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RHYL URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL.

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RHYL URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL. THE EXTENSION OF THE PROMENADE. NEW RHYL AND ITS DRAINAGE SCHEME. The monthly meeting of the Rhyl Urban District Council was held on Monday afternoon at the Council Chamber. Capt E W Keatinge, J.P., presided, and Mr Abel Jones occupied the vice, chair. There were also present Dr Girdlestone, Messrs A Maltby, R Jolley, Jos Williams (Alex), Jos Williams (Gas), D Evans, J Bayliss, D Griffiths, R Jones, J H Ellis, S Perks, J Frimston, P Mostyn Williams, A Rowlands, Town Clerk Robt Hughes, Town Surveyor and Inspector of Nuisances L G Hall, Gas and Water Manager; H L Brown, Resident Engineer; and Dr Eyton Lloyd, Medical Officer of Health. THE POSITION OF THE TOWN SURVEYOR. Mr P Mostyn Williams, moved that the Council accept as a recommendation the resolution passed by the Council when in Committee at a special meeting, relative to the re-engagement of Mr Robert Hughes as Town Surveyor. This was agreed to, and the Council appointed the Joint Road and Sanitary Committee as a special one to consider the duties of the Surveyor and Inspector of Nuisances, and to report on the re- arrangement to the Council. FOOTWAYS. It was reported that several footways in the town had been inspected and taken over by the Council, and it was agreed that the whole town be taken in sections to see what other footways could be adopted. THE LAND NEAR THE LAKE. The Committee recommended that the Crown land near the Marine Lake be purchased, if the Office of Woods and Forests would take £500 for it. Mr P Mostyn Williams did not think that that offer would be accepted, and he proposed that the Council offer to rent it for 31 years at flo per annum, with option of purchase. The Vice-Chairman failed to see the necessity for acquiring the land. If they could get it for a nominal sum all right. He considered it a waste of money to take it, as they could get no return. Mr Frimston: Would you not give £15 a year lor it? The Vice-Chairman: What for ? It is of little ase and JE500 is more than it is worth. Mr Robert Jones said the land had been rented for £2. That showed what others considered it was worth. Mr Jolley and Mr Maltby thought the land should be secured so that the Council could get a aiding into the Gas Works at an early date. On the Council dividing, the members voting for and against Mr P. Mostyn Williams amendment were equal, and the Chairman gave his casting vote for renting. Mr Ellisproposed that the Council offer to buy the best half of the land for £500, but it fell through, there being no seconder. Mr D Evans proposed, and the Vice-Chairman seconded, that the Council do not at present deal further with the matter. This was lost by seven to six, and Mr P Mostyn Williams' amendment was then agreed to. LEVELLING THE SANDHILLS. An application had been received for levelling the Sandhills in front of Plastirion Terrace, and the committee were instructed to consider the matter in time for the next estimates. BUOYING THE FORYD. The Rhyl Yacht Club wrote to the Council asking them to properly buoy the Foryd. It was complained of that the harbour was at present held by and for the benefit of one man for dredging operations, and they pointed out that there was great danger owing to the mooring of flats and the dredger in the harbour. Several accidents had occurred, but fortunately without any serious results, and the Club complained that the men in charge of the flats used very bad language when asked to slacken a rope to let a yacht pass. Instead of Rhyl being a comfortable harbour it was a byeword among yachtsmen. The yacht com- mittee asked that the three following improve- ments should be effected :—(1), The proper buoying of the river, channel, and fairway; (2), the appoint- ment of some properly authorised body or person to control the mooring of all craft, so that the navigation of the river may be open to all; (3), that the dredging of the river may be under the same control for the benefit of the community and for the safety of the property of the ratepayers and others. The Committee had considered the letter and had given instructions for inquiries to be made. Mr P Mostyn Williams said they would have to be very careful, as the Rhuddlan Marsh Embank- ment Trustees were really the Harbour Authority. Mr Robert Jones said he was blamed a great deal and had had credit for nothing. He thought that the language imported by the yachtsmen would hold its own with the language used by the men on the flats. At present there was an authorised per- son to see that his dredger did