Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald and North and South Wales Independent

MR. PRITCHARD MORGAN AND MERIONETH GOLD MINING. ADDRESS AT DOLGELLEY. PROPOSED VISIT OF THE HUNCH OF WALES. LAST Friday night, Mr. W. Piitchard Morgan the now eminently pioneer of successful Welsh gold mining enterprise, delivered a vigorous address at the annual meeting of the Dolgelley Cricket Club. Mr. Morga., responding tor the Visitors," said, amid loud applause, that lie presumed to now consider liiou-elf a Dolgelley resident (hear, hear), He had taken up his abode there (applause). He had no occasiou to regret his first visit to this charming neighbourhood, for it had.as.far as he could see resulted in discoverey, which would tend to confer lasting benefit upon the district (loud applause). There was perhaps a felicitous appropriateness in the association of his name with that particular toast. Since he had engaged in the present undertaking at Gwynfynydd he had—and he reflected on the point with satisfaction — been the means of bringing a great many visitors to Dolgelley and its suburbs (hear, hear). Some of these visitors were.be had no hesitation in saying,amongst the most distinguished mining authorities in the world (loud applause). He hoped that the gold mines would deyelop:so substantially that there would be a yet further influx to the neighbour- hood of many such men, and that at no distant date his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales would be pleased to favour the Northern part of the dominion, of which he was prince, with his genial presence (prolonged cheering). The Prince would receive loyal welcome, and he (Mr. Morgan) would save no exertion to bring about this desirable consummation (renewed cheering). Referring to the question asked on Thursday night in the House of Commons by Mr. Kenyon and Mr. C'onybeare relative to the gdd in- dustries of the North, Mr. Morgan said he felt assured that the Crown would, when matters were properly represented to them, deal fairly and honourably with the subject. At the same he was convinced that nothing but a Royal Com- mission would fairly and satisfactorily treat a question upon which so much of the welfare of Wales depended (much cheering). Mr. Morgan, after a few further general remarks,resumed his seat amid enthusiastic applause.

GWYNEYNYDD GOLD MINES. THE UNDERGROUND MANAGER CHARGED WITH STEALING GOLD. AT a special court of the Peurhyndeudraeth Justices, on the 24th iust., William Richard (from Devonshire), underground manager of Mr. Pritchard Morgan's Gwynfynydd gold mines, and Thomas Haley, a grandson of Richard's, engaged at the mine*, were brought up in custody charged with stealing quartz containing gold from the mines. When the charge was made known at Dolgelley, where the elder prisoner was very well known, there was con- siderable excitement. The stolen property was found up the chimney of an empty house, at Trawsfynydd, rented by Richard. Captain Richard had been suspected for some time, and be was watched by Inspector Hughes, Dolgelley, who, having obtained a search warrant, went to the prisoner's house on the 23rd inst. and searched it, and found the property as above described. The inspector then apprehended both prisoners, and brought them down to Pen- rhyndeudraeth on the 24th. The ore stolen weighed 411bs., and was estimated to contain between X200 and X400 worth of gold. Richard was engaged as underground manager of the mines shortly before Christmas, and was the principal witness in the cases that were brought by Mr.Pritchard Morganagainst threedefendants for having stolen gold quaitz from the mines about a fortnight ago. Captain Richard seemed to feel his position acutely. Mr. Charles Millard, solicitor, Dolgelley, appeared OH behalf of Mr. Pritchard-Morgan, and Inspector Hughes prosecuted. William Pritchard Morgan, the owner of the mines, deposed I reside at Bryntirion, Dolgelley, and am the owner of Mount Morgan Mines, Trawsfynydd. William Richard has been for some months past underground manager at my mines. His duties were to raise the stone, uperintend the workmen, and &end the stones down to the mills or if he had no time to send stones down to keep them in the cave," on which was a lock. He had no right whatever to take any specimens or to give any away. Last Saturday morning, he declared, in the presence of Mr. Vaughan Williams and myself, that he had never removed » speck of the gold quartz anywhere. The two accused lived at Trawsfynydd, but Captain Richard was sup- posed to sleep at the mines all the week|till Saturday morning, when he-was to go home. All the stone produced came from the roof of the Chidlaw lode. I am prepared to swear the stone contains gold. The Bank of England will give me £3 10s. the ounce for the gold. The total weight of the quartz is 41lbs, and contains between X200 and X400 worth of gold. The ore contains from 10 to 20 per cent of gold. By W. Richard: I get from £ 3 5s. to X3 12s. the ounce for gold. Even last Thursday I re- primanded you for leaving about S30 worth of gold in a place when the public could take it. I always told you all gold was to be sent to the building where the pans were, and the stones such as these were to be kept in the cave, of which you had the keys. By the Bench: A man of the name of Jones I bad charge of the mine, to which there is an adit. By Mr. Millard: Haley was a miner, and worked at the mines up to last Saturday. Mr. Arthur Augustus Vaughan Williams, Bryn- tirion, Dolgelley, said I have had three or four years' experience in gold mining. I was at Mount Morgan Gold Mines on Monday, and saw Richard there. Heard him make a statement to Mr. Pritchard Morgan. Richard was ajUed if i he gave any specimens to a man at Ty'nygroes and the accused replied he had not, nor had he I ever taken away any himself. I went through the mine that day and saw the Chidlaw lode, j which was the finest I ever saw. The stone produced was taken from the mines I vis;f -J yesterday. I saw the quartz weighed. The weight was 411bs. There is between 40 aud 50 ounces of gold in the ore produced. I am pre- pared to give Xloo for the specimens. The value is between £ 100 and £-100. Richard denied that lie made the statement to Mr. Morgan denying he had taken any of the stone. r Mr. Vaughan Williams, continuing, said Mr. Morgan asked Richard for the keys of the cave, and the accused replied that lie had given them to Richards, of Wrexham, the manager of the mine.—Mr. Millard said the keys were found in accused's possession an hour after he made that statement. P.C. William Richards, Trawsfynydd, deposed: I have known the accused for some time. Acting upon instructions received, I watched Captain Richard on the 19th inst., and saw him in the evening in the company of a boy, coming from the direction of Mount Morgan Mines. I took a note of it at the time. The boy was carrying a wallet, and Richard had a black morocco bag, with a stick through the handle. The bag appeared bulky and heavy. The wallet seemed to contain clothes, and was not so heavy. It was about nine o'clock at night. Capt. Richard went home to his house, and the boy with him. I saw Capt. Richard on another occasion. It was on the 10th of April, and about the same time at night. lie had a bag in his possession, and was coming from the direction of the mines. It was the same bag. He took the bag home. He had two houses, but only occupied one. By W. Richard I never took the weight off the bag. Inspector Hngh.s, Dolgelley, eaid: On the 23rd inst. I went to Trawsfynydd. I searched the house occupied by the two prisoners, but found nothing in the shape of gold ore. I had a conversation with Haley, and t )ld him that I had a search warrant to search the house. Captain Richard was not there at the time. After searching Jjthe house in Penygareg-street, I sent a man to Haley to ask for the key of the house in Church-street, which was in the occupation of Captain Richard. There was no furniture in that house. I searched that house and found all the ore (produced) there. It was in the fireplace and up the chimney. Round the ore were The Methodist Recorder and The Sydney Herald, and other papers. The Sydney Herald had Captain Richard's Devonshire address written on it. I took possession of all the stuff. I apprehended Haley in the house, and said I would charge him and Captain Richard with stealing the quartz. He said he was not guilty, and that he knew nothing at all about it. Later on, I apprehended Captain m Richard. I charged him with stealing the gold found in his house in Church-street. He said: I will not say anything. I have a sufficient defence. I bflieve it to be a plot against me." I searched him and found letters from Australia on him. One letter referred to one of the news- papers in which the quartz was wrapped. I also found a written declaration, a printed copy of which the miners had to sign.