The Weekly News and Visitors' Chronicle for Colwyn Bay Colwyn Llandrillo Conway Deganwy and Neighbourhood

CONWAY. Pa?-ish Church (Sunday Services): 8.0 a.m. Celebration of the Holy Communion. 9.45 a.m. Welsh service. 11.15 a.m. English service. 6.0 p.m. Welsh service. 10.30 a.m. daily, Matins. St. Agnes 6.0 p.m. English service. Wesleyan Methodist Chapel.- (English Services).— Next Sunday: Morning 11.0, Mr J. W. Adamson, Colwyn Bay; evening 6.30, Mr R. Robinson, Conway. A GOOD PLACE FOR BOOTS.-For the best and cheapest of all classes of Boots and Shoes go to Joseph Jones, Berry Street, Conway. Best Shop for repairing. adv. Ioq- THE JUNCTION ENGLISH PRESBYTERIAN SER- VICES.—Next Sunday, January 20th, the 11.0 a.m. and 6.30 p.m. English Presbyterian Services will be taken by the Rev Robert Rogers (of Abergele), whose ministrations are justly appreciated. WINDFALLS FOR Two RESIDENTS.—It is under- stood that under the will of Mr Owen Lewis, a very wealthy gentleman resident at Bodrhyda (Anglesea), Alderman Hugh Jones (Bangor-road) and Mrs Edward Jones (Matron of the Conway Workhouse), will be greatly benefitted. The beneficiaries were respectively nephew and niece of the testator, who died last August. LLANRHOS SCHOOLS.—A complimentary concert given to Mr W. Williams, who has for many years been the headmaster of Llanrhos National Schools, attracted a crowded audience on Wednesday evening, January 9th. The Rev F. G. Jones (Vicar) occupied the chair, the artistes being Miss Leech, Miss Helen Tritton, Miss Ruth Claxton, Messrs Denbigh Cooper, J. S. Davies, T. Davies, A. E. Bethell, Tenorydd Tudno Owen, and Williams Miss Williams and Mr Rowland Williams were the accompanists. On the motion of Colonel Lambert, seconded by Councillor C. Drover, a vote of thanks was accorded the chairman. THE ST JOHN AMBULANCE ASSOCIATION.—A meeting in connexion with the Conway Corps of the St John Ambulance Association, was held, in the Guild Hall, on Monday evening, January 14th, the Mayor (Councillor Dr R. Arthur-Prichard) in the chair, P.C. Griffith (52) was elected Hon. Sec. and Mr J. W. Post, Hon. Treasurer. The Mayor intimated his willingness to deliver the necessary course of lectures, and to present to each member of the Class a copy of Shepherd's "First Aid to the Injured." These announce- ments were received with great applause. It was decided that in view of the fee tor member- ship being fixed at half-a-crown (a figure which would be insufficient to cover expenses), friends of the movement be asked to join as honorary members, and that the Hon. Sec. and Treasurer should be deputed to wait upon gentlemen inter- ested in the matter, with a view to enrolling them as honorary members. It was arranged that the first lecture should be delivered at eight o'clock on Monday evening, January 2ist, and the Mayor strongly impressed upon those present the necessity of members attending every lecture. A TEA-MEETING AT GVFFIN.—OnjWednesday, January 2nd, a substantial repast was put before the children of the Sunday School connected with Gyffin Church, the Rector himself doing the honours of the day, at the close of which a suitable present of apparel or wearing-trinket was given to every child, just as a memento of the occasion and to serve as a New Year offering. The gift was evidently much valued, and, to judge from the expressions visible on the children's faces, good-will and peace reigned supreme. GYFFIN PARISH CHURCH.—The annual Carol Service was held in St. Benedict's Parochial Church, Gyffin, on Sunday, the last day but one of the expiring year, the Church being well filled half-an-hour prior to the appointed hour of com- mencing, six o'clock. Hymn 508 (A. & M.) was sung (to "Adeste Fideles") at the opening service. The Psalms were chanted to Havergal in E, Oaklay's Quadruple Chant in F, Anchient Theme in E flat, and Old Melody in G. After the Third Collect, followed the anthem Clywch lu'r Nef," (by H. Davies, A.C.), and, this having been well rendered by the Choir, then came the Carols, of which we give a list:—" Deffrowch Grist'nogion," "Croeso Foreu gwelwyd Goleu," "Tan nodded Duw Nef," Y boreu hwn, trwy buraf hedd," Behold a stranger at the door," Wele ganwyd y Messia," Moliant am eni'r Messia," Seren Bethlehem," "Let the King of Glory in," Wele'n wir ddirgelwch gwiwlan," Crist ddaeth i'r byd." Six of the Carols having been sung, Hymn 559, Duw mawr y rhyfeddodau maith" (to "Hudders- field "), was sung, the congregation heartily joining. Then the remainder of the Carols were proceeded with. Hymn 589 (to the tune 1, Lausanne") was taken as a recessional. The Benediction was then pronounced by the Rector (Rev T. R. Ellis, M.A,), who officiated through- out the Service. The Carols were sung by Miss Maggie Jones, Tygwyn Cottages, Conway, who accomplished her part in a commendable style and also by Messrs J. T. Jones, M. Parry, Robert Jones, and O. Trevor (Conway), assisted by the Choir. It may be mentioned that the Christmas- Day Service was enlivened by the singing of a few choice Carols specially selected by the Organist, Mr Moses Parry, whom we are glad to congratulate on his marked success with the Church Choir, which still maintains a high standard of excellence and efficiency. THE VALE OF CONWAY CONGREGATIONALISTS. -On Monday afternoon, January 14th, the monthly meeting of the Congregational ministers of the Vale of Conway and the district was held at Conway, under the presidency of the Rev D. P. Davies, of Penmaenmawr.—A resolution was passed rejoicing that the Rev W. Kenion Thomas had decided not to leave Llanfairtechan.- The Rev J. P. Evans informed the meeting that the Church at Henryd had secured a plot of land for erecting thereon a manse, plans of which were being prepared.