Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald and North and South Wales Independent

J— —————— EIV10N LIBERAL AbSOCiATlQh DISESTABLISHMENT PROSPECTS. At the Guild Hall, Cai-uarvon, on S.wurday, the annual mating was held of Emo"- liberal Association, the Pre-'Meat (Air J. Jones Mortis) in the chair. There was a large aitjndaace of delegates, but the number for ttc division ;Jlr Ellis W. Davies) was absent, much to the regret of the meeting, by r^on ot his wiie'J illness.

ANNUAL REPORT, In his annual report the secretary (Mr 0. J. Williams] stated that the results of i:he levision work in the recent courts had been exceeding y satisfactory so far as the fortune of the Liberal party went. It was wo noticeable that of late political meetings had become much more populac than they had hitherto been, and this was regarded as an indication that the counftry was thoroughly alive to impending, important developments. On the motion of Mr William George the Teport was adopted. Tha Treasurei (Mr George Brymer) submit- ted the nnancial statement., which showed chat the Association was on the right side ihoa>r, hear). Messrs Richard Jones (Taiysarn) and Morgan Jones ^LlaJndXyfhi) we'-e nominated for the presidency for the next year, the former being elected. For tha vice preJidency Mr Robert Williams (Rhyd-ddu) was elects.

THE MEMBER'S SERVICES. } The President spoke in appreciative tonne of the services rendered by Mr Tiilis Eavie» during the last Parliamentary session. He had done his b&'t to represent the constituency in a worthy manner, and deserved the thanks of his fellow-countrymen. They all kn.v the difficulties which beset a private member in the matter of legislating, but the questions addressed by Mr Daviea to various members of the Ministry proved him to be alive to the needs of every class in the country (cheers). He moved a vote of confidence in their member, and expressed sympathy with him in his en- forced absence. This was heart!'y agreed to-

OLD-ASE PENSIONS. A resolution of thanks wa-s parsed to tha Government for passing the Old-aJ* Pension Adt, and some of the speakers animadverted upon what they described as the rapacity of aome clergymen in demanding 3e 6d from poor persons for age certaficates..

mSESTABLISHMENT AND UN EMPLOY' MENT. Mr William George, in moving a vote of thanks to the Government for their explicit promise of a measure of disestablishment during the next session, ventured to pay tha* if only the Welsh people were united tney could d6- maffld at least the introduction of a Eisestab- listhmenit Bill in the next iseesion with an un- dertaking from the Government that they would make it a foremost question to be placed before the country at the nextt election. There were, however, difficulties in the way, and many of them came from the friendjs of the Liberal party themselves. He mentioned in particular the danger which arose from the interposition of other questions, such as un- employment, which threatened to swallow up everything else. In England it was known that there was a strong party prepared to forcd "unemployment to the front, but he main- tained that the needs of Wales in that respect were not SO acute as to warrant them in placing disestablishment in the background. They might as well bid farewell to disestablishment if they followed. tha advice of certain Welsh Liberal papers circulating in the constituency. Walon could pride ftself upon the fact that she had always fought for ideals which represented justice, and! not for measures calculated to bring about material benefits only (hear hear.) Mr fellis W. Roberts (LJanllyfni), in second- ing the resolution, remarked that he was sec- ond to none in his desire to stand firm to ideals, but if a proof of Welsh nationalism meant adherence to ideals only and the ignor- ing of what were essentially bread and butter <pf€«tions, he feared that he was not much of a nationalist yhear hear). He had no doubt that by a united and determined effort Wales would. Secure disestablishment at an early darte (cheers). On the motion of the Rev- Ceidiog Robotts a resolution was passed requesting the Government to take means for dealing with •the unemployment question, either directly or indirectly throuiji local councils, at the ex- pense of the Treasury, by carrying out public improvements of a permanent character .ad passing a Land Valuation DiI.

PORTMADOC PETIT SESSIONS. The fortnightly police court was held on Friday, beiore m. Samuel Griffith, and other magistrates. For being drunk and disorderly at Port- madoc on 'Saturday, .Simon Jones, Prenteg, and Richard Goodman, Beddgeiert, were each iined 10s and 8s 6d costs. P.C. Jones [19) proved the case. For riding a bicycle without a light, Griffith Roberts, Beddgeiert, was fined ids 6d and costs. Laura John. of Portmadoc, summoned her husband, Thomas John, for failing to contri bute towards her maintenance, he having been ordered at a previous court to pay 10s a week. —The Clerk (to defendant) Have you any questions to ask her?—Defendant: No, she is telling too many lies.—Defendant was sent to prison for a month with hard labour. P.S. Jones (13) charged Edward 'Roberts, of Penmorfa, with having been drunk in Back Madoc-street. He was tined, 2s 6d and costs, or a fortnight's imprisonment in default. Mary Jones., Bower-street, Rhyd-ddu. wife of Wm. John Jones, was charged bv W R. Roberts, inspector under the R.S.P.C.C., with having ill-treated her stepson. Robert Lloyd Jones, aged 11. Mr. T. Garth Jones (for Mr John Humphreys) appeared for the R.S.P.C.C., and Mr. William George defended. For the convenience of Mr. William George, who was only instructecliat the last moment, the hear- ing was adjourned for two hours. Mr. Garth Jones, in his opening, said the stepmother so ¡ ill-treated tho boy that he left home several times.—Inspector Roberts said that in conse- quence of oomplaints, he went to see the boy on July 28th. He had now left his home and was staving with his grandmother at Wa.en- fawr. fi\:e miJe. from Rhyd-ddu. He found the bov well nourished, rather inclined to be thin and pale-looking his clothes were dean. but rather poor. He was timid nnd verv reluctant to say anything at first. He examined his bodv and ?nund bruises on his lesr. his hip. and his back. Subsequently- he saw the stepmother and told her that the bov accused her of beat- ing and kicking him. She denied these accusa- tions. except to the extent that she kicked him once one day because he had thrown her little child down until he fell against a stone. She was sorry for what had occurred.—Dr. Hughes. Waenfawr. said he examined the hoy. and found manv brmsps on his le? and Tr'« back, :J.<: if from blows or kicks or a fell.—H'lnrnbrey Roberts snid h" sn"- the mother kink the bov.— Cross-examined The bov was n bad bov. nnd +Vie woman \1" n ('lp:11' "fY'1.. {She. ml1d have been in a had1 fprrmer that t!pv 0" --1", world not have done what ^e d,r'.—Mr. William f'^Tcp th::Jt + ("'<:1' d-d no* come nndPT f|->D Crnoltv of Children .^rf. was no evidence r^ovir"T th:1t th" in charge 01' tbo. eo:1rl. Tho f1thp.. ''Vod it nnYf1P (''l fVlci fjq + oc rot t1, allrt-1-pd, "^1 fTw Bench upheld this v'^w and the case.

