The Carmarthen Weekly Reporter

ZION PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.—The pulpit erf this church be occupied on Sunday, the 29th inst., by the Rev J. M. Saunders, ALA., of Swansea. THE schedules for Llanddarog Show, which is to be held on Wednesday, August loth, are now ready, and may be obtained from Mr J. W. Lewis, hon. secretary, Llanddarog. DR Goodall, of the Joint Counties Asylum, Carmarthen, haa been appointed Superin- tendent of the new Asylum at Whitchurch, Cardiff, by v votes to 15 recorded for Dr AlcConaghey, of Cheshire County Asylum, Macclesfield. Particulars of the appointment will appear in our next issue. T.itirs.-Oii Thursday, the 19th inst., the Tabernace Sunday School had their annual outing to Ferry.sade.-The same day lietliania C.M. Sunday School had an outing to Llan- stephan.—The St. David's hranch of the G.F.S. went to Llanstephan on the same day. The employees and servants of Messrs D. and Ll. Rees Jones, Market Hall, had a very en- joyable trip to Pendine on Thursday, thanks to the generosity of their employers.-Oil Monday, Priordy, Ebenezer, and Abergwili (Independent) Sunday Schools had their out- ings to Tenby in very enjoyable weather.— The same day the choir of Christ Church had a trip to Pendiine. DEATH OF MISS FLORENCE MAY JENKINS.— We regret to record the death of Miss Florence May Jenkins, daughter of Mr Walter Jenkins, Ferryside (formerly of Guild- bau-square, Carmarthen), which took place early on Sunday morning. Miss Jenkins, who was 32 years of age, had only been ill for a lew days, ^er death ift generally regretted in Carmarthen, where etlie was well known and highly respected, and general sympathy is felt with the parents in their affliction. The funeral took place on Wednesday at the Carmarthen Cemetery. It is well that the readers of the "Reporter" should be interested and pre- pared at once for the visit of the Cambrian Archaeological Association to Carmarthen in August (13th to 17th). It is over 30 years since they were here last, and Arohseclogy is more of an exact science now than it was then. We are looking forward to the visit of some of the most illustrious scholaris in history and experts in antiquity during the week; and it behoves us a Town to tender unto them a most cordial welcome. Over a 100 members of the Association will probably attend, and besides the few that will prefer boarding together as parties in our large hotels., many have already written to the local secretaries. (Mr Walter Spurrell and the Rev M. H. Jones) to ask forpi-ivate lodgings. May we appeal through the medium of the "Reporter" to those people in Carmarthen who can entertain paying guests during that week (August 13-17th) to send in their names and addresses at once, with their scale of charges, to either of the local secretaries. Further information re the week's excursions will appear next week. _n_

HELD OVER. Owing to the long report of the County Council meeting at Llandilo, we are obliged to hold over a number of local paragraphs, and other news, until next week.

ONLY A PISTOL POINTED AT CARMARTHEN. TOTAL RESULT—ONLY ONE MORE MEETING AT LLANELLY. SIR JOHN WILLIAMS EXPOSES A SECRET CIRCULAR. The quarterly meeting of the Carmarthen- shire County Council was held at the Llandilo Shire Hall, on Wednesday, at 11.15 a.m. The chair was taken by Mr H. Jones Thomas, Llanfynydd. There were ajiso present: Sir James. Drummond, Bt., Edwinsford; Sir John h liUiams, Bt., The PI as; Sir Lewis Morris, Penibryn; Mr John Scourfield, Blaemvem- ddu; Mr J. Williamis, Llanelly; Mr John Johns, Parceithin; Mr W. Jones, Llandilo; Rev A. Fuller Mills, Carmarthen; Mr Thos. Jones, Llanelly; Mr J. Lloyd Thomas, Tan- Ian Mr Joseph Jopseh, Llangennech; Mr W. J. Williams, Brynamman; Mr T. E. Brig- Istocke, Carmarthen; Mr Wilkins, Llanelly Mr R. W. Stephens, Coedybrain; Mr David Davies, Llandebie; Mr C. E. Morris, Carmar- then Mr Joseph Thomas, Llanybyther; Mr W. N. Jones, Tirydail; Mr W. Mabon Davies, Glansawdde; Professor .u, E. Jones, Carmar- then; Mr John Lloyd, Penybank; Mr J. W. Harries, PenUwyne; Mr Richard Evans, Cresswell; Mr Watkins, Llandoveiy; Mr W. Jones, Llandilo; Mr John Phillips, Caer- Ueon; Mr John Rees, Dolgwm; Mr John Lewis, Carmarthen; Mr H. Jones-Davies, Glyneiddan; Mr D. Evans, Alanordtaf; Mr T. Barrett, Cross Vale; Mr W, Jenkins, Allty- cadno; Mr D. Davies, Rhiblyd; Mr James Phillips, St. Clears; Rev W. Davies, Llan- dilo; Col. Lewes, Llysnewydd Mr T Thomas, Llangennech Mr T. F. Jones, Conwil-Caio; Re,v J. H. Rees, Pembrey; Mr W. David, Llanelly; Rev T. Johns, CapeJ Als; Mr D. C. Parry, Llanelly; Mr W. Thomas, Trelech Mr A. Stephens, Kidwelly; Mr Hammond, Burry Port; Mr John Thomas, Llanelly; Mr Neville, Llanelly; Mr J. W. Gwynne Hughes, Tregeyb; Rev W. Davies, Llandilo; Mr May- bery, Llanelly; Mr T. E. BnigstQCke, Car- marthen Mr Johns, Fellinfoel; Mr D. L. Jones, Derliwyn Mr B. Evans, Brithdir; Mr W. Griffiths, Llanelly Mr T. Jones, Pen- ronw; Mr J. Llew Thomas, Hondy; Rev D. D. Walters, Newcastle Emlyn. The following members only were absent: Earl Cawdor, Rev J. TOIwyn Jones, and Mr John Beavan.

