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THE QUESTION OF MIXED SCHOOLS.

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THE QUESTION OF MIXED SCHOOLS. HIGHER GRADE SCHOOL REJECTED. A special meeting of the Pontypridd Scheol Board was held at the Board Room, Gelli- wastad Grove, on Friday, Mr James Richards (chairman), presiding. The members present were. Rev. F. Me Manus, Rev. U Ll. Davies, Rev J. R. Jones, Messrs W. M. Jones, W. Jones Powell, and J. W. John, with the clerk Mr D. M. Jones. Mr W. M. Jones, following uphismotion, pitiJflM- the resolution passed on the 13th Dwf&kBer with regard to the re-arrangement and re-organisation of the Lan Wood and Mill St. School, be recinded. In doing ao Mr Jones said: -At last I rise to move the motion over my name on the agenda, "That the resolution parsed by this Board on the 13th day of De- oeiabeT, 1898, with reference to the rearrange- ment and re-organisation of the Lan Wood and Mill Street Schools be recinded." It will be the Board's recollection that a majority of it decided to use the Lan Wood Schools for the three departments of Boys, Girls, and Infanta, and moreover, the Board resoived "that plans be prepared for converting MiLi Street Girls' and Infants' Departments into a. Deaf and Dumb Department sad Mixed Sefccoi. whioh shail provide accommodation for the Hopkinstown children who attend the pre- sent Mill Street Schools, and that in each Msed Department a special class for Standard VU. children be formed in accordance with the recommendation of the Head Teacher of the Central Classes, which class shall be taught by a special Assistant Teacher, who will be subordinate to the Head Teacher of the Mixed ^Department." The consideration of these piacs for altering Mill Street Schools has pre- cipitated the recurrence of discussion upon these important matters, for had it not been for these plans, I should probably have been satisfied to wait until the next winter was over before calling your attention again to them. The attendance of the scholars would ltavs so decreased by them as to have made it -inn--cessary ff i me to c. your attention to the dire effects upon the average attendance of tbe pets' nt arrangement*. I tun still firmly convinced that the Board hae not adopted that C l'rae which is best conducive to the attend- of the children affected, neither has it ft derated, in my opinion, the best course for the education of the children of the parish in the C. b and 7th Standhrds. I beg to present to yc'jr notice four reasons (among others) why these arrangements ought to be altered. First, t'at the accommodation provided for in Lan Wood Schools is much too large for the ntsmber of children that can reasonably be expected to ettend them. Some of you will exclaim, "Bat Lan Wood Schools are at present full, and more than full." So we would expect-them to be, end they ought to be according to the report prepared by our Clerk lat year, if we include those who even according to present CJT&ogements have to go elsewhere. That re- [ftrt showed that there ought tD be 314 boys in Lon Wood in average at 80S at pre- sent constituted, but the attendance sheet for September 30th last only shows 298 boys. The cierk anticipated last year having an average attendance at Lan Wood of 317 girls. The actual number on 30th September waa 320. The r»n*i £ ipated average attendanoe of Infanta was 255. Last September showed only 210 infants- Bat as already intimated, the boys and girls departments are not filled with children win can reasonably be expected to attend them at all seasons of the year. I 'should have been glad if they had been. But at present, they arA. most of them, children from Hopkinstown and. Pwilgwaun. During the spring and sum- nyrr months I have no doubt that those children fcave managed very well upon the whole to attend at Lan Wood. Circumstances have favoured a good attendance, and this favourable attendance is likely to lead some of us astray ai to the future prospects of this school. The mctelty of a new school with its new inner and outer surroundings, and the very dry and fa- vourable season which we have had, have no doubt contributed to keep up so far a satis- factory attendance. But when the cold, chilly --tbo-,r.,wmes on with its rain and frost, ita biting winds and snow, how can young children be expected to attend school regularly with the great distances they have to get to the school. Thq average attendance is low enough in Wile-i as it is, as we well know, without our going to add to the difficulties of attendance by arranging long distances for young children to attend school. When I introduced this matter before, I clearly showed that, according to the report of our clerk already referred to, that the number of available boys and girls for Lan Wood Schools waa an average of 285 child- ten, including the 7th Standard, for an accom- modation provided of 640 children. According to present arrangements, Standard VII. child- ren axe to attend at Mill Street. Take