—Mr. Millard read the declaration, which stated that the subscribers never had taken nor ever would take away any of the ore found in the mine«.—Inspector 1 iughe3 further said that lie found the keys (proiuced) on the person of Captain Richard.—Mr. Morgan proved they were the keys of the cave in the mines, which the accused Richard said he had given to Captain Richards, Wrexham. P.C. Roberts, Dolgelley, said: I searched Richard's house at, Penygareg-street, and went to Haley and asked him for the key of the house in Church-street. He said the house was in his t name, and that Captain William Richard had nothing to do with it. Subsequently P.C. Richards went to the landlord.who said the house was in Captain W. Richard's name. The key was then brought from the house in Penygareg- street by Haley. We searched the house in Church-street, and found all this gold ore there. Richard, in answer to the charge, asked for an adjournment, in order that he might engage a solicitor.—Mr. Millard wanted the bench to withdraw the charge against Haley (18 years of age), saying that he believed the accused was only acting under the influence of his grand- father. The charge against Haley was dismissed. Captain W. Richard was committed for trial, bail being accepted,—himself in £250, and two sureties in £ 250 each.

FURTHER RESULTS OF THE WORKING. AT noon, on Wednesday, Mr. Pritchard Morgan left North Wales for London with six bars of gold; weighing 895 ounces, and in value upwards of £.2300. This makes altogether more than 2000 ounces, of the value of £ 8000, since the opening of the mine. Mr. Morgan is escorted by Police-inspector Hughes, as suspicious characters are known to be on the alert. The "clean-up" at the mines for the past three weeks has realised htilf of the gold from the quartz, notwithstanding the removal of two managers and the illness of two others. Great excitement was created in North Wales by the arrests of Tuesday, and twelve con- stables are in pursuit of other culprits, as large quantities of gold have been stolen from the mines by the managers and workmen. Mr. Pritchard Morgan had in his possession yester- day a piece of gold quartz of the size of an egg, which is the colour of a sovereign. He facetiously remarked to a correspondent that that piece of the precious meval was all that re- mained after the managers and others had helped themselves. Massive safes are being fixed in the mountain to store the quartz for the crushing operations.

THE CROWN AND THE DISCOVERY OF GOLD IN WALES. IN the House of Commons on Thursday, in reply to Mr. Kenyon. Mr. Goschen said the Crown had an ancient prerogative right to all mines con- taining precious metals, and this right was sufficiently recognised in the famous case in the reign of Elizabeth. The position of lands con- t:.L ing precious metals in the colonies was gov: ned by the law of England, but the Crown had iii most cases transferred its prerogative right to the colonial Governments, who had acquired the power of making regulations. He did not know whether in any colony the right to the-e mines had been surrendered to freeholders. Without consultation with other members, he could not answer the question as to whether a Royal Commission would be appointed to con- sider the whole question of Crown rents and royalties. The First Lord of the Treasury has announced that the Crown is taking due steps to obtain a full share of the gold found in Wales by Mr. Pritchard Morgan. Of course, that gentleman will be quite happy, as he long ago expressed his wish to give the nation the benefit of his dis- coveries. In asking Mr. Smith the question as to the intended action of the Government, Mr. Hugh Watt quoted three statutes which regulate the rights of the Crown in mines royal, and it may be interesting to give an indication of the nature of these Acts. The first was passed in the first year of William Itl., to get rid of a number of contradictory opinions as to the interpreta- tion of prerogatives established in the reign of Queen Elizabeth. The prevailing doubt was whether mines in which gold and silver are intermixed with baser metals belonged to the Crown. The judges held that if any quantity, however small, of gold or silver were found, the mine was a royal appanage; the Act of the first year of William and Mary declared that no mine of copper, tin, iron, or lead should be adjudged a royal one although cold or silver might be obtained from it the Act ot the fifth year of the same reign gave the Crown a right of pre-emption to all ore, except tin ore in Cornwall and Devon, in mines possessing gold and silver. The scale of pay- ments was fixed at £ 13 per ton for copper, E2 for tin, X2 for iron, and £ 9 for lead ore. The Act of the thirty-fifth of George III., cited by Mr. Watt, did not affect these general provisions, but raised the pre-emption price of lead from SO to X25 per ton. It will be seen that none of the Acts quoted in Mr. Watt's question at all touch Mr. Pritchard Morgan's case. His gold is not obtained from copper, tin, iron, or lead ores, but from gold'ore pure and simple. There is no legislation affecting gold mines, and the prero- gative of the Crown is baspd upon a decision given in 1568, when it was declared by the justices and Barons in the the great case of mines that by the law all mines of gold and silver within the realm, whether in the lands of the Queen or her subjects, belong to the Queen by prerogative, with liberty to dig and carry it away." The actual practice of the Crown with regard to gold finds in Great Britain in recent years was detailed in an exhaustive letter in the Mining Journal on August 9th, 1884, by Mr. T. A. Readwin.F.G.S., who described himself as the first to obtain a gold mining license in Merioneth- shire. Mr. Readwin wrote thus:—"Where the gold is found in a virgin state, or secreted in rocks, and not in combination with the ores and minerals specified in these Acts, on lands where the minerals are not vested in the Crown, the Crown asks the parties interested to take a license on payment of a nominal rent and a royalty on the gold raised. To comply with which there is neither legal nor moral obligation as the Crown, having no right of entry upon private lands, cannot possibly give or sell any such right to another without the consent of the owner, who is never in the humour to give it.' Mr. Readwin declares that the Crown restrictions are practically prohibitive, and it would be interesting to discover from the F st Lord of the Treasury what fair equivalent the Com- -nisbioners of Woods and Forests are requiring from Mr. Pritchard Morgan, and whether the exactions are so onerous as to mean prractically the killing of the go.)se which lays the golden eggs.- Fin.ancial News.