not go out of a cer- tain course. He had done much to improve the Foryd, and had kept it buoyed for the last twenty years at his own expense, while the Rhyl Yacht Club had not spent a farthing. Messrs Charles Jones and Son had also done the same. It was possible for craft to lie comfortable in the harbour now, whereas a few years ago that was impossible. It was true that he had made a little money at the dredging, but he had spent it in Rhyl and for the benefit of the town. What had the Rhyl Yacht Club done in that respect ? It was all very well for people who did nothing themselves to blame others, but they should give a little credit where it was due. It was decided to make inquiries into the matter. ADHERING TO THE BYE-LAWS. The Committee had recommended that certain alterations be allowed in a building at Vale-road, but, on the proposition of Dr Girdlestone, who protested against any alteration being permitted which was not in accordance with the bye-laws, it was decided to call upon the owner of the property to adhere to the bye-laws and the approved plans. THE CLOSING OF ONE END OF WOOD ROAD. The Clerk reported that he had nearly completed his collecting of evidence as to the right of way in Wood Road, one end of which had been closed. THE PROMENADE EXTENSION. It was reported that the Town Surveyor had es- timated that it would cost fl.OOOtoerectasea. wall in front of the Winter Gardens, and the Committee recommended that the owners of the property along the front at Foryd be informed that they would be prepared to consider a joint scheme for extending the Promenade to the Foryd. Mr Jolley said the new company at the Winter Gardens was prepared to guarantee the interest on the expenditure by the erection of sufficient houses to meet the increased demand on the rates. They would deal with their own land and had nothing to say about anyone else. The Vice-Chairman said that would alter things a great deal. It was good news. Mr P Mostyn Williams moved that the Sur- veyor's estimate be laid before the Company, so that they could make an offer to the Conncil. Mr Perks hoped that the Council would not pledge itself to anything. It was not only the cost of erecting the sea-wall that they had to consider, but that of maintaining a wall at one of the most exposed parts of Rhyl. The Chairman said that the Council would hnd if they looked at an old sale plan of that land that it was then proposed to set the buildings back, and so give more land to the front. That would reduce the danger a great deal. He would, however, not go in for any further public improvements at present, if any expenditure of money was involved. He wanted to see the rate reduced to3s6d in the Mr Jolley was sure, from what he was told, that there would be sufficient property erected to cover the rates and the interest on the money. The voting was equal on Mr Mostyn Williams' amendment, and the Chairman gave his casting vote against it. The Council then adopted the committee's re- commendation. RHYL ROWING CLUB REGATTA. A letter was read from the Secretary of the Rhyl Rowing Club, thanking the Council for granting competitors at the Regatta to be held on the 21st inst., the free use of the boats. The Club also aaked for the use of the enclosure, to provide seating accommodation. A discussion arose as to the disposal of the pro- ceeds of the admission money to the enclosure, and the Vice-Chairman proposed, and Mr Mostyn Williams seconded, that the Council take the receipts and give the Rowing Club £2 2s towards the prizes. Mr R Jones proposed, and Mr D Evans seconded, that the Rowing Club be permitted to charge 3d for admission to the enclosure, and that they devote the proceeds to the prize list. The voting was equal, and it was decided on the easting vote of the Chairman, to adopt Mr R Jones' amendment. ENCLOSING OF LAKE. The Committee gave instructions for application for tenders to be made for the erecting of fences around the Marine Lake so that canvas hoardings can be placed against them on gala days, when the Council have the right to charge for admission. MORFA HOSPITAL. This building was reported to be completed, and the keys handed over to the nurse in charge. TRADE REFUSE. On the recommendation of the Sanitary Commit- tee, it was decided to charge in future for the re. moval of trade refuse in accordance with the! time occupied. FEES AT THE TOWN CEMETERY. The General Purposes Committee had considered the fees charged at the Town Cemetery, and they recommended that they be altered so as to be ex- actly the same as those charged at the Church Cemetery. RMr Ellis said the Church-people had been very shrewd in the matter of fees, and had charged less for the first interment, and more for the second, or after