In thi remarkable fneech delivered by the Chancellor of the Exchequer at S^-an=ea, on the 1st inst., that strenuous yonnc Statesman «fi,id • "It is trl1" that men cannot live by bread alone. It if equally true a man cannot live without bread." n mi-crM. n=-efnT)v be added. AND THE MORE NTTRTTI^T'S THE BREAD THE BETTER. The modem craze for starchy white bread is not makin" the most of Nature's great gifts to man. The bread made from Seatree's B"own Flour 'w^n^ns all the nutritive components of the boot Wheat,, and forms the bases for the healfh'est daily diet for rich and poor, iplease ftpn'y to yonr JUko or Flour Dealer.

PWLLHELI TOWN COUNCIL PROPOSED THAMWAY EXTENSION. A meeting of the Pwllheli Town Council was held on Wednesday evening, the Mayor (Alder- man William Antnony) presiding.

CONDOLENCE. On the*notion of the Mayor, seconded by Dr. Evans, a vote of condolence was passed with Mr. John Ellis, the borough accountant, on the death of his wife.

AN APPLICATION. A letter was read from Mr. J. (Parry Jone^s, auctioneer, asking permission to hold a sale in the Market Hall in November. He was willing not to conduct his sale until the market was over. Some of the members argued in favour of allowing the Town Hall to him for the purpose, but after a short discussion it was decided to let him have the Market Hall at the ordinary fee. but he would not be allowed to open his sale till four o'clock.

PROPOSED TRAMWAY EXTENSION. The Tramways Committee reported having considered at some length the proposal to ex- tend the present Corporation tramway along Churton-street to the West-end, as well as sug- gested arrangements for the construction and working thereof, and the committee re- commended that the town clerk be authorised to make further inquiries with a view to the matter being definitely considered at the next meeting. The report was adopted.

PANORAMA WALK." A letter was read from the 'Vaynol Estate Office stating that JE40 would be accepted for the freehold of this property conditionally, and that Mr. Harding would arrange to see the town clerk with regard to the conditions to be imposed

FIRE BRIGADE. Correspondence with the Royal Insurance Company, with regard to their refusal to make anv payment in respect to the' use of appli- ances and supply of water in connection with the fire at Mr. Denman's place was considered, and the Sanitary and Bye-Laws Committee re- commended that' the question of charges for the services of members of the brigade be further services of members of the brigade be further considered before any claim is made for ser- -vio^s Tendered in coimection with the fire. The report was adopted

SEWERAGE SCHEME. A certificate in favour of Mr. J. Riley, con- tractor, for JB400, was sumbitted from the en- gineer, and it was resolved to pay the amount. In committee a letter was read from the engineer reporting that the contractor was pre- pared to go on with sections 2 and;) of the original scheme. Attention was also called to thè nature of the work carried out on certain parts of Section 1. and the matter having been discussed at considerable length with Mr. Oed ge the committee recommended that the latter, with the borough surveyor, be requested to further confer with regard to the matter, and that the engineer be authorised to take all neces- sary steps for the protection of the Corpora- tion in the matter. This report was also adopted.

THE NEW SURVEYOR. The new surveyor (Mr. C. L. Roberts) will enter upon his duties here on Nov. 23rd, and Mr. Cunningham has expressed his willingness to continue his services until Nov. 25th.

ISOLATION HOSPITAL. A letter was read from the Local Govern- ment Board with regard to the provision of isolation hospital, and it was resolved that the matter be deferred for further consideration.

WATER COMMITTEE. It having been reported that the extension of the new sewer to the extreme boundary of the borough in Abererch-road had been pro- ceeded with, it was thought desirable that ,he water main should also be extended so that the sewers could be effectively flushed. The Surveyor estimated the total cost to amount to J3140, and it was resolved that ap- plication be made to the Local Government Board for sanction to borrow the sum of £140, for the purpose of such extension.

LLEYN RURAL COUNCIL. The monthly meeting of the Lleyn Rural Dis- trict Council was held on Wednesday, Mr. W. E. Williams {chairman) presiding. A complaint was made that the gates fixed by the L. and N.W.R. Company, at Ynya Station, had for the past week been closed on the road in the night-time, and not on the lailway, as was the previous custom.:—Mr. Owen, Ynys, said that if anybody wanted to pass that way in the night he would have to call the stationmaster up.—The Chairman Is the same done at Llan^ybi Station? Mr. Uwen: 1 do not know.—The Council instruct- ed their clerk to write to the company with regard to the matter. A letter was read from Dr. Owen, the newly- appointed medical officer for the South Car- narvonshire district, stating that he could not see his way clear to reside at Pwllheli. He had decided to reside in Criccieth, but if he saw that he could not do his work effectively whilst living there, he would re-consider his deci- sion. Capt. Williams, Nevin, proposed that the salary of Mr. G. R. Williams, the Nevin water- rate collector, be increased by £ 20.—Mr. Rich- ard Jones, Nevin, seconded.—'Mr. Parry, iPen- ilwyn, proposed, and Mr. Humphrey Griffith seconded, that the Council allow him an in- crease of £5 only.—The question was then put to the vote and the amendment was carried by a large majority.—The Chairman: He will be allowed an increase of £5 per annum.—Capt. Williams I protest against your action. The collector really deserves the increase origiraffly proposed.—Mr. Richard Jones also thought it unfair that the Council should have acted thus towards a good official. The Clerk reported that the sum of JB148 14s 6d had been received under the Agricultural Rates Grant. Correspondence was received from the County Education Aiwthorifcy respecting "he aeverai roads leading to the Llidlardiau Council School, which were described as being in a very bad condition. The Education Authority hoped t he Council would improve the roads as soon as possible.—The Surveyor explained that the roads in question were not the roads of the Council.—The matter was then dropped.