"BiOAUTIES" WHO ARE NOT BEAUTIFUL. The Society correspondents who write from the capital of the United States are endowed with vivid imaginations. They have seemingly adopted the advice of King Lear: Get thee glass eyes, and like a scurvy politician seem to see the things thou does not" Or they are accomplished courtiers, for they describe the wives of the judges of the Supreme Court members of the cabinet, senators, and con- gressmen, as invariably beautiful. So that those who visit the capital fancy it to be peopled with beautv like Armida's garden in the enchanted island of Camocus, or the paradise of Mahomet. They have heard of at least fifty women who walk with the grace of Diana of IVictiers, a hundred who have inherited the witching smile of Ninon de l'K^los, and so on thr .u"-h the long catalogue of professional beauties of history, art, and poetry. But the deluded tourist finds little in the reality to justify his anticipations To the non-journalistic eye. the ladies of the capital generally aipe*r as sensible, plain, middle-aged, or elderly women. The lithe, the graceful, the smuou?, the svelte, the luminous-eyed, the full-boiomed syrens that he has read about are metamorphosed into very ordinary people, many .jf them from new provincial towns, with limited experiences of society, and most of them" fat, fair, and forty," whose forms are ponderous, whose eyes are dim, and whose hair is gray. It is astonishing how many persons—still young—one meets whose hair is gray, because the means of preserving its colour, and keeping it fresh, glossy. luxuriant and strong, can be easily found in any chemist's or perfumer's shop in the world. No one need have gray or tthn hair if they will use that wonderful preparation as a hair dressing, which is known as Mrs. S' A. Allen's World's Ha.r Restorer. it has no equal. It is always reliable. NERVOUS DEBILITY, WEAKNESS, &C.— A Minister having suffered from youthful imprudence, lost man- hood, &c., in its worst form, has discovered a simple self-cure He will send free, the Physician's whic- cured him, on receipt cf stamped envelope.—Addrese Rev. J. WOOD, Cantlowes House, Camden Squarh London, N. W. ta371s.'

THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BILL AND THE LICENSING CLAUSES. PUBLIC PROTEST A.T CARXAitVOX.— MR. ALLANSON ON VESTED INTERESTS." ()Nt Monday ovanijg, at Salem Iodepeiw-^nt Chapel, Carnarvon, a public me- tiiig was hel to protest against the licensing clauses of the Local Government Bill, by which it is intenied to compensate publicans when the licences are not renewed. The chair was occupied by Mr. J. B. Allanson, solicitor, and there was a good attendance. The Chairman said he wished to remind those present that he was appointed solicitor to the Liceosed Victuallers' Association for Carnarvon- shire and Anglesey when it was first formed, and from the very beginning until he ceased to be their solicitor he had the whole interest of the licensed victuallers at heart; and he made himself thoroughly acquainted with the laws relating to the granting, and especially to the renewal of licenses. He had had special oppor- tunity of considering the question as to the right of the magistrates to renew licenses, and he must say that, as a plain matter ef law, there was no vested interest in any license in this country (applause); that there was power, and absolute power, given to the magistrates in petty sessions assembled, to refuse the grant or the renewal of any license that it did not matter how old the license might be; that the granting of the license was only for one year, and when the licensed victualler made an application at the end of the year the magistrates had absolute discretion to refuse the license, as there had been no Act of Parlia- ment which conferred any vested interest; and therefore it was absolutely in the discretion of the magistrates to refuse the renewal of any license. Licensed victuallers, however, had the right to appeal to the Court of Quarter Sessions, and that court had the absolute right to grant or refuse the license and they were not called upon to give any reason for refusing the renewal. In his opinion, as a lawyer, there never was a vested interest; and the attempt which was now made to compensate those engaged in the traffic in intoxicating drinks should be opposed to the utmost (applause). If such an attempt were to succeed it would be a fatal blow to the cause of temperance. As to the contention that licensed victuallers were bound to have their licenses renewed at the end of the year, Mr. Hindle, of Over Darwen, who was well-versed upon the subject, had stated that, prior to the passing of the Intoxicating Liquors Act of 1872, it never was disputed that licenses were held but simply from year to year." Before that time there was no man in the country who dared to say that the licensed victuallers had vested interests in their licenses and in 1872 an Act of Parliament was passed which gave power to the magistrates to grant or refuse a license if they thought fit. The renewal of a license was refused and the matter was argued in the Court of Queen's Bench and it was held that the magistrates had the right of refusal. Therefore, the man who said that the licensed victuallers had vested interests in their licenses, was a man who did not tell tha truth or who did not know the law; and if he did know the law and said that there was vested interests, then that man was not telling the truth (applause). According to the law as it stood at present, the magistrates recognised no vested interest at all in any holder of a license. That was the language of the Court of Appeal and that was the language used in 1882 by Mr. Justice Field, namely, that the magistrates recognised no vested right at all in any holder of a license. At that present moment the Bench of Carnarvonshire had the right to grant or refuse a licease. If they re- fused, the licensed victualler had a right to appeal to the Court of Quarter Sessions,and they had absolute power to deal with the matter. Now they came to the Local Government Bill. That bill provided that the right of granting licenses should be transferrel from the magis- trates to the county boards, and these boards or councils