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The Municipal Campaign at Carmarthen. A meeting was held in Penuel Schoolroom on Tuesday evening, in support of the candidature of Principal Evans, Mr George T.caa.rnc, and M. T. Daniel. The chair was occupied by Mr David Y, illiam>, J.P. The Chairman, in opening the proceeding-?, refcrred to the fertile of the Church rates in Carmarthen, and To the Rction of Mr James Bagnall who ihad his corn sold by public auction. rather than pay the impost. The ra,'e,s which would bo levied under this new measure would be a Church rate in disgui.se. It was merely the, old Church rate in a new dress (hear, hear). He would rather see everything taken from his house than pay suieh a. rate. This, he. considered, was the mo-,t important municipal election during the last hundred years. Rev E. U. Thomas moved a rc:>oiution pledging the meeting to do it.s best to return the three candidates. As Nonconformists, they were prepared to fight for their princi- ples, and to suffer for the mas their fore- fa,iters had done before them. There was iron in their blood, and next Saturday would prove how m'twh iron there was in the blood cf the Konoonfoimivts of Carmarthen. Thtir principles' were religious equality and reli- gious liberty. If he had the offer to have a, fohco'l for the Baptists maintained by the public funds, lit would say No we will pay for our cwn religion." The managers cf "Voluntary" 'iiools would geit about £2 182 per child fiom pnblis sources, and then fcr the use of the school buildings (fz ly PC1 head) they were to have the appointment of teaohors, scle right to inculcate their reji- gion, a.nd to turn, the .school into a, prosely- ting agency. They were told that they had the consciense clause. Yes they knew all about the conscience cla-u.se. In this county, young Nonconformists had had to go to Church before they were allowed to bccome teachers in Church schools. He was not going to pay rates for teaching a creed he di(L not believe in he might have to pay in furniture, but; he would never pay in ,h. Only cr.e of their candidates6 was there that, evening. Where was Mr Treharne. He we,s in Glcmcrganshirei on business, and could not be thore. Where was Mr Daniel? Out canvassing ? Canvassing for the three. Were the-e three candidates who were work- ing on? for the other to be left alone by the Nonce iif erm; cf Carmarthen? How many of the Ncnccnformi ts of to-day had the grit of Jrmcs Bagn-.11, to stand up for the principle cf religious liberty, cOBi, what it may- Rev J. H. Weaitherall said that Liberals were, blamed for meddling in municipal affairs This Bill had been so framed that the Town Council must necessar ly have to. deal with matters political, and then they were blamed for interfering in municipal elections. The fctHtude of the Government, to the Noncon- formists was that of the cook to the duck, 11 Ducky, ducky, come and be killed (laughter). It ought to be plain to the ,-erva meanest intellects that in a Conservative Town Council which would have the admimstr*- tion of the Education Act, it was necessary that there should be Liberals to represent Liberal interests. Although the Carmarthen Liberal Association di d not concern itself with municipal matters, yet as they could not dwida their candidate into an educa- tionist, and a, Tcwn Councillor, he might be pardoned for referring to tiom. The Town Clerk could tell them that we inherit a. corrupt tradition since 1830, and unhappily the spirit was not, dead yet. He felt, it a shame and a reproach. that such things should be spoken of as a joke, and as if there? were no possibility that they could ever be otherwise. Because, ,ere was a majority which was, accustomed to act with notorious inefficiency, he hoped that they they would do their utmost, to raise the rfendard of municipal life. Municipalities could do many tilings which individuals could not do for tbem,seilves. An individual could not enforce the Sunday Closing Act. Why did not the Town: Council enforce it, and so remove what wa& undoubtedly a erring and & shameful scandal. Why did our Council change its mind at two successive meetings, ond prove itself to. be acting foolishly either at one or the other. We required a sHis- facb ry lane from somewhere opposite that chapel to Francis terra.c.e, and also the widening of Waundew. Possibly, they were waiting for a. fatal accident at Waundew before they did anything. He also thought they ought. to ensure that, estimates should not 1 e afterwards raised, so as to admit something which was not thought of at the time and they aJt-oo required the a,udit. of the Corporation accounts by a Government auditor- With regard to education, England was undoubtedly behind every other civilised country. The Government had during the la,st thirty years made some peddling attempts to improve things. They had found certain denominational schools in exis- tence, and they had patted them on the back, and said 11 Go ahead, and save us the t-roul *e," and they had given these schools grants. The grant, system had grown