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Carmarthenshire Standing Joint Committee. The quarterly meeting of the Carmarthen- shire Standing Joint Committee was held at the Shire-hall, Carmarthen, on Wednesday. Mr H. J. Thomas, Llanfynydd, presided. There were also present: Colonel Lewes, Llysnewydd; Mr Joseph Joseph, Llan- gennech Lieut.-General Sir James Hills- Johnes, V.C., G.C.B. Dr. Henry Lawrence, Narberth Mr J. S. Tregoning Mr Joseph Mayberry, Llanelly Mr W. N. Jones, Tirydail Mr Ernest Trabshaw, Llanelly Mr A. H. Jones, Penrallt; Mr C. W. Jones, Carmarthen Rev. W. Thomas, Whitland Mr John Johns, Parceithin Mr John Rees, Dolgwm Mr D. Watkins, Llandovery Mr C. E. Morris, Penbryr Mr J. Ll. Thomas, Tanlan Sir James Drummond, Bart. Mr John Phillips, Caerlleon Mr T. Jones, Penronw Mr J. L. Thomas, Pontardulais the Clerk (Mr T. Jones) the Deputy Clerk (Mr T. Douglas Jones) the Chief Constable (Captain Philipps); the Treasurer (Mr R. Peel Price), and the Surveyor (Mr D. Phillips). CONDOLENCE. The Chairman proposed a vote of con- dolence with the family of the late Mr D. Long Price, county treasurer. The motion was carried unanimously, the members rising to their feet in dead silence. CRIME IN THE COUNTY. The Chief Constable, in his report, stated that 539 had been proceeded against during the quarter, as compared with 829 during the corresponding quarter last year. Of these, 96 were proceeded against for b drunkenness 57 for vagrancy, and 22 for indictable offences, of whom two were committed for trial, 15 were summarily convicted, and five discharged. 111 persons had been proceeded against under the Swine Fever Movement Order. Of these, 88 were convicted. 81 were fined sums varying from 6d to 25 6d six were fined 5s and under and one had been fined 20S. The Clerk said that the fines imposed in these cases by the magistrates were so small that they would never stamp out swine- fever. The Chief Constable said that the discharge of the duties of inspectors under the Contagious Diseases (Animals) Act interfered with the ordinary duties of the police, except eight constables were added to the force. He expiained that the apparent decrease in the crime was due to the fact that a large batch of summonses for rates at Llanelly were included in last year's returns. THE LINGUISTIC ABILITIES OF THE FORCE. Mr John Johns asked how many members of the force were able to speak Welsh and to read and write Welsh. The Chief Constable said that hes could say how many spoke Welsh; but he could not say how many were able to read and write it. Mr John Johns moved that at the next meeting the Chief Constable produce a return giving that information,and where the officers were stationed, and of what rank. Rev W. Thomas seconded the motion. Mr W. N. Jones Will you add a rider to the effect that the same information be given regarding the members of the Standing Joint Committee? Mr John Johns I move my motion. You can move an amendment, if you like. The Chief Constable said he believed they were all able to speak Welsh except one or two. Mr John John said that by "speaking Welsh," he meant having such a knowledge of it as to be able to describe the clothes, peculiarities, and general appearance of a prisoner. The motion was carried unanimously. THE SALARIES OF SUPERIN- TENDENTS. The Chief Constable recommended that a scale of pay be fixed for the Supts. at the following rates :—On appointment, £ I 60 after two years, ZzSo after five years, Z200 after ten years, Z220. If the com- mittee did not give an advance, he could give each superintendent a constable to look after his horse, as he was empowered to do. This would cost the County about £150; the Government Inspector had asked him already why he did not do so. Rev W. Thomas moved that the report of the committee who had investigated the matter be adopted, viz., that no increase be made in the salaries. He produced figures showing that the Carmarthenshire super- intendents were better paid than any in Wales. Sir James Hills-Johnes moved that the matter be referred back to the committee. Sir James Drummond seconded. The former proposition was carried by the casting vote of the chairman—the voting being 11 against ir. Z, I( mally, it was agreed, on the proposition of Mr E Irubshaw, that the Clerk should bring to the next meeting a table showing how superintendents were paid in the oth £ police foices in South Wales. THE SWINE FEVER ORDER. The Clerk asked if the eight additional members required for the police force were so wanted in consequence of the Swine Fever Movement Order. The Chief Constable said that the constables were called up night and day, and no man in a single station was consequently able to attend properly to his patrol-duty. said lie had reason to believe that the order would shortly be rescinded. Col. Gwynne Hughes ■' I am told it is increasing lately. L The Clerk If it is increasing, God help us Col. J wynne-Hughes moved that eight additional constables be added to the force. Mr John Johns moved that the question be adjourned until the next meeting. In the meantime the order would probably be rescinded. Mr Joseph Joseph seconded. Sir James Hills-Johnes suggested that some of the old pensioned constables be I appointed temporarily for this work. The Chief Constable They would be no good unless you have them all over the county. MrW. N. Jones called attention to the fact that at a former meeting the committee had decided that power to issue these permits be given to County Councillors, District Council- lors, and chairmen of Parish Councils. The Board of Agriculture had declined to sanction that proposal; but he moved that application be again made to the Board for the purpose. Mr John Phillips, in seconding, said that if this order remained in force much longer, there would soon be no pigs to be had. A person had to go, perhaps, ten miles to get an order to move a sow and then if the order was any good, by the time it was obtained, no other sow on the farm could be moved for fourteen days. This would practically put a stop to the bleeding of pigs. Mr W. N. Jones altered his motion so as only to include magistrates and County Councillors. Sir James Hills-Johnes asked if any man who was busy that day would be bothered to be called up in the night to give orders to twenty fellows with pigs which were round the corner. It was ludicrous to expect anybody to do it. There ought to be men appointed fcr the work. Mr C. E. Morris said that if they appointed eight men additional to the force, the order might be rescinded in a few months, and the addition would be a perpetual burden on the county. Colonel Gwynne-Hughes suggested that eight men be appointed temporarily for the purpose. The Chief Constable said that he would not appoint men on such terms. He would not appoint men over whom he would not have control. Mr \V. N. Jones' motion was carried by 13 votes to 6. COUNTY LOCK-UP, CARMARTHEN. It was decided to attend to the south side of this building, which was subsiding. It was decided also to build a small office for Sergeant at the same place the county work at present being transacted in the kitchen. ANOTHER POLICEMAN. Mr J. LI. Thomas moved That inasmuch as Llanelly Parish has a population of over 3,000, a resident police constable be placed there, and, if necessary, that an addition to the County Police Force of one constable be made for the purpose." This was carried unanimously.

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