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Denbighshire County Council. THE ANNUAL MEETING. COLWYN BAY'S DEMAND FOR INCREASED REPRESENTATION. EFFORT TO SECURE TWO ALDERMEN. THE COUNCIL'S CONTROL OF EDUCATION. A fresh chapter dn the history of local govern- ment in Denbighshire was opened at the an- nual meeting of the County Council, on Friday, at Wrexham. There was a very good attendance of Aldtermien and Councillors, a notable absentee being the retiring Vice-Chairman, Colonel Coxn- wallis-West, of Ruthin Castle. Some 'of the members had to travel a long distance in order to attend the meeting, and their fidelity to duty was another illustration of 'the sacrifices so readily made, by the men who seek to promote by their voluntary service the good of the com- munity at large. For instance, the Rev Rawson Williams, who resides near Beftws-y-Coed, and the Llanrwst members had to face a pretty for- midable railway j Gurney before even getting on to the Coast linte at Llandudno junction. One of the rural members residing between Llanfair- ,talhaiam and Llangermiew had to journey eight miles by road in order to join the train at Aber- gele station. The Colwyn Bay and Glan Con- way members were there to a man, as also were the Abergele representatives, and a fairly good muster of members whiled away the time of waiting at Chester station, for the. Wrexham train. When they arrived at their destination they discovered that a number of Liberal stal- warts, like Mr D. O. Williams, of Old Colwyn, had stayed in the town overnight, having been summoned to attend the "caucus" meeting which always precedes the Council's annual meeting. These assemblies, of course, are held in private, but it is generally understood that they are called for the purgpse of deciding upon united action in filling the chair, the vice-chair, and the vacancies on the aldermanic bench. The newcomers made inquiries as to what had trans, pired, and fouind that it had been decided to follow the custom of re-electing the Chairman for a .second year of office, and to place Mr A. O. Evans, the well-known Denbigh solicitor, in the vice-chair. It was also indicated that the Liberals would not vote for the re-election as Aldermen of Mr O. Isgoed Jones (Liberal), Llanrwst, Mr Thomas Williams (Conservative), Denbigh, and Mr William Jones, LiLannefydd (Conservative), and 'that they would nominate, amongst others, the Rev Thos. Lloyd (Liberal), Colwyn Bay, and Mr W. J. Williams (Liberal), Llanrwst. There was a feeling amongst the Col- wyn Bay and, Glan Conway members that whilst m the nomination of the Rev Thomas Llovd should be isupported, an effort should also be made to secure the election of the Rev Thomas Parry, J.P., as a second Alderman for Colwyn Bay. At the Council meeting the re-election of Mr Edward Roberts as Chairman was proposed by Mr W. J. Williams, of Llanrwst, and seconded by such a leading Conservative as Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, and the election was unani- mous. In returning thanks, the Chairman made a curious slip. "I am glad," he said, in his own urbane way, 'T am glad to see so many new faces here to-day"—apparently not realising that this was a somewhat left-handed compliment to his late colleagues who had been defeated at the polls. Then Mr Roberts went on to say that 17 new members had been "added" to the Council, which could hardly be quite correct, seeing that the Council was exactly the same size after the election as before. There was, of course, a little laughter at the Chairman's expanse, but at the same time it was the universal feeling that .in MT Roberts as Chairman they had the right man in the right place. The election of Mr A. O. Evans, who although a young man is a veter- an in the public service, was also unchallenged and unanimous. There was a ripple of excite- ment when the Councillors were called upon to elect the eight Aldermen, and Mr Mac Nicoll aduoitly got in a little .speech which was quite out of order. In this he