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Llandudno and the County Council.

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Llandudno and the County Council. THE UPKEEP OF THE ROADS. At Thursday's meeting of the Carnarvonshire County Council, presided over by the Chair- man, Dr. R. Arthur-Prichard, J.P., of 'Conway, important reports were submitted with reference to certain roads which the Llandudno District Council asked should be declared main roads repairable at the expense of the county. FIRST APPLICATION, 1904. The first application was made in 1904, when the County Council directed a report to be pre- pared by the Surveyor of the County Council. The report was presented to the following County Council meetings, when a sub-committee 'was appointed to consider the report ana in- spect and report upon the road to the next meeting. These report4 follow — SURVEYOR'S REPORT. "At the last meeting I was directed to inspect Vaughan-street, Llandudno, from the station to the Parade, and the Parade and its continuance to the boundary of the district at the top of Pen- rhyn Hill, and to report thereon, bearing upon the application of the Llandudno Urban District Council to have these highways or streets de- clared a main road. Section 15 of the Highways and Locomotive Act, 1878, which, it appears, governs the maining of highways as follows Where it appears to any Highway Autho- rity that any highway within a district ought to ibecome a main road by reason of its being ,a ,medium of communication between, great towns or a thoroughfare to a railway station, or other- wise, such Highway Authority may apply to the ,County Authority for an order declaring sucii road, as to such parts aforesaid, to be a main road and the County Authority, if of opinion that there is probable,cause for the application, shall cause the road to be inspected, _and if satisfied that it ought to be a main road, shall make an order accordingly.' I inspected the Highways or Streets on the 25th day of March last. They commence, as may be gathered from the application, by the railway station., then along Vaughan-street past the end of the existing main road on to the Parade, thence alongside the Parade towards Colwyn Bay, to the bound- ary of the district at the top of Penrhyn Hill. The length of Vaughan-street is* 396 yards, and the Parade i mile 1,622 yards, together 2 miles 258 yards. Vaughan-street has tarpaved footways on either side, ranging in width from 10 to 15 feet, kerbed and channelled. The width of the carriage way in this street varies from 40ft. to 50ft., and in the length of Vaughan-street there are two squares, one in front of the railway station and the other at -thei junction of Mostyn-street. The Parade part, and to the top of Penrhyn Hill, has first a tarpaved footway on the north- ern side for a distance of 1,135 yards, the width of which is 3ft. 6in.v kerbed and channelled; the rest of the northern side, in length 2,247 yards, has a gravelled footway not kerbed or channelled. On the southern side of the parade there is a tarpaved footway ioft. wide for a length of 1,054 yards. The width of the car- riage way of the Parade varies from 18ft. to 33ft- Vaughan-street, for a length of about 530 yards, is macadamised, formerly with a local stone, latterly with Penmaenmawr stone. The other 60 is' tarpaved. About 600 yards of the Parade is tarpaved; the other 2,782 yards is macadamised partly with Penmaenmawr stone, but mostly with local stone, chiefly lime stone. Vaughan-street and a part of the Parade path have flat gradients, but the other, pad up to the top of Penrhyn Hill ascends from about 30ft. above sea level to about 200 feet in about a mile. On this hill there are three or four sharp grades for short lengths. The traffic is above the average main road traffic of the county, mainly of the tourist and residential kind. These highways afford the nearest road communication between Llandudno. and Colwyn Bay, and lead past the populous hamlets of Penrhynside and Llandrillo-yn-Rhos. The surface is in good order, except a short length in East Parade; the drainage appears well provided for and carefully looked after; there is evidence, however, of some scouring taking place near Craigside Hydro. The surface of the tar-paved footways is in very good order, and that of the gravelled foot- ways in fair order. The north side of the Parade is not fenced in two parts, one part in length about 900 yards adjoining the shore, and the other about 200 yards on Craigside Hill. Trees are planted on either side of Vaughan- street. The cost of the maintenance and repair of the length appears to ibe about 66oo annually, or1 nearly X300 a mile per year. The contribution of the County Council to- wardg the main road within the district of the Llandudno Urban District Council, in an aver- age year, is represented by 9% in the £ on uie assessable value. The expenditure of the County Council on urban and rural main roads throughout the county is represented by 4d. in the £ on the assessable value of the