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*=■ 1ft BRYN ROBERTS, M.P., AT PEKYSEOES. EiTTER ATTACK ON LIBERAL IMPERIALISTS. On Wednesday night Mr J. Bryn Roberta. M-P., addressed a well-attended meeting Liberals at Penygroes. Mr T. W. il 1 lams presi dec!. Rev. H. Williams, B.A., proposed a u- fiftuuoii to the effect that that meot-iig called, upon the Government to do all in its power to bring the war to a speedy ter- nvnation on fa,r and just term-s. hououi- ao|e to both sides. R. R. Williams briefly iseoonded. Mr J. Bryn Roberts, on rising to support the motion, was received with cheers. Ho s&wl that Lord. Rosebery's Chesterfield speech so far as it dealt with the necessity of making, peace by arrangement with the B°^r& and 'in sc» far as it vigorously de- nounced the policy of uncondl.tional sur- render had the support of all anti-wax Liberals, and his lordship's miljx and r^al 'Object, undoubtedly wars to help in making s'ieh 4 pedc £ iii? Jordshi-p favoured the ^Hctivn of a temporary coatd'.on Goi/o'-n- ttient for the .sole purpose of effecting Rilch a peaee, and he t'-iir Bryy 'RoKtIs) would U. Welcome any Govwent formed for the sincere purpose of effecting a termination 01 th-s Ln, 7ultctlus war by a peace honour- able to "ath sides, whether such a course Would heap or injure the interests of the Liberal party, for party interests were as dust com oared with the* interests of Inl- Hi an .ty (applause). If that was tbp hon- orable and patriotic purpose of Lord Rcfiebery it was completely toiled bjf the selfish tonduot oi the Liberal Imperialist intriguers. The chances of the success of the scheme were fiiight under tho most favourable circum- stances, for it required the co-operation of influential Conservatives who hated the war and wished in the interest of the nation to ee it ended &nd who would be willing to jay .aside all party interests in the mt'ion&i interest of peace. It was, therefore, es- sential that the movement should not be identified with any party or any party seo tkitl. All chanv-e of this was destroyed by Air A"quith and Sir Edward Grey and their handful of followers taking possession of Lord Robbery's platform, openly identify- ing Lord Rosebery with their party section, and effusively clasping him to their bosoms "willy-nilly as their leader. The result was that Lord Rosebery's patriotic attempt to lead a non-party peace movement had been frustrated and "they had a case of "as you Were" all round. The reasons why the Liberal Imperialists acted thus were pretty obvious. They had hacked up the war and justified the Government from the first. Tbey found that the country was dis- covering that it had been grievously de- luded and hoodwinked by the war party, and that the best blood had been poured, and two hundred millions had been squan- dered in vain. The Liberal Imperialists saw political ruin staring them in the face, and they hoped to avert their fat- by cling- I ing desperately to Lord Rosebery's coat- ^ails (lp.ughter). The true interpretation of the effusiveness of Sir Henry Fowler, Sir Edward Grey, and Mr Asquith, was that. it was was a frenzied cry of "Lara) save us! or we perish" (Joud laughter). The Imperialist editors had all followed in the same line and frantically called on Lord Rosebery to put himself at the head of the Liberal party, ignoring his definite statement that he would never attempt to lead a divided party. Lord Rosebery knew perfectly well that a leader tainted with Jingoism would never lead a united Liberal party, and he indicated as much In his Chesterfield speech for lie drew at- tention to the discrepancy between the in- vitation to the meeting that. he was aak^l to advise the Liberals, but that in the grave national crisis he would add his ide^s tc Mie common stock—not to the Liberal Svock (hear, hear). It was true be gave some preliminary advice to th? Liberal party, but, as he expressly said, lest they should think he came there on false pretences, but when Lord Posebery caDle to the main purpose of his speech he distinctly said lie wished to avoid party Polemics, that his policy did not run on party lines, that it was not to party that ^e appealed, and that party in the matter be aimed at, namely peace, could avail little or nothing. And now these editors, when they found that Lord Roseberv really meant these things when he said them, were overwhelmed with consternation for they had trusted that it had been Lord Rosebery who should have redeemed the Liberal Imperialists. Theijr were greatly taken aback when they discovered that Lord Rosebery was much too wise to march through the country at the head of that ragg,Kt regiment (loud laughter and ap- plause). But putting aside all these mat- ters which were comparatively trifling ex- cept in to far as they had, frustrated Loird IEL0 efforts for peace, the -speech ai Chesterfield was, after all, of great signi- ficance and an important help to the peace Bioveaiient. J..JOro Rosebery had been a strong supporter of the war policy (hear, hear). He had egged on the war &P^lt approving of Fitzpatrick's hook which had been nubli-s.hed to kindle it, and to hnd