advocated Colwyn Bay's claims to two Aldermen, and invited the meeting to vote for both the Rev Thomas Lloyd and the Rev Thomas Parry, at the same time putting in a good word for two old Conser- vative members, Mr W. E. Samuel, of Wrexham, and Mr William Jones, of Llannefydd. The voting showed that the majority of the Liberals adhered strictly to the party nominees, but in face of this ten votes were cast for Mr Parry and one for Mr Isgoed Jones. The election of Committees was a tedious business. As is the case in every other county, the Denbighshire Council endeavours to lighten this labourio'us work by inviting a Selection Committee to draft a list of Committee members, and -to bring up ,the list at the annual meeting to be voted upon. The work on this occasion fell upon Mr Edward Roberts, Sir W. W. Wynn, Messrs Christmas Jones, John Roberts, O. Isgoed Jones, Bennett Jones, J. M. Porter, J. Wilcoxon, W. G. Dodd, and Colonel West. It is, of course, open for the meeting to accept or reject any member sug- gested for any Committee, and the list was now gone -through, very carefully. Mr W. J. Wil- liams, of Llanrwst, had been proposed for the Assessment Committee, but he withdrew his name in favour of a Llanrwst colleague, Mr T. R. Williams. The name ofMr Thomas Wil- liams, Denbigh, on the Asylum Committee was removed1, and that of Mr J. T. Mill ward, Aber- gele, put in its place. Both Mr D. O. Williams and Mr D. Mac Nicoll desired to be released from the Education Committee, and their places were taken by the Rev Thomas Lloyd and Mr J. R. Williams. The name of Mr Isgoed Jones was included by the. Selection Committee, but was now replaced by that of Mr J. C. Rowland. On discussion of the composition of the Finance Committee, the place of Mr Isgoed Jones was given to Mr J. D. Jones, of Bodoryn, Abergele, and the -same gentleman's place on the Police Committee was assigned to Mr W. J. Williams. Mr McFarlane, of Llanrwst, was suggested by the Selection Committee for one of the seats on the Conway Board of Conservators, but in his place Mr Edward Mills, of the same town, wa,s chosen. As our readers are no doubt aware, the County Council is the Local Education Auth- ority under the Act of 1902, but it may delegate its powers to an Education Committee, which means that the work of this Committee will not come up for revision by the Council—in other words, the Council relinquishes its control over educational 'administration. It has been the practice to so delegate these powers for twelve" months a.t a time, but Mr George Bevan, of Col- wyn Bay, was able to carry his first amendment as a County Councillor, which provides that the powers shall be delegated only until August next, when the Council will have to reconsider the question. As Mr Mac Nicoll was the first member to speak at the meeting, so also was he the last. He was ist-rictly in order this time, and was able to render a service to the farmers of the county with regard to the Orders issuoo by the Board of Agriculture.

The Meeting AN ALDERMAN FOR COLWYN BAY. CHAIRMAN'S WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS. The annual meertinlg of the Denbighshire County Council was 'held in the County Hall, Wrexham, on Friday, commencing at noon.. Mr Edward Roberts, of Brymbo, the retiring Chairman, presided at the outset, and there were also, present Sir Waitkin Williams Wynn, Bart., C.B., Sir Foster Cunliffe, Bart., Dr. David Lloyd, Dr. J. C. Davies, Dr. J. M. Hughes (Ruthin), Messrs. Gomer Roberts, Evan Roberts, Griffith Jones, A. O. Evans, J. A. Chadwick, John Allen, John Hughes, Tom Owen (Llanfairtalhaiarn), Richard Myddleton, D. Mac Nicoll, J. Stephen Jones, J. M. Porter, D. O. VVilhams, Edward Allen, George Bevan, Robert Jones (Llamarmom), Edward Hughes, F. A. Sturge, E. Lloyd Jones,, W. E. Samuel, J. Wilcoxon, Christmas Jones, J. R. Williams, J. D. Jonas (Abergele), Bennett Jones, Henry Wil- liams, W. J. Williams (Llanrwst), E. W. Thomas, J. T. Millward', Rev. H. Rawlson Wil- liams (Bettws<-y-Coed), J. A. Harrop, John Ro- berts. (Henllan), Boaz Jones, E. Seymour Jones, Hugh, Hughes, Godfrey Fitzhugh, Robert Ellis, W. G. Dodd, R. Myddleton, Griffith Jones, R. H. Storey, T. Evans, D. Edwards, Trevor Lloyd Jones, R. A. Jones, Simon Jones Edward Wil- liams, Bennett Jones, John R. Williams (Llan- rwist), John D. Jones (Cysulog] together with the Clerk of the Peace (Mr W. R. Evans), and the Deputy Clerk (Mr John Roberts). The Clerk submitted the r-eturms of the elec- tions of members to represent the 51 electoral divisions of the county. In addition to 51 members the Council in- cludes 17 Aldlermen., UNABLE TO ATTEND. Letters of apology for inability to attend were read from Mr J. C. Rowland1, Colonel Mainwar- ing, Colonel Cornwallis-West, Mr Noah Price, Mr Thomas Jones, Mr Jonathan Roberts and others. THE CHAIRMAN. Mr W. J. Williams. (Llanrwst), when, it was announced that the next business was. the elec- tion of Chairman, rose to propose the re-election of Mr Edward Roberts for the ensuing year. Those members who had attend-ed the meetings during the last three years', and especially for the. past twelve months, were well acquainted with Mr Roberts's qualifications for the post. For the information of the new members it might be said that Mr Roberts, during his occu- pancy of the chair, 'had shown all thois,e busi- nesslike qualities and the tact and fairness which essentially went to the making of a successful c-hairman, and one acceptable to all sections of the Council. If any guarantee for the future were required, he had no hesitation in saying that with Mr Roberts in the chair the honour of the Council and the dignity of the chair were in perfectly safe keeping in the bands of Mr Ro- berts. (Applause.) Sir Watkin Williams. vVynn seconded the mo- tion, and cordially agreed with the remarks1 made by Mr W. J. Williams. He did not think they hadanycauSle of any sort to complain of the way in which Mr Roberts had occupied the chair during his first year of office. The Clerk asked whether there was any amendment, and none beinl, forthcoming, put the motion to the vote. It was unanimously carried. The Chairman, on resuming his place, said he thanked the Council for the renewal of con- fidence implied by their action in electing him unanimously—he laid great emphasis on the fact that they had elected him unanimously—as Chairman of the Council for the ensuing year. He also thanked Mr Williams and Sir Watkin for the kind remarks they made in proposing and seconding the resolution. He felt that he oWfd a debt .of gratitude to the members of the old Council for the valuable assistance they had rendered to him in fulfillinig his duties in the chair. He was glad to see so many new faces there that day. He believed that out of a total of 51 members they bad 17 new members—exact- ly one-third of the Council—and he trusted that they would unite with the old members in carrying out the business of the Council united- ly and harmoniously. He looked forward with confidence to receiving from the Council their indulgence and assistance in the coming year. (Applause.) THE VICE-CHAIRMAN. 'Mr John Roberts (Henllan) said he would pro- pose for the vice-chair a -gentleman whose name, he felt sure, would meet with general accept- ance. He referred to Mr A. O. Evans, of Den. bigh, a gentleman who had had a long experi- ence of public work. He had been a member of that County Council for nine years, Mayor of Denbigh for two years, a Chairman of the Main Roads Committee for .a similar period, and his great experience and his legal knowledge would be of great assistance to him should he ever be called upon to take the Chairman's place. Also, he spoke Welsh. There were several members who could not express themselves very eloquent- ly in English, and it would be of great assist- ance to them if the occupant of the chair under- stood the Welsh language. (Hear, hear.) Dr. J. C. Davies secondted the motion, which was unanimously carried. Mr A. O. Evans took his seat