until it had surpassed even the wildest dreams of their promoters. Sir Joshua, Fitch had poin-ted out. that in 1894, there were 1061 "voluntary" schools carried on without, any subscription whatever. No wonder volun- tary was placed in. inverted commas. In, .L _1 674 case?, the subscriptions amounted to less than Is a year per child. Lord Hugh Cecil had admitted that the provision of a permanent majority of Church managers was necessary on account of Wales (kuigoter) The; Archdeacon of Carmarthen had argued that, the Bill would not make a.ny addition to the rates of Carmarthen. The cost of bringing the Church ischools up to the level of the Board sichools would be L536, and the Rcmani Catho-lic school £47. That would be covered he said by the Treasury grant of L575. We were, to ha-vet three more schools on t, to rates next, year, but it was to cost nothing. This assumed, of course, that the thrf— schools could in a single year be bought up to the! level of the, Board Schools. Thcce Churchmen' had (admitted that, they had bet n carrying on schools of inferior effi- ciency, and that they considered that the teaching of their- creeds was of more import- ance than education. Prebendary Brown said that, it was necessary that the trustees fchouild have a, majority, otherwise n, majority might be appcint?d who might hand the schools over to the, Education authority, and | the trustees did net, want to have their pro- perty confiscated. That was evidently what weighed with them more than educational efficiency. Churchmen now claim-ed that they had built these schools, whereas Non confor- mists had often contributed nobly, and if they had not done so nobly, they had done so to avoid a School Board rate. As regar- ded the teaching profession it came to this Churchmen were eligible for all posts, and ther were* reserve schools to which enlv Church teachers were admitted. Thus every Churchman had a, double chance. It was said by Principal Brown that, Nonconformists would be able to, get a school built for them- selves out of the public funds, whereas Chrirchmen and Roman Catholics1 had to do so cut cf their own funds, Dr M 9 I had, however, well pointed out thet this famous Clause 9 to provide a school for 30 children when required was surrounded with so many restrictions that- it. was an absurdity and could hardly ever be put in force. That would not be much loss, for it would only lead to the establishment of inferior micro- scopic schools expensive to, work—like the Roman Catholic school here. It was said that Nonconformists had their own doctrines taught in the E rrcl Schools. That, was a: specimen of the colossal ignorance of Church men. There were differences amongst, Non" i conformists, although they worked together politically. If the teaching of the Bible was Noncciifo; mist teaching, he had never heard a be- ._r admission that the doctrines of the Chi-Tch were uuscriptural (laughter).—The speaker concluded by referring to Principal Evans' Splendid qualifications for being a member of an education authority. Rev E. Owen (Wesleyan) said that the Wesley a,n Methodists had 440 voluntary r^hrch- They had, however, declared their intent ion of handing them over to the, public if a Christian unsectarian education were placed within the reach of every child in England and Wales. Prebendary Brown re- ferring to the fact, that only Churchmen were admitted to Church training colleges said that the Wesleyans did the- same. That is not true. By a resolution of the- Confer- ence this year, the Weslcyans had declared that they wÜ'u1d admit members of other denominations into their colleges if thofe were vacancies, and that when they do come they shall not sever their connection with the denomination to which they belong. j Rev A. FrHer Mills exhorted the meeting < to work for the return of the three candi- dates, and warned thei voters, not to be led away by drink and other inducements. Principal Evans said that his view of the Education Bill was the same as the curate's view of the bad egg he had had at the Bishop's breakfast, table. Some parts of it are quite good." The desire of the Govern- ment was to place the. Voluntary Schools in an impregnable position that this Bill would do for it could never be, repealed without the consent of the House of Lords. We had, no free Parliament so long as the House of Lords was supreme. At the last, School Board election, the Vicar of Carmarthen (now Bishop of St. Asaph) issued a manifesto which concluded with these words V I LEAVE THE WHOLE QUESTION WITH THESE WORDS. WE DESIRE NO FAVOUR FOR OUR VOLUN TARY SCHOOLS FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF WHIOH WE WOULD NOT TAKE ONE PENNY IF OFFERED Fl?OM THE RATES. That was what they said then. Now they would place the voluntary schools, on the rates.—Principal Evans concluded by stating tat he did not. ask the voters to return him alone, but in company with the other two Liberal candidates. A vote of thanks was awarded to the chairman, on the motion, of thei Rev. Pro- fessor Jones, seconded by the, Rev A. Fuller Mills.
