The Carmarthen Weekly Reporter

Baden Powell's Family Motto. Ths following correspondence between Morien" and Mr W. Waters, of Enirys House, Carmarthen (foreman at Messrs Spurrell and Son and a well-known authority on Welsh philology, has take place recently in the "South Wales Daily News" :— Oct. 4th, 1900. Sir,—In General Baden-Powell's published letter I find it stated his family motto (Welsh) is Ac nid yw pwyll pyd." This is not complete. The motto in full is—" Ac nid yw pwyll pyd pw." In English, "If it be not prudent it is danger." Pyd" is not now used in Welsh for danger except in com- pounds, as in pydew, which should be spelt "pydyw," or it is danger." Pyriew" it iWelsh for a wynch or a pit such as that into which Joseph was cast by his brethren. I have written to Mrs Baden Powell and to my friend, Mr Spiridion, Duke-street, pointing out the ommission of the terminal yw" from the family motto of the latest of the Kimmerian heroes, so distinguished all the world over in all ages of the ancient world. We must have the motto correctly spelt on the casket which Cardiff, the metropolis of iWales (Kimmeria) is going to award to this intrepid Ap Hywel.-I am, &c., MORIEN. P.S.—See pyd" in Dr Ow-en Pughe's Welsh and English Dictonary. The full motto is there given. Oct. 6th, 1900. Sir,—If strict accuracy is to be observed in the motto to be engraved on the casket which is to be presented by the citizens of Cardiff to the gallant hero of Mafcking, allow me to state that the motto, as given by Morien in your issue of the 4th inst., is hardly up to the mark. It ran :—"Ac nid yw pwyll pyd yw." This is a clumsy modernism. The motto should not begin with a conjunction (Ac), as given by Morien, nor with a prepo- sition (Ar) as Pughe has it, but rather with an expletive. The more correct rendering would be-" A'r nid yw pwyll, pyd yw." But perhaps the best rendering—which, besides being more in keeping with the terse style of Welsh maxims, is probably the original version-would be thus :—'A'r nid pwyll, pyd yw." I am, &c., W. WATERS. Carmarthen, Oct. 5th, 1900. Oct. 9th, 1900. Sir,—It is humane to deal gently with our critics, but I have not grace enough to re- frain from saying that the letter of W. Waters, Carmarthen, touching Dr Owen Pughe's translation and m yown of the Baden Powell Welsh family motto affords another illustration of the truth of the old saying. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." "Ac nid yn pwyll, pyd yw." Such is the motto. Dr Pughe does not give Ar in- stead of "Ac," as W. Waters alleges he does. But the point is the use of the Ac in the motto. Ac 'is now used exclusively as a conjunction, but anciently, as Pughe shows. Ac was used also as a relative pronoun as who, which, and that. But the present prac- tice is to use "Ag" for "that." The motto can be rendered, that which is not done with deliberation (pwyll) is a danger literally may result in a pitfall (pydyw, or pydew). Every scholar is aware of the frequent im- possibility of translating idiomatic phraseo from one language to another. Dr Owen Pughe renderd the motto into idiomatic English as follows —If it be not prudence it is a danger, and I modestly followed his lead. I cannot think of an English word conveying the same meaning as the Welsh word "pwyll." It means walking slowly and warily. Pughe, as we see. sought to convey the sense by the word prudence. But Pughe took care not to modernise the spelling; that would have destroyed its ancient flavour. But W. Waters, were he to find in his ancestral cellar a bottle of port of a vintage three centuries ago, would rub off the sign of age, and then label the bottle with the democra- tic name of Gilbey."—I om, &c.. MORIEN. Oct. 9th. 1900. Oct.12 th, 1900. Sir,—I repeat that Morien is not to be de- pended upon for strict accuracy. He seems to ignore my short letter of the 6th instant by offering some two or three jokes and applying to me the remark that "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." He tries to make capital of one word only in the motto. Let us see whether he is reliable or not regarding this one word. He asserts that Dr Owen Pughe does not begin the motto with Ar, but Ac. Then Morien has never seen the doctor's second and improved edition of 1832, in which he does begin the motto with Ar. And this word is probably a misprint for A'r. So much for Morien's pre- cision. The family motto, says Morien, should begin with the relative pronoun Ac, notwith- standing the fact that Pughe altered the word from Ac in his first and imperfect edi- tion to Ar or A'r in his second edition. And further, the Rev. Chancellor