would have the right, as was now the case with quarter sessions, to appoint a commit- tee, and the people whom they (his hearers) and he would chose as their representatives would have the right of dealing with the licenses. The moment that board was formed it wouid have the right, if theiratepayers desired it, of abolish- ing the licensed houses. The publicans there- fore wanted a clause introduced, where the council refused to renew a license, except through a man's bad character or else through his liavinglbroken the law, giving them com- pensation for the right which they did not possess ani which they never had possessed; and that compensation was to come from the pockets of the ratepayers. If there had been or if there was at that momeuta Tested legal right there might be some reason for passing a clause of the sort described; but there was no such right, and they wantel to create a vested interest. The proposal was infamous beyond all conception (applause). If the clause were allowed to pass the result would be that public-bouses would remain for years and years, and until some more sensible men would rise and have these houses swept off the land (applause). The publicans wished to have the clause inserted so as to render their traffic per- manent, and that was the reason why that meeting that night was called, so as to protest against such a proposal. Although he (Mr. Allanson) was a Conservative, he would see Conservatism sunk to the bottom of the sea before he would have a hand in such a work. He belonged to the God whom he professed to serve, and no man who helped the devil to injure the kingdom of Christ could say that he was a follower of the living God (applause). There was no excuse for people who professed Christ- ianity to help to maintain in this country a business which was the greatest enemy to the Church of Christ. There was no shirking the question, and every man or woman must be either on the one side or the other—either for God or for the devil (loud applause). Mr. D. R. Daniels, assistant secretary of the Welsh branch of the United Kingdom Alliance, then addressed the meeting on the temperance question in general. 4 Mr. John Davies (Gwyneddon) next proposed That, in the opinion of this meeting, those portions of the Local Government Bill which provide for a change of the licensing authority without conferring upon the inhabitants the power of preventing the issue or renewal of licenses, and which would assign compensation to the holders of annual licenses when such licenses were not renewed, Rr3 open to the gravest objection, and this meeting most strongly urges the removal of the clauses re- lating to compensation, and the insertion of others giving power to the inhabitants them- selves to veto the issue or renewal of licenses in their respective districts by a direct popular vote." Mr. Davies expressed the disappoint- ment which the measure, of which they had heard so much, had caused in the country. The bill created an interest which had never existed in order to give compensation. It was their duty to use their influence to prevent sach a clause being passed. The Rev. Uwen Davies, in seconaing tne motion, said lie could not see what right pub- licans had to compensation. If he found that they had a favr right to such a claim he would not object to their having it, but they had not, and it was unreasonable to grant the compensa- tion. What they heard from Mr. Allanson, namely, that the license was granted from year to year, placed the matter beyond a doubt. The Rev. Evan Jones (Moriah) supported the motion, and referred to the Local Government Bill in general, and to the police clause in par- ticular, which he severely condemned. He characterised the eomptnsatiou clause as ridi- culous, and humorously asked who ever heard of a publican seeking compensation under the Sunday Closing Act for having taken one day business out of the seven days during which it was transacted. Hierefore, why did they ex- pect compensation if the remaining six days were to undergo a similar process? (laughter). The motion was then put t" the meeting, and passed unanimously. The Rev. Lloyd Bryniog Roberts proposed that copies of the resolution be forwarded to Mr. J. Bryn Roberts, M.P., Mr. William Rath- bone, M.P., and Mr. E. Swetenham, M. P., with the urgent request that they would use their utmost efforts to secure an amendment of the bill, a;id also to the Prime Minister, the First Lord of the Treasury, the Home Secretary, and the President of the Local Government Board, with the request that they would consider the advisability of amending the bill in the manner suggested. Major D. Davies, of the Salvation Army, l secon-ied the motion, expressing his entire sympathy with the object of the meeting, and dwelt upon the evil effects of i ntemperance. The resolution was then carried. On the motion of Mr. W. G. Thomas, a hearty vote of thanks was passed to Mr. Allanson for presiding. ACTION OF THE LIVERPOOL WELSH CALVINISTS A numerously-attended meeting was held, on Tuesday night, in the schoolroom of the Welsh Calvinistic Chapel, Prince's road, Liverpool, J presided over by the Rev. IOwen Thomas, D.D., who was supported by the Revs. JGUu Thomas, D D., and Hugh Jones,;Messrs. John William*, Thomas Edwards. D. Daniel, J. J. Thomas, Edmund Griffith, Evan Owen, and others. The Chairman, having explained the object of the meetiug, Mr. Edmund Griffith moved a resolu- tion pledging the meeting to oppose to the uttermost the compensation clause in the bill. This was seconded in a-i eloquent speech by the Rev. Hugh Jones, ably supported by Dr. John Thomas, and carried unanimously, FLINTSHIRE CALVINISTIC METHODISTS. At the monthly meeting of this body, held at Llangollen, under the presidency of Mr..1. E. Powell, a resolution similar to the foregoing was unanimously adopted. MEETING AT BARMOUTH. On Sunday afternoon a crowded meeting was held at the Congregational chape!, when a reso- lution was moved by the Rev. T. Jones- Humphreys, condemning the proposal to give compensation to publicans. The resolution was seconded by the Rev. H. Barrow Williams, Wrexham. All these gentlemen spoke most eloquently on the subject. The resolution was carried unanimously.

