing their best to look after t rising teams, to take charge of them, and to them into line. It was a pity that grohev teams should be in any way neglected the had considerable difficulties to meet with at start, and he was pleased to see that the s mittee were trying to get into touch WIt the many as possible. It they were to pla^ttje> game, and play it well, it was desirable that should get into line with those interested lneÝ development and progress. He hoped that t „ were going to have a good season, and a sucCe) ful one for the League generally. (ApplaUs \v The Chairman, who moved a resolution ally welcoming the President among them (a, first President to attend one of their niectillgo, said that the League was now on a sound fillare Ile cial basis, and with the help of Mr. Dargic, fol;, was no doubt that they would continue to P per. vjeS> The motion was seconded by Mr. J. O. and carried by acclamation.

Policing of Llysfaen. t ————— J1J1Je In consequence of the Local Go vet' i? Board's decision that the parish of Llys ^0^ to remain a portion of the county of c0{r and in view of the Home Secretary a I ire sented to the increase of the Car rvO so force by one constable to enable the P°lice ^j-isl1' mittee to take over the policing of the p the officers of the Denbighshire force been withdrawn, and Police-Constable W1 of Llandudno, took charge of the parish the orders of the Deputy Chief Constable J Carnarvonshire Constabulary on Satun a^eI-ec is the intention of the Police Authority °-^eflce a police station in the parish, with a reSjp tbe for a married constable and a lock-up- meantime any prisoners arrested there w ejg!> to be taken to Conway, a distance of sofli str^t miles, and all proceedings before the m |Le L° will have to be taken for the future at way or Llandudno Court.

Local Wills. Rev. Charles Tamberlaine Astley (86), of Westdale, Llandudno, pastor of the English Presbyterian Church there o thirty years, retiring some twelve year /I,82" ago •