D. Silvan Evans who is unquestionably the highest living au- thority as a Celtic scholar, in his new Welsh- English dictionary does not give the word Ac tancient usage) as a relative pronoun at all, and distinctly states that the relative pro- noun Ag (Morien's Ac) never begins a sen- tence (see page 320), whilst the relative pro- nouns A and A'r do. Therefore Morien's first word in the motto must of necessity be a con junction, thus making it a real jumble. To verify his assertion, will Morien be good enough to quote some ancient or medieval mottoes commencing with the relative pro- noun Ac or Ag ? If he cannot do this, then the motto should begin with A'r. A few years ago Sir George Baden Powell, an elder brother of the general, informed a friend of his in NortH Wales (who is a thorough Welshman, and whose name I could give) that his family motto was purely Welsh This friend committed the motto to paper, and it read thus: A'r nid pwyll, pyd yw" And this, I venture to assert, is the correct rendering. But, there Sir George knew very little concerning his family motto, and Morien would probably tell him that" a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." Druan 0 Morien.-I am, Ac., w. WATERS. Carmarthen, Oct. 10th, 1900. P.S.-I would not trouble you with this second letter, only it is a pity that the in- tended present to General Baden-Powell be handed down to posterity with an incorrect Welsh motto.—W. W. Oct. 18th, 1900. MORIEN AND THE WELSH LANGUAGE. Sir,—I do not think your correspondent Morien, in his attempt to explain obsolete or ancient Welsh words and proverbs in your wide-circulating paper, should be allowed to pass unnoticed. It would not be fair to the public. To begin. In your issue of the 4th and 9th inst., he obstinately insists upon giving the wrong version of the Baden-Powell family motto. Surely Morien cannot be a Welsh- man, or else he would not have mutilated this motto as he has done. Allow me here to finalyl settle this question. If Morien will turn to the Myvyrian Arehjcoloo-y," vol. 3 page 148, he will soe this particular Welsh proverb as it has been handed down to us from ancient MSS. The wording in the "Myv. Arch." is as follows —" A'r nid yw pwyll, pyd yw." The interpretation evidently is Where care or discretion or prudence is not exercised, there is danger." How far the truthfulness of this Welsh proverb was ex- j emplified in the conduct of the resourceful defender of Mafeking we all know too well. I may here remark that the "Myvyrian Archeology," as many of your readers re doubtless aware, is a work containing collec- tions of ancient Welsh MSS, compiled and edited by Dr W. Owen Pughe, Owen Myvyr, and lolo Morganwg, and was printed :n the present century. As, therefore, there cannot be the slightest doubt regarding the exact wording of the motto, it is to be hoped that whenever it comes to be imLcibeJ "JI any article to be presented to the M.i ]■>- General, the above version will be faithfully followed. The short word "Ae," according to Mc-rien was anciently" used as a relative rcn^nri. This is not correct, and Morien has failed to produce a single instance from any ancient Welsh writer to verify his assertion. He fur trior states that Ac and Ag were anciently interchangeable; true, but the two words were either adverbs or conjunctions. "Ac" is not at present, and never has been, used as a relative pronoun. Morien's attempt to explain the meaning of the word pwyll" is most absurd. It means walking slowly or warily." So says Morien, and he seems to imply that there is some mystery around the word but it can be easily understood by any intelligent per- son, the English synonyms given by Pughe being thus, That clears a course forward impulse, reason, wit, sense, discretion, pru- dence." In compound words 'reason" or intellect is generally implied Dyn gor- phwyllog," an insane person Ammhwyll" insanity "Ammhwyllo," to become insane. The last word I shall notice is Pydew." This word, says Morien, is derived from "Pyd," and should be spelt "pydyw," which means It is danger." How misleading In a short communication from the venerable Chancellor Silvan Evans, Llanwrm, who is so well-known for his comprehensive and care- fully compiled dictionaries, that gentleman incidentally remarks, "Pydew has nothing to do with Pyd but is simply the Welsh form of the Latin 'puteus' (pit, well.") Truly, as Morien reminded me, "a little knowledge ig a dangerous thing," but Morien himself possibly feels the force of the old saying by this time.—I am, &c., W. WATERS. Carmarthen, Oct. 17th, 1900. [In a subsequent letter in the South Wales Daily News (not, however, as a continuation of the above correspondence), Morien gives the correct rendering of the motto as above, having received it from Mrs Baden Powell He has also discovered the nearest English synonysm for Pwyll is prudence (not walking slowly and warily," as previously given by him); and he further informs the public that Pyd is the British word for pit, although the Rev Chancellor Silvan Evans, as seen above, says that Pydew has nothing to do with Pyd." Strange, Morien. —WAV.] Morien's" letter is as follows

