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Conway Board of Guardians. O FFI CI AL SALARIES. Mr Rogers Jones presided at the monthly ) meeting of the Conway Guardians on Friday. I The other members present were Mrs Lloyd, Miss Lewis, Miss- Williams, Rev. J. Raymond, I Rev. E. Jiam-es Evanis, Meissirs J. W. Raynes, Edward Wiilliamis, A. J. Qld-'man, Hugh Hughes, Owen Hughes, John Williams, Robert Ellis, J. T. Taylor, Evan, Evains, Edward. Jones, William Williams, P. H. MeClemeint, David Jones (Llandudho.), David Jones (Penmaenimawr), IHiugih Owen, Hugh Davies, W. F. Jones, Owen Williams, Robert Roberts, E. J. Evans, W. Wil- kinson, Robert Williams. and H. W. Darbi- shire with the Clerk (Mir T. E. Parry), the De- puty Cleric (Mr J. W. Post), the Master (Mr Edward Jones), and the Relieving Officers. VISITORS. -Messrsi P. H. IvLcGlrement and W. F„. Jones were appointed visitors to the North Wales ,Couill,tiesl Lunatic Asylum on behalf of the Con- way Relief Committee. A RELIEVING OFFICER'S SALARY. At a meeting of the Finance Committee, the application. for an increase of salary by Mr. Fred Walliiams, the RelieVung Officer for the Cblwyn- Bay disitrict, was, fully discussed,, and it was re- commended- that the salary be raised to £ 62 per aninu/m. iMir John Wliilliajmis asiked that the minutes should be put down correctly, as: five voted for the increase and four against. Mir J. T. Taylor,, the Chairman; of the Fin- ance Committee, said it was not usual to, put down on the minutes the voting at Committees. He proposed that recommendation be adopted. Mr J. W. Raynes, in secondiing, said that at first he did not vote for the proposed increase, because he fait that the officer, should have -more, but when he saw the feeling of the Com- mittee, he had to be satisfied with the 4io. Mr John Williams said he would: move that the recommendatioil1, be not adopted. He felt that the Board were not in a position- to increase the officials' salllar.ies..MID Fred Williams, had been in the employ of the Board for eight years, andi during that period his: salary had been in- creased by ^30. They had been ^preaching to the County Council about expending money, and now they were about to do the very same thing themselves. With every due respect to the ap- plicant, he did not think that any official should apply to have his salary increased in. the middle of the year. If this application was granted to- day, there would be others to follow. Mr P. H. McC'lernent said he had been ex- pecting to bear something in favour of the re- commendation. At the Finance Cloa-ntmittee there was a very glowiing report of what the official hiad' done. 'He had as good an opinion of the officials, as, any member present, and lie was, in sympathy with every one trying to get as much salary as: he could without being a bur- den on others. In dealing with the salary of this officer, the Board were not dealing with their own. money, but that of the ratepayers. The appointment was made with a salary of ,C130 to commence with £$21 as Relieving Offi- cer. At the time of the appointment, the Local Government Board considered that the salary was too small, amd advised the Board to raise it, but they explained to the Government Board that it was a commencing salary of /130, ana not the salary of the Relieving Officer alone. The combined posts- of this officer were worth ^130. Now the Relieving Offilcerr had based his alaim for an advance because the Guardians stated to the Local Government Board that it was a commencing salary. The great complaint throughout the country, and, by the Poor Law Commissioners was that the cost of administer- ing the Poor Law was much too- heavy. (A Member: "Quite true.") This official's salary had advanced over, £30 in; seven years, and there was another official who had; been in the service of the Board 24 years, who had. a larger area, and was getting less pay than, the other two Relieving Officers. IHe should also like to. point out that, without doubt, all persons: over the age of 70, in 1910, woulfd be off the relief books, so that the work of the Relieving Officers would be getting less. During the next year, .in the Colwyn, Bay district, there would be 84 paupers of 70 years of age, and they would undoubtedly be off the books. That would reduce his wotnk by almost 84 cases. He admitted that Mr Fired Williams had a great number of paupers on, his books, but they found that as many as six and s,ev,en on the books were living together in the same house. They would, no doubt, hear the argument that Mor. Fred William-s had been able to save hundreds of pounds to the Union. They were, he was sure, all very gllad to hear it, but that was part of his dulty. The other officers did the same. He had been. through a list of what the Relieving Offioe,r for the Con.way dis- trict had saved during the last few years,, and it would surprise them to hear that in, different cases, he had salved them ^700 which the Guardians knew nothinjg about. The great cry throughout the country was that the official sal- aries were too great a burden on the rates. He would not say how many applicants there would be for the poisit if it was vacant at £ 120, or cren £ 100 a year; but the other day there were S9 applicants for a posit worth £ 2 a week. He would ask tlhe Board tOo consider the matter, seriously. If they advanced this- salary, they would have to advance the others. Mr J. W. Raynes said that the salary of Mr Fr,ed Williams, as Relieving Officer, was but £50 a year, whereas that of Mr W. G. Williams, the Conway Officer, was ^80. The rest of Mr Fred Williams' salary wias made up as- Cbllector, Vaccination Officer, and Registrar. The more work he did as collector niaturallly increased hiis emoluments. Mr Fred Williams had done more for this Union in saving the rates and relieving distress than any other officer they had had. Mr MoCllement: We don't accept that, Mr. Chairman. iMlr Raynes said that during the last two years he had saved £ 300. He would not like to name the number of families he had found and sent back to other Unions. He (Mr Raynes') had gone round his own district of Llysfaen. with the Officer, and he could, see that he was not too lenient with the poor neither was he harish; but where he found1 anybody in the family who could bring in. money, he stopped the re- lief. He did not think they were asking too. much to put Mr Williams on the same footing as. the Conway Officer, but seeing that the Fin- ance Committee thought the amount too much, he (Mr Raynes) bad agreed to the £ 10. Others could come forward, if they liked, and they con Id give them the, increase if they cared.

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