these out, and we have an average attendance of 271 children for an accommodation of 640. Clearly one of the departments in Lan Wood, with aocozamodation for 320, is sufficient for 271 children, including, as it does, the 6th Standard. If this Standard is further taken away, as I suggest, then we shall only have an average at- tendance of 243 boys and girls all told. I have shewn that according to present arrangements, the number of children who can fairly be Em- pected to these schools is 271 boys and girls (in- cluding 6th Standard), and 210 infants in aver- age attendance, or a total of 481 children in all, whereas thera is accommodation provided for 1,125 children. It is absurd on the face of it that 914,000 of the ratepayers' money is to be used to supply buildings for 481 children. It amounts to about three times the usual rare per chili for providing accommodation. My second reason for rescinding what has been re- solved La. that in consequence of scarcity cf children:, or, rother, the over-accommodation o? Lan Wood Schools for ordinary departments, that they would be best utilised y converting the Girls' Departments into a Mixed School, and the Boys' Department into a Centre School for teaching Standards VI. and VII. of the whole parish, the same to form a nucleus for a Higher Grade Schoo', etc. Inasmuch as the accommodation provided at Lan Wood by the previous Board has been considerably too large —«s I have already t-Itowu-and as a consider- ably larger expenditure has been incurred there than was necessary (a fact which has been made very patent to the public the last few weekri), we must make the best possible use we can of tfeese premises. The -whole of the parish being sufferers owing to our financial difficultie"- fwnrdal difficulties arising partly in consequence of these pnomiøes-l think it would be well and just if the wbbte ef the parish benefitted by these schools. This would best be done by t providing for the education of the 6th and 7th Standards of the whole of the parish in one of the departments at Lan Wood. It is stated in the report submitted by our clerk that the education of Standards VI. and VII. is un- doubtedly neglected. If Standard VI., as well as Standard VII., is neglected as stated, why allow it any more than Standard VU. to re- main neglected. The number of children in Standard VI. being so many more than in Standard VII. the crime is greater. It is well- known that all above Standard V. are not posted forward and persevered with as are those below; yet we know that the up standards are those which tell most in the education and equipment- of the child for its life's struggle. In the whole of the parish there were according to the cierk's report already referred to, a total of 247 children in the 6tb and 7th Standards. These manifestly would find mo central accommodation in the present department in Lan Wood School, which has an accommodation for 320 scholars. The proximity of this school to the County School would cre- ate aspirations in the centre children which would have beneficial effects upon them, and bring about a closer relationship between Pri- mary and Secondary Schools. In the near future this relationship will become closer aa regards their management. It is already prac- tioally agreed amongst educationist* that the School Boards of the country shall have one third of the representation upon the School Management in the proposed Secondary Edu- cation Act. The Government grants earned would be about 5s per head more when taught in tbe collective way suggested than when taught as at present. My third reason for ask- ing you to rescind your previous resolutions re- ferred to is, that the children of not orly Hop- kinstown should be educated at Mill street as proposed, but that the Rwllgwaun children also should not be Mlced to pass Mill street to Lan Wood, but be educated in Mill street, the Girls' and Infants' departments there to be am- verted into a Mixed School. The time is com- ing, and that very soon, when Hopkinstown must have a school of its own for its bigger boys and girls, established in Hopkins town on the land already bought for the purpose. We may be wise after events, but it is now plain enough that if a few of the thousands of pounds overspent in Lan Wood had been spent in Hop- kinstown to provide an adult school there, that t would have been a wiser expenditure than that already made. At present we lose money in Hopkinstown in consequence of Standard I. being kept there in connection with the Infant Department. We lose probably 58 3d per head on the boys, and about 3s 9d per head on the girls. For the present I suppose, as Mill street School is on our hands, it is probably the gener- al feeling of this Board that Hopkinstown children shall go there. For my own part, I would build an adult school almost immediately in Hopkinstown. In any case Pwilgwaun children should go to Mill street, what earthly reason there is for taking these children put Mill street Schools and make them walk