GENERAL BADEN-POWELL'S WELSH MOTTO. Sir,-I have been honoured with a letter from Mrs Baden-Powell enclosing a litho- graphed copy of the heraldic family arms of the Buden-Powell family and also a short pedigree of General Baden-Powell's Kimmer- ian ancestors of Wales. This pedigree proves that General Baden-Powell descends from one of the most illustrious lines of Britannic chief tains who flourished here and led the Briton heroes long before Hengist and Horsa, the Raven and the White Horse, ever saw the white coast of Kent or Cyntedd Brydain. In her letter Mrs Baden-Powell thanks the writer for his kind attention in his correction of a word in a Cardiff newspaper giving the Baden-Powell family motto, and which had omitted the terminal yw of the motto.. The family have always ended the motto with the word yw. I have replied, stating that Cam- bria is as proud of General Baden-Powell as is his own mam. I have added we. shepherds of the Welsh mountains are anxious to ear- mark him correctly by giving the proper ren- dering of the motto of his gallant race. Canon D. Silvan Evans, Llanwrin, the author of the great Welsh and English levi- con, now isuing from the Caermarthen Press, writes as follows "I cannot suggest a heter translation of the word pyd than that given by Dr. Owen Pughe, viz., danger. There is not, so far as I know, a single Eng- lish word that expresses themeaning of the word. pwyll. Prudence, perhaps, come the nearest at least, it comes sufficiently near in most instances." There is no doubt the Welsh pwll for a lake implies that the stream there has slowed." That is the literal meaning of the Welsh word. On the family scroll of the arms the motto is. "A'r nyd-yw pwyll, pyd yw." "That which is not done prudently may result in a pitfall." Pyd is the British form of the Eng- lish word pit. Pyd-yw is rendered in the Welsh Bible Pydew." We have pyd in enbyd (dangerous). A villian is in Welsh described as dyn enbyd.—I am, & MORIEN. -e

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Toryism and Orthodoxy. THE EVILS OF STATE CHURCHISM. BY NONCONFORMIST LIBEITAL. Unfortunately, it is during election times, we see men donning false colours more persis- tently than at any other time. Men whom one regards as being most sensible ano strong minded, are, during these times, foi the sake of party, drawn into the vortex ol Orthodoxy, and tkcn give expression to state- ments, which, in normal life, they would scorn to be the authors of. During this last election, when there has been no specific lines by which one could define Liberalism and Toryism, these inconguities have been far more noticeable than previously. It has been no uncommon experience to meet a man, who during the last four years, has treated Religion with silent contempt or indifference —he would speak slightingly of parsons, preachers, and priests, and condemn their presence on corporate and municipal bodies, and remark, as a final home-drive What do they know or do ? They are rendered narrow- minded with the bridle of theology. What you want on Councils and Committees are men with business experience, who know what men and things are." Although we admit there is an element of truth in his statement, we fail to find his definite stand- ing, as, within three months, he so directly contradicts himself. He apparently possesses a dual doctrine. Although he likes to see his wife and children attend church, he regu- larly refrains from going more than twice a year himself, beause, as ho says, he does not agree with them. He evidently sees some usefulness in error. Although he preeonally rejects the Church's teaching, he omits to see the folly of having his children educated in error. He also wishes his wife to attend church regularly, because it is respectable and. good for business. He screens his own dissent from orthodox opinion, because he re- gards Orthodoxy as useful to other people, and contends that orthodox teachings may be "mcrally useful without being intellectually sustainable." In spite of one's admiration for him as a levelheaded business man, one yet finds it hard to conceive by what