PWLLHELI COUNTY COURT. Tuesday, before Judge William Evans. On behalf of Mary Jones, 1, Lime-street, Trevor, widow of the late Robert Usual Jones, a workman employed by the Welsh Granite Company, Trevor, who met with a fatal acci- dent at the quarries, Mr. Hamlet Roberts made an application for the payment of a certain sum of J3251 3s 9d, already paid into court by the company. The application was granted. William Turner, who said he was in service at the Mitre Hotel, iPwllheli, owed a small debt to Messrs. Baird, tailors, Portmadoc.— His Honour Are you an ostler at the^hotel?— Defendant: Yes. ii, you call it an ostler.—What do you earn?—Four bob a week—(laughter)— and grub (laughter).—He was ordered to pay 1s a month. Mr. Alfred Ivor Parry, solicitor, Pwllheli, sued F. Pink, of London, for £4 10s 3d. money lent. Mr. Evan H. Davies, for the defendant, asked for an adjournment, as defendant was laid up. Mr. Parry objected, and after evi. dence, judgment was entered for plaintiff, stay of execution for two weeks being granted to enable defendant, if so advised, to apply for a new trial.

Mr. Sellon, and directors of the Llandudno and Colwyn Bay Light Railway Company, have informed the Rhvl Urban Council that the.com- nanv will be in a position to construct a light railway between Rhyl and Prestatvn immedi- ately. if the Council agrees to the scheme. They will be prepared to take electric current from the Council.

FESTINIOG GUARDIANS ¡ DOCTOR REFUSED AN INCREASE OF SALARY. The fortnightly meeting was held on Tues- day, Mr. Owen Jones presiding. Relief paid during the past fortnight totalled £.263, representing an increase of £16 on a year ago.

LADY GUARDIAN COMPLAINS. Mrs. Casson complained of the failure of the Festiinog relieving omcer pir. Vv. liiomas) to giVe her aaequai-e notice 01 the arrival oi a itestiniog boy whom the Ouaruians had agreed ta board out at liarn, and wiiom she consented to ta^.i liom Portmadoc to his new home. A few days' notice should be given, but stir only received a postcard an hour or two beiore the Doy arrived. This showed a lack of courtesy on the part of jll". 'l'nomas, and it also meant that Met (Mrs. Uas.von) had to show a gross lack of courtesy to the lady who had agreed to rear the boy. This lady should have had at least two or three days' notice to make the I necessary preparations, but she (Mrs. Casson) had to drive the boy there without any notice whatever. She had reason to complain of Air. Thomas a short time before. She arranged with him to brlllcrl another child to be boarded out from 'Festiniog to the workhouse a month ago. bhe. plrs Casson) could not come herself, but sent somebody else with a carriage to the work- house, only to find that Mr. Thomas had not brought the child.—'lhe Relieving Officer said he spoke to Mrs. Casson about the matter at the last Board meeting, and said he intended bringing the boy down on Monday or Tuesday. Mrs. Casson told him Monday was inconvenient to her. He then arranged to bring the boy on Tuesday, and sent a postcard to Mrs. Casson.— The Chairman But you only sent the post- card on a Monday, to reach Mrs. Casson on the Tuesday. That is what she complains of.—The Relieving LMiicer It was understood when I spoke to Mrs. 'Casson at the Board meeting that if nothing came; to stop me I would bring the boy down on the Tuesday. With regard to the second complaint, he had made the best arrangements he could, but the grandmother of I the child failed him. Mr. Thomas, who lives at Llan Festiniog, went on to explain that he arranged with the grandmother to bring the child, aged two years, to the Narrow Gauge Station at Blaenau Ffestiniog. She did' not do this, however, but on his way by train from Llan to Blaenau, the grandmother appeared at Manod Station with two children, one aged two and one aged 14., She had brought no one to take charge of the children, and obviously he could not take the little ones himself.—Mr. W. Williams and Mr. Richard Williams confirmed the officer's explanation regarding the grand- mother, and the latter said that somebody had put it in the head of the grandmother that she was not to help the relieving officer in any way.—The Chairman said that Mrs. Casson did I quite right in drawing attention to the cases. Alluding to the outside interference with the grandmother, the Chairman condemned such in- terference in strong terms.

I A FARiCE. I The Chairman commented on the raising of relief cases which had recently been dealt with by the Revision Committees, and said actions of this kind reduced the work of the Revision Committees to a farce.—Mr. Tegid Jones said he was convinced that such committees were a farce.—The Chairman retorted that good and thorough work was done by the Festiniog district Revision Committee, despite the regu- lar absence of Mr. Tegid Jones.—Mr. Tegid Jones: The last committee was attended by only five out of twelve members. He added that he did not dispute that the chairman was quite ready to do all the work of the Board himself.

UNDUE KINDNESS. Application for relief was made by a woman in the Tremadoc district, whose husband had gone to prison in default of paying under a separation order granted by the Portmadoc magistrates.—Mrs. Casson expressed the opin- ion that the Portmadoc magistrates had exer- cised undue kindness in granting the order.— It was resolved, on the proposition oC Captain Morgan Jones, seconded by Mrs. Caisson, to leave the matter to the discretion of the re- lieving officer.

DOCTOR AND HIS SALARY. The Finance Committee recommen^d that in view of the trade depression the Guardians refuse the application of Dr. J. R. Jones, the workhouse medical officer, for an increase in salary.—This was agreedl to on the motion of Captain Morgan Jones, seconded by Mr. Vaughan.—At the committee meeting an amendment by Mr. Fowden Jones, to increase the salary by j35, was not seconded. I