A WORK OF ART. When the members reached the Hall each one found in his lyl,a-ce, a lithograph with the title:— "Castle Buildings, I via nelly The Proposed New County Offioes." The offices appeared to be a suite of rooms over ia row of shops. How the pictures got into the place, is a mystery. The only clue available is the fact that the elock in the picture stands at five minutes to four. Copies of this picture aire said to be now of great value.

AN ATTEMPT AT CLOSURE FAILS. Amongst the correspondence, the Clerk read letters from the Llanybyther and New- castle Emlyn District Councils protesting against the proposal to remove the county offices to Llanelly. The Clerk was proceed- ing to read another letter, when Mr D. C. Parry said: If there are any more of these I propose that they be taken as read. Xo. no.") Mr W. J. Williaims: They are mild enough. I think they ought to be heard.

THE FIRST CHECK. ilie following report was received from the Bank House Committee:— At a meeting of the Bank House Com- mittee, held at the Skiiv Hal'l, Carmarthen, on Saturday, May 12th, 1906, at H15 p.m. The Surveyor and Architect re- ported that dry irot had set in on the timbers of the roof, and that it would be of very little avail to expend zC148 upon the roof in its pre- sent condition. To place the building in a proper condition of tenantaible repair, there sliould be a. new roof, and as this would affoirl considerable additional accommodation for storage, etc., -,iihiieh was mrach desired, it was resolved that the repairs and roof' be proceeded wMi at a cost, not exceeding £ 630. —It was resolved that tenders be invited for nitt the work contained in the estimate, ex- cluding linoleum.-It wla resolved that the next meeting of the Committee be called for the 2nd June. (Two other meetings were held, whose minutes we omit). At a meeting of the Bank H-ouse Com- mittee held at the Shire Hall, Carmarthen, on Tuesday, June 11th, 1906, present, Mr John Johns and Mr J. Soondield- The Sur- veyor stated that they had further con- siderred Mr Rees Davies' tender, and new submitted the folLowing as an amended ten- der by him (Here follow details). Amended total of tender exclus- ive of Ventilation 10 0 0 Ventilation 10 0 0 Total inclusive of Ventilation £ 386 4 0 It was resolved that the amended tender of Mr Rees Davies be accepted. At a meeting of the Bank House Com- mittee, held at the Shire Hall, Carmarthen, on Saturday, the 14th day of July, 1906, at 12.30 p.m., present, Messrs J. Lloyd Thomas, John Lloyd, and John Johns.—The Clerk re- ported that Mr Rees Davies had s'gned his contract, but had asked for the period for the completion of the worn to be extended to the 1st December, 1906.—The Committee con- sented LO the period for completion being ex- tended to that date." Mr W. J. Williams asked if it would not be better to consider the notice of motion given by Mr N. Jones before considering the report of this Committee as they were connected. Professor Jones said that he did not think they were connected. He was not a member of the Committee fortunately; but the matte) had been settled, the contract signed, and the work was going on. Mr W. J. Williams: Nothing has been con- firmed. Professor Jones said that confirmation was not required. The Committee had plenary powers. Mr John Johns said that he was sure the Committee had .been given absolute power; they had let the contract, and the work had been commenced. J1" A. Stephens: Is it a fact that they were given full powers ? -.11' H. Jones-Davies said that as the Com- mittee had been given full power, the Coun- oil could do nothing with the reports. The Chairman: We can receive them. Mr J. Lewis: The Clerk has reported that Mr Rees Davies has signed the contract. Mr W. J. Williams: Is it understood that this committee is to spend any further money on Bank House. As far as these proceedings are concerned, there is no danger. The Clerk said that the Committee had been given full powers to do all repairs neces- sany to put the buildings in a tenantable re- pair. and full powers with regard to the furn- ishing. It had been given full powers be- cause the timbers of the roof were in a bad state and dry rot had set in. Mr John Lewis (Meiros .alI): That is all they have done. Mr W. J. Williams said that the Com- mittee had not yet done any furnishing; and they might land the committee in a couple of thousands of pounds expense. Mr John Lewis (Meiros Hall): Mr Williaans is on the Committee. It would be far better if he came here. Mr W. J. Williams: I have been there. It would be better for us to consider this before going any further. P,rofes.sor Jones: We have no right to con- firm them. Mr John Johns: None whatever. Mr H. Jones-Davies: I move that we re- port progress. The reports were accepted.