—On the motion of the Rev R. J. Williams (Llandudno), seconded by the Rev D. S. Thomas (Llanrwst), the following resolution was passed :—" That having heard with the greatest abhorence of the Armenian atrocities and with much satisfaction that steps have been taken by Her Majesty's Government towards securing an investigation into the circumstances, we desire to express our conviction that the Com- mission should be a thoroughly impartial one, that civil protection should now be effectually secured for the Christians of Armenia, and that religious liberty be assured to them and that copies thereof be sent to the Prime Minister and the Members for Arfon and the Carnarvon Boroughs."—The Rev W. K. Thomas proposed, and the Rev J. P. Evans seconded, a resolution, which was unanimously passed, in reference to the dismissed railwaymen, and asking the Con- gregational Churches of Arfon to appoint repre- sentatives on the proposed deputation to wait upon the Directors of the London and North- Western Railway Company. CONWAY TOWN COUNCIL. At the Conway Town Council's January monthly meeting called for 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, January 16th, at the Guild Hall, Conway, the Mayor (Councillor Dr R. Arthur-Prichard, J.P., C.C.) presided. The Council is constituted as follows, those present being indicated by an asterisk, the time of arrival being shown within brackets follow- ing each asterisked name :— THE MAYOR: [Councillor DrR. Arthur-Prichard, J.P., C.C.] ALDERMEN (4): -Griffith Jones (2 33). *Hugh Hughes (3.54). *Hugh Jones (2.33). William Hughes. COUNCILLORS (12): ♦Humphrey Lewis (2.33). C. J. Wallace. Charles Drover. *Hugh Jones (2.29). *M. J. Morgan (2.29). Morris Jones. John Hughes. *Edward Roberts (2.29). *R. A. Prichard (2.29). *A. W. Jones (2.29). *J. W. Tosdevine (2 29). Owen Jones. OFFICIALS: Town Clerk: *Mr T. E. Parry (2.29). Borough Surveyor, Ire. *Mr T. B. Farrington, C E. (2.29). Sanitary Inspector: -Mr. D. M. Roberts (2.29). THE SCHOOL BOARD. Councillor Edward Roberts proposed, and Council- lor A. W. Jones seconded, that the minutes of the Council of the 5th December, 1894, be taken as read, and this was agreed to. The Mayor Any remarks, gentlemen ? Several of the members appeared to have left their copies of the minutes of the Council at home, and the Mayor, after repeating the query, "Any remarks, gen- tlemen ? said,—Well if no one else has any remarks to make I will say that, in view of the divergence of opinion between certain sections of the Committee saying they did not demand a poll, and the minutes of the Clerk saying that 8 voted and 7 did not, that the whole meeting be sent by the Clerk to the Educa- tion Department. I don't do it in any spirit, but we are here as upholders of the anti. School-Board, and, in view of that, I beg to move that the whole account of this meeting be sent to the Education Department. Councillor Humphrey Lewis I second that. Alderman Griffith Jones: So long as they are passed, I don't see why we should raise them up again. The Mayor: You see there is a divergence of opinion. Alderman Hughes says I did not put the question, and the Clerk says I said 8 for and 7 against. Therefore I propose that the whole report be sent to the Education Department. Alderman Griffith Jones I think we want a two- thirds majority. The Mayor: No, I beg your pardon; it is on the minutes. Alderman Griffith Jones: I beg to move that we don't. Councillor Dr Morgan I can't make out what you mean. Do you mean to send the minutes as Mr Parry has them down ? The Mayor: No the whole correspondence of the minutes from first to last. The whole minutes, with the whole correspondence about the Education Department, be sent to the Education Department. Alderman Hugh Jones Since when ? The Mayor Since the beginning. Alderman Hugh Jones I beg to second the amend- ment. The Council divided, 3 (Aldermen Griffith Jones and H. Jones; and Councillor Morgan) voting for the amendment, and 6 (The Mayor and Councillors Lewis, H. Jones, A. W. Jones, Tosdevine, and Roberts) for the Major's motion, which was therefore carried. Alderman Griffith Jones That is, the whole corres- pondence ? The Mayor: Yes, the petition, and the whole correspondence. Councillor Morgan Yes, but we decided not to send the petition. The Mayor Yes, I propose that the whole corres- pondence be sent up to the Education Department. Alderman Griffith Jones: Since when? What date? The Mayor Since the original proposition. Councillor Edward Roberts Alderman Griffith Jones was not here on that date, was he ? Alderman Griffith Jones No. Councillor Morgan These minutes were confirmed, were not they ? The Mayor There were lots of minutes confirmed. But this arises on the minutes. THE URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL'S MINUTES. Councillor Humphrey Lewis proposed, and Council- lor A. W. Jones seconded, that the minutes of the Sanitary Council meeting held on the 10th January, 1895, be taken as read, and this was agreed to. The Mayor Any remarks, gentlemen? Councillor Morgan Has the Town Clerk seen about the Ty Mawr Koad ? The Town Clerk: I have got it here. It must be approved-of, and it will be sent-up to-day. The total amount is .