Fair Play to the Nonconformist…
Fair Play to the Nonconformist Batepayers. PREBENDARY BROWN'S ADMISSIONS. At a, Public Meeting held at, the Guildhall Carmarthen, on the, 28th October, 1902, the Mayor (Mr E. Colby Evans) presiding, the following answers were given by the Rev. Prebendary C. G. Brown, Principal of the Carmarthen Training College, to questions proposed to him by the Rev. J'oseplh Harry, Old College School Question 1 Has the maintenance of the Model and the Priory Street Schools ever been on the rates of this town ? Answer No not as far as I know. Question 2 Will the, maintenance of these schools fall on the, rates if the Educa- tion Bill passes ? Answer Yes, as regards secular instruc- tion, but not as regards religious instruction which is given between 9 and 10. That will fall upon the voluntary subscribers in the future as in the past. The question is as to maintenance. There is something more than maintenance required in support of a school, and that is the payment for repairs and ex- tensions. Any repairs required at the Model School and the Priory Street School and all extensions that we are called upon by the public authority to make to the pre- mises must fall upon present subscribers, ami not on the rates. On the other hand, if the Board Schools require extensions and repairs the expense will fall on the rates. Question 3 When the Model and Priory Street Schools are supported by the rates of this town, will it be possible for Nonconfor- mista to become head teachers in them. Answer No. The Bill provides that. the new managers shall have the power of select- ing the, schoolmasters and the, schoolmistresses for too present volullit,airy schools, and they are given that power of selection in order to preserve the denominational character of the schools—which means in order to pro- vide that headmasters and headmistresses shall still be in Church schools, Churchmen and Churchwomen. Question 4 (a) How many managers will each of these Church schools, have under the Bill ? (b) How many will be elected by the Town Council, (c) How many by the trustees of the Schools. An wer (a) Six (b) Two (c) Four. Question 5 If the Education Bill becomes law, can 13, Nonconformist ratepayer's' son, educated ab the Model or Priory Street Schools be admitted to the Carmarthen Training College without relinquishing his Nonconi-ormist, views P Answer No the Carmarthen Training College is at present a Church College, and will have to preserve its! denominatio-nal character; but should the: Town Council of Carmarthen or the County Council of Car- marthen wish to build a hostel and put that hostel in connection with the Carmarthen Training College ,that-hos.tel will be unde- nominational. Question 6 When these schools are supported by the rates of the town will they continue to teach Church Dogmas. Answer Yes, certainly, between the hours of nine and it en. Question 7 Will these schools, under the Bill be private or public property? Answer They will be private property; but will! be lent for the use cf the country between the hours of ten and four. Question 8 What are the advantages of the B'll to Church schools. Answer The advantages to the Church schools are, that they will be financed on the same scale ais the present Board schools. In proposing a vote of thanks to Principal Brown, Mr Walter Spurrell said that the education given at Church schools was un- dcubtedly inferior to that given at Board schools he hoped, however, that, with the increased funds obtained from the rates, better instruction might be imparted in these 'schools, I
The Municipal Election and…
The Municipal Election and Education, THE CONTEST IN THE EASTERN WARD 'lo the Latin r ij' Jtv » a, mart.'ten Weekly Rc[jurUr DEAR SIR,—I should like to express in words my admiration of the. honourable and stiaig-lil-t'crward toae of the address issued by mxttcipai Evans. It was with gia-ufica- tion I he^rd he had, after much pressure, consented to stand as a candidate for the Eastern Ward; a.nd I believe that this feel- ing of esteem for such an ablel man possesses a large number of ratepayers of thei town. I observe that, Mr Evans is one of the- three cand dat,eis selected by the Liberal Associa- tiol,and he has honourably acceded to the resolutions of the Association, inasmuch as he has appealed to the electorate to accord their votes for the three gentlemen. He has clso fearlessly expressed his views with reference to the .Education Bill; and thus reali « in his own actions the inalienable right, of all m.en to their own convictions. Now I should like to know how it is that neither of the other two candidates have acted similarly, and how it is they have omitt: d to express their views on this all important question of education. Truly, there has never been a measure before tne country absorbing greater thought, and atten- tion, than the; vital issues involved