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Carmarthenshire Education Committee. The monthly meeting of the Carmarthen- shire Education Committee was held at the County Offices Carmarthen, on Thursday the 13th in.t. Mr John Lloyd, Penyibank (the chairman of the Committee) presided. There were also present: Sir John Williams, Bt., The Plllais, iLiIiauiatephaa; Mrs Lloyd, Llanelly Rev J. Å Bees, Pemlbrey; Rev R. H. Jones, Lianigeindeirne Mr J. Llew Thomas, Hendy; HOT T. ohns, ap3 Als Mr H. JouK'S-Dianrs, GSyneiddan; Rev Professor D. E. Jones, Carmarthen; Mr J. R. James, Llandovery; Mr Dd. Evanis, Manordaf; Col. Morris, Am- ananford; Rev B. Humphreys, Felinfoel; Mr W. N. Jones, Tirydail; Mr J. Johns, Parc- eithin Rev W. Davies, Llandilo; Mr John Lewis, Meircs H.alt; Mr T. Barrett, Glyn- ,mil is Mr D. Davies, Myddfai; Mr H. Jones- Thomas, Ponrhos; and Mr Ben. Evans, Pencader. MANAGERS AND THE CHECKING OF REGISTERS. The Clerk said that the Board of Education complained that the managers did not check the registers. They called attention to this in the case of Coniwil Elvet .and in the case of Lllanrdilio School. Mr J. Johns moved that the Clerk (Mr J. W. Nicholas) should write to the various clerks to the managers and ask them to see to this. The locail clerks ought to see that this was done. Mr D. Evans: It is the duty of the clerks to do it. They delegate it to the managers, 'and they ought to see that it was done. Mr H. J. Thomas said that there, was a lelttter some time ago from the Board of Education direating attention to this, and stating that they expected the, mlanagers to check the registers as well. The Clerk said that aU the clerks to the managers had had copies of the circular as -tvell. If this complaint were made again next year, the grant would be lost. Mr H. J. Thomias said that from what he had seen, it was a matter which required serious considerattion,. The Clerk said that there was a similar complaint for Drefach; a.nd the explanation w,as that illness was the cause of the omissiolll. THE VACANCY AT TRELECH. The Board of Education wrote with regard to the eliaim for grant for Trelech-ar-Bettws School. They pointed out that from the 29th May, 1907 to the 16th Setpemlber 1907, this school was without a properly qualified head teacher; and H.M. Inspector considered that there had lbeeru no special circumstances to justify this great deay in filling the vacancy. ) The Clerk said that he had sent the Board an explanation; Mr Brewer left on the 29th May; between that time and the arrival of the new teacher there were only three months excluding the holidays. The three months expired on the 29th August. From the 9th August until the 16th September, the school was closed for holidays. When the school opened on the 16th September, Mr G. Llewelyn,, the new head teacher, took charge. There had, therefore, been no interregnum except siuch as the Code allowed. WORK FOR THE MANAGERS. A ooimplai nt was also received that the registers had not 'been tested at the Copper Woite School, Burry Port. The Chairman: The managers complain that they have nothing to, do. There is some- thing for them to do, and they won't do. it. Rev T. Johns: I think the managers ought to see to the register's. BORDER SCHOOLS. The Clerk said that he had written to the Cardiganshire Authority asking them not to press the question of the loan for Llan- dyssul school. The Cardiganshire authority now wroite that they would not payees this question, and they agreed to the adjustment on all oitheir points. UNSUITABLE SCHOOL. Mr D. C. Edwards, Clerk to the Llanelly Rural Sanitary Authority, wrote caliling the attention of the Committee to certain defects in Llangenmeeh school.—The Architect (Mr M organ) will attend to this matter. Mr Edwards also enclosed a report on the state of Hendy Non-provided School. The Inspector who drew up the report, referred to several defects, and wound up by saying, "In their present condition), the premises are unfit for educational "purposes." It was decided to give the manage s notice that unless this school were put in. a satis- factory condition within threp months, the Committee would cease to maintain it. THE PROPOSED NEW SCHOOL AT BiLAElNAU. The Parish Council of Llandetbie sent a resollution protesting against the establish- ment of a new school at Blaenau road, as there were already schools at Llandeb'e, Penygroes, and Saron. Col. Morris said that there was a deputa- tion in waiting. They wished to be heard against the proposal. Rev T. Johns: As long as they are here, I prtopose that they be heard. Col. Morris: I propose that, they be heard. The Chairman If you appoinft a com- mittee to enquire into this, they will be heard over again by that committee. The deputation—which consisted of Mr D. Davies, Llaindelbie, and Mr Lewis Davies, Penygro,e-s-iNias then admitted. Mr D. Davies said that the proposed school was not required. It would not relieve the two school at Saron .and Penygroes; but the school which was being built at Owmgwiili would relieve them. All he asked them to do was to appoint a committee to see whether this schú101 would be needed. Mr Letwis Davies said that the distance L J, from this school to any of the three existing schools would only be a mile and a half. It would <not relieve either LLandehie or Saroin, ,a,nd it would be a very heavy burden on the rates, which were now lis 6d in the C. Mr W. N. Jones asked if the rates of Llarn- debie parish were lis 6d. 