mental process he arrives at these two separate conclusions at the same time, playing the fool with him- self and his reason. Six months ago this man would scorn the idea of being thought a partisan, or of tampering with truth in order to sustain a case, yet now he is heard to express his surprise at the suggestion of Disestablishment and ask in seeming earnest- ness What sort of a moral and religious state do you expect the country to drop into in the absence of the Church ?" I answer The moral state would steadily improve that Religion would, by virtue of its being freed from the bonds of Orthodoxy, attain a standard which would embrace the common truths on which all existent religious bodies are agreed, and thereby tend to produce that social and religious harmony which is so con- spicuous by its absence now." He forgets (though probably he is ignorant of the fact) that our Colonies have no established church —that they have a higher state of morality than the old conutries have that before the disestablishment of the Church in Ireland, Catholics and Protestants were pitted at daggers points in almost every case. The comparative religious quiteude in Ireland of to-day speaks sufficiently as to need no further comment. Without going into the technicalities of the various creeds, their merits or demerits, let us analyse the Established Church, and see what she has done and what she has not done during her reign absolute in these islands. We will jump over the period from its inception—which, according to Guizot. clates back to Feudal times-to the Reforma- tion period, when we find that the Estab- lished church was the Established Church still, in spite of the radical change pre- scribed by Government from Protestantism to Catholicism, and again to Protestanism. Like the old Vicar of Bray, those whose living depends on the existence of the Estab- lished Church of to-day would also be bishops and vicars in spite of any change of doctrine to be taught. In the Established Church of to-day doctrines are being taught, and prac- tices recognised which the Act of Uniformity strictly forbade. Those whose train of thoughts have a ten- dency towards Orthodoxy, or rather, those who are content to be orthodox (for it is much easier to be so than otherwise, as then they are flowing with the tide of popular opinion), and those who place material advancement before honest thought and indi- vidual reasoning, will certainly float with the tide to gain the advanced material position they have foremost in view) arc mostly of opinion that nothing but good can emanate from the Established Church. Let me place a fact before you, which is in itself directly opposed to its own teaching. At the time when the Established Church in Ireland was under the control of the English ecclesiastics, tithes were for centuries collected for its: while 95 per cent. of its contributors were oposed to its doctrines. A village, contain- ing, say 300 inhabitants, would possess an Established besides Dissenting and Roman Catholic Churches. These latter would be attended to the full and overflowing, and would depend for their maintenance (like the Welsh dissenting Chapels) on the volun- tary contributions on their worshippers. The Established Church would have five or six. or even a dozen, communicants, its vicar well paid, and expenses promptly met with money compulsorily drawn by law from those with whom they are at variance. The matter of having any one, or body of men, dictate the line of religious thought which a nation shall follow is a thing of the past with a people at our stage of civilisation Many who teach and many who subscribe heavily (among them, Cecil Rhodes, who is a confirmed Agnostic) towards missionary or- ganisation, do not accept the dictrines of the Established Church. State supportecl7 religious teaching in any form, of any creed, by any means, whether it be in English Protestant or Irish Catholic universities-there is really but little differ- ence between their doctrines as now taught -or in National Schools, I am strenuously opposed to. What are the National Schools ? They stand in the same relation to the Church and the Conservative Party as Sandhurst does to the Army. You mean to continue to impose on us a doctrine laid down by bigots some 500 years ago. Had you the ghost of a chance you would compel us to act (you cannot filch from us that priceless gift-freedom of thought) in conformity with your orthodoxy. Happy for your orthodoxy that you still retain your holdfast, the House of Lords Respecting the assertions of your religious leaders that because of the truthful teaching of the Church, it