in the Education Bill noit under consideration in Parliament. I believe thei passing of such a Bill will mark the' beginning of a new era ( in municipal legislation, and never was there < a more important moment, in thei existence, of Nonconformity than there exists at pre- sent. We. have to consider, whether we would, asi Nonconformists, preserve our reli- gious rights, and our regard for the true) principles of religious equality; or whether we would be content to forego all claim to justice and equality. The controlling elements of the, present Council are strongly Conservative and Church, and naturally with prejudices in favour of measures antagonistic to Noncon- formity. There are, at present, at least two Conservatives for every Liberal on the Council; and as Principal Evans gravely points out, Nonconformists have to decide wheth r they will return to the Council, men -who cannot owing to their religious pre- judices, recognise the true, principles of reli- gious equality—or these men representing their views and claims. The two parties must be more evenly ,a,lanced, in number before true justice can be relied upon there fore in justice to themselves Nonconformists have a, duty to perform, which is to record their votes in favour of the three Messrs Trteharne, and Daniel. It is sheer folly for anyone to say that politics should not be, introduced into muni- cipal elections, for as long as the interests and religious rights of Nonconformists. aDe: endangered by threatened proselytising, so long must the, political spirit prevail in municipal eleotioss. I trust that all Nonconformists will stand by their religiou-s .principles, and not, be de- ceived by the; soft spoken; and alluring argu- ments of the Church party. I have carefully studied the Education Bill, and can assert that, when any Church- man, stater, that the rights of Nonconformists are not being threatened, he is cither utter- ing such statements in ignoriance of the facts contained in the Bill, or he is wilfully misleading the electors. Yours truly, H. E. BLAGDON-RICHARDS. Castle House, Carmarthen.
. Archdeacon Evans and School…
Archdeacon Evans and School Finances of Carmarthen. The following appeared in the Western Mail on Tuesday :— SIR,-In a letter written on the 19t\ of September, the Von Archdeacon of Carmar- then stated that he had revised his calcula- tions and raised his standard of educational deficiency deeming such a course necessary M an essential condition to educational pro- gress But what do we fiud in the columns of the Western Mail this morning ? Mr Archdeacon Evans, with the utmost self- complacency, adopts the standard of the Carmarthen Town Board Schools as his standard of educational efficiency. It is a notorious fact that for past years the local support of the Carmarthen Board Schools has been the most impoverished and niggardly of all the board schools of the county. Some three years ago the charge of one school under the board was as low as 3d per child. The cost of maintenance, according to the latest returns, is L2 10s 2d per child. This low standard is not worthy I of the county town. Surely, the town can place itself on a par with Llanelly, with a maintenance charge of £3 Is 7d. The House of Commons last night laid down a rule that the County Council shall be the supreme arbiter with respect to the number and educational qualifications of teachers, and the county council will certainly decide to grant the boys and girls of Carmarthen an equality of opportunity in this respect with those of Llanelly and Amman Valley. One of the chief blessings of the Bill is the prospect of an effective check being placed on localities disposed to retard educational progress and to contract out of the communal obligations in relation to educa- tion. The House of Commons further decided that the county council shall fix salaries. The prospect in this respect is not in favour of Carmarthen. To make this clear and evident, I shall follow the steps of three of Mr Principal Brown's yoang disciples who left the Carmarthen Training College, say, last July. The three young men are excellent in many respects, good teachers, and well trained. We -ill suppose that one went to Barry, one to Llanelly, and another to Carmarthen Town. In the schools of these towns they becum e certificated assistants, with the probability of ever remaining so. They become citizens, householders, and fathers of families in their respective towns. At the end of ten years the teachers will be paid annual salaries as lollowe --f he Barry teacher £ 150, the Llanelly teacher £ 130, and th& Carmarthen Town teacher f 95. The total earnings for ten years of the three teachers respectively will be :-The Barry teacher £ 1,100, the Llanelly teacher £1,070, and the Carmarthen Tawn teacher JE860. A comparison of the women teachers' salaries would only serve to further emphasise the disparity. Under the circumstances, it would be more just to the children of Car- marthen Town if Mr Archdeacon Evans and Mr Principal Brown made a frank avowal of the need for substantial progress. My line of argument loads me to think that the cost of maintenance for the future will be nt-l least £2 17s 6d per child. This would entail. an additoinal sum of 7s 4d per child from the rates after all the grants have been received, including those under the Bill as I well. Seven shillings and fourpenoc per I child on 1,465 children is Y,537 3s 4d in excess of the archdeacon's calculations, and on a rateable value of £ 40,353 this sntn will be equivalent to nn additional rate of 3.25d in the R.