THE COUNTY BOUNDARIES COMMISSION. INQUIRY AT MACHYNLLETH. A MEETING was held at the Machynlleth Town Hall on Saturday, when Mr. S. Moss attended to ascertaiif the feelings of the ratepayers with regard to the proposed changes in the Union of Machynlleth and Dolgelley. There were pre- sent amongs othere :—Mr. R. Gillart, chairman of the Machynlleth Guardians; Mr. D. Evans, clerk ot Afachynlleth Guardians Mr. Vaughan Davies, Mr. George Paddock, Tnyshir; Mr. Morris Davies, chairman of Aberystwyth Guardians; Mr. A. Powell, on behalf of the Cierk of the Peace Nlr. W. R. Davies, clerk to the Dolgelley G uardians; Mr. W. R. M. Wynne, Peniarth, chairman of Merionethshire Quarter Sessions Mr. R. C. Anwyl, Llugwy; Mr. Ruck, Aberdovey, &c. THE COMMISSIONER OPENING. In opening the meeting, Mr. Moss said the object of the inquiry was to hear evidence for or against the schemes of the Commi?sioners, which had been proposed with regard to the Unions of Bolgelley and Machynlleth. With regald to the Union of Dolgelley the scheme proposed to transfer that part of the parish of Mallwyd, known as Caereinjon Fechan, in Dolgelley Union, to the parish of Cemtnes, in Machynlleth Union, and transfer the remaining part of Mallwyd from the cou nty of Montgomery to Merioneth. to remain in the Dolgelley Union. With regard to the Machynlleth Union, the proposals were to transfer the parish of Pennal, now in Merioneth, to Montgomeryshire, to remain in the Machyn- Ileth Union; to transfer Towyn, now ia Machynlleth, to the Dolgelley Union, to remain in the county of .Merioneth and to transfer the parish of Scuborycoed, now in the county of Cardigan, to Montgomeryshire, to remain in the Machynlleth Union. He should be pleased to hear any remarks which anyone interested thought proper to make for or against this scheme. lie thought the Dolgelley Union was the least likely to be much disturbed, and therefore they would take that first. CAKBEINION FECHAN. Mr. John Evans, representing Caereinion Fechan, as overseer, read a resolution which had been passed unauimouslv at a vestry meeting of that parish, held at Mallwyd, on April 19th, objecting to the proposed transfer on the ground that it would be a loss to the parish of Mallwyd in various ways. particularly as it would deprive them of a considerable portion of their resource? for the maintenance of the school at Aberangell. Mr. Evans said the in- habitants would not pay the voluntary rate by which the Schools were maintained, unless they belonged to the parish. Either take the whole parish away or leave it alone. Mr. Moss You want the whole of the parish of Mallwyd to be attached to Montgomery. Mr. EvaiiS: Not the whole. Mr. Moss: What then do you want? Mr. Evans said they would like to ha^e the whole of the parish attached to Machynlleth, as it was the nearest and most convenient town, but he could not take upon himself to say that the inhabitants of the parish would consent to be joined to Montgomeryshire. They would sooner join the Union of Machynlleth for parish business. Mr. Moss: Then, you mean to join Mont- gomery ? Mr. Evans: I don't like to make that clear. I might misrepresent the feelings of the parish upou that point. Mr. Moss: We must be quite clear on that. If you come to Machynlleth you must go to Montgomery. Mr. Evans We like Merionethshire very well. I don't think we should care to move away. Mr. W. R. ll. Wynne said he had some pro- perty in the parish of Mallwyd, and his opinion was that the parish would not like to join Montgomeryshire. The majority of the people would prefer to remain in Merionethshire. He never heard the question of the part of the parish wishing to go to Montgomeryshire raised. Mr. W. R. Davies held that Mr. Evans was acting wisely in not pledging himself and the rest of the parish to a transfer from Mer- ioneth to Montgomery. The matter had been discussed in the parish. He had attended meetings on several occasions, and the parish wished to remain in Merionethshire. He thought it was a convenience to transfer part of Caer- einion Fechan, for which there appeared to be cogent reasons. This was the feeling of the Dolgelley Board of Guardians, and of the Magi- strates of the county of Merioneth. The change might involve an alteration of the boundary of the manor of Mawddwy. Mr. Moss said that was not u boundary that the Local Government Board would be acquainted with. Mr. Davies said the matter might lead to some complications. He supported the scheme. Mr. Wynne said he decidedly supported the scheme. Mr. Moss said the school was the nearest to Caereinion Fechan, and they would not lose it. It was not proposed to interfere with educational matters in the question of boundaries. Mr Wynne said the magistrates of the county of Merioneth were almost unanimously in favour of the proposal. Mr. Giliart said Mallwyd was more convenient to Machynlleth than Dolgelley. Mr. D. Evans said that the transfer would not cause any such loss as was feared to the volun- tary schools contribution. Ir was not proposed that school boards or any educational matters should be interfered with the question of bound- aries. PENNAL. Mr. Moss said with regard to Pennal, it was proposed to transfer the parish, now in the county of Merioneth, to Montgomery to remain in the Union of Machynlleth. PENNAL RESOLUTION.—A MEMORIAL. Mr. W. R. Davies submitted a resolution passed at the vestry of the parish,expressing an opinion that the proposed change WAS unnecessary, and would pruduce inconvenience to the ratepayers, and opposing the scheme. The river Dinas and Dovey should be retained as the naturial bound- aries of the parish. The local and historical traditions,as well as the sentiment of the people, should be respected, and they were in favour of remaining as the parish now was.as they differed. largely from those of the county of Montgomery The jurors and members of the county councils would be alien in race and language from the people of Merioneth. The council would be almost all English, and would probably sit at Newtown or Welshpool, where there are hardly any Welsh spoken. The distance from Pennal to Dolgelley, where the assizes and quarter sessions were held, was oniy twelve miles,which was much less than to Newtown or AVelshpool, It would cause expenses for educational pur- poses. The local burden for Merioneth was much less than for Montgomeryshire, and the parish desired to remain in its present county of Merioneth. In addition to this resolution a memorial was produced and put in, signed by 120 ratepayers, objecting to the proposed change on similar