ATTEMPT TO OVERBALANCE THE AGRICULTURISTS. LLANELLY MAULED IN THE FIRST ROUND. The folioAving notice of motion stood in the name of the Rev J. H. Rees:- "That the Local Government Act Com- mittee be mstr-ucted to meet forthwith and empowered to take the necessary steps to create seven new electoral divisions as foUows One in the Parish of Pembrey. One in the Parishes of Llandilo Rural and Llandehie. One in the Hamlets of Glyn and Berwick. One in the Parishes of Llannon and Llan- edy. One out of portions of Bettws and Quarter Bach. Two for Llanelly Urban. Also that pending the formation of the aloove divisions the Local Goernment Board be requested to suspend any Order the Board may make as the result of the Local Govern- Board Inquiry with the exception of that for the new Ammanford division." Mr John Williams said that before Mr Rees or any other long-winded speaker began (laughter) he would like to ask the Chairman to enforce the Standing Orders and to allow them only live minutes each. Some of them had spoken for an hour at Carmarthen (hear, hear). Mr C. E. Morris asked if the second portion of the motion was in order, ha-ving regard to the fact that the matter was at the present moment sub-judice, being under the con- sideratiÏon of the Local Government Board. They had not yet received the report of the Commissioner who had enquired into it, and he suggested that the latter portion of the proposal was out of order entirely. Mr W. David said that before the Chair- man gave his ruling, he Avould like to point out that the Commissioner had stated at the enquiry that if such a request were made by the Council to the Local Government Board it would be considered by them. How then could Mr Morris say that the matter was sub judice. Mr C. E. Morns said that what the Colli-1 missioner had said was that he was open to receive other applications; but there Avas no reason why this should be postponed because other rersons had neglected their duty. The Chairman said that he ruled the latter part of the motion out of order. Mr W. David I will give in to no one as to the truth of my statement. The Chairman: I have ruled. ivlr W. David I submit, as I always do. Rev J. H. Rees then moved the first part of the resolution, and proceeded to give statistics of the population and rateable value of the different districts referred to from which figures he argued that they were entitled to a larger share of representation. In Llanelly, he contended that one member represented 628, and in Carmarthen 480 ellectoi-s. Mr W. Jones seconded the proposal. Professor Jones sa,id that he would like to move an amendment. He agreed with a good deal of AAJhat Mr Rees had etaid; but Mr Rees had not said enough. He had told the truth, but not the whole truth. He thought the Local Government Act Committee ought to consider the whole truth and not some por- tion of it (laughter). He did not think that the question <1f assessable value entered into it. The Act said that regard must be had to population and acreage. He was sorry that Mr Rees had done that which appeared to raise the question of the industrial versus cne agricultural portions of the county. Rev J. H. Rees interrupted and protested against this statement. He had included Llands.o Rural. Mr J. Johns: Give him faij-play to speak. Professor Jones contended that that one was only included amongst six of the indus- trial areas. In Carmarthen lie represented 527 olectors- which was a. pretty large con- stituency. But look at the case of Mydffai or Cilycii-iii. The number of electors in Cily- cwm was only 362; but it was ten times easier for hiim to represent the 537 electors, than for the Councillor for Oilycwun division to repre- sent 362. In Carmarthen his constituents werea.1:1 together; and he had not more than two miles to wailk from one end of his division to the other. The Cilycwm councillor had a division Avith an area of 41,000 acres; and he had to travel miles and miles before he Avould come to knowr the grievances of the people Avhom he represented. The Act did not say a Avord about assessable Aralue. He could re-' present an assessable value of L10,000 as well as one of £ 5,000. Area. was a very differ- ent thing; and he hoped that every member Avho had grain otf sympathy Avith the fa.r- niers would bear that fact in view as a reason why a 'larger representation should be given to the agricultural districts. He was speak- ir- for the rural districts against the urban, and was, therefore, speaking against Car- marthen as much as LI-aiiielly. Each member in Llanelly represented on an average 628. Tliat was not a igreat deal when you had them altogether. Each coiirgtitwiley was about 400 acres in area they were less than 3,000 acres altogether for the eight members. Take the case of liangeler. Mr John Lewis (Meiros Hall): Hear, hear. Professor Jones said that Llangeler had a Take the case of liangeler. Mr John Lewis (Meiros Hall): Hear, hear. Professor Jones said that Llangeler had a population of 724, Avhich was 100 more than any of the Llanelly districts; and it had an area of 1,528 acres. It wa sa pity that Mr Rees, who felt so much for Llanelly, did not al-o feel for the agricultural districts with a larlger [x pulaticu and a hundred tunes the area. Take Llanboidy with an electorate of j70—Avhieh Avas more than the 628 of Llan- elly. Instead or 400 acres, it had 23,648 acres. To travel from one end of that con- s.