-I am, &c., Buys NICHOLAS, Ex-president South Wales District Union of Teachers. Cwmavon, October 24th, 1902. I
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! Mr John Lloyd Morgan and…
Mr John Lloyd Morgan and the Education Bill. On Monday evening an amendment to the above Bill was moved in the House of Commons to give the power of appointing teachers to the Education authority. An important debate followed, in which Mr J. Lloyd Morgan made the following observa- tions An appeal (he said )had been made to the Prime Minister to accept the amendment which gave the appointment of teachers in Voluntary schools to the Local Authority, and not (as 'wa& provided for in the Bill) to the managers. That appeal had been sup- ported by -an honourable member who sat on the Government Benches, and it was made in terms which satisfie dhim (Mr Lloyd Morgan), that, it was the speech of a fair- minded Churchman, and he believed it ex- I pressed the isentimeaits and opinions of a large number of fair-minded Churchmen out- side the House who thought that the pro- visions of the Bill, BO far as they related to the management of the Voluntary schools, were not fair and reasonable. He hoped that it was not even then too late for the Grovernment to modify their decision because ;uch a course might avert. a long and bitter controversy which would begin and not end with the passing of the Bill. The amendment dealt with one of the gravest objections to the Bill, which sought to maintain the old syst m of imposing religious tests on teachers in about half the elementary schools of the country. Under the old system "it might be plausibly argued that there was some defence for it-very little in his opipion then-as it could be urged that the Voluntary sub- scribers did make some substantial contri- butions towards the schools. That was now done away with, for in future there would be no voluntary subscriptions, and the last vestige of a, defence for the imposition of religious tests would be swept away with the passing of the bill. Voluntary schools in the past had fallen behind in the race of educa- tional progress. No wonder that such should be the case if religious tests were applied to the teachers. These schools would remain behind if tests were to be maintained. A teacher with the best c-rtificates, with a clean record, and high character was not, the man who would submit to be cross-examined by a body of managers as to his religious belief. But it would not be so much as to his treligious belief as to his Church opinions. The managers would want to know whether he favoured the High Church or the Low Church party, whether his views were in accordance with the Evangelical school or the Catholic school. The best class of teacher would not, submit to that, kind of examina- tion. The appointment of teachers was the pivot on which the scheme turned. The atti- tude of the Government .was illogical. They put the appointment. of teachers in the hands of the denomination because they had con- trol of religious teaching, which took up a very small portion of the day's work. They gave the Local Authority, the so-called con- trol of popular education in the school, but withheld from them the appointment of the teachers, who spent five-sixths of their time in teaching secular subjects. The Govern- ment said that the supreme object they had in view in introducing the Bill was to estab- lish a National system of education. If tes^-id, the! Bill did not carry out that object and the attitude of the Government in refer- ence to the question then before the House, convinced him that Denominational ascend- ancy and not National Education was their supreme object. How could there be a really National system of education if in half the elementary schools of the country paid for by the taxpayer and ratepayer only teachers of one religious persuasion need apply, and all Nonconformists wete excluded. If the object, of this Bill was to make education efficiccit, the schools should be open to the best talent, in the teaching profession. The teachers were now to be paid entirely by the State, and, therefore, to all intents and pur- poses, they became state servants. The, public