at the side of the Chairman, and returned thanks for his unanimous election. It wais an honour to which he did not think he was entitled, but since it was his friends' wish he would make no apology for accepting it. (Hear, hear.) THE CHOICE OF ALDERMEN. The next business was the election of eight Aldermen. The retiring Aldermen were named on the agenda as follows:- Mr J. A. Harrop, Mos's, near Wrexham. Mr Arthur E. Evans, Bronwylfa Wrexham. Mr O. Isgoed Jones, Plas-yn-Dre, Llanrwst. Mr William Griffith, London House, Llanfair- talhaiarn. Mr Thomas Williams, Llewesog. Denbigh. Mr James Fraser, Queen-street, Wrexham. Mr Beinjamin, Harrison, Coedpoeth, Wrexham. M:r William Jones, Penporchell, Llamnefydd, Trefnant. It will be seen that four of the retiring Alder- men belonged to East Denbighshire and the other four to West Denbighshire. Nomination papers, to be filled up by the mem. bers present (except the occupants of the Aider- manic Bench.) were distributed Mr D. 'Mac Niooll immediJately rose and, hav. ing thanked the Chairman for the welcome he had extended to the new members, asked whether he would be in order in making la few remarks on the election of Aldermen. "In the part of the county I come from," the speaker proceeded, "there is a feeling that that portion of Denbigh- shire has be,en neglected 11" John Roberts (Henllan) rose to ask whether Mr Mac -Nicoll was in order. The Chairman': The Aldermen are not pro- posed and seconded individually, but each mem- ber has a paper on which to nominate eight Al- dermen. I hardly think it is entirely rim order for Mr Mac Nicoll to discuss this matter now. Mr Mac Nicoll resumed his seat. The Chairman.: At the same time, I have no objection, if Mr Mac Nicoll has any remarks to make on this subject, for him to address you I now. Mr Mac Nicoll said he would be very brief. It would be observed that the eight Aldermen were equally divided between the two divisions of the county. Now, Wrexham, with a popula- tion of 14,000 and a rateable value of /?,ooo, had five Aldermen, four of whom were now re- tiring. whilst Colwyn Bav. with a rateable value of i'74,ooo and a population of 11,000 had no Aldermen. He suggested, to equalise matters so far as representation on the Aldermanic Bench was concerned, that they should all vote for two Aldermen for Colwyn Bay—the Rev Thomas Parry and the Rev ThoÍnas Lloyd. The Council included 34 Progressives and 15 Reformers, and if the- small minority could be represented on the Aldermanic Bench it would give them more in- terest in the proceedings of the Council. The minority of Reformers).were of a friendly disposi. tioo, and their criticisms would be marked by the same .sincerity as those of the great majority, and under the eirourmstainoes he would the Coun- cil would stee their way to include among the East Denbighshire Aldermen Mr W. E. Samuel, of Wrexham, and Mr William Jones, of Pen- porchell. 'Mr J. Wilcoxon (Bersham) declared that Mr Mac Nicoll's figures were all wrong. The popula- tion of the Wrexham district, from which the Aldermen he had referred to were drawn, was betweeln 60,000 and' 70 000, and the rat,eable value' was in proportion. Mr Mac Nicoll I am taking Wrexham town. Mr. Willoxon: But these are not all from Wrexham. The Chairman: Well, gentlemen, you have heard Mr Mac Nicoll's suggestion. heard Mr Mac Nicoll's suggestion. "VKRY COMPLIMENTARY." Sir W. W. Wynn, chewing the end of a short pencil, and evidently labouring under great per- plexity, said he was in great difficulty in filling plexity, said he was in great difficulty in filling up the column in the nomination paiper headed "description." "I don't know all of them," de- clared the baronet. "I shall out in 'gentleman.' Will that be sufficient?" The Chairman: Yes, quite sufficient, and very complimentary. (Laughter, and applause.) A very long time, wa,s taken up with' the fill- ing of the papers, and Sir Watkin observed that there would have been l,es,s trouble if they had proposed and seconded the Aldermen verbally instead of in writing. THE CHOSEN EIGHT. The nomination papers having been returned, the Clerk read1 out how each member had voted, and aiterwards the Deputy Clerk submitted the results, which were as follows:- ELECTED. Mr. Edward Hughes.. 