-tuency to the other Avas a journey of 12 or 13 miles, and yet it had not repre sentation Jrike the district which Wias congested with members. Llanarthney division had an elec- I torate of 646, and an area of 15,710 acres. St. Clears had an electorate of 644-which was greater than Lanelly-and it had an area of 17,301 acres. Llanybyther had 629 electors —one more than blanelly-and it had an area of 1,6811 acres. Whitland had 628 electors —exactly the same as Llanellyand it had an acreage of 20,209. It could easily contain the whole of Llanelly. Kidwelly had 627 elec- tors. That was not mentioned, iiiid it had an area as great as the whole urban district of Llanelly. Mr J. Soomrfield: Go on, Professor (laugh- ter). Professor Jones said that West-fa and Glyn were under represented with a member to 672 electors; but Llangeler was over repre- sented with its 729. As for Berwick with its 602 electors—less than any of those he had mentioned—it had no area at all. It was like a mathemati *.1 point (position without mag- nitude), Mr W. J. Williams: We get money from there. Professor Jones said that he did not quarrel about that. If the cases Mr Rees mentioned were so serious. what about the others. He moved that they ask the Local Government Act Committee to consider the case of the whole county. There were a few anomalies, and many of them were apparent; but if they take area into accoun the discrepancy disap- pears. He appealed to the friends of the agricultural districts to consider these things well. He could only look upon this as—he would not say an unscrupulous attempt, but it looked .e it to disenfranchise practically the agricultural districts and to give the sole control to a small set in the industrial dis- trict. Air John Lewis said that he begged to second the amendment which had been so well proposed by Professor Jones. He be- lieved that Air Rees would like to be just; but he was only looking in one direction. Mr Rees wished to be just ot the people of Llan- elly. He (Mr J. Lewis) appealed to Mr Rees to withdraw his motion. It would look more gentlemanly with the light which had been thrown on the matter. Perhaps Mr Rees when he thought of being just did not look towards the agricultural district to which he belonged. He (Mr Lewis) claimed Mr Rees as one of them. He would like to persuade Mr Rees to withdraw his motion. It was no credit to him or the people he represented. He (Mr) Lewis represented Llangeler in which there were 724 electors. Some of these electors had to travel seven miles to the poll. When Col. Lewes wished to see some of his constituents he had to travel 12 or 13 miles, and if he went round the district he had to travel about 40 miles.—Mr Lewis con- cluded Withdraw Mr Rees. Mr J. Scom-field said that he did not wish to add anything to what had been said. He thought that the facts adduced were strong enough. If Mr Rees had a strong case, he (Mr Scourfield) had a stronger case. His district, which was 15 miles long, extended from Pendine to Egremont. He had to travel over it all when he was elected, and he would not like to travel over it again. He would like Mr Rees to live there for a couple of years and his sympathy would be more with the working man and the farmer. The work- ing men in the town ATorked shorter hours, and they had only to go a few hundred yards to the poll; in the country they had to work longer horn's; and labourers who had to re- main at theiL' Avork until after six o'clock had to travel &ix or seven miles to the polls. He did not think that any sane man would agree with the proposal. Mr H. Jones Davies said that he hoped Mr Rees would withdraw his motion. After what Professor Jones had saltL, he was afraid the motion was privy and accessory to something else. There Avtas something behind the scenes to undermine the whole of the existing fabric Mr Rees had made a good deal of the question of rateable value. He wished Llanon and Llanedy with a rateable value of E20,000 to have three members, while St. Ishmael had only one with a rateable value of £ 17,000 and St. deal's one with a rateable value of £ 17,693. The arguments of Mr Rees were c absuj-d and ridiculous on the face of them. Besides