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CRICCLTH COUNCIL. A meeting cf this Council was held on Sat- urday evening. Present: Messrs T. Bur- nell (chairman), R. P. Thomas (vice-chair- man), Robert Thomas, W. G. Evans, T. E. Palmer, J. T. Jones, John Jones, O. T. Williams, Dr Davies, J. W. Bowen, W. Watkin, J. W. Roberts, H. Humphreys, Evan Jones, O. Parry, J. Tobias (assistant clerk), and M. Wiliams (surveyor). FINANCIAL. The finance committee recommended the payments of bills amounting to £ 47 10s 6d. There was an item of 6s 8d in dispute. It was overtime allowed H. Woodward for watching the concrete during the night.— The amount was ordered to be paid. The supplemental pay sheet came to zLl2 7s. The engineer certified that the sea wall contrac- tor was entitled to £ 150 on account. On the motion of Mr R. Thomas, seconded by Mr W. G. Evans, it was agreed to pay that amount.—The Clerk said that the amount of fees in connection with the application for the loan of over £ 2000 towards the sea wall was E21 10s; stamp, X3 2s 6d. STATISTICS. Births during the month, 1; deaths, 4. There was no infectious diseases of any kind during the month. MR GLADSTONE. Mr Herbert Gladstone-, M.P., wrol3 acknowledging the vote of sympathy passed by the Council with the Family of the late Mr W. E. Gladstone.—Mr Robert Thomas moved that the letter be recorded on the minutes.—Mr Evan Jones seconded and it was agreed to. A BANKRUPT'S MONEY. The Clerk had written to the Official Re- ceiver respecting £ 57 16s which belonged to a bankrupt who had done work for the Coun- cil, and which amount was still due to him for that work. The Official Receiver advised the Council not to part with the money for the present. v RAILWAY ARRANGEMENTS. The Cambrian Railways Company acknow- ledged the receipt of an application from the Council for improvement in the train arrange- ments. The matter would be considered by the Company.—A letter was received from another railway company stating that the request oi the Council could not be granted, but adding that other conveniences would be granted during the summer months. CYCLISTS. The Cyclists Touring Club asked whether the Council insisted upon all drivers of vehicles carrying lighted lamps. Had the Council any bye-laws? Mr J. T. Jones The County Council have had the matter under consideration. When that Council passes anything upon the mat- ter we may be able to adopt it here.—Re- marks were made by Mr O. T. Williams, Mr R. Thomas, and Dr Davies, and the matter was allowed to drop. CRICCIETH CHARITIES. Mr T. E. Morris, the As istant Charity Commissioner, informed the Council that his report regarding the Criccieth Charities was published. He wanted the fcot to be made well known in the parish. ADVERTISING. Llandudno Council asked if this Council would guarantee a sum not less than R20 if a bill was brought before Parliament, giving power to local authorities to devote a portion of the rates to advertise the town.—Dr Da- vies was favourable to such a course.—Mr 0. T. Williams said a committee bad been ap- pointed to receive contributions towards that object. As a Council they could not grant any money out of the rates.—The Chairman We cannot interfere.The Committee found out that the inhabitants had no interest in the matter.—Mr J. T. Jones: If they are going fcr an Act of Parliament, it will be very expensive.—Mr R. Thomas: There will be preliminary expenses, supposing the bill never became law.—The matter dropped. AN EXCHANGE OFFERED. A Council in Flintshire offered for sale a steam roller.—Mr Palmer The roa.ds are too steep here for a steam roller. They are well rolled already.—Mr Evans: Suppose we offer to exchange our old watering cart for the steam roller? (loud laughter).—Mr R. Thomas I should second a proposal to sell the watering cart, but not exchange it.- Mr Evans: It is useless.The offer was de- clined. A BAND'S APPLICATION. Mr Claude Linton wrote asking for per- mission to sing and play on the promenade during the summer months. He had a band of three gentlemen and one lady. They were first class instrumentalists and operatic singers, all well dressed, off and on the stage (roars cf laughter).—The Council had no power to gfant permission. THE CONGO INSTITUTION. The Rev T. G. Williams, of the Congo In- stitution, Colwyn Bay, asked the Council to permit him to held a public meeting at the Town Hall in August.