30 Mr. J. A. Harrop. 45 Rev. Thos. Lloyd 42 Mr. W. J. Williams -jo Mr. D. W, Roberts 30 Mr. Thos. Fraser 43 Mr. William Griffith 32 Mr. John Roberts 33 NON-ELECTED. Rev. Thomas Parry 10 Mr. William Jones .15 Mr. W. E. Samuel IS Mr. A. E. Evans.. IS Mr. Edward Roberts 13 Mr. Isg-oed Jones I Mr. John Allen 2 File Chairman announced that the first eight had been elected, and thalta:s, rM,r John Roberts, Mr W. J. WTilliams and Mr Edward! Hughes were members -there would by-elections at Henllan. Llanrwst and Stansty. I- CLERK OF WORKS. Mr Simon Williams stated that at the close of the meeting there would be a special meeting of the Finance Committee to appoint a clerk of works in connection with the. erection of County Officcis at Ruthin. There were 96 candidates for the post, and three, of them had been selected to appear before the Committee before the final appointment was made. The meeting of the Finance Committee was, accordingly held, and after the three applicants had been interviewed the appointment was unanimously given to Mr Pierce Williams. THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE AND ITS POWERS. Mr Harrop proposed that the Education Com- mittee suggested by the Selection Committee be elected with the following exceptions:—>Mr J. C. Rowland to take the place of- Mr. Isgoed Jones; Mr J. D. Jones (Cysulog) in the place of Mr Boaz Jones; Rev Thomas Lloyd in the place of Mr D. O. Williams; Mr J. R. Wil- liams in the place of Mr D. Mac Nicoll Six Foster Cunliffe in place of Mr Godfrey Fitz- hugh; Mr R. A. Jones (Ruabon) to take the place of Mr E. Lloyd Jones. The Committee was unanimously adopted, with these alterations, 'as. follows:—Messrs W. G. Dodd, Simon Jones, J. C. Rowland, Colonel C. S. Mainwarimg, Messrs J. D. Jones (Cysulog), Bennett Jones, W. E. Samuel, William Griffith, Rev Thomas Lloyd, Messrs E. W. Thomas, Christmas- Jones, Edward Roberts, J. Wilcoxon, W. J. Williams, Dr. J. M. Hughes, Messrs George Cromar, F. A. Sturge, R. A. Jones,, Sir F. Cunliffe, Messrs Edward Allen, John Roberts-, J. R. Williams, J. Stephen Jones, Hugh Hughes, John Allen, Gomer Roberts, E. R. Parry, Mrs- Parker Davies, 'Mrs R. J. Powell, Miss Gee, Professor J. E. Lloyd, Messrs J. E. Powell, James Darlington, J. Harrison Jones, D. S. Dav- ies, Thomas Bury. Mr W. G. Doddl explained that every effort had been made, and he believed successfully, to make the Committee as representative as fol- lows. For instance, he mentioned that Wrex- ham, with 25 schools, 'had 11 members; Den- bigh district, with 14 schools, 5 members Col- wyn Bay dishiict, with 14 schools, 4 members. If anything, there was too much representation for Wrexham and Denbigh. Still, it was very difficult to arrange these matters perfectly. The Chairman agreed that the Committee was fairly representative of the whole county. Mr W. G. Do-d-d raised the question whether the County Council was again going to delegate its powers to the Education Committee? He held, it wa,s a miistake to delegate their powers for too- long a period. One disadvantage of not delegating was that the Council would have to meet at least monthly. On the other hand. he thought the Council should keep a firm hold of the administration of education in t'he county and not hand over to others the powers which they might exercise better themselves. A member proposed that the powers be dele- gated for twelve months. Mr E. R. Parry seconded. It would be most inconvenient for the County Council to meet monthly. In the past the Education Committee had done their work excellently and had receiv- ed the absolute confidence 0 of the County Council. Mr Boaz Jones supported. MR. BEVAN'S FIRST AMENDMENT. Mr George Bevan (Colwyn Bay) proposed as an amendment that they delegate the