£294 13s lid. The Mayor: Will you approve of the Town Clerk's apportionment ? Councillor Edward Roberts: Is it enough to cover ? The Borough Surveyor It is the actual cost. Councillor Edward Roberts: I ask you if it will cover. The Mayor and the Borough Surveyor: That's the actual cost. On the motion of Councillor Morgan, seconded by Ceuncillor Edward Roberts, the apportionment was approved. Alderman Griffith Jones: About this Bridge- asphalting,—how long are these people to keep this Bridge in repair ? The Mayor Were you here at the last meeting ? Aldermnn Griffith Jones No, sir. The Mayor Well, you will find it on the minutes. Alderman Griffith Jones: How many years are they to keep it in repair. The Mayor: Three years I think. At the last meeting we had a letter saying they would put it in proper repair at the very first favourable weather. Councillor Tosdevine What about the house in Mount Pleasant ? The Town Clerk The time for them to clear out, was last night. Mr Roberts (the Sanitary Inspector) has been there and finds that they are still occupied, and, though they are repaired, he believes that they are not fit to be occupied. The Mayor You will take that reply, that orders have been given them to remove P Councillor Tosdevine: Yes. The Mayor (to the Sanitary Inspector): You know you are to proceed now ? The Inspector: Yes, sir. Councillor Edward Roberts We agree that we are not going to take the road at Deganwy over ? The Mayor I think so, unless something comes on the Surveyor's report. Councillor Roberts There is a letter here from Mrs Tritton. Is there anything more to come before us to-day ? The Borough Surveyor I have nothing to bring forward. Councillor Tosdevine I move that the minutes be confirmed Councillor Morgan I second that. The motion was carried. THE GAS AND HARBOUR COMMITTEE. Councillor Edward Roberts proposed, and Council- lor A. W. Jones seconded, that the minutes of this Committee be taken as read, and this was agreed to. The Mayor I ought to state that I had a letter from the Chairman of the Harbour and Gas Commit- tee, that he was sorry to be unable to attend at that meeting or to be present here to-day. Councillor Tosdevine I should like to have a further explanation of this carrying of coals by ves- sels. What is the real reason of it ? The Mayor I don't know what you mean. It is the report of the Gas and Harbour Committee that vessels should carry it. Alderman Griffith Jones We want the cheapest mode of conveyance. The Mayor: And a very good thing too. I know at Pwllheli we used to get it as ballast. (To Coun- cillor Tosdevine) Are you satisfied with that answer ? Councillor Tosdevine Yes. Alderman Griffith Jones: I should like to know can we get the remainder of the contracts delivered here at the same rate. That is, if they can do it cheaper. We don't want to disturb the contract. The Borough Surveyor: I will make the inquiry- The Mayor Any further remarks ? I suppose there is no objection to the signing of the minutes ? Will anybody move that I sign the minutes ? Councillor Edward Roberts I move it. Councillor Humphrey Lewis I second it. The motion was carried. THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. Councillor Morgan I should like to know —— I see from the Treasurer's books we have the astoun- ding report of nearly £ 4000 balance in the Bank. I should like to know what we have to meet that im- mense amount ? The Town Clerk: It is on the minutes. It is X1100. The Borough Surveyor X1223. The Mayor You will fee it on page 119. Councillor Morgan Oh so even if you had collec- ted all that, we should still have a great balance at the Bank against us. It is £ 3813. I think we should do something to diminish the expenditure, or else our rates will be higher than any in the Kingdom. We are getting more year by year. The Mayor That's what we are fighting about. A rate of 4s is not enough a rate of 8s won't clear us. Councillor Hugh Jones: It will be .t5000 after to-day. The Mayor It has been getting higher every year, but nobody will look it in the face. It is all very well to say it for election purposes, but it has been higher for years and years. Councillor Hugh Jones Is there nothing to pay back to us ? The Mayor Yes, about a thousand pounds in round numbers. The Rate-Collector (Mr T. M. Jones) said that about 1250 of the District Rate was uncollectable. Councillor Morgan: I think we ought to stick to the old rule, that the balance should not be allowed to get to more than X1000. Councillor Roberts At page 121, there is Wages, £ 160." We don't know what these are. We don't know what it is, but only the figures. I should like to know what it is. The Sanitary Inspector said that the wages-list referred to by Mr Roberts was based upon last month's wages. Councillor Roberts: Yes, but these are wanted in advance. The Sanitary Inspectors Yes, to cover the different things. Councillor Roberts: Well. is there no possibility of reducing these wages. X160 at this time of the year is too much. The Sanitary Inspector: Yes, by stopping the work. Councillor Roberts Well, you know very well that you don't know what has been spent in different places. The Inspector Of course, I can. Councillor Edward Roberts (loudly): Well, can you tell us what has been spent on the other side ? The Inspector No, I can't tell that. The Inspector here entered into an explanation of his position, showing that it was impossible for him to see every man every day and even hour in the week, and, moreover, pointing out that, even in the case of men whom he did see daily, he had to depend very largely on their own statements as to time. The In- spector added,—I will answer any question you put to me civilly, Mr Roberts. The Mayor: Come, come, now, that's not the way to talk. Mr Roberts is quite right. The Inspector: He is not right, Mr Mayor, in shouting his questions at me in the way he is doing. The Mayor then explained to Councillor Roberts that the Inspector was frequently unable through illness to see all the men, but that he had already explained that to the Committee. Councillor Roberts (proceeding with his interroga- tions) Well, you ask