—Mr Robert Thomas said that they should only charge a nominal sum.—Dr Davies mentioned 2s 6d.—3Ir Bowen seconded.—Passed. GAME LICENSES. Game licenses were granted to Mr J. W. Roberts and -r W. Owen. DINAS STONES. Mr W. G. Evars asked for permission to take building stones from Dinas.—The usual charge used to be 6d per cubit foot.—The application led to a lively discussion.—Mr H. Humphreys proposed that the price bo re- duced.—Mr O. T. Williams Why reduce the amount new Ev.an Jones: We should not put anything in the way of Criccieth get- ting on. There are plenty of build'ng stones in the quarry,—enough for 50 years.—Mr H. Humphreys: The small broken stones can be used on the road.—Mr R: P. Thomas We should remember that there are no stones to be had on the shore new. Mr J. T. Jones: No stones should be allowed to be taken unless paid for. Other people have paid for stones there.—Mr R. P. Tho- mas Where will builders get stones ? Must they go to LlfinffcrddP Can they go to Parci u M,awr?-Mr Palmer: How about b-.s.mj?—The -Chairman:: The builders blast themselves.—Mr Evans The pric- is too dear for the stones. The west side is better. The stones there are cheap for 6d. —Mr R, Thomas wanted to know what prcfit was made on the stcnes in the past. They should not go in for making profit, but should safe-guard the interest of the ratepayers. They should bear in mind that Mr Evans was a member cf the Council, ond it did not look well for him to be there when th s matter was being discussed.—The Clerk said that on one occasion zE12 royalty had been paid for the place, but the Council recsived nothing On another occasion the sum of £ 12 Is 6d W,18 paid as royalty, whilst the Council re- ceived £ 15.—Mr J. T. Jones: We had nothing last year.—Mr R. Thomas: We should charge a fair price all round.—Mr Evans I cannot give 6d.—Mr Evan Jcnes: It is irore expensive tc open the quarry at this end.—Mr 0. T. Williams Why should we allow a reduction now ? I am net against building, but I want everyone to be en the same level. We should bear in mind that if we reduce the charge now, we may be sus- pected of unfairness, beacuse Mr Evans is a member of the. Council. No rea- on has yet been given for making any reduction.— Mr Evans The fact that Mr Evans will not work the quarry unless he gets a. reduction is a sufficient reason.—Mr J. T. Jones: Mr Evans ought to retire.—Mr Evans: I am quite willing to do so.-He then left the room.—Mr R. Thomas said that in all cases of this kind, when any change was proposed, a notice of motion shculd always be given.— After further remarks the Council resolved to adhere to the old terms. HACKNEY CARRIAGES, &c. Mr O. T. Williams brought in the report of the Improvements Committee, and pro- posed the various items seriatim. The bye-laws governing hackney carriages, &o., were based upon similar bye-laws elsewhere. The Committee had -one through them care- fully. Each authcrised driver would wear a, badge, and the trap would have a number. The fares would be published on a card in- side the vehicle. The maximum fare al- lowed was higher than what was charged at present.—Mr W. Williams then gave parti- culars of the fares.—Mr J. Jones: Is the driver to adhere to these prices? Who is to see that the prices are not exceeded ?— Mr O. T. Williams: The list of fares will be put up in the vehicle. Any deviation from that list is to be reported to the Council.— Mr J. Jones I know better than you about carriages and horses (laughter). What ibout donkeys ?-NIr Williams: They are also down. Two donkeys, 9d, one donkey, 6d (loud laughter).—Mr J. T. Jones: Any rule about a mule? (more laughter).—Mr J. W. Roberts: Do you restrict as to age?—Mr J. Jones: What! A donkey's age (renewed laughter).—Dr Davies: Expenses will run high. Who will have to pay?—Mr Wil- liams 0, no. Hardly any costs.—Dr Da- vies There is the printing, &c.—Mr Hum- phreys: How will it benefit the town?—Mr W illiams It will protect visitors,—that is one benefit. There will be a nominal charge paid for the badges.—Mr R. P. Thomas ob- jected to the maximum being put higher than was the highest fare now charged.—Mr Williams: It is only put to show that the amount cannot be exceeded.—A discussion on the various items charged at present fol- folowed. Mr Palmer (an Englishman) com- plained that he could not understand what was proceeding, as the talk was in Welsh.