an additional 733 yards in order to get to Lan Wood in all weathers I know not. It is be- ycnd my comprehension. It ia authoritatively recognised that when children have to walk these distances to school that it has a serious effect upon the attendance, and yet we call upon them to do what we know full nwH is damaging to the average attendance, which is tantamount to saying that we considerably lessen our financial receipts. I make the total children in Pwllgwaun and Hopkinstown to be about 347. The acoommodatioa in Mill street GirW and Infants' Departments, converted into a Mixed School, would be about 400. Or ff it is decided to build immediately in Hopkins- town—one department-Mill Street Schools could be converted into a Mixed School. The Deaf and Dumb in the one case could be edu- cated in the iron building associated with Mill street, and in the other case, in one of the de- partments. It is intended though that early they shall be collectively educated by several Boards joining. My fourth reason for asking for the rescinding is that the resolution to cen- tralise Standard Vil. only is not in accordance with the recommendation of the Head Teachers of the Pupil Teachers' Centre, as that resolu- tions states. The Centre master distinctly re- commends in his report that Standards VI. and VII. be centralised, and dilated much on the benefits and advantages of a good Higher Grade School. I before attempted to show the vast importance of giving our children the facilities for obtaining Higher Grade Educa- twn-the distinctive places of Higher Grade and Intermediate education—that most dis- tricts of any importance had already provided Higher Grade facilities, the Rbondda and Car- diff being noted in particular, and the method of conducting Higher Grade Centres, etc. It would appear to be the feeling of tue majority 0' the members of this Board that Higher Grade Classes are desirable, and that provision should be made for the same, but-the ever- lasting but comes in—and creates some small obstacles and puts them in the way of progress in this matter. Little or small ob- stacles are allowed to defeat the accomplish- ment of a great end. Either it will upset the present arrangement of head-teacher or teach- ers, or alter the existing arrangement of one cr more schools, or a mixed school is objected to, or a few hundreds of pounds cannot be spared especially at the present time to effect slight alterations and additions, or the distance is too great for distant children to come to one cen- tre te be taught, although the 7th Standard children have already been agreed as not being too great a distance. All these, and other petty excuses—for I call them nothing else, when compared with the great character of the work proposed, I say all these petty excuses, which most other respectable School Boards have over- come, are allowed to stay the progress of this nmcb needed educational reform in Pontypridd. Just a word on the alterations required and cost. The cost of Mill street alterations has already been stated as £ 450. This morning Mr Evans, the Board's architect, has favoured me with a communication to the effect that there are two ways in which the alterations I suggest could be carried out at Lan Wood, nei- suggest could be carried out at Lan Wood, nei- ther of which would necessitated new w.c.'s. The cost of one would not exceed £ 45, and the other, the best arrangement, about £ 80. Both arrangements will provide separate entrances for boys and girls, and the present boys' school and the present girls' school-in both cases it is an alteration of boundary walls and construction of new doors. Even if it does cost little more than has been stated by Mr Evans, I submit that these vast premises at Lan Wood should be fully and completely used,and that to the best educational advantage of the whole parish. Finally, I submit that the rea- sons I have advanced against the arrangements made call loudly for the rescinding of the re- solutions bearing on the Lan Wood and Mill street Schools. If it should be your pleasure l to da se, which I taopa it will, then other ar- rangements can be substituted for them, which would include or exclude any or all of the pro- pcsala which I have ventured once more to bring to your notice.. For some time no seconder was found, until Mr J. W. John filled the breach, as he said, for the sake of a discussion, The Chairman said Mr Jones's object was to give a better education to the neighbourhood at I'" .ass expense, but the Board had gone to great expense in building the Lan Wood School, and it was scarcely fair to that school to make the alterations suggested by Mr Jones. They had not been tried long enough, but were at pre- sent fairly full, and if another school was budt at Hopkinstown and the Mill street school uti- lised, that would meet the present require- ments of Pontypridd parish. He perfectly .ore^'i with Mr Jones that it was time they should have a seventh standard class and appoint a master to teach it, but he would