A COUNCIL'S CLAIM UNSUCCESSFUL ACTION FOR FORE- SHORE RENTS. At Pwllheli on Tuesday, Air John Hum- phreys, on behalf of the Cnccieth Urban Council, claimed rents for a boat shed and posts kept by Wm. Edwards, boatman, on the foreshore a.t Criccieth, £1 5s in respect of the ehed and 16s in respect of the poelts. Mr Humphreys said that the ground rent had, al- ready been paid into court, so it was not in dispute. With regard to the boat shed the Council had taken proceedings against the de- fendant for rent three yeans ago, and acting under advice, he had paid the claim. There- fore he failed to ee^ how the defendant could hope to resist the present action. Morris Williams, surveyor to the Oriccieth Council, in his evidence, said that the defen- dant had held these plots of land for several years. In 1905 he was put in court for ground rent, and in respect of the rent for the land covered by the boat shed. No rent was paid in reapect of the posts. Notice was given thaA unless rent was paid the posts would be re- moved by the Council. Witness subsequently removed them, but, a few minutes afterwards, the defendant replaced them. Notice was subsequently served upon defendant that rent ■w«*ld have to be paid, and later the Council passed that he was to pay a rent of 7s 6d per post for the three posits.' Cross-examined, witness said there were two sheds. One of these had been put up by the defendant's father, and it was in respect of this that the defendant had paid rent. There was a winch on the land near where the post bad b^en placed. Defendant had not paid rent either for the winch or for the oosts, and until 1S06 no rent had been demanded. The pro iperty was vested in the Council by Act vf Par- liament in 1873. The Parliamentary plans w?;c produced, and, witness identified part No. 2 on the plan. Hfe admitted that the colouring of No. 2 showed property down to high water mark. !AIr Davies then read to the witness section 25 of the Criccieth Improvements Act 1873, which is in t.he<& terms: ''Subject to the pro- visions of this Act the Local Board shall main- tain and keep the lands specified in parts II. and IV. on the schedule of this Act annexed as open dlaces of public recreation for the. in- habitants OIf the diiitr.ct, and shall not build on the same or suffer the same to be built on." Witness said that the erections of the defen- dant had been placed on the foreshore and not on the land identified as part II. He could not say whether the Council had obtained the convevance from the Crown of the ground upon which the winch and. the pests had been eiec- ted. Upon this evidence Air Davies submitted that the proceedings o £ the Council were "ultra vires." The description of the property con- tainei in part H. of the schedule of the. Adt easd that the land was bounded on the south by Cardigan Bay and on the oast by the Castle •grounds, and this conclusively proved that all propertv right up to high water mark was In- cluded within the meaning of the restrictive section of the Act of Parliament, whereby the Council were debarred from building upon land o s tiling the game to be built, upon. Air H u .anhrevs contended that the land on which CO" posts were la;d was foreshore. The land wa.- appertaining to that, which had been vested t the Council by the Act of 1873, and this foreshore was not subject to the restric- tions i svd by section 75. Air Humphreys further submitted that inasmuch as the defen- dant ha-, paid the claim of the Council three yearf (12', be was estopped from contesting the preee>n(. 'aVn. Air Davies argued that" if this were so i he defendant should only be estopped in eo far as the ciladin related to the boat shed. No rent had been paid three years ago, or at any time in resipedt of the winch or the three posts.—iAIr Humphreys, in reply to his Honour, admitted that this was the case. In reply to a further inuiry he said he be- lieved that the winch had been there from time immemorial. No rent had; beenpalid at any time for the winch and pests. (His Honour held that the defendant was estopped in so far as the boat shed was con- cerned, and there would be judgment for the Council for the amount claimed. In regard. to the claim for rent in respect of land occu- pied by the winch and three posts it was clear that the Council were precluded from main- taiming their claim, and there would be judg- ment for the defendant.

PORTMADOC COUNTY COURT Wednesday, before his Honour Judge Wm. Evans.

COtMPlEtNiSlATION AWARDS. Robert Williams, Llechwedd, Harlech, a youthful farm labourer, sued Joseph Owen, Rhydyxoerhun, Harlech, farmer, for compensa- tion. Air Gradoo Davies, Pwllheli, who was for the applicant, said he and Mr Louis Jonea for the defendant, had been able to effect a settlement.. The lad met with an accident on March 9th, three of his fingers being cut off by a chaff-cutting machine. An agreement was filed whereby compensation. was paid him for five weeks at the rate of 10s per week. Appli- cant then resumed' work until May, when his term of service expired. iSince then he had been working as gotf caddie earning an aver- age wage oif 56 per week. Iiis farm wage was 176 6d per week. The respondent had. cow agreed to pay him 6s per week compensation from Atay 13th to date, and to provide employ- ment to him henceforth on his farm at £ 6 per half-year, with liberty for applicant to leave at a week's notice- litf he found more suitaible work. The costs agreed upon were four guineas.—The agreement was' ratified. Air Louis Jones applied for payment out otf Court of £ 130 paid by Lord Hiarleeh in respect of the death of John Evans, Fucheswen Bach, Talsarnau, who met. with a fatal accident whilst working at Glyn Hall. Mr Jones ap- plied for payment to the widow, Jane Evans, who was the sole dependent. — His Honour granted the application.

EUfRTHfER ADJOURNED. The case of John Owen Jones, Aladoc-street, draper, v. Margaret A. Owen, East-avenue, which has been adjourned twice, was further adjourned fotr adidjfcional evidence. |A1^ W. (Morris Jones was for the plaintiff and M? Louis Jones for athe defendant.

ORDER FOR A SALE. EUig RoIberts, OJogwyn, Nantmor, farmer, sued Ann Seas-ell Jones, Syt-un, Fawr, Bedd- Igelait. ffor.29 7s 2d principal and interest on promissory note Bigned by her deceased hus- band, and a man llamoo. John Evans.—Mx Wil- liam George, who was for the plaintiff, said the mattwr had been before the court before. Ap- parently there- was no pensonal estate left, but there was real estate. An offer had been made by Mr Jones Morris, on behalf of defendant,'but being considerably less than the creditor antici- pated, was declined. Hiis application now W88 for an order to sell the real estate. There waa oonside.ralble realty, but there was a mortgage. -The application was granted,, Mr W. George to have conduct of the sale.

DAVEOElS1 v. AK>RRIIS. Florrie G. Davies sued Bran Morris, Steam Laundry, .Bilaenau Festiniog, for £4 188, balance of wages as an employee at the laun- dry.—iAIr Wim. George was for the plaintiff, and Mr J. Jones Aloms for the defendant, who admitted a balance of Dl 6s, and alleged that plaintiff had received more than she had given credit for. Plaintiff, on the other hand, de- clared she waa sure that she had only received the amount she stated- — The case occupied eome -time, evidence being also given by the defendants wife.—(In the result judgment was given for plaintiff for ,£)1 15s.

WHLLIAAIIS v. THOMAS. John E. Williams, general merchant Pen- Thamaf Thomas, School-street, Pan- rhyn, stoker on the Festiniog Railway, for J51 16s for goods supplied.—<Mr Randal Casson was for the plaintiff, and Mr Louis Jones for (the defendant, who said that the goods had wen supplied to his mother and not to him. j/lairutiff said, before supplying the goods, he told defendant that he would have to be re- sponsible for payment, inasmuch as his mother was a pauper. He declined to give credit to pauperis.—Defendant, giving evidence, said he was simply a lodger.—The Judge: It is im- possible^ to be Iboarded by a pauper.—Defen- dant said he paid her 112a a week. He did not recollect the interview alleged by plaintiff. When under cross-examination by Air Casson the delfendant was told by the Judge that he should be pleased to pay his mother's debts. Air Casson was about to call another witness when the Judge said he had heard enough. Ho gave judgment for the full amount claimed.