acreage, population, and rateable value, there was another question which ought to be taken into account and that was intelligence (hear, hear). Mr Rees seemed to be floundering in his figures from one end to the other. He wished to add seven new members to the County Council. The num- ber of County Councillors must be divisible by three, as they had to elect one alderman for every three councillors. He did not know how Mr Rees .intended to elect the third of an aidenman or whether he would provide three tailors to make up a fraction of a man. Mr Rees's proposal would give the representation to one side of the county alone. Since the County Council have become the local educa- tion authority, it would be advisable to con- sider how many elementary schools there were in the various districts. There were 1541 elementary schools in the county; and of these only 30 were in the Llanelly Rural Dis- trict. There were only seven schools in the three divisions of Llannon and LIanedy. In Abergwili division there were eight schools; and in St. Clears six. It was not a question of rateable value, but of fair representation to every part of the county. Mr C. E. Morris saad that they should d,al with these identically with the resolution passed in April 1904. He was sure that they all wished nothing but to give fairplav to Llanelly and Carmarthen. Rev J. H. Rees said that he was glad of the criticism which his motion had raised. He Avished his friends from the West, how- ever, to believe that there was ia little wisdom in the East. The wise men came from the East. A Member; 10 the West. Rev J. H. Rees: I have as much sympathy with the farmers as anybody. A Meemiber: Show it. Rev J. H. Rees said that some of the argu- ments did not apply which had been raised in regard to some of the Avestera divisions, as they were affected by the application to create divisions. Mr John Johns: That has not been decided —that is sub judice. Rev J. H. Rees said that probably these constituencies would be greatly reduced. PerhapS the industrial districts could not live without the agricultural; but AAihat would the fa micro do without the industrial population. They sent all their goods to the industrial dis- tricts. A Member: To Glamorganshire. Rev J. H. Rees: Bear in mind we are the consumers—in the opinion of fair- minded Liberal taxation and representation should go together. What was the use of an acre i,f you did not get anything from that airoaand did not know how many people lived on that area, and did not know what amount was returned annually to the Exchequer of the Council for this area. He hoped that every member Avith a feeling of justice in his heart would vote for the motion. Mr Joseph Joseph saiÍd that there were some new mean bens present who had not signed the declaration accepting office. Were they eligible to vote. The Clerk: They have all signed (laugh- ter). On a division, there voted For Professor J nes' rumendrment 38 For the motion 25 There seems to be some dou:bt whether the figure for the motion was not 26. Mr John Lloyd said that if this was to be referred to the Local Goverameijt Act Com- mittee they ought to have that committee more representative. Last March that com- mittee had been packed by a large number of representatives from L.aneilh'. 0 In view of what had now taken place ut appeared that that had been done with an object ("No, no.") It was no use saying "-No, No." When the vacancy had to be filled up after die death of Mr James Rees, of Talgarth, instead of appointing his successor they appointed a Brynaimam man. Two members had also been fadded from Llanelly. The majority of the members of the Committee represent in- dustriial districts; and they would support the industrial population against the agri- cultural population. He was quite prepared for Llanelly and Carmarthen to have their qnota; but he maintained that additional members should be elected to represent other unions. Mr W. N. Jones aid that there wesre 11 momfoera from the agricultural and IJ mom- bors fromHhe industrial districts on the Com- mittee. Professor Jones saiid that this committee would have to be re-elected next March. No doubt by that time a great many changes would have been made. Mj- J. Johns said that the action of the Committee Avould be reA"ieAved by the whole Council, and it Avas not necessary to insist on this. Air B. Evans moved that Mr James Phillips be elected to the place of the late Mr John Leivis, St. Clears. This was unanimously agreed to. Air John Lloyd moved that they have two ¡ members additional for each of the unions except Carmarthen and Llanelly. Air John Lewis (Aleiros Hall) seconded, and the motion was carried. Air J. Johns said that before this com- mittee could do any-thing, the mtepayei-, would have an opportunity of judging them.