county. The expenditure of the District Councils, both urban and rural, on district highways is represented by an aver- age of 6d. in the £ on their respective assessable values. The contribution of the County Council towards urban main roads maintained and re- paired by urban authorities is represented by 2d. in the £ in an average year, on their re- spective assessable values." SUB-COMMITTEE'S REPORT. The members appointed on the Sub-Committee are Messrs. C. H. Darbishire, Richard Davies, J. Menzies, J. E. Greaves, J. Issard Davies, and John Owen. They were called to meet at Llan- dudno on the 3rd of June, 1904. Present: — Messrs. C. H. Darbishire, Richard Davies, J. E. Greaves, J. Issard Davies, and John Owen. The members were met and accompanied over the roads by Messrs. W. H. Jones, Robert Roberts, and E. P. Stephenson, of Llandudno. Another meeting was called for Saturday morning, the 18th of June, at the County Hall, Carnarvon. Present: Messrs. C. H. Darbishire, J. E. Greaves, and John Owen. The length is 2 miles 258 yards. Both sides of Vaughan-street are built on, except a distance of some three-quarters of a mile. Both, therefore, take the character of streets, and the former probably one of the most important in the town. The upper or eastern reach of the Parade, however, has not the appearance—although like the rest in good repair-.of a finished street; one side is not fenced for a distance of 1,100 yards; the width of the carriage way in places is only lgft., one side has no footway of any kind, the other side for a distance of 2,247 yards has a gravelled footway, in some parts narrow, no part of this gerbed, channelled, or tar- paved. If the streets are now mained the County Council in future years will probably have to meet demands for contributions towards im- proving the unfinished parts. The representatives of Llandudno presented figures intended to show that the expenditure had been somewhat over £ 220 a mile, and not somewhat under £ 300, as put forward on behalf of Llandudno. As soon as the roads gets past the boundary of Llandudno the district traffic to Colwyn Bay, which is represented as the chief through traffic which justifies the demand to main, passes along a narrow and steep dis- trict road in the Conway rural 'district; the width would be from 12 to 18 feet, and the grades vary from about one in ten to flat, when, it leads through an intermediate link of private road, on which there is a toll-gate, where it also! passes into Denbighshire, afterwards join- ing up with the district road from LLandrillo- yn-Rhos to Colwyn Bay, in the Colwyn Bay urban district. It is said that other and public roads, wider and more commodious, but a little more circuit- ous than too route above described, are in contemplation to connect up with Colwyn Bay. It is found that for its assessable value Llandudno gets in return from the County Council less towards roads than any urban or rural authority in the county; against this the traffic of Llandudno is the cause of much ex- penditure on roads in the surrounding districts. It is for the Committee to decide whether any material disturbance in the present Long-estab- lished ratio of contributions to assessable value is desirable, ought to be considered, as it might lead to much controversy and additional ex- penditure throughout' the county, and whether any considerable extension of the system of one authority finding the money for another to spend on roads is desirable, in this instance. This further maining at Llandudno would extend the system as regards the county by 17 per cent., or about one-sixth. The Committee recommend that the portion, of Vaughan-street between the terminus of the existing main road and the station be mained." ALDERMAN JOHN OWEN'S MINORITY REPORT. Alderman John Owen, a member of the Com- mittee, submitted the following minority re- port: I accept the Majority Report except in the following particulars — The upper or eastern reach of the Paraat has not the appearance of a finished street, but in appearance and state of repair is above the average of county main roads. The unfenced distance of 1,100 feet represents the unfinished portion of the Promenade which is not included in the present application. The greater part of the( side which has ,no footway is undeveloped building land, and any future widening of the roadway or construction of a footway would be at the expense of the owner of the land. "Although the road beyond the boundary of Llandudno passes along a narrow and steep road, and leads through an intermedite link of private road, it is the direct route of traffic be- tween Llandudno and Colwyn Bay. Other roads, but more circuitous than the rout above described, do now exist, and ara not merely in centemplation to connect up with Colwyn Bay. Though the tourist traffic of Llandudno makes use of the roads in the .surrounding dis- tricts, it is unfair to advance this as an argu- ment against the application. All the main roads of the county are subject to heavy tourist and commercial traffic, and