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QUARRY COMPANY SUED I STRAXGE STORY CONCERNING AN AGREEAIENT. John Jones, of Buarth Lwyd, Pi sty 11, near Nevin, sued the Welsh Granite Company, at Pwllheli on Tuesday, for 9s a week compensa- tion. Mr Evan R. Davies appeared for the applicant, and Mr J. T. Roberts, Carnarvon, appeared for the Company. Mr Davies said that his client was employed as labourer at the quarry, and earned 3s 4d a day. He met with an accident in August, 1904, and the Company agreed to pay 9s 8d compensation per week. The Company paid a lump sum of 50s, and subsequently paid 19s 6d every two weeks. By the accident applicant lost his right eye. He did not work for six months, and during that period he underwent treatment at a Liverpool hospital. When he got fairly well he returned to the quarry, and was employed there at the same wages as be- fore the accident. Later, applicant was ap- proached by Mr Rowlands, a manager of the defendant Company, ivvith regard to the pay- ment to him of a lump sum. The applicant stated that he did not want a lump sum. Sub- sequently, however, he agreed to accept. J320 on the understanding that he was kept con- tinually in work by the Company. Air Row- lands handed him a document, and he was told that it was a receipt for JB20. Ho continued in the service of the Company until July, 1907, when he was dismissed. Applicant en- tered into correspondence with the Company, but to, no purpose. For the defonce, Rowland Rowlands, sub- agent, denied that any promise was made as to giving work to the claimant, and nothing was said about the £ 20 being a present. Appli- cant was dismissed because there was no work for him at the quarry. His Honour held that the agreement was valid, and gave judgment for the defendants.

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CARNARVON HARBOUR TRUST 1 PROSPECTS OF A HARD WINTER. The monthly meeting of the Trust was held on Tuesday at the Harbour Offices. Air. Harry Ciegg (chairman) presided. There were also present: Messrs. J. Issard Davies (vice-chair- man), G. R. Rees, T. Morgan Lloyd, R. New- ton, R. Gwyneddon Davies (Mayor), T. Arm- strong, A. Carter, O. JOines, Edward Roberts, C. Wawn, E. Hughes, W. Hamer, J. W. Wyatt and T. Owen; together with Air. C. A. Jones (solicitor), W. Bowen Jones (surveyor) and H. Owen (collector).

THE LATE AIR. M. T. MORRIS. Tke Chairman referred to the death of Mr. Al. T. Morns, who was elected a member of the Hoard on the 3rd September, 1889. By the dieath of Air. Aiorris, who was present at th» last meeting of the Works Committee, the county and town of Carnarvon had sustained a great loss. He was a gentleman universally respected, and was always to the fore in every good work. He moved a vote of condolence with the- family in their bereavement. The motion was passed in silence.

NEW MEMiBER. The Chairman paid that it gave him great pleasure to welcome iMr. Edward Roberts, a new member. Air. Roberts remarked that he was very. proud of the honour conferred1 upon him by electing him a member of that very ancient institution, he presumed, the oldest in Carnarvon. What- ever they could do to advance the interests of the country, and the town of Carnarvon in particular, he would be very pleased to render his humble share. If simply regular attend- ance at the meetings would do it, he did not think he would fail on that account (hear, hear).

SUB-COLLECTOR. Air. Lewis Williams was appointed sub-col- lector at Portdinorwic, in place of Mr. James Hughes.

LLANDDWYN PILOTS. A letter having been read from Trinity House, in reply to communications from the Trustees, re the appointment of a fourth pilot, it was resolved th'at a letter be sent to the sub-commissioners forwarding a copy of the letter received from Trinity House, and asking for their views on the matter.

IN THE BANK. It was reported that there was a balance of £1,162 in the bank.

THE TRUST PROPERTY. At a meeting of the Works Committee a re- port was read by the Surveyor on the condition of Trust property generally. The committee recommended that an expenditure of J3915 be incurred in maintaining and repairing the Trust property, the carrying out of which wa^j to be left in the hands of the surveyor. The money was to spent as follows -£300 on seawall re- pairs, J3250 for Droviding new buoys to replace the wooden one, J3350 for dredging, and j315 in certain alterations to tenants' premises. The committee also recommended that j387 be paid annually into a separate deposit account, to be called the steamer renewal sinking fund that £272 16s 8d be paid into the general deposit account, which sum, together with £2,577 3s 4d already placed in that account would make a total of £2,850 10s, being the purchase money received for land sold to the Portmadoc, Bedld- -gelert and South Snowdon Light Railway Co., and that the question of expenditure on new works out of the capital account, be deferred for future consideration. The Chairman said that at a special meeting of the Works' Committee on the 24th October, the affairs of the Trust, so far as their property wag concerned, were fully discussed, and they came to the conclusion that there were certain duties falling upon them to be performed, which might give employment to some extra hands. They felt that they must, as far as they could, see that their property was kept in first-class repair. The question of capital expenditure was considered, and! it was eventually decided to defer the matter for future consideration. At the last meeting of the Trust it was said that they were an irresponsible kind of boay, and that, therefore, they had a free hand to do what they liked with the money they had. If they were an irresponsible body, there was the more need to see that the money was properly spent (hear, hear). They were losing from the capital account by the stoppage of rents, which they received nrior to the sale of the land to the Portmadoc^ Beddgelert, etc., Light Rail- way. a sum 01 £91 2s per annum, but if they sanctioned what was being proposed that day a sum of money would be placed in the bank which, at 2^ per cent., would produce £71 5s per year, so that the amount they would lose from income would be JE19 17s per annum. The Alayor wished to know what the com- mittee meant by deferring the question of ex- penditure on new works. Did it mean that the matter was shelved indefinitely? If that was so, it was unfortunate in view of the hard times they were face to face with in Carnarvon. Everybody would agree- Mr. G. R. Rees: I do not for one. The Mayor 1 venture to prophesy that this winter will be a very ,severe winter, and that Mr. Rees will, in April, or May next, lind that his negation has been incorrect. The majority of Carnarvon people anticipated a very nard winter, and! many who were connected with the slate trade thought there would not be any lmpiV>vement in that trade, and that a great number of men would be out of work. If some- thing was to be done it must be done at once. 1\11', J. Issard Davies thought that the Alayor did not wish that the 'lrustees should rush into expenditure on something unproductive. They had set apart J3900 for work. to be done during the winter, and) the money put in the bank "as capital ac- count was not to be there indefinitely. Refer- ence had been made to unemployment. They had had it for the last seven or eight years or more, 'and no doubt it would be with them the next year and. the year after. Unemployment was now more* or Jess chronic, but when the Trust undertook extensive works employment would be given to men. As soon as the money could be employed on something productive to the Irust and the town it would be at once used. Air. Wawn It would be better to invest the money in Consols at 3 per cent. Mr. Issard Da-vies Consols are going down and everything is unsafe. Mr. Wawn They are not likely to go much lower under the present Government (laugh- ter). Mr. J. Issard Davies Don't you make rash promises {laughter). Mr. E. Hughes suggested that stones should be removed from near the new seawalL so that/ vessels, could go there to load and unlo.a,d. The Chairman said! that various suggestions were made at the Works Committee as to how to s'>end the money. They were not a philan- thropic body, and they must look after the atiairs of the port and harbour. Not only Car- narvon, but Portdinorwic and other places were entitled to their attention. It had been suggested that they should have a steam-grap- nler, but that would mean a great expense. However, if the Trustees found that there was an increase of trade to justify the expenditure, the suggestion would no doubt be acted upon. The report of the Works Committee was ad- opted.