grounds. Mr. Davies said some people were in- clined to po ih-pooh the matter of sentiment,and say they did not care which county the place was in. But a little consideration would show that sentiment attached to a home was a valuable one, and this sentiment attached in no less a degree to a parish. There was no reason for the change, but there was ever)" reason to respect the wishes of the people. The contour of the country was in favour of its being left as it was Mr. Moss What are these ratepayers in the parish of Pennal ? Mr. Davies: Welshmen—indigenous. If you go to Welshpool or Newtown you will find Welsh almost a strange language. Mr. Moss: That's not^my experience, and I have been there at assizes. Mr. Davies Then they rally the Welsh from Machynlleth in order to keep up the ancient language. The memorial is signed by tlieRector, the chairman, and all the people of influence one hundred and twenty ratepayers have put their names to it, and we have the names of all the landowners of the parish here—Mr. Ruck, Mr, Anwyl, Mr. Thruston, Mr.Pugh Pryse, Mr. Wynne said he was strongly of the same opinion as Mr. Davies. that there was no possible reason alleged for the proposed change, tie was chairman of the Merionethshire Quarter Sessions, and the unanimous felling of the justices of I Merioneth was opposedjto the proposed change, and the great majority of the peop!e of the parish were against it. The inconvenience of one guardian having to go from Pennnl to Dol- gelley would be very little compared with a number of men being summoned as jurors in Newtown or Welshpool. J h thought much .stress should be laid uP'JIl the fact that the county council for Montgomeryshire would be English. He was of opinion that the change thonld not be thought of for a moment. Air. W. R. Javies said the people ere, not at au insensible to tllc tser,iees the magistrates of Merioneth had rendered to them by their exertions. The debt on the county of Merioneth was only .£2715, which could be' paid off by a rate of 2d. in the E, while the debt on Mont- gomeryshire was £ 26,229, and this would require a rate of Is. 4 £ d. in the pound to p ay off at once. The people of Pennal thought that as the Mont- gomeryshire magistrates had contracted fo large a debt th y might still be Ketting loans, and that was or.# reason why they would rather retain their connection with Merioneth. Mr. Anwyl spoke against the prooosei change. Mr. Wynne said the Montgomeryshire county rate was higher than that of Merioneth. Mr. Moss asked if, supposing Pennal should remain in Merioneth, they proposed to have a Doyle Union, or be attached to Dolgelley. Mr. W. R. Davies said they did not pr jpose to have a Doyle Union at present, because there was sufficient accommodation at Dolgelley. Mr. Anwyl said that his experience was that the people of Newtown and Welshpool were most thoroughly Anglicized. He had been astonished to find so few at Welshpool who knew a word of Welsh. Mr. Wynne said the county rate in Mont- gomery was much higher than that of Merioneth. Mr. W. R. Davies It is higher, sir. Mr. Moss: Looking at it from a poor law point of view the guardians would have to go a very long way to attend the meetings at Dolgelley. Mr. Davies Yes. They leave here at eight in the morning, and can't get back till half-past six in the evening. But Saturday is generally market day at Dolgelley, and farmers generally have business there. Mr. Wynne It doss not follow that we have got more satisfactory arrangements. I have been hammering away at the railway company for many year. to try and get an afternoon train from Dolgelley. Mr. Moss: You must be prepared to make patriotic self-sacrifices. Mr. Gillart sdid it was unreasonable to take the business of Pennal to be transacted at Dol- gelley or Bala. Pennal was in every way con, nected with Machynileth. To go to Dolgelley from Machynlleth, people had to start early in the morning, and could not get back till night. The natural boundaries of the parish were closely allied with Machynlleth. A good deal had been said about the jurors having to go to Welshpool or Newtown. For the last 25 years he had never been to Welshpool on a jury. People from that end of the county usually only went to Newtown. Mr. R. Powell, of Welshpool, said this was not always so with the special jurors. Mr. Gillart said the people from Pennal came to the Machynlleth fairs and markets. If they went to Montgomeryshire it would be much more convenient for the waywardens. lie did not think there was a single reason lor their going to Dolgelley. lie thought't was mere sentiment wishing t) stay in Merioneth. Mr. Davies called attention to the fact that Gillart was not a Pennal ra.epayer. Mr.Giliart said thatnevertheiesshe represented a very large property owner at Pennal. Mr. Davies said that he (Mr. Davies) came there in a much more pleasant capacity he attended for a large number of ratepayers. Mr. Gillart asked whether it would not be a fair question to ask whether the memorial read had not emanated from Mr. Davies ? Mr. Davies said the memorialists were present -many of them, and could answer the question themselves. He merely wrote the memorial and put it into English -this being the language spoken at Pennal. Mr. Wynne I only give my opinion as an owner. I never heard of the memorial. Mr. Davies said the memorialists would give evidence if the commissioners would accept it. Mr. Moss did not think this necessary. It would not strengthen Mr. Davies's case. Mr, Moss asked if anyone had anything to say j against the transfer of the parish of Towvn trom the Union of Machynlleth. This was not objected to, and the commissioners assumed the general cogent of the ratepayers. SCUBORYCOED. With regard to Scuborycoed, Mr. Paddock, of Yn>shir, put in a resolution passed at a parish meeting, desiring that Scuborycoed should be transferred to the Aberystwyth Union. He said that "the Montgomeryshire magistrates had ex- pressed their assent to this arrangement, as had also the Cardiganshire county committee. Mr. Vaughan Davies, of Aberystwyth, also supported the proposal, and said that it they interfered with the boundary of Cardiganshire they might alter that of North and South Wales. Mr. R. Powell said he was requested by the clerk of the peace for Montgomeryshire (Mr. G. D. Harrison) to mention that Lord Powis, the lord-lieutenant of the county, and chairman of quarter sessions, considered that it would be very inconvenient to separate the single town- ship of Scuborycoed from the five townships of Llanfihangel-genau'r-Glyn. This was the only place in which it was proposed to alter the natural boundaries of North and South Wales. It would also be inconvenient for road purposes, and would be geographically inconvenient to Montgomeryshire to have the supervision of this township. Mr. Morris Davies, chairman of the Aberyst- wyth board of guardians, supported the proposal, to which no objection was offered. The commissioner will report on these pro- posals. _——————