must live for ever, you know to be untrue and if you and your church arc so sanguine, concerning its superiority in truthfulness, why are you so reluctant to allow it to stand or fall by its merits ? It is a maxim with Political Economic's to encourage a promising new industry by sub- sidy, but if, after a few years of fostering it 1 will not support itself, it is then considered J inadvisable to further artificially suppcrt it. At the time when the American constitu- tion was drafted by Hamilton and Jefferson, and approved by Washington, it was no doubt the best policy for the young nation to follow, seeing that it had been, and in view of the possibility of again being, under Conservative oppression. The conditions which existed at the time of the Reformation warranted the observance of rules laid down for the conduct of the Church, and were, no doubt, the very best under the circumstances but you must remember that was some 400 years ago, when politics were in a state of transition from the Feudal System. The Americans of to-day in their changed inter- national relations, after having abided by the terms of the Constitution for only a century and a quarter have broken away. circum- stances do not permit, and national opinion does not approve of, the continuance of an ancient policy which is considered detrimen- tal to society's present interests. There are many Americans who are in favour of retain- ing the old conventions-those of Washing- ton and Monroe—but they did not have a parallel to the House of Lords to uphold their opinions and foster the interests of the minority as we have. You contend that the Established Church performs a variety of useful functions. Possibly it does. But then, on the other r hand, you have your ceremonies surrounded by such a number of mystic formalatics that your people become slaves to Formality, and repeat hundreds of times a year matter which they do not believe, and which to them is per fttctly meaningless. You continue to edu- cate in a formula you do not understand, by people who do understand, but do not believe I in that formula. Your apparent acquiescence in these dogmas can only be charact jrised as a case of preponderance of affection ove,- reason. You must charge yourself with dis- obedience to your own convictions for the sake of conformity to popular opinion. /ru desire to prolong the reign of autocr.r.ic die cation, because, maybe, you have a vestd in- terest in these abusive and unprogressive customs. You cannot contend that Nonconformists have less brain than Churchmen. In all pro- bability Dissenters minds are much more fer- tile seeing that their views are not narrowed down by absurd dogmas and mcaiiiiigless con- ventions. I would also like to point out the ludicrous position you hold in Nonconformist eyes. You pay men t- 300 or zC400 a year to minister to a parish of 30 or 40 communicants, and you pay anywhere between t5,,000 to tl5,000 to others who zealously connive at their sub- ordinates continually breaking their countrys law. You know all this. You also know that these professional upholders of dogmatic sys- tems are possessed of vast social influence. which is maintained by salaries which we very unwillingly pay and what is worse, anything short of felony is counted insufficient ground for an undesirable clergyman's re- moval. It was recently decided that although a deaf man is held unfit for spiritual minis- tration, an idiot is eligible, provided his sight and hearing are unimpaired. This law needs repairing. Let us hope that the future will see men with incrased power of mind, men with a commanding grasp of principles, with the ability and sincerity to follow out ideas to their full conclusion, who care less for the loss of of social position than they do for the maintenance of truth and honest expression of thought. This above all-To thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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Suicide of an Auctioneer at Newcastle-Emlyn. In a former issue of tho Reporter we repor- ted the inquest on Mr Gwilym Davies Lloyd, of Newcastle Emlyn, who died on the 12th inst., under peculiar circumstances. The deceased was an auctioneer, and an assurance agent. The adjourned inquest was held at Newcastle Emlyn on the 25th ult. (Thursday) by Mr Thomas Walters, coroner. The certi- ficate of the analyst (Mr Seyler, of Swansea) showed the stomach to contain a large quan- tity of carbolic acid mixed with olive oil in the proportion of one part of acid to 9 of oil, (a common unofficial preparation). The jury returned a verdict of Suicide during tem- porary insanity.

