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Cowlyd Joint Water Board. LIVELY PROCEEDINGS. One of the occasional meetings of this Board was held on Friday morning last at Colwyn Bay, v I the Rev. W. Venables Williams (Chairman) pre- siding. There were also present the Rev. Thomas Parry, and Messrs John Porter, Robert Evans, Daniel Phillips, John Roberts, Hugh Owen, Councillor Humphrey Lewis (Mayor of Conway), Councillor Dr. R. Arthur-Prichard, Alderman Hugh Hughes, the Clerk (Mr T. E. Parry), the Engineer (Mr T. B. Farrington, C.E.) and the Clerk-of-the-Works (Mr Moses Williams). Several ratepayers were present, including the Colwyn Bay District Council's Surveyor (Mr William Jones, A.M.I.C.E.). THE MINUTES. The Clerk read the minutes of the last meeting. The Rev. Thomas Parry said that the minutes in one particular were not correct. In those minutes, two divisions were mentioned, and the voting in each was given as five against seven. That was not correct. The voting was four against seven. The Clerk said that he was under the impres- sion that his minutes were correct, and on look- ing into his division list he found five names against seven. Among those five was the name of the Rev. W. Venables-Williams. The Rev. Thomas Parry still maintained that the minutes were not correct, and that only four had voted against seven. The Chairman said that he was one of the five who voted against the seven. Several members expressed the opinion that the minutes as read, were correct, and one or two supported Mr Parry's view. The Rev. T. Parry said that the Chairman did not vote. The Chairman I assert that I did vote. The Rev. T. Parry repeated his contradiction, and was amplifying on it when the Chairman said, hotly, Am I to understand that is the lie direct ? The Rev. T. Parry (airily) You can take it as you like. You did not vote. You counted only four, and seven against. You can call it as you like. Mr John Roberts I beg to ask is it a dispute about the Clerk's words ? What is Mr Parry's objection ? The Rev. T. Parry The Chairman counted four for the resolution, and seven for the amend- ment. Mr John Roberts Yes, but if the Clerk put it down five instead of four, you must blame the Clerk for not keeping right minutes. The Chairman I remember perfectly saying, I vote for it." Mr Robert Evans I think sir, you did vote for the last motion,—to pay for the testing of the pipes in Colwyn Bay, and you protested against the way in which some members voted in a party spirit. Dr. Prichard The question is whether the minutes are correct or not. Those remarks of the Chairman's (referred to by Mr Evans) were jocular, and lie really had no right to make any remarks of that kind. Mr Porter I think when he condemned the Conway people for voting on party lines that implies that he voted for us. Mr John Roberts I remember the Chairman expressing his view at our Council, and I take it that is confirmation of our action and that he was with us. I propose that the minutes be signed as correct. If we are to blame anybody, it should be Mr Pairy the Clerk. Dr. Prichard seconded. Alderman Hughes said that there was a remark made in Colwyn Bay that the Chairman had changed his mind. Mr John Roberts It does not matter what is said in Colwyn Bay it does not affect us as a Council. The Chairman (to Alderman Hughes): You are utterly mistaken if you think it is in regard to the resolution. Dr. Prichard Have we anything to do with the Colwyn Bay Council here, Mr Chairman? The Chairman No. It is proposed by Mr John Roberts, and seconded by Dr. Prichard, that the minutes are correct. The Rev. T. Parry Correct except in that particular. The Chairman Do you move an amendment ? The Rev. T. Parry Yes. The Chairman Anyone second it? Mr Owen I second it. The Chairman (brusquely) Then I must ask you both to stand up. Both members then stood up, one after the other, and sat down again. The Board then divided, the correctness of the minutes being asserted by a majority of six to three. The Chairman I will vote for it. The minutes were then discussed in detail, and Mr Robert Evans called attention to the fact that while in Llysfaen (which contributed to the rates) they were disconnected with the mains, several people outside the District had connexion with with the mains. He considered that that was not fair, and proposed that all outsiders be discon- nected. Rev T. Parry seconded. Alderman Hughes I beg to rise to a point of order. We have confirmed the minutes allowing these people to have the water, and now, without rescinding that motion, it is proposed to cut them off. The other resolution should first be rescinded. [Hear. hear]. Dr Prichard May I ask what Mr Evans means by outside the district ? The Chairman Outside the constituted author- ity. Anything beyond the Borough of Conway on the other side of the river, is beyond the Rural Authority. Alderman Hughes I ask for your ruling, sir, on the point of order. The Chairman I think Mr Robert Evans is right. Alderman Hughes Without any notice what- ever to rescind the previous resolution? The Chairman: N es, because they are our con- stituents. Dr Prichard You must rescind the contract with these people. The Chairman Well, if the Clerk says my ruling is wrong, I will submit. The Clerk then read the previous resolution which sanctioned certain connexions on certain conditions. In two of the cases referred-to, agreements had been duly executed. Mr John Roberts Suppose we do away with these connexions, will it help Llysfaen to a drop more water ? The Engineer Not a drop. Mr Roberts I could understand the resolution if there was not enough water in the Lake, and the object was to save as much as possible for storage, but, if we stop the whole of connexions on the other side of Sarn Mynach, it would not help us a drop. The fact is, our main is too small. The Chairman (rising) Subject to the advice given by our Clerk, I stand corrected, and, as far as the two completed agreements are concerned, notice must be given to rescind the previous resolution. Mr Evans The others are right, then ? The Chairman Yes, because there is no agreement. Mr Evans But they are connected, are they not ? The Clerk Yes. The Chairman Mr Evans means that those who have connected without permission of the Board, be cut off ? Alderman Hughes Well, is not the previous resolution That no connexions be made without an agreement with the Board," enough for Mr Evans ? The Chairman I take it he is quite content with his resolution.

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Cowlyd Joint Water Board.

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Cowlyd Joint Water Board.

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