the connection was established. The Council would do the same, and also charge less than be- fore for rotation graves, as in the Church Cemetery a person had to pay less if he allowed the sexton to open the grave next to the last filled in. The Clerk having stated that the Vicar had sup- plied him with a list of the fees, the recommenda- tion was adopted. LESS GAS USED. Mr L. G. Hall reported that 37,600 feet of gas less had been delivered in August than in the corresponding period of last year. During the month 2,644,500 feet of gas had been made. Mr Jos Williams asked if the manager could explain the decrease. Mr Ellis suggested that it was due to the introduction of the incandescent light (laughter). Mr D Evans said it was due to the high price charged for the supply to gas cookers. Mr Hall said he could not explain the decrease, except that it was in the day consumption of gas, but he had to point out that there was an increase on the consumption in August, 1893. Mr Perks suggested that every householder who had a gas cooker should receive instructions as to the working of it. Mr Ellis stated that he had found a gas cooker at his house a great saving. The report was adopted. GAS ARREARS. J Instructions were given to the Town Clerk to take steps to recover the gas arrears. NEW WORKS. A tender of Messrs Crossley and Son, Man- chester, was accepted for the supplying of a gas engine for the Gas Works the letting of the contracts for the other works was deferred. ADVERTISING BOARDS AT THE TOWN HALL. A discussion arose as to the number of boards to be allowed each hirer of the Town Hall, and after several propositions had been made, it was decided that six boards should be allowed. WATER. Mr Hall reported that 11,950,000 gallons of water had been supplied to the district during August, which gave 16'82 gallons per head per day. The Reservoir on August 31st had about three months' supply of water. With regard to Penycefndy water, the manager said he had hoped to discontinue pumping in a week, but as the visitors appeared to be remaining in Rhyl in larger numbers than usual in September, he would keep the additional supply on for another couple of weeks. Mr D Evans stated that an official at the Railway Station had told him that there had never been so many people at Rhyl during the season (applause). Mr R Jones, in moving the report of the Water Committee, said the committee had not been able to see their way clear to reduce the charges for water supplied to^Llanddulas. He was pleased to say that St Asaph and Trefnant now had satisfac- tory water supplies, and that without the Council incurring the cost of a new main. THE DRAINAGE OF NEW RHYL. The Council having received an application from the Company owning property on which New Rhyl is proposed to be built, the Joint Road and Sanitary Committee had con- sidered it, and recommended that the new company be allowed to connect their drains with those of the town upon such terms and conditions as may be agreed upon by the owners of property and occupiers, as provided by sec. 22 of the Public Health Act of 1875. Mr Ellis said the Committee had been divided on the subject, and they should consider that New Rhyl would be a rival to the old town, and the first thing its founders wanted to do was to dis- charge their sewage into the Rhyl sewers. The promoters wanted to get the drains so that they could put the land in the market, and so enhance its value. But Rhyl would not get much advan- tage after going to the great expense it had during the past few years. Mr Frimston said he would propose the amend- ment he had lost at the Committee. He had pro- posed that the annual contribution from the drains of New Rhyl should never be less than jE50 per annum. He would again propose that, although he did not think that £100 a year would be too much. He thought that the company would get the best end of the stick. Mr Jos Williams (Gas) seconded. He thought £30 was not quite sufficient, and he would rather have a lump sum down, as the Company would, perhaps, be dissolved after it had sold the land. Dr Girdlestone said Mr Baldwin Latham had advised them that they would be well repaid if they charged the new Company at the rate of Is in the £ on all rateable values. Not only would the whole thing be carried through at no expense to the ratepayers, but by letting New Rhyl connect with the present system, Rhyl would be guarded against any nuisance that may arise by having other outfall works so near to the town. Mr P. Mostyn Williams said he could not agree with either the amendment or the proposition, and he thought that they should go thoroughly into the matter. They would have difficulty in finding what would be the value of the easement because the land would increase in value as soon as the Council granted permission for the drains. Rhyl was asked after it had been spending thousands during the last 50 years for improvements to give an easement over the whole system of drainage, and that for a rival watering place outside their district. He knew that there were certain powers given by the Public Health Act, but he did not think that the power to join with their system was compulsory. It could only be done on certain terms. The speaker then went into details at con- siderable length, and argued that Mr Baldwin Latham did not take a correct view of it. They should consider that the eastern drainage scheme cost £1780 in itself.