Carmarthen Board of Guardians. The fortnightly meeting of the Carmarthen Board of Guardians was held at the Board- room on Saturday. Mr D. L. Jones, of Der- IWYII, presided. There were also present Miss Hancocke, Carmarthen Miss Gwyn, St. Ishmaels Mrs Price, St. Clears Rev! A. Fuller Mills, Carmarthen Messrs T. Pugh, Abcrnant David Thomas and John Thomas, Conwil J. Rees John, Laugharne D. Horries, Llangunnock David Thomas. Llanfihangel Herbert How e] Is, Llangen- deirne J. T. Williams, Llanginning David Davies, Llanpumsaint G. Barret Evans, Llanstephan John Phillips, Llanwinio Theo. Howells and J. S. Williams, Trelech; J. Patagonia Lewis, Jonathan Phillips, Thos. Thomas, Carmarthen. MASTER'S REPORT. The Master reported that there 81 inmates in the house, the same number as on the corresponding day last year 31 vagrants had visited the house as compared with 33 in the corresponding fortnight last year. Thomas Wiliams (" Tom the tailor ") aged 85 years from the parish of Llanstephan had died in the house on the 23rd of October. A parcel of illustrated papers for the inmates had been sent by Mrs Reed, of Spilman-st. TREASURER'S REPORT. The Treasurer reported that there was a balance in hand of £1,954 1Gs 9d. OUTDOOR PAUPERISM. The reports of the relieving officers showed the state of outdoor relief for the fortnight ending on the previous board day to have been as follows 1st week, 986 relieved, being a decrease of 86 as compared with the corresponding week last year expenditure, £131 Is Id, being a decrease of JC1 9s lid. 2nd week 980 relieved, being a, decrease of 9s expenditure, zCl26 7s., being a derease of £ 4 17s Gel. LUNATIC'S MONEY. The Clerk said that he would like to bring forward a question affecting the relations between the Asylum Authorities and them- selves. At present when a person was ad- mitted to the Asylum on a magistrates' order h3 was admitted as a lunatic (being after- wards transferred to the private class if thought necessary. Money in the possession of such patients was handed over to the Medical Superintendent of the Asylum (Dr. Goodall) who handed it to the relatives. It would be preferrable if the money were handed over to the officer of the Guardians. so that the Guardians could be re-imbursed for the cost of removal and certifying which usually amounted to £3 or £ 4, and which it was often difficult to recover from the rela- tives. He did not make any complaint against the Medical Superintendent, or even suggest that the doctor did not act quite legally in what he did. He suggested, how- ever, that the Asylum authorities be asked to hand the money over to the officers of the Board. It was decided to make application accor- dinglyc. The Rev A. Fuller Mills thought it would be better if only the money due to the Guar- dians were handed over to them. He thought the relatives would be safer in that way (laughter).

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Carmarthen Joint Counties I Asylum. QUARTERLY MEETING OF VISITORS. I L A quarterly meeting of the Committee of Visitors of the Joint Counties Lunatic Asy iim was held at that institution on Thurs- lay, October 2-Itli. In the absence of the :hairman (Dr Griffith) Professor Jones pre- sided. There were also present: Mr John Lloyd, Penybank Mr H. Jones-Daves, Glyneiddan Mr William Jones, Handilo Rev W. Griffiths, Maenygroes Rav I ewis James, Narberth Mr J. Howard Griffiths, St. Davids and Mr Sketch, Pembroke Dock the Clerk to the Visitors (Mr W. Morgan Griffiths) and the Medical Super- intendent (Dr Goodall). THE AUDITOR. A long discusson took place over the appointment of auditor in the place of the late Mr John Thomas, of Narberth. A letter was read from Mr C. M. Williams, of Aberystwith, strongly objecting to the appointment of an auditor unt:¡ the adver- tisement has been issued in due course, according to the Standing Order. After a desultory discussion it was agreed to adver- tise the appointment at a salary of £ 40 a year. The duties will be defined by the Finance Committee and the appointment will be made at a special meeting of the Visitors to be held on the 20th December. A NEW ENGINE. The bad condition of the pumping engine had before been discussed; and it was now decided to accept the tender of Messrs Crossley Bros, for a new engine to cost £ 200 inclusive. THE HOURS OF THE ATTENDANTS Professor Jones (in accordance with the notice given) then brought fonvard the question of the hours worked by attendants at that Asylum. He said that they often heard complaints as to the long hours worked at that and other Asylums, that the work of