for this money for payments ? The Inspector: You can't expect me to do that unless I am on the other side night and day. Councillor Edward Roberts I did not say that. How many times a week do you see the men ? The Inspector I see them every day. Councillor Roberts You said yon did not see the men for a week. The Inspector: I don't say I have seen these men. Councillor Roberts And you are responsible to us for these men ? The Inspector Yes. Councillor Roberts: Well, in that manner we are paying all this money away without you seeing these men for a week. I am against this thing. The Mayor Well, will you make a proposition that in future no cheque shall be paid- Councillor Roberts: Well, these minutes are not signed yet. The Mtyor: But I signed the cheque yesterday. What you ought to say, is that in future no money shall be paid without a proper balance-sheet. Councillor Roberts Well, I propose that we get an understanding before we pay this money. There is no doubt that we can get the work done for less than this. I propose we don't sign this cheque for 4160, without knowing what it is going for. The Mayor Well, you have the answer, that they are for wages, cartage, etc. Councillor Roberts: Well, where are the details ? The Mayor (to the Inspector): Where are the accounts ? The Inspector The details are brought here to the Finance Committee every month. I base my estimate on those. The Mayor (to Councillor Roberts): Have you anything to propose for the future ? Councillor Roberts It is no use to propose any- thing. It will never be carried out. The Mayor Well, what is your proposition ? Councillor Roberts I have proposed that we don't pay this cheque, but it seems from you that the cheque is signed. The Town Clerk This meeting is a fortnight or three weeks behind time. Last week, I had not a farthing to pay the workmen, and I told the Inspector to make his estimate, and at the meeting I told them about it, and they made the cheque, and I paid the men. „ Alderman Griffith Jones It apgears to me there is nothing in it. If this money is not required, the Inspector won't want it. The Town Clerk The money is in the Bank. The Mayor I can't quite see through the drift of Mr Edward Roberts's idea. He wants to reform it so that the wages-list shall be reformed. But he should give notice of motion that in future this should be done, and to make a proposition to reduce the expenditure in the Committee, aild I think it is perfectly right, for I think we are paying too much wages by a lot. (To Councillor Roberts): Will you do that ? Councillor Roberts said that he would do that with pleasure, and explained that his action arose from his having seen two workmen not working during certain working-hours returned. The Mayor: What about the Bridge Tolls ? The Town Clerk: I don't know whether you will take any notice of it or leave it till the next meeting. Councillor Tosdevine My opinion is that we should advertise and the sooner the better, and I beg to move that we do advertise. Councillor Roberts I don't think we can do any- thing better, and I will second that. We have been trying the Bridge, and we have been trying the Castle, and we are coining back to the same thing every time. I think the best thing is to let it. 0 This was agreed to. Councillor A. W. Jones I would like to ask —— "The application of Councillor Mr Edward Pobprt,4 for a lease of the Shepherd's Garden and Cottages, I have got to propose that Councillor Edward Roberts is first on the list, and I think it is only right that we should entertain the question, and allow Councillor Edward Roberts to have the land, but for the Council to fix the price. Alderman Griffith Jones I was the seconder of Alderman Hugh Hughes's motion That the Surveyor be instructed to prepare a plan of the Garden and Cottage for building purposes (similar to the plan prepared by him of the Ty Mawr property), and sub- mit the same to this Committee, with a view of recom- mending the Council as to the best means of letting the same for building-sites." It is a fact that there has been an application by Mr Roberts a good while ago. Before that, there was one from Mr Hugh Abram, and I think we answered Abram that we wanted his plan, but he did not send his plan and then Mr Roberts came out, and it was proposed in this Committee for Mr Farrington to bring plans, and to let it to the highest bidder. Coucillor Tosdevine: It is quite clear that Mr Abram made an application first, and, as Alderman Jones has said, he did not bring out the suggestion of the Committee, and, therefore, I say, the matter dropped, and Mr Roberts came forward with his appli- cation, and we entertained it. and I beg to second Councillor A. W. Jones's motion that we allow Coun- cillor Edward Roberts to have the land but, as to the price, the Council to fix the price. The Mayor Gentlemen, you have here-there is a proposition by Mr Jones, that the land be let to Mr Edward Roberts, to build cottages on, as per plans deposited. Is it ? Councillor Tosdevine No, we don't refer to plans at all. The Mayor: Oh, don't you ? Any amendment on this ? Councillor Humphrey Lewis Well, I don't .under- stand exactly the proposal. What's the price ? Councillor A. W. Jones My proposition is that I propose to let this land to Mr Edward Roberts for building purposes, for cottages. The plans are de- posited, I understand, but the terms are to be fixed by the Council the price, the terms, to be fixed by the Council. Councillor Morgan Yes, but I should like to ask why should Mr Edward Roberts more than anyone else,—more than myself, for instance. It is most un. just. Mr Abram sent the application first of all, and I beg to correct Mr Tosdevine. Councillor