CARNARVON BOROUGH SESSIONS. On Monday, before R. Gwyneddon Davies, Esq. (Alayor), and other magistrate*, William Eidwards, Glanymor, was summoned for not attending school regularly.. It was stated that defendant was 12 years of age, but was only in Standard I.—The case was ad- journed for a month to see if any improvement takes place. Griffith Jones iSnowdon-street, was charged with being drunk. He denied the charge, and called a witness to prove that he was sober.— The case was dismissed. For drunkenness. Ann Owen, Coal-yard, Mountain-street, and Robert Williams, North- pen'rjdlt. were fined 2s 6d and costs. Micthael Hughes, aged 13, who stay at the Workhouse, was charged with obtaining 6d by false pretences. He pleaded guilty. The boy was given a good character by his schoolmaster and Capt. Griffith (of the Church Army), and it was stated that it was very difficult for him to lead a proper life in his present environ- ments.—The case was adjourned for a week in order that the magistrates might decide upon an industrial school to send the boy to..

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Portmadoc GOLF.—The monthly golf competition was won on Saturday by Mr W. Wallace Williams. SUCCESS.—Master C. Williams, only eon of Dr Walter Williams, has won a prize for photo- graphy at St. Nimians School, Edinburgh. MASONIC.—All' Llew. Davies, a journalist, has been appointed Worshipful Alaster of the Portmadoc Lodge of Freemasons for the ensu- ing year. OBITUARY.—The death is announced of Airs J. A. Williams, Aleirion House, Portmad- oc, at the age of 63 years. The funeral took place on Tuesday, at Dolbenmaen. OLD AGE PENSIONS.—At a meeting of the Old Age Pensions' Committee on Friday evening, Air J. T. Jones presiding, it was stated that there were 91 applications for con- sideration. The majority of them were granted. LATE CAPTAIN EDWARD JONES.—Par- ticulars of how Captain Edward Jones, of Borthygest, met his death are to hand. It is stated that whilst the main Nail was being heaved up the chain broke, and fell on his head. Death was instantaneous. THE R.S.P.C.C.—On Friday, at the Drill Hall, Air Summers, of the Central Office of the R.S.P.C.C., gave a picture story of the .work done by the Society Mr Oscar Hardy manipulated the lantern, and Air Charles Breese presided. Votes of thanks were ac- corded, on the motion of the 'Rev W. J. Nichol- son, seconded by Air George E. Roberts. LECTURE.—On Friday, at Salem Vestry, under the auspices of the Free Church Teach- ers' Union, an illustrated lecture was given by Mr W'. D. Jones, of Alorfa Bychan. He described the second journey of St. Paul. Mr David Williams, of Ivy House, attended to the lantern, and an address was also given by Air T. J. Jones (Cynfi), on the development of children's minds. COUNTY .SCHOOL GOVERNORS. — A meeting of the County School Governors was held on Friday evening. Air Richard Daviee presiding. The Rev WL T. Ellis, who has been appointed' by the Festiniog Board of Guarding as their representative on the Governing Body was accorded a hearty welcome.—The General "Purposes Cbminiittee recommended the pur- chase of a fire-extinguisher, which was agreed t.o. The F'inantee ;Committee iredomlmended that the school fees should be increased 'from £4 to .£.5 per annum, so as to comply with the regulations of the Board of Education, and that the charge for stationery should be abolished.—This was agreed to, an amendment by Airs Casson to charge £4 6s only receiving two votes.—It was reported that after making all payments there would be an overdraft of £53.-A discussion was introduced by AITS Casson as to whether the new scheme for a higher grade school at Portmadoc would affeat the intermediate echoohs. Mrs CJaeeon did not. think that the scheme would be advantageous, but some of the governors, expressed the opinion that it would be helpful rather than detrimental to the intermediate school.—It f might lessen the number and improve the quality. It was announced that the annual prize distribution would take place in Decem- ber, and that Airs Breese would be asked' to distribute the prizes.