him declaring as forcibly for a policy ot con- ciliation a,s against the fatal policy ot un- conditional surrender was indeed beaut (hear, hear). It was an unmustaA- able indication that the country, including weai the war party itself, wa.s utterly sici of t/hc war (cheers). The Boers, after all *rc unspeakable horrors which they had, en- dured. and were enduring, must be still more sick of fit. What was there to prevent Peace being made? When both parties to a combat were utterly tired of a. contest then should be the aowpted time for mediation. The country should make its vctoe unmistakably heard upon this point (hear, heaT). Without that it was useless to expect the Government to move in the direction of peace. They had f"" foolishly committed themselves to a policy of un. conditional surrender that they feel that they cannot wlitb.draw from it without hu- miliation. and he bad been sufficiently long In politics to have learnt that the ordinary party politician would continue to plunge his country intci any calamity, shed <t.s Wood, and pour out its treasure without stint and without hea'tatiion, utterly re- gardless of the ultimate consequences as long as he'xiuld befool the country into do- ing so rather admit himself in the wrong d thereby subject himself and' his party xo humiliation and disaster (cheers). Had at not been for this foolish and criminal poVav of unconditional surrender peaoe would have been established after Paarde- berg, more than a. year and a half ago (hear, t>ur losses in life and treasure since then had .11 ore than doubled, and were ap- paren: ly to go on indefinitely in order to save the faces of the end to avoid the humiliation of thenr having to reverse the policy of unconditional surrender. In order t,) befool the country and keep it up to the fighting mark any suggestion Li of negotiation is scouted as disgraceful and lu an admission of defect: and we were a^ked indignantly whether we were to sue or a discreditable peace. Why, for the victor to negotiate a peace was not to stl, Or peace, nor was a peace so attained dis- creditable (hear, hear). It was the univer- Ral method by which all civilised warfare was terminated (cheers). Did we make a "Creditable peace with France after the 1 battle of Waterloo^ when we entered into negotiations and did not annex that coun- try? Was a discreditable peace negotiated by France after Solferfno. by Bisma-rk after by France after Solferfno. by Bisma-rk after I the Prusso-Danish war, after Sadcwat, end rt "t after Sedan, and by Turkey after the war with Greece? In all these coses the victor entered into negotiations with the van- I-Itislied and offered terms which a brave op- poutsni co'dd honourably cccept (hear, hear). How, then, could it be discreditable in us- to do the same now? Theu .ve are túld that it is for the Boers to approach us. Why, they had done so repeatedly (hear, hear). The Presidents of both Republics sued for peace after Cronje's surrender, and the reply was, uuenditioual surrendor, and the extinction of the Republics aiKi of their I nationhood. They had si-ice repeatedly nvide overturts. Botha did so, and nego- tiated with General 71uller after the relief of Ladvsmith. Buller could have made trrms. but the orders he received from Lord Roberts werj to demand unconditional sur- render. In all, the Boers had endeavoured to negotiate six or seven timef:, and peace had even' time been prevented by the Home (cheers). The motiOP, was unanimously adopted. On the -motion of Mr J. Elias Jones, draper, Penygroes, seconded by Mr Robert IVêy, a vote of confidence in Mr Bryn Ro- berts was passed with acclamation. The Rev D. Cynddelw Williams, B.A., proposed a Vr-olntion in favour of the popular control of education, and Mr Lewis Williams, seconded. The Chairman, in calling upon Mr D. P. Williams (chairman of the Carnarvon County Governing Body) to support. the motion, referred to that gentleman as one who had done more than any other to further the caxise of education in Carnar- vonshire within the last ten years. Mr Williams, who was enthusiastically received, reviewed the history of educa- tion ill the country from the time of the passing of the Act of 1870. He compared the Board and the Voluntary schools, and showed the superiority of the work done tv the. former, and the effect. of recent 7ory legislation upon elementary education in the country. Mr Williams also traced the history of intermediate education in Wales, and especially in Carnarvonshire, where the first county school was built, and he urged the necessity of keeping child- ren in the intermediate schools for at least three years in order that they might receive the full benefits of intermediate education. The resolution having been adopted, Mr Ellis Davies, solicitor, Carnarvon, who succeeds th. late Mr W. J. Williams as secretary of the Eivion Liberal As- sociation, addressed the meeting, emphas- ising the importance of the better housing of working classes. A vote of thanks to Mr Bryn Roberts and other speak "rs and also to the chair- man brought the meeting to a close. —(§>

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