Tosdevine: I beg to refer to the minutes. Councillor Morgan I think so, and I beg to propose that we should ask for plans, and then Mr Roberts and every one else would have the same chance. But to favour any member of the Council, is not right. The Mayor I don't think that that is a fair way of treating it, at all. It is for the Council to decide who is the bona-fide applicant. I think the Surveyor will bear me out that Mr Abram did make an application, and he was told to forward plans. He never did so, and therefore his application falls to the ground, and therefore I say Mr Roberts did deposit plans, and therefore he is in the field. That's my ruling, gentlemen. Alderman Hui/h Jones Mr Abram did apply in January '94, and had no answer. The Mayor Gentlemen, we moved in this Council that every application for ground is made with plans accompanying it. Mr Abram, I believe, was asked for plans. But here I should ask,—Is the builder of the cottages willing to give one to the shepherd on the Morfa ? That's been our bite noir. There is a bogus, bogus, bogus, all the time. We talk of cottages, and there is no cottage for the shepherd. I remember that the bogus has been all the time that there is no cottage for the shepherd, and I think we are talking of getting the Government to build cottages here when we are preventing private speculation, which is far better than borrowing money. So I move that, when Mr Edward Roberts has produced plans, and it is for you to decide who shall have it. Councillor Morgan And there are others that will produce plans. The Mayor: Well, yea. Will you advertise it ? Councillor Morgan If people knew the land was in the market —— The Mayor: Well, every bit of the Corporation land is in the market. Well, it has been proposed and seconded. Alderman Griffith Jones: Is there more than one letter from Mr Abram ? The Town Clerk Yes. Alderman Griffith Jones Whose is the first letter ? The Town Clerk: Mr Roberts's. The Mayor: Well, it has been proposed and seconded. Councillor Humphrey Lewis But It seems to me that the price is not settled. The Mayor After granting it, you can settle it. Councillor Morgan Selling land before you know the price Councillor Hugh Jones Granting it; not selling it. The Mayor It is referred to this meeting to fix the price. Councillor Morgan Then Mr Roberts will accept it at any price we fix ? The Mayor: I don't know. It's a reference, from the Estate Committee, to fix the price. It seems to me the Finance Committee have referred it to this Committee to fix the price themselves. Councillor Humphrey Lewis No, for the minute says 2 members voted for the amendment, and 2 for the original motion." The Mayor: Yes, the recommendation is that so and so. and that we should fix the price. Alderman Griffith Jones I should like to refer it to the Committee. Councillor Hugh Jones: Well, it has been long enough now. The Mayor: The question is whether you will fix the rent, or whether Alderman Jones' proposition that it be referred back. Now. gentlemen, let's get to business. It has been proposed and seconded and so and so, and that this Committee settle it. Alderman Griffith Jones I propose that the matter be referred to the Committee. Councillor Hugh Jones: I should like to know what Alderman Jones has to say for himself. What's the matter that it should be referred back ? The Mayor Look here. The proposition is evid- ently here. Councillor Morgan: What objection have you to make plans and fix prices first ? The Mayor: Plans have been deposited, and the question is whether we grant it to Mr Edward Roberts or not, according to the plans, and there is another proposition that it be referred back to the Committee, but I hear the great objection is that there is no cottage for the shepherd. Alderman Griffith Jones The question is, what's the rent for the shepherd. The Mayor: That is for the Estate Committee. Aderman Griffith Jones: Are we to understand that he gets his cottage free now ? The Mayor: He has said now, yes. Alderman Griffith Jones Then it follows here that whovever will get it The Mayor: He can make his condition. The pro- position is, that Mr Edward Roberts gets his land for building purposes, subject to plans deposited, and that the rent be fixJd, and that the condition be that the shepherd get onr of them. Now, gentlemen, is that your view. Councillor A. W. Jones Yes. Alderman Griffith Jones: Quite willing, sir. The Mayor: Who proposes it, gentlemen ? Let's get on, so that there will be no quibbling. Councillor Morgan: There is an amendment to that The Mayor: Yes, that it should be referred to the Committee. Councillor Morg in: I second that the whole thing be referred to a Committee. The Mayor: I will put the amendment first. Those for the amendment? One, two, three. Those for the original motion ? One, two, three. A general conversation ensued after this for a time, whereupon the Town Clerk said,-fhree voted for the amend meat, and three for the original motion, Mr Mayor. The Mayor then gave his casting-vote for the original motion. The Mayor In itself, gentlemen, understand that the whole thing lies in a nut-shell,—that it be subject to plans, and that the question of the Shepherd's Cottage be referred bick to the Estate Committee. COMMON-LODGINGHOUSE. The Town Clerk read a letter from Mr Blundell, who said that he understood from last week's Weekly News that it was the desir.) of the Council thit he should cease keeping the house in Chapel Street as a common-loiginghouse. He wished to say that he would discontinue, as from that date, to keep it as a common-lodging house, and he might say that it was his intention to make certain alterations in the house and afterwards to