Pwllheli Y.AI.A.—Next Alonday evening, Dr Gwen- ogfryn Evans wil'l address, the memoers of the on the "Beginning of Welsh Litera- ture." HOCKEY. — The County School Girls hockey team played a similar' team from t.he Carnarvon County School, on Saturday after- noon, at home. The homesters were beaten, Carnarvon scoring 6 goals and Pwllheli 2. GIRUS' OUILD.-){emioors,f th-? Guild held a social last week at Ala-road Chapel Schoolroom. At the concert, which followed the chair was taken by Mrs Alorgam Evan6, md part was taken 'by members of the Guild. COUNCIL ADJOURNIEP. — Out of the twelve members wio constitute the Pwllheli Town Council eight a.re members of :he Pen nuounit C.M. Chapel. A meeting of the Coun- cil was convened for Tuesday night, but as » popular lecture was given by Mr Seth Joshua ait the Penmount Chapel on the vune evening, the Town Council meeting was adtourned. to Wednesday ni'ght. MISSION SERVICES.—This week, Mr Seth Joshua, of Cardiff, conducted mission services in the town. Special sermons were delivered by him at the Penmount C.M. Chapel, on Sunday and Monday evenings. Mr Joshua, on Tues- day evening, gave a lecture at Penmount- Chapel, taking for his subject his own life storv. Dr Wynne Griffith presided. DRUNKENNESS. — At a special Police Court on Tuesday, before Wm. Anthony, Esq., Robert Jones, of Beaumaris, who described (himself as an ex-soldier, was brought up cn a charge of drunkenness. The charge was dis- missed on condition that he left, the town in the course of the day. P.C. Thorruis (65) proved the case. FAIR.—On Alonday, a very popular fair was held in the town, and good business was done. Cattle sold at satisfactory prices, but the trade done in horses was only moderate. The fol- lowing were some of the prices —Alilch cows and bullocks, JB14 to £16 10s each yearlings. £9 to JBlO; barrens, £8 to £9; heifers, JB10 to £12 each. Horses fetched from £25 to £35 ^CONCERT.— In aid of the funds of the Ala Road C.M. Church, a concert was given on Thursday, the artistes including Miss Alary King Sarah, Talysarn; Madame Josephine Williams-Lewis, and Misses Tom Edwards and Vincent Jones. The chair was taken by Mr 0 Robyne Owen, solicitor, and in the absence of his daughter, Miss Enid Robyns Owen, the duties of accompanist were discharged by Miss Winnie Jones, of Salem Chapel, and Mr R. E Jones, of Portmadoc. LITERARY SiOPCETCDES. At the Pen- mount Society, on Friday evening, Air W. S. Williams, of the Central Stores. opened a de- bate on "Mesurau Caeth a Rhydd,neu Goronwy ac Islwyn." Mr Wm. Jones, Picton Castle, pmesiidied!. T'hf dielbaic w:as adjourned.—The subject discussed at the Tabernacle Literary gociety on Friday evening was '•Women's' Suffrage." Mr Arthur Lewis opened for the affirmative, and Air H. Jones for the negative. Other speakers included Miss E. Griffith, Messra -Henry Jones, E, Griffith, R. Gwyn «dd Elvans, Powell Evans, and John, Lewis. By a majority of one the meeting declared in favour of Woman's Suffrage.—'Air Robert Ro- berts presided, and a vote of thanks was aG- carded the speakers on the motion of the Rev H. Rees.—To the members of the PeooiLan Literary Slociety on Friday evening the Rev J. Rhvdderch read an interesting paper on "Handel." Master T. Charles Jones, Pretoria House, also gave a recitation. The chairman was Air R. Mason Jones, Carnarvon House.— The Rev John Hughes, B.A., B.D., presided over the last meeting of the Salem Literary SVxiiety, when an address was given by the Rev John Ellis, Minadlt. WRONG MAN SUED. — At the Pwllheli Cotunty Court, on Tuesday, Mr Jones Morrii, Poiltlmadoc, mentioned the case of the Metro- politan Bank, Festiniog, v. Mary Dav es, of Meirion Storee, Nevin, widow, and a relative named Robert Jones. Mr Jones Aiorris, who appeared for the Metropolitan Bank officials, said the case came before his Honour at the Aberystwyth Court, and he now intimated tnat an application for a new trial was -o be made in respect of Robert Jones, inasmuch as two persons of that name, one a jrother of Mary Davies and the other a Ibrother-in Jaw, had ibeen mentioned.—iThe Reibert Jones who ap- peared in court, was the brother of Alary Da- vies, and he was represented by Mr Cradoc Davies—The .other Robert- Jones was in South Wales. The interests of ATlary Davies were watched by Air Alfred Parry.—Mr Jones Aior- ris explained, that Alary Davies wanted a small advance of £6 from the bank, which she got on 23rd May, 1906.—-Air H. O. Parry, Kohcilor, Criccieth, signed a security in her behalf, ard when the bill matured Air Parity euggested to Mr Hughes, the bank manager, that he should be relieved. The bill was eventually renewed, and was signed by one Robert Jones. The bill had been renewed three or four times, ai.d it had been reduced to £4 10s. Application, was made to both parties for the amount, a County Court summons was issued., and judgment went by default. An order was made for tin amount to be paid by monthly instalments. ;=-======:=-- No instalments having been paid an execution order was i^ued. but a stay A-as eventually granted. The difficulty arose"over the two Ro- bert Jones.—Air Rcfoert Jones, the brother, was called, and he said he never signed the bill. Air Alfred Parry stated that it was the othea Robert Jones who signed it.—Air Jones Aior- rie Evidently the wrong man has been sued.—• Air Alfred Paju-y, on behalf of Alary Davies, offered to pay the amount at th? rate of 10s a month.—Air' Jones Aiorris I will accept that.

Penrhyndeudraeth REPRESENTATIVE.—At a meetdng of the Deudractli Council on Tuesday, the chairman <w?,'e's' was appointed representative i?U^ °" the Court) of Governors of the North Wales University College.

Bangor F11RIES.-Bangor during this week has been the scene o,t several fire alarms. On Sunday morning some tons of reeds used, for slate packi mg, stacked at Port Penrhvn, were found to ba on fire. The Pemhyn Castle Fire Brigade was an attendance late at night, when the fire was ecdtiniguished, ■D'ur'ing th-d a>,ftternoon smotk'ei issued in dense volumes from a watchmaker's shop at the bottom of High-street, but on tha shop being entered it was found that the smoke came from the chimney of the next housef through a hole in the wall. On Alonday morn- ing, at half-past six, the Bango'r Fire. Brigade was called to London House, a shop in H lend re- wen-road. The shop wa.s gutted before the firq was extinguished.