such traffic benefits the whole county far more than th,JI cost of the repairs thereof. The question of the ratio of contribution to assessable value, and, if the system of one authority finding their money for another to spend on roads is desirable, are questions of principle that should be discussed apart from, and not to the prejudice of, the present ap- plication. Whatever the condition of the road between the Llandudno boundary may be, it is admitted that it is the direct route between Llandudno and Colwyn Bay, and clearly comes within the definition of the Act as being a medium of communication between great towns. Further, it is the only thoroughfare to a railway station, and it is used as such for ped- estrian and vehicular traffic from Penrhynside and district as well as the Little Orme Quarry, which is outside the bounary of Llandudno. I recommend that the whole length be mained, subject to the Llandudno Council curb- ing and channelling the portion of the footpath not already done, and that they give the County Council an indemnity against the cost of future widening or construction of footways. (Signed) JOHN OWEN." At the following Surveyor's Committee it was resolved that it be recommended that the report of the Committee be adopted. The County Council at their meeting held on the 6th day,, of October, 1904, adopted the fe- oommendation of the Surveyor's Committee. SECOND APPLICATION, 1907. The second application was made in 1907. Another Sub-Committee was appointed, which reported as follows — The members appointed on the Sub-Com- mittee are Messrs. C. 'H. Darbishire, Robert Evans, Robert Hughes, J. Issard Davies, and C. Pozzi. They were called to meet at Llan- dudno .on the 12th September, 1907. Present: All the members. The members were met and accompanied over the roads by the Chairman of the Urban Council, Messrs. W. H. Jones, and E. P. Stephenson, of Llandudno, and afterwards attended at the Town Hall to hear the views of those interested. Another meeting was called for Saturday morning, the 14th September, at the' County Hall, Carnarvon. Present: Messrs. C. H. Dar- bishire, Robert Evans, J. Issard Davies, and C. Pozzi. The length is 2 miles 42 yards. Both sides of Vaughan-street are built on, and one side or the other of the Parade is built on, except a distance of some three-quarters of a mile. Both therefore, take the character of streets and the former probably one of the most important in the town. The upper or eastern reach of the Parade, however, has not the appearance-although like the rest in good repair—of a .finished street, one side is not fenced for a distance 1,100 yards, the width of the carriage way in places is only locft., one side has not footway of any kind, the other side for a distance of 2,247 yards has a gravelled footway, in some parts narrow, no part of this kerbed, channelled, or tar paved. The representatives of Llandudno presented figures intended to show that the expenditure had been somewhat under 62,2o a mile, a traffic record was submitted, and the case generally was put before the Sub-Committee. As/psoon as the road gets past the boundary of Llandudno the direct traffic to Colwyn Bay, which is re- presented as the chief through traffic, which justifies the demand to main, passes along a narrow and steep district road in the Conway rural district, the width would be from 12 to 18 feet; and the grades vary from 1 in i„ to flat; thein it leads through an intermediate link of private road, on which there is a toll-gate, where it also passes into L-enbighshire, after- wards joining up with the district, road from Llandrillo-yn-Rhos to Colwyn Bay in the Col- wyn Bay urban district. There are other roads over which the public pass, connected with the Horton Estate, con- necting up with Colwyn Bay,, along a somewhat circuitous route, which are in private hands, and not repairable by the public. It is found that for its assessable value Llan- dudno gets in return from the County,, Council less, towards roads than) any urban or rural authority in. the county; against this the traffic of Llandudno- is the cause of much expenditure on roads in the surrounding districts. It is for the Committee to decide whether any material disturbance in the present long-established ratio of contributions to assessable value is desirable, ought to be considered, as it might lead to much controversy and additional expenditure throughout the county, and whether any con- siderable extension of the system of one author- ity finding the money for another to spend on roads is desirable in this instance. This further maining at; Llandudno would extend the system as regard's this county by 17 per cent., or about one-sixth. The previous inquiry and report affecting these roads is dated June, 1904. Recommendation.—After giving careful con- sideration to the views put forward) and to all the circumstances, the Sub-Committee cannoit re- commend the maining of the roads. Mr. J. T. Jones moved, and Mr. Thomas Ro-

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