the attendants was very hard, and that their hours were too long. He thought it would be well to ask the Com- mittee to consider the question. He would propose that a small committee consider the whole question with the Medical Supt. and see if it were possible to relieve the attendants a little. He found that on the average the attendants worked 14 hours a day or seven days a week. He was not quite certain whether the attendants there had to work longer hours than had the attendants at other asylums. He believed they did work longer hours there than at some. He thought they ought to do their best to shorten the hours. He found that the attendants were there every week from Saturday to Saturday and they were off duty only one half-Sunday every three weeks. Dr Goodall said that they got a little leave on the week days. I b Professor Jones said he believed that on an average the attendants worked 14 hours a day for seven days a week. Mr John Lloyd asked if the hours were not from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. or from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Dr Goodall said that those on the day staff worked from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. those on the night staff from 8 p.m. to to 6 a.m. Half an hour was allowed for eachmeal. Professor Jones They have not that. Dr Goodall said they were supposed to have it. They went in messes to meals. Making every allowance he calculated that the men worked 86 hours a week. On the Sunday out the attendants were allowed off duty from 12.30 p.m. to 10 p.m., and until 6 a.m. the next morning in the case of the married men. Rev W. Griffiths Were not the long hours taken into consideration in fixing the b salary. Professor Jones I don't think so. Rev W. Griffiths Don't you think they took that into consideration when the salaries were fixed? Profesor Jones I don't know when the salaries were fixed. That has nothing to do with the long hours. The man who is here for five years works the same number of hours as the man who has only been one year here but the salary is not the same. The experience is taken into consideration. Mr John Lloyd seconded Professor Jones proposition. The attendants were very much tied, especally on Sundays. I think a man should have a certain amount of time on Sundays to spend with his relatives or with his family if he is married. I think it would be better to have twelve hours a day, and twelve at night. The Clerk The night work is more trying. The matter was referred to the following committee :—Dr Griffith, Professor Jones, Mr John Lloyd, and the Rev Lewis James. Mr Sketch thought that the remunera- tion ought to be taken into account in the consideration of the matter. Professor Jones It is not much remu- neration. THE BATHING OF PATIENTS. Dr Goodall referred to the recommenda- tion of the Lunacy Commissioners that some officer should supervise the bathing of patients so as to see that it was properly carried out, and to report any bruises, skin diseases, etc., on the patients. At present, the bathing was supervised by the charge attendant on each side, an arrangement which was not desirable. Dr Goodall re- commended that a reliable second atten- dant on each side be appointed to do this work at an additional salary of Z-6 a year. —This was agreed to.

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Carmarthen Rural iiistrict Council. The m on inly meeting of the Carmarthen Rural District Council was held at, the Shire Hall, Carmarthen, on Saturday, at 1.30 p.m. Mr John Phillips, Caerllcon, presided. There were also present Miss Gwvn, St. Ishmacl; Mrs Price. St. Clears Messrs T. Pugh, Abernant D. Thomas and J. Thomas, Con- wil J. H. John, Laugharne J. Davies, Llanddarog D. Harriet, Llangunnock Dd. Thomas, Llanfihangel J. T. Williams, Llan- ginning Herbert Griffiths, Llangunnor E. Daniel, Llanllawddog D. Davies, Llanpump saint G. 15. Evans, Llanstephan David Evans, Newchurch Theo. Howells and J. S. Williams. Trelech.

LLANSTEPHAN WATER CARE TAKER. The Llanstephan Parish Council wrote stating that they were not in favour of the proposed increase to Mr David James, the caretaker of the Llanstephan water supply. Mr G. Barret Evans moved the adoption, of the report which was carried unanimously.

DAMP COURSES AND STABLES. A discussion arose over the plans of a stable attached to the Baptist Chapel at Rhvdargaueu. No damp-course was shown in the plan hut it was decided to pass the plan nevertheless despite ihe infraction of the bye-laws. It was stated that the horses would only be in the stable for an hour or so.