Canway DRUNKENNESS.—The following werQ fined for drunkenness at the police court on Monday H. Owen, 3, Brynhyfryd-terrace '1', Jones, Ysgerin Side; Wm. Jones, Lark Hill, Penmaenmawr; and Owen Williams, Talybont,

Deganwy IN ARREARS.—At the Conway Police Court on Alonday, T. Al. Jones summoned H. Dixon for the recovery of J32 Is 4d, general district rate due to the Conway Corporation; while A- R. Temple sued the same defendant to recover £2 5s 6d, poor rate. The usual orders were made. A BAD HABIT.—At the Conway Police Court on Monday, three young men, named R. Jones, Stemyside; H. T. Jones, bright-street, Tywyn; and John Davies, Marine-crescent, were summoned for causing an obstruction on the parapet in the village. The defendants pleaded guilty of standing, but not of causing wilful obstruction. Eividence having bffea f given by P.C. Evan Roberts, S'upt. Reee stated that he had received oomplaints about the practice, and tradesmen had signed a peti- tion on the matter. Each defendant was fined Is and costs. •

Llanrwst AN APPOINTMENT.—Air. Evan Jones, of Liverpool, has been appointed assistant mastee aU !lihe County School, at a salary of JB100 a year. He will commence work during the third week in November. LEGAL SUCCESS.—Air. David Howel Jonea (son of Mr. and Mrs. David Jones, Elwjr House), has passed the preliminary examma., tion of the Incorporated Law Society q* Lon- don, held on the 14th and 15th October last. AN EN11ERTAIN.\fEXT.-There was a larga gathering at the Church House on Thursday, the occasion being a musical and dramatic en- tertainment by the Hon. Lawrence BTodrick, Coed Coch, and party. The proceeds were m aid of the building fund of the Church House, ADJOURNlED.—At the County Court, on s Friday, Air. Lloyd Unffith (solicitor), mention- ed the case of the iGemonydd Rural Council against J. H. and F. W. (ireeoi, to recover the sum of ;t;2,:) 118 3d alleged damage to a. roadi in consequence of extraordinary traffic, i'he case was adjourned pending an appeal in a similar case PERSONAL.—From Vancouver. British Columbia, comes the interesting news that Mr. Lewis Roberts, son 01 Air. VV. Ll. Roberts, oi Avondale, has been appointed instructor to the Columbian Conservatory of Alusic, Van- couver, at a commencing salary of .¿6() per annum, the number ot appli93Jltl! being 34. :Mr. Roberts holds the important position 01 inter- viewer and musical critic to one of the Van- couver daily papers, which appointment he wilj. still retain. TALYGAFN SALE. — Alessrs Robert and Rogers Jones conducted another successful sale I at the Taiyeafn Alart on Monday, where there, was present a large number 01 buyers and sellers. The stock included 70 fat bullocks, heifers, cows, and bulls; 20 calving cows and heifers, 30 store bullocks and heifers, 800 fat cross-bred lambs, 750 fat wethers and ewes, 400 breeding ewes, store wethers, and lam be IS iat pigs and calves. I'at cattle sold up to £18- 156; cows with calves at foot, j319 6s fat lamJbs, 25s 6d fat ewes 25s fat wethers, 243 9d; fat calves, £2 8s; and Iat pigs, £2 2s. Ai'i-C iLlAlxON.—At Conway, on .Monday, Cauierine ^tary iiooerts sougnt, an amuatiun order against U. jja.Vj.es, a iaim lauou^oi, and a iiiarriect man. A stamped agreement, had ueen enterea into beLween tne parties, 0.) which tne deiendant had to contribute Is od a week towards uie maintenance or tne cnrld, but the oomplainant declared that she did not read the agreement, nor was she cognizant, of its terms. —An order or 2s a week and costg was granted. Mr. J. J. Marks appeared ior the complainant. TEST CONO'Elii,.—ir. J. D..Jones, solici- tor, presided over a test concert held at, Eben- ezer on Iharsday. The Rev. Cardigan Wil- liams was the musical adjudicator, while Mr. John Williams (Emyr) aajudicated the recita- tions. Results:—Soprano solo: Miss Alyfanwj; Evans, Lianrwsb, and Aliss Hannah Davies, Blaenau Festiniog, equal. Tenor solo: J. W. Davies, Pentrevoelas. Baritone solo: Ted (J'ones, Blaenau. Festiniog. Challenge solo: D. Charles Hughes, Bettwsycoed. Recita- tion — Morris, Gwytherin. Air. D. D. Parry was the accompanist. A SON'S DEBT.—At the County Court, on Friday, William Hughes, boot and shoe maker, sued Thomas Roberts, cattle-dealer, Trefriw, to recover £4 Is 5d, for goods suppfied to de- fendant's son, who was stated to be of weaic intellect. Air. Twigge Ellis, who -appeared for the plaintiff, said that the son was of age, but depended entirely on his father. The gOqds had been supplied at the insti- gation of the father, who, until now, had paid for what was supplied.. Defend- ant said that he told the plaintiff not to give boots to his son without his orders.—Plaintiff Nothing of the sort. I presented scores of bills to voOu. and you always promised to pay, and had always done so until now\—Air. Twigge Ellis asked for leave to add the son as a third party to the action.—'His Honour Very well. —The son was called, and admitted owing money—he did not know how much—to plain- tiff.—His Honour said that it would be a very serious precedent to hold the father responsible without a written guarantee. He gave judg- ment for the father, with costs, and against the son with costs, the debt to be paid in monthly instalments of 2s 6d.

Colwyn Bay A ROBBERY.—On SEdlurdtiy morning, Mr J. 0, IJones, Station Road tradesman, on goiny to his office, found that the contents of the cash box had been taken. The police were informed, and investigations are being made. J OBITUARY.—The death took place on., Thursday of Aire [Lloyd Roberts, wife of Dr, ( Lloyd Roberts, tnesmere-road. Airs Roiberts was seized with unconsciousness soon after mid- day, and despite the efforts of several medical gentlemen she passed away about four o'clock. Aire Roberts was closely connected with the Colwyn Bay Mission Church. iShe leaves a husband and two daughters. The funeral took place on Saturday at Llanddulas. LIBERAL ASSOCIATION — The first of a series of meetings in connection with th^j Col- wyn Bay and District Libe-al Association -was pcId at the Association Rooms, Se:» V ,ew. on Friday. Councillor Hugh Hughes presiding, when an interesting paper was read by Air Gordon Coulter on '"The Nationalisation of Railways." Mr Coulter dealt with the subject f-om a wide area, and '.orasi "ed the working oi the State railways in other countries w.:h the British system A discussion followed, in •.vliich Mr R. Thomson. J.P., Mr J. Crompton, Air L. M. Burrell, Air S. 'ilynne Jones. Mr David Greenfield. Air Thomas Roberts, and Air T. J. Dowell took part. The voting in favour of nationalisation of it was unanimous.