ARFON MONTHLY MEETING. LLANLLYFFI, APRIL 23RD and 24TH. MR. J. HUGHES, of Portdinorwic, in the chair. In the absence of Mr. D. Griffith, of Bangor who was to deliver the introductory remarks upon "The Communion of the Saints," the Rev D. Charles Davies, M.A., of Bangor, T. Roberts, of Bethesda, and other brethren delivered short' addresses.—Regretful references were made to the death of Mr. H. Morris (Cvsegr), Mr. W. Ro- berts, and Mr. H. Jones (Clynnog), who had served as elders in their respective churches.- A letter of introduction having been read from the West Merioneth Monthly Meeting to" the Rev. W. Williams, late o: Corris, but now minister of the Talsarn chuich, a most warm vote of reception to Mr. Williams was passed which be very feelingly acknowledged. A letter of introduction was granted to the Rev J. II. Griffith, M.A., of Bangor, who is about to pay a short visit to the connexion in America The next Monthly Meeting will be held at Caer- hun chapel on the 9th and 10th of May (Wednesday and Thursday) and the following at Beheboth chapel, on the 4th and 5th of June. The subject for consideration at Caerhun will be The sacrifice of praise," Mr. O. Griffith (Eryr Eryrij. Waenfawr, to deliver the introductory remarks.—The report of the state of the cnurcti at Llanllyfai was very interesting and satisfactory.—A letter of intro- duction was granted to the Rev. H. Ellis, Beth- esda, who has accepted the call of the ch ircb of Pennal, West Merioneth Monthly Meeting. The following appointments were made —The Revs. R. Thomas, Llanllvfni; O. Hughes, Tanyrailt • and Mr. \Y, Jones, Bwlan, to take the vote Bethel Church, Penygroes, in the can of minister; Revs. T. Roberts, Bet'. G. Hughes, Portdinorwic; Messr-. a. 1:. r-an; Llanllechyd and T. Hughes, LlanfaH*. t take the votes of Tabernacle Chu>vh H ;i^;or' the election of elders: Rev. :V. ezer, and Mr. E J-Av.rj Moriah Chapel, Carnarvon and i, Xeewvn Parry, Uanberis, and Mr. W. Davies, i.i,tjirug, to visit Shiloh Church., Carnarvon, respecting certain cases of dith^nlty. Tanyrailt Church was directed to co.^ ;uit the building committee re- specting their application for permission to build a schoolroom. The use, for purposes of perus.il, of the lease of Brynmenai Chapel was granted for a short time. Tiie Rev. W. Evans, Carnar- von, was appointed secretary of the Carnarvon District Meeting.—Revs. D. Charles Davies. M.A.. Bangor; U. Jones, Llanllechid; D. Manuel, Pen- maenmawr; W. Griffiths, Disgwylfa; R. Thomas, Llanllyfm; Messrs. M. Evans, Gerlan D. P. Williams, J.P., Llanberis and O. Jones, Talysani, were appointed members of the Foreign Missionary committee connected with the Monthlv Meeting.—Attention was called to the biography of the late Mr. II. Lewis, of Llan- beris, written by the Rev. G. Tejwyn Parry. The work was highly praised and thought deserving of a very wide circulation. All the profit derived from the sale thereof is to be de- voted to the education (,f the late Mr. H. Lewis's children. The preachers at the public services were:- Revs. W. J. Williams, Nazareth; D. Charles Davies, M.A., Bangor R. R. Morris, Carnarvon; T. Roberts, Bethesda D. Hughes, Llanberis; J. H. Griffiths, M.A., Bangor W. Williams, Taly- sarn; and G. Roberts, Carneddi.

THE TITHE QI KSTION IN WALES. THE NEWEST DEVELOPMENT. A LIVELY state of affairs is presently to hi apprehended in North Wales. The Ecclesiastical Commissioners and Clergy Dei-enee Association have broken the offensive and defensive alliance entered into between them, and their respective agents, Mr. Peterson for the clergy una Mr. Stevens for the commissioners, are collecting ic- dependently. Two forces scouring the country daily will cause intense excitement, while the cost to the ratepayers of the ^r^e bodies of police-constables employed will be enormous. Each of the four Welsh bishop-, has promised donations of £100 towards toe funds of the Clergy Defence Association.

IMPORTANT DEC H ION. On Monday, at Caerwys Sessions, before Col Mesham and Mr. E. Morgan, the twice-adjourned case against the Rev. Edward Jwnes, rector of Caerwys, was heard. Mr. Aluu Lloyd was for the over.-eers, and Mr. Wallis Davit:" for the rector. The claim was £18, balance of rate due on the tithe, which the rector said he did not pay because, owing to the agitation, he had not received the tithe on which the rate was claimed. Air. Wallis Davies upheld this contention, and also urged that the overseers had no power to assess the rector as the titheowner, but must levy the rate on the occupiers of the lana, and that the magistrates have no power to issue a warrant against the rector for the ra: Yr. Lloyd urged that the magistrates having had proof that the rate was legally maae und de- manded they were bound to issue a warrant. Trie justices,afler a long consultation considered that the law was not at all clear on the point- raised, but acting merely in a ministerial cipscity they would issue a warrant against the rector with cOfts, and they grafted Mr. Davies a case to the superior court on the points he had raised. I TITHE DISTRAINTS IN ANGLESEY. IN the House of Commons, on Friday. Mr. Thomas Lewis asked the Home Secretary whether application had been made for the assistance of the military at prop >sed tithe dis- traints in Anglesey, and, if 80) by whom and on what grounds and whether since the report made by the chief-constable to him that there was no occasion for the military, and that there was no disturbance to prevent Mr. Peterson completing his distraints, anything had occurred in Anglesey to necessitate the assisiance of the military t.nd if not whether the application would be granted. Mr. Matthews said the Court of Quarter Sessions had sanctioned the application after full inquiry, on the ground that resistance was appre- hended. The county police force was inadequate, and there was some difficulty in obtaining assis- tance from the police force of neighbouring counties. He was sorry that the assistance of the military should be necessary, but since the application had obtained the sanction of the magistrates he expected the military authorities would grant it.