THE CHALLENGE. The following motions stood in the name of Mr W. N. Jones:— (a) "That Standing Order No. 1 of the County Council Standing Orders be altered so that in future it shall read as follows: "All County Council meetings and all Com- mittee meetings of the County Council I shall be held in future at Llanelly, and the meetings of the County Council shall cam. mence at 11.15 a.m." (b) "That the work of the County Council hitherto performed by its officials dt Car- marthen be in future performed by such officials at Llanelly in offices to be provided there for the puatose, and that all resolu- tions (if anyv providing for the contrary be hereby rescinded." I Sir Lewis Alorris said that in the interests of peace he would make a suggestion. He thought that the division which had just been taken on similar lines showed clearly on which side was the majority. He did not wish to see the industrial portions of the county opposed to the agricultural, nor Llan- elly opposed to Carmarthen. There had been in the past a good deal of jealousy which ought not to have existed. Air J. Johns: Too much (hear, hear). Sir Lewis Alorris said that he should like to see Llanelly taking a greater part in the government of the county. He should like to see the gnat public spirit of Llanelly in pro- viding the fine Townhall, for which it had not much use, rewarded by one Assize being held there, by one or more meetings of the County Council, and one or more meetings of the Quarter Sessions being held there, and that everything should be done to recognise the gr at importance of Llanelly in the economy of Carmarthenshire.

THE WHITE FLAG. Air W. N. Jones said that he wauld like to say at the outset that he brought forward this motion at the request of the members of the Eastern division at a meeting held in that hall. He was sorry that he had not pro- posed Llandilo as the place for the Central Offices. Because he was convinced from the large attendance that it was the most central place. Several Voices: Notice of motion. Air AV. N. Jones said that this was the usual way in which a member for the Eastern division was listened to. It was in conse- quence of the unkind treatment accorded to members not from Llanelly-- Several Voices: No, no. Air W. N. Jones: Here you are again. Air J. Johns: Will you go on, sir (laughter) Air W. N. Jones said that this was not brought forward in consequence of any feel- ing which the town of Llianelly had against the town of Carmarthen. He wished to sug- gest that there was no feeling whatever with regard to the two towns. The motion was brought forward because members from the Eastern division had not been received with that kindness by some members of the West- ern division. He was not going so far as to say all. Mr J. Williams: No (laughter). Mr W. N. Jones said that they knew very well that meetings had been held at Carmar- then on a Saturday. They did not object to the Central Offices being established at Car- marthen but they asked on public grounds as well as on personal grounds that committee meetings be not held on Saturday. Some of the members of the Western Division had not only refused to accede to that. request; they had sneered at it. The outcome of all this was this resolution (hear, hear). A sugges- tion for compromise had been made by Sir Lewis and by other friends from the Western division with the view of doing away with any ill-feeling which this might cause. As far as he was concerned he was prepared to agree to a compromise. He hoped that a compromise would be arrived at which would do away Avith the feeling between the Eastern and Western divisions and between the industrial and the agricultural parts of the county. Re- ferring to the treatment which the members for the Eastern division received, he said that lie was ashamed to read the report of the meeting at Carmarthen in the press the other day. Professor Jones: I was not there. Mr W. N. Jones: That accounts for it. When members from the Llanelly district spoke they were met with the cries of "Time up," "Don't give him any more time, Mr Chairman." One of the members for the "Western division had that morning spoken of "ungentlemanly" conduct Air J. Johns: Mr Rees defended himself. The Chairman Order! Mr W. N. Jones asked that he be not inter- rupted. Air J. Johns: Keep to the point then. Mr AV. N. Jones: You are not chairman of this meeting. When you are, I will submit to your ruling. The Chairman appealed to the members for better order. There was too much inter- ruption going on. Air W. N. Jones went on to say that he would like to know whether it was the feel- ing of the meeting that there should be a compromise. He did not believe that the vote which had been taken was any precedent for this. It