'M-r Levi Davies said that they were, in- eluding the water. They had to pay poor rates aft 3s in the £ twice a year; and the Water rate wias about 58 in thejE. Mr W. N. Jones: I should like to have that quite dear. It is a very extraordiinary state- ment to make, to say that the, rates are lls 6d in the £ The Chairman thanked the deputation, whioh then withdrew. Mr W. N. Jones said that he, was opposed to the opposition to this school. This school had ibe,en, pi-opofsed iill, the days of the School Board. His Majesty's Inspector came down aJud approved of the site. They were told that no children would be taken from other schools. They were misled. They had ap- pointed an independent m,ail-the clerk to the Parish Council—to take a census. He made out that that they should have a school for so many. It was an excellent centre, one of the hest in the district, midway between three schools. W hoever said that this school would root talke children from other schools wfas not telling what its right. One of the reasons .giv>n against rthe school was the heravy water rate at Ammaintford. If a mistake hlad been made in that respect, it did not do <away with the duty of the Education Com- mittee to give proper education to the dils- trict. He proposed that they go on with the school. When one of the gentlemen said that the rates were lis 6d in the £ he was nowhere near the mark. Col. Morris said that this water supply had been carried out by the special wish of the County Council. The waiter rate was only Is to begin with, fbciaulse they did not want to introduce the burden, they did not want to clap (it on the back of the people. It would crush them on the spot. When the water- rate was levied properly, it would be 5s 6d in the jE. It was not levied on. the whole parish but only on the water district. He ven- tured to say that the site was not a suitable one for the locality. Nobody believed in it except Mr W. N. Jones; it was one, of his pet schemes, and hie would smppoirt it unitiil it was carried out or buried. Mr W. N. Jones said that they had been compelled to go in for a water scheme, but not for such an. extravagant scheme as this. The following committee was appointed to enquire iiinto the matter: The Vace-Chairman. (Mr D. Evains), Mr D. Davies, and Mr J. R. Jiames. SCHOOLS AND NURSERIES. Col. Morris—rteferring to alleged lack of ] accommodation in some schools—said that it < mias caused by taking young children. In 1 some schools they took in little children only three years of age. They were nurseries not ] schoolls. They ought to have a rule that j children under five, should mot be admitted, j Mr J. Johns: I move that we write to the clerks of the groups to that, effect. Mr J. It. James said that children between three and five earned a grant. It was thote under three who did not earn a grant. Mr H. J. Davies said that in some cases they had made a rule that children under four should not be admitted. A BAN ON MARRIAGE. A resolution was received from the Flint- shire County Council with reference to the marriage of teachers. This was to the effect that no 'married women should be appointed a teacher, and that the marriage of a female teacher should be taken as equivalent to three months notice in the case oif a head teacher and one month's notiice in the case of an assistant. Col. Morris: What about these pupil teachers or ,assistant teachers who are given three months' for their honeymoon. The Clerk: It is onay a cirouar to that effect; they have three months, and they can come back. LLANDOVERY SCHOOL. The Committee which, had been appointed to find a site for the proposed new school at Llandovery reported that they had con- sidered the offer of the Guardians, of Mr Gwyn HolMord, and of Mr D. T. M. Joines. They decided to accept, the offer of the last- named to sell an, acre of the Brewery Fliold for £ 225. This was subject to the proviso on the part of the Committee that the com- pe,nsaitioaii to the tenant should not exceed another £20. They also agreed to. divert the path. They recommended that a school be buiilt to accommodate 300. Mr J. R. James said that they were within 30 places of 300 a.lrady. What they ought to have was a school to accommodate 400. He, hoped that in the future the managers of the other