ROAD LABOURERS WAGES. The Surveyors put in their reports on the wages paid to the roadmen in their respec- tive districts. In the Llanllawddog district (Mr Prosser) the wages were as a. rule 14s a week in the Llangendeirne district (Mr Gomer Henry) 15s a week in the Carmar- then district (Mr Gad Protheroe), 14s and in the St. Clears district (Mr E. Morgan) 14s a. week. The Surveyors in most cases recom- mended increases to some of the men. The men recommended by the Surveyors had iu each case a rise of Is a week.

Carmarthenshire Stud Company. ANNUAL MEETING. The annual meeting of tho Carmarthen- shire Stud Company (Limited) was held at ilie liotu-'s ITead Hotel, Carmarthen, on Saturday. Mr W J Buckley, Pcnyfai, presiding.—In presenting their yearly report the directors, stated that the accounts showed a deficit balance of £ 121 19s lid Tho deficit balance last yoar(;ifter writing off £ 139 9s 2d, for dtpieeiatioo), was zC.62 Os 5d. Consequently during the past year had made a Joss uf £ 59 19s (id, the amount written off for depreciation being £ 111 1 Is 4d. This loss^was wholly attributable to the result of the hiri;;g of Vulcan II." Were it not fur that fact a small profit would have been n:ade. Though only a fee of three guineas per service was charged, only 80 mares were put to him instesd of the 100 expected. The company had lost £75 over the transac- tion. The stock of the company's horses had fetched very remunerative prices during the past year, in addition to which tlioy had been very successful at the local and county shows.—On the motion of the Chairman, the report was unanimously adopted, and the directors were re-appointed, except Mr Roderick, of Llettyglyd whose place was taken by Mr T H. Morgan, of Coedworgan.

Opeu-Aii Treatment of Consump- tion. HOSPITAL FOR NORTH WALES. PIIILANTIIROPIIY OF A MANCHES- TER MERCHANT. Mr W J Crossly, a Munch ester merchant, is about to expend a sum of £ 100,000 on the erc-ction in I1 lintshiro of a sanatoium for the open-air treatment of tuberculosis. The site is on the estate of the Duke of Vv eshninster, in tho district of Halkin. The intention is to build a largo central institution, where patients will reside, and to erect on tho slopo of the mountain a number of bungalows to which the) patients will resort in tho daytime to obtain the benefits of tho pure mountain air. The site will also be planted with pine trees.

Wedding of Mr A. J. Gould. On Thursday afternoon week Mr Arthur J GoulJ, the famous Welsh International footballer, was married at St Michael and All Angels, Bristol. The bride was Miss Lillian Agusta Smith, third daughter of the i a! t) Mr Samuel Smith, corn merchant, of Clyiha Park, Newport, and she was given away by her brother, Mr 11 lver Smith. She was attired its a handsome costume of white bengaline silk trimmed with crepe do chene, and carried a handsouib bouquet, the gift of the bridegroom. Her bridesmaids were the Misses Gladys, Beatrice, and Dorothy Smith, sisters of the bride, and they wore white chine silk gowna over pink skiits and black velvet picture hats. Mr Gould was accompanied by his brother, Mr Wyatt Gould, who acted as best man. The officiating clergy wore the Rev E Evans, vicar, aod the liov r G Morris. After the ceremony a reception was held at the residence of the bride's mother at Salisbury- load, Redland. There wero an exceedingly <arge number of beautiful presents, the briCigeroom's gifts to the bride being toilet table silver, and to tho bridesmaids gold brooches sot with pearls. After the recep- tion the bricio and bridegroom left for London and the Continent for the honey- moon.

Five (ieneralions. Fiva generations alive in one family, observes the Newcastle Journal, is not a common occurrence, but Mr William Smith, late of Hasweil, cud now residing at at Tursdale Colliery, can boast that he has lived to seo four generations of his descendants. Air Smith, who is eighty-nine years of age, has a daughter Mrs Slater, who is aged sixty-six, living at Haswell. Her daughter, Mrs Brown, aged forty-four, who resides at Eyhope, is the mother of Mrs Burnip, j.ged twent,.two, whe livc-3 in the same viilago^and the latter is a mother of a six months old baby, thus completing five generations. Mr Smith has nine children, forty-nine grand children, forty great grandchildren, and OLlG great-^rcut-grand child. > ■ y