would be a very close thing whichever side won. and it would be possible to alter it in the future by a snatch vote. He trusted that the compromise would be of a permanent character and would do away with aill the unkind feeling -which had existed from time to time. He did not know whether it was the wish of the metting to have a com- promise. Air D. Stephens: Yes, yes. Mr J. Lewis (Aleiros Hall): Let us know what it is (hear, hear). Mr W. N. Jones said that if there was a desire to have a compromise they could very easily bring it about. He was qiute prepared to withdraw Clause B so that the Central Office-i Avould still remain at Carmarthen. It had never been the wish of anyone in the town of Llanelly or in the Eastern division to remove these offices from Caimarthen, if it had not been for what had taken place. It had been said up and down the county that the members who lived outside the town of Llanelly had been bribed to support this resolution. He threw that statement back in the teeth of those who stated it. He denied there was any truth in it. He would AvithdraAv the clause relating to the Central Offices and alter the first clause to read so that the meeting of the Council and its Com- mittees be held alternately at Carmarthen, Llanelly, and Llandilo, and that no meetings be held on Saturday. Mr J. Lloyd: Do I understand Mr W. N. Jones to mean that Clause B is simply a pistol held at the head of the members for the Western division. Air W. N. Jones said they did not want to hear of Eastern or Western. Mr John Lloyd: You said they did not want the offices at all at Llanelly. Air W. X. Jones: I said we had to do some- thing to bring you to your seniles. Air J. Lloyd That is a pistol. Air W. N. Jones: You can call it a bag gun if you like. 1-11 Mr Daniel Stephens said that they bad better agree to a compromise. He did not see why this could not be settled without any urther delay. If it could not be settled that day it could lie arranged by a committee. Professor Jones said that he was very sorry that there was all this bad blood, and he was very soa-n-y that there Avere these interrup- tions now and then. He quite sympathised with a good deal which had been said by Air W, N. Jones. He did not agree with holding the meetings on Saturday. He had always been against it, although it was comrenient to himself.

PROFESSOR JONES ON THE "COAIPROAHSE." Proceeding, the Profesto-r said that as far as the compromise was concerned he did not see mmch in it. He would take Clause B. for instance. They were going to concede it. Were they not bound to concede it ? If the County Council wished, even if it were unani- mous, could it remove the offices, from Car- malrthen ? Mr W. N. Jones: Not the offioes, but the work of the offioes. Professor Jones said that he did not wish to defend the law; but according to the Act of 1888, the Standing Joint Committee had the appointment of Clerk of the Peace, and by virtue of that office, the Clerk of the County Council. Was it not a fact that when the present Clerk was appointed, he had to sign an agreement to attend at Caimairthen every day and to hold his office there? If this were to be passed, it would have to be sent to the Standing Joiait Committee. Mr W. N. Jones: We can do that, if it is necessary. Professor Jones said that this was really no concession at all so far as this was concerned. Air Nicholas would have to bring his clerks with him, so that it would be impracticable to hold the committee meetings here and there. That would be expensive and trouble- sotnie, aiid he for one could not agree to that. Mr W, Mabon Davies: Hea,r) hear (laugh- ter). Professor Jones said that they had no con- trol over the Education Committee which could hold its meetings where it liked. As I to the meetings of the County Council he was quite prepared to agree to the present ar- rangement. He had been agiaanst holding all the meetings at Carmarthen. Mr David Evans said that he agreed that some of the members of the Western Division had been guilty of the conduct referred to; but the Eastern division was not quite free from it either (hear, hear). He was quite pre- pared to accept the proposal to hold the meetings of the County Council alternately at Carmarthen, Llanelly, and Llandilo. He quite agreed with the suggest,ion that meet- ings be not held on Saturday. The result of holding the Education sub-Committees on Saturday had been that all the work hid fallen into the hands of a few who found it convenient to attend those meetings. But he was not prepared to accept the proposal to remove the committee meetings from Car- marthen (hear, hear). Mr D. C. Parry asked if the County Coun- cil meetings included the quarterly meetings of the Alain Roads Committee ("No, no.")