ask the Council to re-register it in his own name. Councillor Edward Roberts: I propose that w don't take any proceedings this time. Let him off, because it is his first offence, and, if he is going to make satisfactory alterations, I am not against him, myself, going there. The Sanitary Inspector said that Dr Fraser had ex- amined the houses, and had said that they ware unfit for the purpose, and that he did not see how they could be made fit. Neither did the speaker. Councillor Tosdevine There is a resolution here, that proceedings should be taken. I don't see wa can alter it. The Mayor No, we should have rescinded that first. The question is,—Are we to carry out the ins- tructions to proceed against the offender. Alderman Griffith Jones: I beg to second Mr Edward Roberts. The Mayor The instructions have been to issue a summons, but the summons has not bden issued, pending our decision upon this letter. But don't let us forget, gentlemen, our legal standpoint. This thing will come again, and three convictions will be quite enough for us not to grant this license. The Town Clerk suggested that Mr Blundell should be told that the house was not fit (and could not be made fit) to be used as a common-lodginghouse. [Hear, hear], and this was agreed-to. The Mayor The understan iing is, that if any lodgers be caught there, the summons will issue. DEGANWY DRAINAGE. The Town Clerk said that he had received a reply from Mr Conway on this subject, and he said, I believe the whole cost of drainage done by us at Deganwy was a trifle over X200. We have received from Mr Pilkington, one of the owners, X15 16s 7d; so that the balance is about .£185 odd, which gives the proportion of which Mr H. Lewis, W. Hughes, and I will be liable." The Borough Surveyor: It would stand in this way. They have paid X200, and have received .£15. What they want you to refund them, is to repay .them .£185, less what they have to pay themselves. The Mayor Suppose you were going to drain that place de novo, would you use the same kind of pipes ? The Borough Surveyor Oh, yes, I think so. Councillor Morgan Did we decide that the owners should pay for it, when the drainage was made P The Town Clerk We decided that they should pay for it. The Mayor I beg to refer this question back to the Estate Committee, with the recommendation that they ought to get some recompense. [Hear, hear]. I beg to propose that. Alderman Hugh Jones I second that. The motion was carried. THE DETACHED PORTIONS OF THE BOROUGH. The Town Clerk had received the following letter from the Local Government Board "(No. 130, 320 KII), 1894, Local Government Board, White- hall, S.W. 5th January, 1895.—Sir,—I am directed by the Local Government Board to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the Isth ultimo and to state that as they understand the proposal of the Carnarvonshire County Council, it is that two detached parts of the Borough of Conway (the larger part being now partly in the Parish of Conway and partly in that of Gyffin, and the smaller one wholly in the Parish of Gyffin) should cease to form part of that Borough. The Board would be glad to be informed of the views of the Town Council as to this proposal. I am to add that the Board's letter of the 4th ultimo should have referred to the proposed alteration of area, and not proposed extention of the Borough. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, (sd) ALFRED ADRIAN, Assistant Sec- retary. T. E. PARRY, Esg., Town Clerk, Conway." Councillor Humphrey Lewis Th;s is a very simple question, which we have all been against before. The Town Clerk Yes, there is no immediate hurry; I can give the particulars at the next meeting. Councillor Lewis: Yes, but we have been so steadfastly against it. The Town Clerk Yes, but I am afraid you will have to give in. Councillor Lewis Oh The Mayor I suppose we still protest ? Councillor Lewis That's my feeling. The Mayor All unanimous ? Carried. THE DATES OF FAIRS. The Town Clerk reported that some of the Almanacs which had been written to as to the dates of the Conway Fairs had, notwithstanding, given the wrong dates for the Fairs in June, September, and November, the correct dates being June 20th, Septem- ber 13th, and November 15th. The Mayor trusted that the Press representatives would make this known. In answer to a question, the Town Clerk said that the Almanacs he had referred to were Almanac Caergybi" and Miloedd." THE MARKET HALL. The Town Clerk said that the plans were all up in London, and he would take all possible means to have the matter completed by the next meeting. PLACE OF MEETING OF COUNCIL. Alderman Hugh Hughes (who had just entered the Council-chamber) said,—I beg to give notice of motion to rescind the resolution granting a piece of land to Mr Edward Roberts. The Mayor: It is referred to the Estate Committee. Alderman Hughes Is it referred ? Alderman Hugh Jones No, only the rent. Proceeding, Alderman Hugh Hughes said,—After the conversation at the last meeting as to the place being very cold, I proposed that it would be advisable to have this place warmed or to meet at the Town Clerk's Office. The M iyor I think that the Town Clerk's answer was that he could give no answer at all, but that the application must be made to the Board of Guardians. I think it looks very bad mYRelf-mind you, I thoroughly agree with what you say—but I think it looks very bad to leave our own home, though I quite agree with you as to what you say, but I think it would look very bad to go from our own meeting. Councillor Edward Roberts: I propose an amendment. Alderman Hughes: I am in possession of the chair. The Mayor: Yes, so you are. Councillor Edward Roberts: I am sorry you came