- He considered that the charge should be at least Is 6d per £ on the rateable value. He believed that the land was first bought for about £!O per acre, and it was now said to be worth £1000 per acre. The area of New Rhyl was equal to one- fifth the area of the district for which the Council paid £1780 for draining. The new company should pay at least £250 a-year, or Is 6d in the £ rateable value, and they should consider that they, by the fact of being close to Rhyl, would share that town's reputation, and save itself the cost of outfall works. He gave notice that he would propose an amend- ment that they charge at the rate of jE50 per annum, increasing by £50 until £250 was reached, when the product of a Is 6d rate would be taken, £250 being the minimum. Mr Perks advocated the refusing of permission altogether. He could hardly conceive how a com- pany could have the effrontery to ask for such a thing. He considered it would be a great injustice to the ratepayers of Rhyl if they granted it. After they had gone to the trouble of draining the town well, outsiders stepped in and wanted to share the benefit. The Vice-Chairman advocated the going into the matter fully, and he hoped that they would not make a mistake. It was not a big scheme, and the committee asked that permission should be granted provided they could come to terms. Mr Frimston's amendment, oni being put to the meeting, was lost by 7 to 5. Mr Mostyn Williame proposed that they make a charge of £250 per year, £50 on signing the agree- ment, and JE50 a year until £250 was reached or to pay £3000 down, and at the rate of Is 6d in the £ on the rateable value afterwards. Mr D Evans seconded. The Chairman said he did not wish to enter into the discussion, but he could say that the new company could go to arbitration, and he did not think that anyone would compel the people of New Rhyl to pay at the rate of Is 6a in the £ when the Rhyl people only paid Is 2d for drainage. fPOn being put to the meeting, Mr P Mostyn Williams' amendment was lost by 6 to 5. Mr D Evans then proposed that the charge be £100 a year until the rateable value covered that amount. This was carried by 7 to 6. Mr Perks then proposed that they refuse per- mission until a public meeting had been called. Mr Ellis seconded. Mr D Evans said he understood that they could not stop the connection being made, and it would be a great mistake to show bad feeling. Rhyl trade would be bound to benefit. The Chairman said he hoped Mr Perks would not persist in calling a public meeting. It would weaken the position of the Council, as it would be the practice for all who were beaten to rush for a public meeting, which could be educated either way- The Council should accept its responsibility. Mr Jos. Williams (Gas) thought it a public ques- tion. The Chairman Our decisions are given in this room, not at a public meeting. The Town Clerk said he believed that outsiders could compel the Council to connect them, but if they found that they could not deal with the quantity of sewage they could giv them three months' notice to disconnect. Mr Jos. Williams (Alex.) said he would vote for connecting to prevent another outfall being made near Rhyl* The Chairman said he thought they all wanted to see Rhyl developed. Mr Jos. Williams (Gas): But this is new Rhyl. The Chairman Don't you think that if 80 or 90 good houses were put up there you would.soon in- clude them in Rhyl? The Council then divided, when there voted for Mr Perks' motion the following :-Messrs S Perks, Ellis, and P. Mostyn Williams-3. Against-Dr. Girdlestone, Messrs. Abel Jones, J. Bayliss, D. Griffiths, R. Jolley, D. Evans, Jos. Williams (Gas), Jos. Williams (Alex.), R. Jones, J. Frimston—10. Mr D. Evans' motion was then put to the meet- ing, and declared carried. RATING OF LOCK-UP SHOPS. The Council decided, on the recommendation of the Finance Committee, to rate all lock-up shops for the whole year unless they were actually out of occupation and empty. The Council then rose.

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