-i BIT OF TAA1MANY A1ETHODS. Sir John q*jli;a.,ms said that he was ex- tremely glad that there was any chance of settling this cleavage which had taken place between the agricultural and industrial por- tions of the county. It would be disastrous if it were continued, and it Avould be similar to another fight which they had seen, and which had brought disaster on the whole of M ales. It would be absolutely impossible to hold the committee meetings at LlaneHy; but it might be arranged to hold the Counoil meetings there. Mr W. N. Jones had said that there had been no attempt to bribe any members. After that statement he was bound to read a portion -of a letter which had been sent to him. Some other member made some remark to Sir John; but he said "I will read it," and read the following:— I I am amply justi,fied in telling you that any western ailderanan who votes for LlaneHy or stays away from Llandilo on Wednesday will be absolutely salfe of being re-elected to the aldermanic chair." He said it was absolutely abhorrent to tiend such a letter to any member. He did not think that any member of the Council could be aware of it. Mr W. N. Jones: Did you have that from a member of the Council. Sir John IVilliamis: I said I did not know that any member of the Council was aware of it. There are many reverend gentlemen here who devote their lives to preaching righteousness. I hope they will show their abhorenoe of that a,bominahle letter. Mr John LeAvis (Aleiros Hall) suggested that the County Council go round as sugges- ted. and that the Maan Roads Council meet- ings be held twice at Carmarthen and twice at Llandilo. Mr John Lloyd said that he was quite will- ing to compromise; but he was not prepared to compromise with a pistol at his head. He was a Welshman; he was easily led, but he would be bloAved if he would be driven. He thought it was a veiy good suggestion to hold tHe Alam Roads Council in turns at Llandilo and Carmarthen. Rev W, Davies: I think that we ought to include the Education Committee. Professor Jones: I am sorry to object to the vice-chairman. I do not think he is in order. IVe have no control over them. Rev W. Davies: li-e can recommend to them. They would undoubtedly obey our re- commendations. Mr John Willims said that he was quite in sympathy Avith the proposal of Mr J. Lewis. Llandilo was a very convenient place, and that little hall was very suitable. He did not enjoy meetings at the hadl at Llanelly at all. He was sorry the architect did not arrange it better. There was a good deal of desultory talk and bargaining, and Air A. Stephens referred to the interrup- tions to which the Eastern members were subjected. Mr John Lewis (Meiros Hall) said that if the.re were one member of the Council ruder titan another it was Mr Alfred Stephens. He had sneered at Mr John Lloyd and called him Lord Abergwili. Air A. Stephens said that he had never done anything of the kind except when he had been first anteaprupted. He had never canvassed members outside the door. Air T. Jones said that the County Rate Basis committee ought to go round. He had been summoned to a meeting when there was no business to be done. All J. Johns said that if members were pre- pared to make the sacrifice which he had made. He had often driven ten miles in all weathers to attend a committee meeting. He was doing his best for the ratepayers. It was easier to reach Carmarthen by train from Llanedy than to drive ten miles over a rough road in all weathers. The committee meet- ings had been held on Saturday because it had been found impossaible very often to get a quorum on any other day. Certain members acted like the dog in the manger. Thev would not. attend the meetings and then they complained that others monopolised the busi- ness (applause). It was very hard to have fault found Avith one, Avhen he had done his best. If it would assist the compromise he would abandon all meetings on Saturday.

CONCILIATION. Continuing, Air John suggested to Mr J. Lloyd that he should not endeavour to get revenge by leaving Llanelly out of the circuit (laughter). He asked Mr Lloyd to show a for- giving spirit, and to return good for evil (laughter and applause). After a good deal oi discussion, it was agreed that the quarterly meetings of the Council and of the Alain Roads Council be helldalterualtely at Carmarthen, Llanelly and Llandiilo; that no committee meetings be heid on Saturday, and that the committee meetings be held as at present, that is to say at Carmarthen, except when for special reasons a school or a bridge has to be visited. Hev .d. Fuller Mills said thart he had come tiwlie to oppose the dirastic resolution which had been proposed. He was exoeedingiy glad of the tone that the meeting liad taken. There were many things which had taken i place nn the years he had been there of which lie could not approve. He. hoped that in future there would be manifested a better spirit such as isuggested by Sir John AVilliams. The meeting then ended.

CONWIL. THE Right of WAY Ca.-i:. This case came to an end at the Carmarthen County Court, on Thursday the 19th inst. Mr AA". AV. T. Prosser. who appeared for the plaintiffs, ap- plied for all injunction to restrain the defen- dant crossing certain fields. An agreement had been come to by Avhieh the plaintiffs had agreed to grant the owner and occupier of Lanfawr a ligho of footway over the rough ground on the upper portion of one of the fields fcl- the sum of £20, the owner of Lan- fawr to ei-ect two stiles and to keep them in repair. These terms were agreed to by Air W alis Jones, who appeared for the defendant, and the case terminated, eaeb party paving his own costs.

BIR TH. Lkwis,.— July 23rd. at Richmon House, Rich- mond terrace, Carmarthen, the wife of Mr David Lewis, of a daughter* DEATH. Jenkins.—July 22nd, at Fenyside, Florence Alay, only daughter of Air Walter Jenkins (formerly of Guildhall Square, Caa-martheu) aged 32 yeans.