in, to tell you the truth. Alderman Hughes: I propose it be referred to the Com- mittee. Councillor Roberts: I propose an amendment. The Town Clerk There is nothing before the Committee yet. Alderman Hughes's motion has not been seconded. Councillor Edward Roberts (impatiently): Oh, it's not worth to second it. Everybody else comes here and uses it. Alderman Hugh Jones: I second the motion. Councillor Roberts I beg to move number sixteen on the agenda, as an amendment. The Mayor: Number 16 and 17 are both the same, I take it; and Alderman Hugl-es will be quite satisfied if the room is warmed. Alderman Hughes: Oh. yes. The amendment was then put to the meeting and received 4 votes, 4 voting for the motion also. The Mayor: Well, I will give my casting-vote for it to remain on the table, gentlemen. Alderman Hughes: Have you passed number 15, Mr Mayor? The Mayor: Yes. Alderman Hughes: But, if you will allow me, Mr Mayor, my motion was that the Surveyor should lay on the table plans suowing our position with regard to the Market Hall. Proceeding, Alderman Hughes said that, things being as they were, the Market Hall was a disgrace to the town. It was fit for nothing but to keep rats there, and the stench was such that one could not bear to sit down for a minute. The speaker would like to ask what position they were in as to plans of the Market Hall. The Borough Surveyor said that plans had gone up to London, as had been stated by the Town Clerk. Perhaps Alderman Hughes would remember the cause of the deiay. There was a proposition to take the house adjoining the Market Hall. There was also a proposition to make an armoury. That was not done, and he had to alter his plans twice or three times. Besides, the Local Government Board insisted that there should be a Market Hall in the town in addition to the other places, and, besides, to deal with an old building like the Market Hall, meant an expenditure of 625-11, So there held been reasons for the delay. He had devoted as much time as he could to the subject, and Alderman Hughes, he was sure, would give him fair credit for the fact that he had got a fair amount of extra work out since that matter had been decided on. [Hear, hear.] The Mayor Well, Mr Hughes, have you any more to say after Mr Farrington's answer ? Alderman Hughes: Yes. Since you have been Mayor, we have heard nothing about the Public Hall. There has been a rumour that this room is good enough for one Party in the town, while there is another for the other one. The Mayor: Confine yourself to the remarks Mr Hughes. Alderman Hughes: I am confining myself to the question. It is on the agenda, and I hold you responsible, during your eighteen months of office, Mr Mayor, that there is no Public Hall in this place. [Uproar.] Councillor Humphrey Lewis (contemptuously): Oh well, put me in the same boat. [Laughter, "hear, hear," and disorder.) Alderman Hughes: You're a chip of the same block. [Uproar, and cries of "Order, order."] Councillor Lewis: So I am. The Mayor (exitedly): You should not be personal, Mr Hughes. You should confine Sit down, sit down. Alderman Hughes (defiantly): I will not sit down. Why didn't you call Mr Lewis to order ? The Mayor (loudly): Sit down. Mr Lewis only said "put me in too." Alderman Hughes I won't sit down. [Uproarious cries of "Order, order," during which Alderman Hughes was observed to be still speaking, whilst the Mayor said,—"Next business. I beg to state that Mr Albert Wood-" The rest of the sentence was lost in the noise, and the Mayor, seizing his cap exitedly, and leaving the chair, was understood to say "I declare the meeting over." The next moment all the members left their seats, several of them jangling with each other in the middle of the floor, and Councillor Edward Roberts shouting to Alderman Hugn Hughes, "It's a pity you can't carry everything yourself. The meeting terminated uproariously, and amid mutual recriminations. CONWAY LITERARY AND DEBATING SOCIETY. At the Conway Literary and Debating Society's weekly meeting' on Tuesday evening, January 8th, the President (Mr T. B. Farrington, C.E.) in the chair, it was reported that the question of allowing the proposed debate re the accuracy of the First Chapter of Genesis, had been referred, by the Executive Committee, to the Society. Debate commenced hereupon, and was adjourned to that day week, notices of motion being given as to suspending Rule 2 (which prohibits the introduction into debate of theological matter. Mr Carleton Grant, openning the debate on behalf of Socialism, deprecated the present system of competition and private ownership of land, under which thousands starved in large cities. Under the present system, temperance and saving on the part of workmen, would only result in lowering the rates of wages. The system of state-ownership exemplified in the Post-Office, was a model of what might be done in the way of managing other business were the State to have a monopoly. Mr John Williams (Lancaster-square), opposing, said that for Socialism to be successful, required some new variation of hum in nature. Under the present individualistic system, the workers, vol- untarily working together, had benefiitted them- selves and one another. Any improved condition which had actually accrued under voluntary co- operation, was worth infinitely more than any fanciful schemes spun by metaphysical spiders. Vice-President J. Roger Dawson also spoke of the impracticability of socialism, and advocated, as a palliative (if not a remedy) for the evils the openner mentioned, the cultivation of an intensified feeling of universal brotherliness within national (or rather, imperial) boundaries, so as to bring nearer the realisation of