school would see the error of their ways and wouild convert their school illlto an infant department. It was a ridicu- lous thing that a place with a population of 1,800 should be saddled with two schools. Mr W. N. Jones: If you suggest more accommodation now is the time. Mr J. R. James: No; but I think the plain should be such, that it could be easily ex- tended when the occasion arises. SCHOOL MANAGERS. No appointment was made in the place, of the late Mr John Bowen, Lan, LLandefeilog, The matter was adjourned for suggestions from the locality. The Rev Edward Davies w,as appointed a manager for the Llandysul district in. the place of ivir Roderick -derick, Llettyglyd. DRAWiING EXHIBITION. Mrs Lloyd said that she was sorry Mrs G'wyn,ne-Hughes wias jiot present. It was she who had been most energetic in, pro- moting an art exhibition from the various schools of the county to take place at the Carmarthen School of Art. The most meri- torious would be sent to the International Exhibition. Mrs Gwynne Hughes and she would pay postage and carriage and all the exhibition expenses; but the, cost of the exhi- bition itself would he about £ 10.—It was decided to allow the amount required for the exhibition. CERTIFICATES FOR GOOD ATTEND- ANCES. The question of awarding certificates for good attendance cropped up during the dis- cussion of the last mentioned item. It was suggested that the certificates be designed by the art pupils for competition. Mr J. Johns said that it would be unfair to the county children. It was an unfair competition. Nothing was done in the matter. SECONDARY SCHOOLS. Mr Dd. Evans, as one of the delegates who had waited on iMr McKenna, gave his report. He, said that no doubt they had seen in the papers an account of the whole thing. They bad agreed to accept the, Englislj conditions with the English money. It would be a substantial increase in the grant towards the secondary school. He did not think it would be less than £1,000 for Carmarthen- shire. Rev T. Johns: But do we lose in, any way. Mr Dd. Evans: I do not think we lose anything. Professor Jones: I do not think w lose any- thing. Mr J. Johns: We have nothing to lose. Professor Jones said that they had to give 25 free places; but they gave more in this county. APPOINTMENT. The most important appointment to be made was that of a certificated headmaster for Felinfoel School at a salary of L170 a year. There were 82 applicants. It was decided to reduce the number to ten. The following came out highest in the first ballot :•— T. Davies, Newport, Mom, 11; John Cyrus Evans, Islington,, London, 10; D. Jones, Stamford Hill, London, 9; T. H. Harries, Bryn, LLanetlly, 13; Dd. Jones, Nantgaredig Council School, Carmarthen., 9; James W. Lewis, Llanddarog, 13; W. J. Price, Saron Council School, Llaindebie, 15; Phillip W. Rees, Broadewell, Llanelly, 14; Wr. Thomas, Llansawel, 11; John Ertassmuis, Trimsaran,, 8; W. D. Lewiiis, Bantkffoosfelen, 8; and T. Nicholls, Velindre, Henllan, 8. The three last named tied for the tenth place. A second ballot was then, taken, when Erasmus got 8 votes, Lewis 5, and Nicholls 6. Erasmus, therefore, went into t,he third ballot. 0111 the thi.rd ballot, J.W. Lewis, L-lan- ddarog, and W. J. Price, Llandeibie, each got 14 voites; W. P. Rees, Lliancildy, and W. Thomas, Lalnsawel, each got 13 votes; T. Davies, Newort, and J-ohnl Cyrus Evans, 12 each. The other four who, either got 10 or 11 each were out. 1:1 On the, fourth ballot, W. J. Price, Llan- debie, W. P. Rees, Llanelly, and W. Thomas Lkunisawel, got 11 votes each. The other three got each aiine aimd were out. On the fifth ballot, W. J. Price got 19 vtes; W. Thomas, 12; and W. P. Rees, 9 votes. The last was out. In the six and final ballot, Price got 13 votes, and Thomas, 7. !Mr Price was there- fore (appointed. THE DEADLOCK AT BROOKE. There were three applicants for the post of uncertificated heaidmiafcree at Brooke at a salary of L60 a year. The Clerk said that the managers did not recommend any of them. They considered 11 the applicants were too young aiitd with- out sufficient experience to take sole charge. They hoped that the Committee would with- draw their opposition to Mr Rcnf rey. Mr Benl Evans moved that they appoint Miss E. A. Harries, of Pembroke. Mr J. Johns proposed that they withdraw their opposition to Mr Renfrey. The Clerk: You cannot appoint anyone. You can say you insist on a teacher of the class you recommend being appointed. Mr J. Johns: I move that we appoint Mr Renfrey. The Chairman: You have no right to do that. Mr J. Johns: We are placing ourselves in a very failse position by tramping on a poor man's chianacter. It will do more injury to, the cause of temperance tharn anything else. I hope iMr Evians will withdraw his opposition It was decided to refer the matter back to the managers.

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