re- f the alt«ations suggested by Mr Jones to the armost.lwid he had mlby reasons for his ob- jections. One was against mixed schoolawhich were generally put up in districts where they could not afford to pay a headmaster and head- mistress. He thought the members of the Board would not like that their daughters should (be mixed with the boys. He stood against mixed classes -in the Intermediate School, but it waa decided to have them. He hoped, however, the School Board would resist tl.at resolution. It was not fair to make those alterations until the Lan Schools had time to shew what they could do. Rev U. Lloyd Davies endorsed all the chair- man had said. The reader of that valuable paper had endeavoured to shew that the Pont- ypridd School Board had acted very foolishly building those schools, but if they followed h-s suggestions now, he thought they would not slow any greater wisdom than they had in the past. It waa not fair to alter the whole char- acter of the schools in a few months. He objected to the formation of a sixth and seven standard in the interests of the scholars them. selves. If it was a great hardship for the scholars to walk from Hopkinstown; it would be a greater hardship for scholars from Cilfyn- ydd and Hawthorn to walk to this school to the seventh standard, and he did not think parents would keep -their children in school if thiey had to walk that distanc,& Uo objected t., anything approaching a Higher Grade School at the present time in that town. Only 100 jards off they had an Intermediate School, which took children from the 5th standard, and if they had a Higher Grade they would have two schools overlapping each others, and doiDg. 119 same work. He believed that in the schools -.1 the Pontypridd parish ample provision was made for teaching the 6th and 7th standards. The Board didtr not undentaff a single achopl, and the staff waa quite capable of teach of tie 6 h and 7th standards. He was sum the teach- ers under that Board would not like it to be authoritatively stated, cA had been done, that tbe 6th and 7th standards were neglected. Tbe The members of the National Union of Teach- ers said it was their wish to keep scholars in school longer than at present. The head- teachers under that Board did not oome up to tbeir profession if they had neglected the upper standards. If they had a Higher Grade School tLey would have three agencies doing the same -rk--rk that was taught in the 6th and 7th standards, (Higher Grade, and Intermediate School. That was a great waste of education and energy. In years to come there would be ai improvement. The Intermediate Schools would take more advanced scholars, say at 15 years of age, and keep them until they were fit to enter college, and thus be what it professed to be—a real Intermediate School between the Higher Grade and College. Mr Jones bad said it was too far for children to walk from Hop- kinstown to the Lan Wood. When be (Rev LI. Duvies) was a boy he had to walk 21 miles eacli way to school every day, and although < was -t then robust he soon because a very fail athlete,, and at the present time, when the country was threatened with various things, they didn't want to bring up their boys as molly-coddles, but as robust men and women wt rthy of the nation. He would do all he could t> keep open the National School at Gyfeillon. He would not allow it to be said he had closed the school voluntarily, but immediately he fcund it necessary for the Board to build at Hopkinstown, he would not be an obstacle in their way, and he would hand over his school to the Board. (Hear, hear). Having held out for ten years and given in under those circum- stances, he would be doing that whichh our brave countrymen had been doing—giving up an untenable position. Hear, hear). Mr W. Jones-Powell much appreciated thlJ: paper read by Mr Jones, but he was compelled to endorse all the Rev Ll. LI. Davies had said. The Board would be foolish to interfere with tf, arrangementa of the Lan Wood, School after going to such great expense in building them. The schools were adapted for the purpose re- quired, and he moved a direct negative to Mr W. M. Jones' motion. Mr J. W. John was sorry the Vicar had not seen his way clear to have a Higher Grade School, inasmuch as the working class had not the means of sending their children to the In- te 1 mediate School. The Rhondda Board had erected Higher Grade Schools, and they also had a County School in their district. If that Board could do it with benefit to itself and scholars, he could not see why the Pontypridd Board could not organise a Higher Grade School at Mill street. Rev Lloyd Davies said it would pay the Board better to give the children in the upper sierdards scholarships in the County School, rather than go to any expense in making pre- paration for them. The Rev M. McManus highly complimented Mr W. M. Jones on his speech. The motion was, however, lost, the only member supporting it being the mover.

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