were entitled to have the best value for their money, and all teachers should b placed on, an equal footing, and fair compe- tition ought, not to be restricted. He (Mr Morgan) wished to further point out, thzt the bargain contained in the Bill was not. a just, and fair one. The Church gave the loan of the school buil ing, and it undertook to maintain them in the future in a proper state. For this the Church received the power to go on teaching children in these schools supported by the State a particular form of religion. They were given the power to appoint all the teachers, every farthing of wh se salaries would be paid by the State. Power was also given them to exclude teachers, however excellent, their moral character and however capable, as teachers, because their religious views were not in accord with those of the managers of the school, and, further, they had four out of six members on the Committee of Manage- six members on the Committee of Manage- 1 ment, of tho schools, XXEJ Wisned to BMKe me further comment on the matter, as the facts spoke for themselves, and he could only say this—he thoughnine out of every ten un- prejudiced men would say that that was not a fair or reasonab1,e b?r^,i' i. He appreciated the Church view in their dir to retain a Church atmosphere in their schools. Thi should he done at their own expense. T nt the clergyman of the parish, or his curtate, do it. In dense populations, and large towns and cities, the clergy might not have the time—there might ibe difficulties there. But thei most serious grievances which Noncon- formists had to submit to were in parishes where there was only one school, and tie re wiere hetwee-n six and seven thousand of those parishes. It could not be said that the cbrgy ,were overworked in the average rural district; he thought they might look after thei religious work in their schools I where they desired that 'a, church atmosphere should be maintained. In any event, he, ] strongly objected to the church atmosphere | being kept, up at the expanse of the public. It was opposed to all the principles which he | believed in, and for this reason he had 1 intervened in the debate to support the am^nlment. I The amendment was rejected. •1
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Llandilo Board of Guardians.
Llandilo Board of Guardians. The fortnightly meeting of this bo&rd was held on Saturday last at the Town Hall. The members present were Mr Henry Herbert (chairman), Mr T. Rees (vice), Mrs M. A. Jones, Col. Morris, Messrs W. Griffiths, John Jones, J. Perkins, J. L. Thomas, T. Thomas, J. Protheroe, D. Davies, D. W. Lewis, J. Williams, Joseph Harris. W. R. Thomas, T. Evans, L. Bowen, S. Evans, Roderick James Jacob Davies, D. Morris, J. Lloyd, Ivor Morris, L. N. Powell, D. Evans, Dan Davies. The Master reported that there were 35 inmates in the workhouse, oomipa-red with 39 corresponding period last year. 87 vagrants had visited the house against, 108 correspond- ing period last year. A STORM OVER A TEA CUP. Col. Morris wished to call the attention of the Board to the fact that only one member attended the meeting of the House Com- mittee. He did not know how to account for the bad attendance. He, would say it was caused by the action of the Board, as all the recommendations were treated in a way they did not exactly approve of. Sometimes they were treated in such an off-hand manner that after all the trouble they took to frame recommendations, it was a> waste of time. He hoped the next meeting would be better attended. There were remarks on the report of the House Committee that he thought the Guardians should know. He was not, satis- fied with some of the goods, because they were not. what, he considered up to sample.— Mr Ivor Morris (to Chairman): Now. sir. let usi hear tht", report. We are all on the qua vive.-Col. Morris Well. it is an important matter. The report was then read, and a few articles including itea and rice were com- plained of as being barely up to -slample.M,r W. Griffiths said he had tested the tea, and found no difference in it. He also could see no difference between the rice supplied and the sample*. The tea, was tried in boiling water by the master and matron of the house and by himself. If the leaves went to the bottom of the cup it, was considered a sign of good tea, and the leaves did go down, and they could see no difference in the tea.—Col. Morris It. is all very well for Mr Griffiths to criticise my decision as. the only one who attended.—Mr D. Evans: That is the: evil of i,t.-Col. Morris replied that if others had been present, he would have gone by the ma- jority. In making purchases Mr Griffiths in his own business went by sample. He. did not make bread of the flour he bought to test it.—Mrs M. A. Jones did not think the samples could be relied on. They could not be sure of them. They were packed when they got, them, bult there was no stamp on them.