powers for three months, which he thought was quite long enough. On the suggestion of the Chairman, Mr Bevan altered the amendment to read "Until the Au- 0 1 gUlst meeting of this Council." I'h W. G. D-odd seconded. Sir Watkin Wynn What will be the difference to this Council? Mr Dodd said it would be better to have 68 members dealing with education than 34. "I take it," the. speaker added, "that it will be quite competent at the August meeting to move that the powers be -delegated for another three or six monthts"but, on the other hand, if the Council wish to resume'their powers' it will be open for them to do- so." Sir W. W. Wynn: Mr Dodd has had a great deal more than anyone else to do with it, and says that it would be for the benefit of educa- tion for the amendment to be carried. Several Members: "There is nothing in it" and a voice: "It is only Mr D-odd's modesty!" The -amendment was carried by 22 votes to 17, and as a substantial motion) was unanimously adopted. THE COUNTY SCHOOLS. The appointment of Governors of the County Schools of Ruthin, Llanrwst, Ruaibon. and Aber- gele was referred to the Education Committee, as also was the appointment of Managers of the Grouped Council School districts of Colwyn Bay, Cerrig-y-Druidion, Denbigh, Llansilin, Llan- rwst, Ruabon, Ruthin and Wrexham. The ap- pointment of a representative manager on each I -of the 71 non-provided schools in the county was similarly deferred. THE COMMITTEES. The Committees were chosen as follows:- Assessment Committee (11 membems).-Mossms George Cromar, Robert Ellis, Hugh Hughes, Simon Jones, J. Willcoxon, Sir W. W. Wynn, Messrs Henry Williams, J. R. Williams, J. M. Porter, Evan Robert's, J. Stephen Jones. Asyl-Um Committee (6 members).—Messrs J. A. Chadwick, J. T. Millward, A. O. Evans, Dr. David Lloyd, Messrs J. M. Porter, John Roberts. County Seal Committee.—Messrs John Hughes, Thomas Joneis, Dr. J. M. Hughes. Finance Committee (35 members).—Mr Simon Jones, Sir W. W. Wyinm, Messrs J. T. Millward, J. Wilcoxon, Edward Roberts, John Allen, Boaz Jones, W. E. Samuel, George Cromar, Jonathan Griffiths-, F. A. Sturge, Evan Roberts, E. Lloyd Jones, D. Edwards, Trevor Lloyd Jones, J. W. Evans, Colonel C. S. Mainwa-ring, Messrs God- frey Fitzhugh, J. A. Chadwick, Thomas Jones, John Roberts, Thomas Jones (Wrexham), James Fraser. W. G. D-odd, Christmas Jones, Dr. J. C. Davies, 'Messrs George Bevan, Edward Hughes, T. Evans, D. O. Williams, E. W. Thomas, J. M. Porter, J. D. Jones (Bo-dbryni, Abergele), D. Mac Nicoll. J. Stephen Jones. Main Roads, Bridges, &c., Committee for the Wrexham District.—The members of the Coun- cil for the Wrexham District, together with the Chairman of -the Committee for the Denbigh- District. Main Roads, &-c., Committee for the Denbigh District.—The- members of the Council for the Denbigh District, together with the Chairman of the Committee for the Wrexham District. Local Government, Allotments, &c., mit,teie.-Mesisiis John Allen, James Fraser > George Cromar, Thomas Jonas (Plas Coch), Christmas Jones, Thomas Owen, J. Stephen Jones, E. R. Parry, J. Wilcoxon, Jonathan Griffiths, Sijmom Jones, David Edwards, Trevor Lloyd Jones-, Dr. J. C. Davies, Messrs Robert Ellis, Henry Williamta, R. H. Story, D. Mac Nicoll. Public. Healtth Committee (17 members).—Col- West, Dr. J. 'M. Hughes, Messrs Edward Allen J W. J. Williams, George Cromar, Dr. J. C. Dav, ies, Mesisrs Simon Williams, W. E. Samuel, Sir W. W. Wynn, Dr. Lloyd, Messrs Griffith Jones, J. D. Jones (Cysulog), G. Fitzhugh, Jomes, R. H. Story, E. R. Parry, E-dwafd' Williams. Williams. Standing Joint Police Committee (12 members representing the Council).—Meters Simon JOllies" Robert Ellis, A. O. Evans, W. J. Williams, J. Wilcoxon, John. Roberts, Gomer Roberts. Ed- ward Roberts, John Allen, Georg-e Cromar, Christmas Jones, Boaz Jones. Selection Committee.—Election deferred- ialntil close of the Council's year. Unemployed' Workmen's Act (Continued on Page 5.

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