THE BAPTIST UNION AND WELSH DISESTABLISHMENT. AT the Wednesday session of the Baptist Union of Great Britain and Ireland at the City Temple, Holbcrn-viaduct, London, under the chairman- ship of the Rev. Dr. Clifford \president), the subject uf Welsh Disestablishment was intro- duced by the Rev.T. E. Williams (Aberystwyth), who moved—" That in view uf the present posi- tion of the Established Church in the Princi- pality of Wales and in Monmouthshire (1) that for spiritual purposes it is little more than a geographical expression, justifying Mr. Glad- stone's reference to Wales as a nation of Noncon- formists (2) that Nonconformist places of worship supplying accommodatinnfor a vastpro- portion of the population, having been built, and their ministers having been educated and supported by voluntary funds, it is the judg- ment of this assembly of the Baptist Union of Great Britain and Ireland that the question of Disestablishment is ripe tor settlement, and that in the truest interests of the Welsh people it ought no longer to be postponed." In proposing his resolution, Mr, Williams said he was of opinion that the battle of Disestablishment in this country was to be fought on Welsh ground, and he came to ask his hearers for their help and sympathy.—Mr. A. Tilly (Cardiff; seconded the resolution* He said the time for argument had gone by and the time for action had come (hear, hear).—The resolution was carried unani- mousl.

CARNARVON COUNTY COURT- TUESDAY.—Before his Honour Judge Horatio Lloyd. ADMINISTRATION ORDERS. Mr. J. T. Roberts, on behalf of Robert Jones, groom in the employ of Messrs. W Liiams Brothers, surgeons, Carnarvon, applied for an administration order. His debts amounted to £32 14s. 6d. The debtor offered to pay 7s. 6d. a month for 2$years, at the expiration of which time he would increase it to 17s. 6d.—His Honour made an order for 7s. fod. a month, to be increased to 15s. a month at the expiration of another order—Mr. J. T. Roberts applied also on behalf of Thomas Pritchard, labourer, whose debts amounted to £3-1 6s. lUd., and on behalf of David Jones, Glangwna, and in each case all order was made for 10s. a month. A NEW COUNTY COURT." In a case in which a Carnarvon tradesman was interested, a circular was handed to the judge as having been sent from the tradesman to the defendant in the case and bearing the words, '•New County Court."—His Honour: Is this an opposition court? (loud laughter). I think you had better not use this again.—Mr. Allanson said that he found his name was at the bottom of the circular when it had no right to be there. ALLEGED BREACH OF CONTRACT. Thomas Roben. Pool-side, Carnarvon, sued Evan Jones, cattle dealer. Lianfagdalen, for i-3 damages for alleged breach of contract. Mr. Allanson appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. J. T. Roberts defended.—Mr. Allanson said that the plaintiff had bargained to buy a cow from the defendant, who, it it was held, had broken the contract. Mr. J. T. Roberts maintained that the bargain wis closed provided the cow was removed at once, which was not done.—His Honour gave judgment for the defendant. ACTION AGAINST THE L. AND N. W. RAILWAY COMPANY. Mr. Robert Griffith, Garth, Llanwnda, sued the London and North-Wastern Railway Company for the recovery of damages tor injuries alleged to have been done to a horse.— Mr. J. H. Roberts appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. R. M. Preston for the railway company.—Mr. Roberts said that on the 5th of September last, plaintiff's horse got on to the defendants rail- way from an adjoining field in which it was grazing. A train came up and knocked tne horse into a ditch, where it remained for some time, but afterwaids struggled upon the line and was taken charge of by some of the officials. Ultimately the animal was attended to by Mr. Rumsey WilJiams, veterinary surgeon. The horse was worth at least £:\0. For depreciation in its value £30 was claimed .£0 6s. Gd. for the charges of the veterinary surgeon, and.£14 13s. 6d. for loss of use and a man's time in looking after the animal.—Evidence as to the value of the horse was given by Mr. J. Rumsey Williams and Mr. Oliver, a horse dealer, who estimated the wurth of the animal at from £;)3 to £-15 prior to the accident, but was now only worth trom £8t. tl:ir. Preston contended that he had noca-' 'o reply to, and he wished to know W!K-I his friend was proceeding under the comm )■. law or under the statutes.—Mr. Roberts said lie ould proceed under the common law as the ct- ants were hound to repair their fences. His L -:t. -ur said it it wus the ordinary common :w, thes. must keep their cattle wit '.i: ov property.—Mr. Preston contended hat the piaintiS must benonsuitedThe horsehad arayed.from its owner's tieldintoa garden belong- ing to the house of a man keeping alevelcross- ir.g and had then goue oa the jme -Mr Roberts maintained thut the house referred to -a l erected bv the railway company for occupation tyaper^iiThat was to look aftjr the railway g-,tesSn land which the Act said must oe fouced off, butthe company had done exactly tue re- verse.—His Honour said he con.d not decme the case at haphazard,as it was a very serious matter, and he thought he had better t-i.ce a note of the objection and look up the question, the case in the mciiiiiimc to be adjourned. ——

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