—Mr D. Evans Are they sealed ?— The reply was in the negative.—Col. Morris said the given, to him were what had been given to the master when the tenders were accepted.—Clerk They were handed to the master. I am sure they are not tampered with.—Mrs Jones said she did not mean to say anyone touched them. If they were going to go' by sample the one that supplied should also retain a sample.—Mr Ivor Morris held that what they wanted to be satisfied with was that the stuff vas good If as Mr Griffiths says the tea was examined and found to be good, and that there was nothing to complain of, it did not matter whether it was up to sample or not. as long as they got value for their money. That, was all that they wanted. It did not matter whether the stuff was as bright, as yellow, or as ijrreen—Chairman It ought to be as good as the sample.—Col. Morris If Mr Morris's sytem is carried out we open the floodgates of corruption.—Mr Ivor Morris retorted by saying that it was to prevent their bein^ i opened that they put the Col. on the com- mittee (Order, order).Col. Morris said he was still of opinion, in spite of Mr Griffiths criticism, that the tea. supplied was not up to the sample. They could judge by thie colour, the crispness, and size of the leaf.— The Chairman thought they ought to send the )ady guardian to test.—Col. Morris said that they ought to rule Mr Griffiths out of order for criticiing his action. They were dealing irregularly, and he strongly objected -Mr D. Evans said he would like to ask Col. Morris where he had learned to become a tea-taster. He knew nothing about the goods sent in, and he expressed an opinion, The result would be that if they took notice of] Col. Morris's remarks, they would get no one at all to tender. And if they did notice them they should -t-h-e thing through. It was all very well to make, remarks, but they should see if the matter was right or wrong. It was not right to have those remarks made continually about the goods. It required an expert to tastei it, and he should like to know what Col. Morris's experience wns.— Col. Morris replied that he had no objection. Let them have a meeting. He was quite prepared to abide by the decision.—Mr Powell: I am sorry I was not there, and I beg to move a, miqeting of the House Com- mittee be called to investigate the matter.— Mr T. Rees seconded.—Agreed.—Mr Evans said that with regard to the remarks of Mrs Jones, a good deal would defend upon tne way in which the sample was kept. ACCOUSTICS OF THE TOWN HALL, Cel. Morris, Mr Ivor Morris, and other members complained of the accoustics of the Town Hall, and wanted to know if any re- monstrance bsi been made to the County Council.—Mr Ivor Morris thought that a complaint from 1'(Iln as a public body would carry more weight; than from a, private indi- vidual.—Mr D. W. Lewis I am very pleased to hear the Board is getting a little more musical.—The Clerk said the committee of the Literary Institute would be glad to see. them back again a.t the Public Hall, for which they only paid 3s a. sitting, and he told tha.t more than that would be required for the Town Hall.—Col. Morris: They are going to charge four or five shillings. He gave" notice to bring the matter forward at the next. meeting. SANITARY AUTHORITY. Mr D. Daviei in th? chair. THE LOUGHOR WATER SUPPLY Referring to the Lough or Water Supply, the Clerk said ihe had written to the different owners, and they all wished to be supplied with a plan showing the proposed route or the line of pipes before they came to any de- cision. He (th? Clerk) had asked Mr Her- j bert to prepare such plans. Mr DuBwon was, perhaps, one of the largest owneis through whose land the Loughor flowed, and he wj-ote that it was of peculiar importance to Glynhir estate, and he said he should have i to object to any .scheme by which the .<U for the estate would be diminished, until be had obtained expert evidence, rnd he was end^avourng to get it with as little delay as ible. to far- -T'ie Clerk said th:e mers would be scarcely appreciable, as it; was a four-inch pipe supply.—Mr Herbert said that, he had had an interview with -Air, T)nB''is;son. and as far as the: route was con- cerned, he would offer no objection.—Rela- tive to Cwmnedol. Mr Dudlev Drummond, agent to E&rl Cawdor, wrote that lie +rust.^d that I hey would shortly arrange with tlie Local Government Board, as for obvious reasons they could not keep the offer of a supply open indefinitely.-Col Morris said that they were told they were to have a four inch pipe, whereas they asked for three hun- dred thousand gallons a day.—The Clerk said that in the interview they had with Mr Morgan Davies. the expert adviser for Earl Cawdor, he said that a. fcur-inch pipe would give 320,000 gallons a day.—Mr Herbert You are quite safe with a four inch pipe.— Col. Morris We, have nothing in writing. I don't feel safe at all.