Alfred Austin's Christ- mas Carol" Peace and goodwil 1 'twixfc rich and poor! Goodwill and peace 'twixt class and class! Let old a id new, let Prince and boor, Send round the bowl. and drain the glass Tli it still behind the steely sea That gu-trds our greatness, like It sword, The free-born children of the free May own one law, one land, one lord And never in our midst may sound Discordant voice or threat morose, But every year that circles round May find and bind us yet more close," A motion that the debate on adjournment should be resumed on Tuesday evening, January 15th, having been moved, seconded, and carried (Mr W. Smith, mover of the adjournment, to re- open the debate), Mr Robinson made the final speech of the evening, and strongly opposed Socialism, which, when personified, might be regarded as a liar and a hypocrite, for it was Christianity without Christ. At the Society's meetiug on Tuesday evening, January 15th, Mr Kingston in the chair (in the unavoidable absence of the President and Vice- Presidents), it was decided to allow the proposed debate challenging the accuracy of Genesis i., and to suspend Rule 2 for the occasion. Mr W. Smith (mover of the adjournment) re- opened the debate on Socialism, affirmatively and was followed, negatively, by Messrs E. Brown Jones, E. Loyd Jones, A. Petch, and R. Robinson. On a division, Socialism was thrown-out by a majority of five. Next Tuesday evening, January 22nd. Mr J. R. Furness will read a paper on the resources of the River Conway and their development, and a dis- cussion will follow on the subject. CONWAY-CUM-LLANDUDNO LOCAL GOVERNING BODY. At the Conway-cum-Llandudno Local Govern- ing Body's meeting, at the Police-Stationt. Conway, on Tuesday afternon, January 8th. the Chairman (County-Councillor C. H. Darbishire, J.P.,) pre- sided, and there were also present County-Alder- man Elias Jones, J. P. The Rev R. Jones (Rector of Llysfaen); Mr John Jones, J.P. Mr J. P. Griffiths; Mrs Kneeshaw; and Mr John Owen (Clerk). The boys and girls enjoying bursaries and scholarships, were addressed by several members, and were given cheques for the term's expenses. The Chairman told the pupils to remember that they were only learning how to learn, and that they ought to bear in mind the responsibility that rested upon them (the pioneers from that district) in doing their best, as upon their progress largely depended the ardour with which the question of building a local School would be approached, and in a local School three times the number of pupils would enjoy increased advantages. A hearty vote of thanks was passed to Mrs Kneeshaw, on her saying that she would have very great pleasure in giving £20 (; £ io towards the scholarships for girls, and Lio towards the Building Fund, or in such other proportions as the Chairman might think more desirable). She had received such great kindness from the Chairman and other members, and she always took a great interest in education. LLECHWEDD RURAL DISTRICT COUNCIL. At the Llechwedd Rural District Council's adjourned first meeting, at Plas Bach, Con\ya)> on Friday afternoon, January 4th, the Returning" Officer (Mr T. E. Parry), acting as temporary chairman, announced that the vacancy at Llanehatt had not yet been filled. The eight elected Coun cillors were all present. On the motion of Mr Daniel Phillips, seconded by Mr W. F. Jones, County-Councillor John Davies was unanimously elected chairman rdr Robert Ellis being also unanimously elected Vlce- Chairman on the motion of Mr Richard Jones; seconded by Mr W. F. Jones. Both gentlemen thanked the Council, in brief Welsh speeches. It was decided that the Council's monthly illoot- ings should be held at Plas Bach, at two o'clock on the same Fridays that the Board of Guardians met at their Conway Workhouse Board-room. The Council elected to seats on the Conway a° Colwyn Bay Joint Water-Supply Board County- Councillor Hugh Owen (Llangwstenin) and Messrs D. Phillips(Penrhyn) and Robert Evans (Llysfaej1)* The Chairman (who represents Llansantffrai being ex-officio a member of that Board, all the four parishes rated will be directly represented. To three seats on the Medical District Co' mittee, Messrs Robert Ellis, G. O. Jones, and "■ F. Jones, were elected. CONWAV HORSE-FAIR AND SHOW- A general meeting in connexion with the Conway Horse-Fair and Show, was held, at the Guild Ha > Conway, on Friday evening, January nth, for the election of officers for the ensuing year. The President (Councillor Dr R. Arthur-Prichard, Mayor of Conway) occupied the chair, and there were also present the Vice-President (Mr D. Davies) Councillor Hugh Jones (8ryn-glorianJ> and Messrs G. O. Jones, Merchlyn; R. ElhS: Bryn-pin Llewelyn Jones, Lancaster-square•> Elias Davies, Farm-yard Robert Williams, Med iant, Glaticonvvay and William Jones, Pant-yr Iwrch, Roe-wen. It was unanimously decided that the BOI1 Henry Mostyn be President for the ensuing and, 011 the motion of Mr G. O. Jones, seconde by Mr R. Ellis, it was resolved that Mr J. Davies (Tan-yr-allt, Mochdre) be Vice-President. The meeting then re-appointed its Treasurer (Mr David Jones, Metropolitan Bank, Conway and Secretaries (Councillors J. W. Tosdevine and A. W. Jones), the latter re-appointment being upon the motion of the Mayor, seconded by Mr William Jones.. Mr G. O. Jones gave notice that at the next .tee meeting he would move that a Working ComlUltee be formed. It was decided to hold the next meeting, at the Guild Hall, at three o'clock on Friday afternoon, January 25th. A hearty vote of thanks was accorded the retiring President and Vice-President, who were at the same time warmly congratulated upot1 bringing the 1894 Show to so successful an issue.