—Mr Herbert. You will get, more than 320,000 in my opinion. WANTED BLOCK PLANS. Col. Morris brought up the report. of the Plans Committee. Reference was made to the 120 houses to be built by the Gellycei- drim Colliery Co., and the plans were ad- journed until the Committee had met on tllt site.—Mr Ivor Morris complained that block plaais were; not supplied by owners of pro- perty on which building went on.—The Clerk said he had written to Mr Bishop, relative to Ammanford, and his reply was that plans I were supplied as the house-, were built.—Tfoe Chairman did not see what, they could do.— Mr Ivor Morris objecetd to the course that was being pursued towards the Gellyceidrim Co., whilst they allowed Lord Dynevor to put a bouse here and there. They were driving a coach and six through their bye-laws.—Mil Evan Jones said that by the bye-laws the block plans should be supplied.—Mr Ivor Morris complained that though the owners were drawing money out of their property, yet they were allowed to do jolly well just as they liked.—Mr Griffiths also urged thastJ the roads should be formed before they allowed any buildings on it.—Mr Ivor Morris illustrated by an example from Ammanford where houses had been built opposite run- ning water, and that they could not get the 36ft roadway unless it was covered over. Who was going to cover it over as both Lord Dynevor and the owners objected doing it. —Col. Morris said that it had been parsed at that council that it should be done.—On the motion of Mr Ivor Morris, seconded by Mr W. Griffiths, it was decided to write to all the owners of building sites asking them courteously to suuply block plans. A BAD STATE OF THINGS. The Surveyor's report was a lengthy one and showed the existence of a sorry state of things here and there all over the locality. Three cottages were referred to as quite un- fit for human habitation. Another. Parkyr- ynfach. had long since been reported as un- fit, but still there it was. In two others, there, was barbaroois overcrowding. The Ammanford slaughter houses were in a. scan- dalous condition, whilst Mr W. Simons had taken no steps to make his property at Llan- sawel habitable.—Mr L. N. Powell com- plained that things were being! left undone. —Mr Ivor Morris said that Mr Powell had stolen his thunder. Someone; was to blame. He wanted. to know who was responsible for such a state of affairs. They passed things. which were then pigeon-holed. They might as well have saved their breath to cool their porridge.—Mr Evan Jones, surveyor, said that with regard to .some of the matters re- ferred to. nothing was done in consequence of the death of the late Medical Officer.- The Clerk said that with regard to Parkyr- ynfach he. had given notice, but the Council had passed no resolution that proceedings should be taken.—Mr Morris said that the Chairman or one of the officials, was to blamiej for not seeing to it. He could not see what they wanted a resolution when they adopted the Surveyor's report.—The Clerk repeated that they must pas- a resolution before action could be taken.—Mr* Powell was of opinion that so many points arose in the. reporf that they should take it paragraph by paragraph. —It was agreed proceedings should be taken —The Medical Officer's report was then read. i Reference" was made to a good deal that had been dealt with in the Surveyor's report, There had been a case of typhoid at Oapel Henre. It arose from a polluted well which received the drainage o fa farmyard and pig- stye. There was an outbreak of scarlet fever, at Cwm Ivor.—Mr Ivor Morris moved that the slaughter-houses be closed.—Col. Morris said their notices were simply laughed at. —Acting on the Clerk's advice, Mr Morris consented to give them one, month's notice. -Mr Morris proposed, and Mr Jacob Davies seconded that proceedings be taken against Mr Simon.-The' Clerk &aid he had heard tha-t the house of Mr Simons was now in order.— Mr Morris: We must be advised by our officcr. — Mr Evan Jones said the house was quite unfit for habitation.—The Chairman wanted to give Mr Simon another month.- Air Powell said he had defended Mr Simons once, but it would be childish to give him notice again.—Mr Morris said that if the Clerk saw the thing was being done, he needi not take proceedings.—On the motion of Mr Morris, seconded by Col. Morris, it was agreed that a. plan and specification of a new sewer at Ammanford should be prepared.
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LLAXDOYEH. Y. THE Llandovery Town Council, at their meeting on Thursday of last iveek considered tenders for the Ooiporations tolls for the ensuing year. Prices were quoted by Mr E. J. Evans, Bear Inn, and Mrs S. Davies, widow of the late lessee. The tolls were let to the | former at £ 21 15s, exclusive of the weighing njachine, the letting of which was deferr-'d to the 9th of November.