— The Chairman explained to him.—Mr Palmer made certain suggestions, and proposed that the car proprietors should be consulted.— Mr Humphreys seconded, and it was passed. SPEED OF CYCLISTS. The committe,, put the speed of cyclists when passing through the town at six miles an hour.—Dr Davies said that notices to cyclists should be put up at the entrances to the town.—Aissed. BATHING AND THE FORESHORE. Mr Williams said that the time had come that they should have the control of the fore- shore, and so be in a position to regula-te bathing and boating. They should take a lease cf the foreshore from the harbour de- partment of the Board of Trade, for El rent, and pay royalty for each load of stones or gravel that might be taken. That would be better than the present unsatisfactory state of affairs. Stoneswere being already carried from the place. Anyone could give information that would stop it. Mr Wil- liams would trust to the honesty of every builder that whenever he wanted stones from the shore, that he would keep a proper account of the loads.—Mr Evans What of the sea weeds?—Mr Williams: That is free. The Council should consider the question in its face, with all its advantages and disad- vantages. By paying 4d per load royalty, and the rent, the Council could ha.ve con- trol over the beach.—Mr Palmer said that they were in a cleft whatever they did. He would rather let things be as they were. They were already saddled with plenty of embankments. He moved that they should drop the whole thing.—Mr Humphreys agreed with Mr Palmer. Fourpence for one load appeared small, but what of 60 or 80 loads ?—The Clerk said that he had been re- quested to ask for an explanation of Clause 8 of the lease. The Beard of Trade had given him the explanation. No stones or gravel were to be removed from the shore without permission from the Council or the consent cf the Board of Trade.—Dr Davies Are not stones a protection to our property ?-Ilr E. Jones There is no harm done. At least it was said by Mr Douglas, who is an authority upon, such matters.—Mr J T Jones thought that removing the stones weakened the de- fence cf the land—Mr J W Roberts: What amount does the Beard of Trade ask for the place?—Mr J. T. Jones: One pound rent and 4d per load for stones, &c.—Mr Evans: Many thousands of tons of gravel and sand come up with the tide, nnd we may as well let Criccieth people get them as to let the gravel and sand be take l to Morfa Bvchan. 31 r j. Jones believed that people could be stepped carrying anything from the beach.— Mr Watkin I think we ought to get the management of the befeb. I second Mr Williams.—The resolution was passed. LIBERALITY. The estimate for putting the Maes Brook in order was £ 5.-—Dr Davies thought trees would be of no gcod there, unless protected. Mr J. T Jones premised trees and labour, and Mr R Thomas did the same Mr Bowen also promised to help CIRCUSES AND SHOWS. A long discussion took place arising from the recommendation cf the committee to throw open the Maes to shows and circuses. Mr R. Thomas believed that the committee had acted ultrr. vires, and moved that the committee's recommendation be not adopted. —Mr Humphreys seconded.—Mr J. W. Ro- berts seconded the recommendation. After a warm debate, the committee's recommenda- tion was adopted by a majority.—Mr R. Thc- mas said that it was « serious mistake.- Further on it was resolved to exempt fair days from the rule.—Mr Evans asked if a switchback came there for a week, and if a fair was held there during that week, what would the Council do ?—Mr R. Thomas Clear it out.—Mr Evans: It would be very unfair. BATHING NOTICES. Mr Palmer said that unless they had ccn- trol over the beach, they might as well not put up any notices. They could not enforce any bye-laws.—Mr J. T. Jones Yes, above the highwater mark.—Mr 0. T. Williams said that the notices would be always up.- Mr Palmer condemned the proposal to im- pose a penalty unless the bathing machines were a certain distance apart. It was only a trap. The visitors went in front of the machines. Mixed bathing prevailed there. The rules would enly bring ridicule upon all. He moved that the recommendation cf the committee be not adopted.—There was no seconder.—The recommendation was passed. A NEW RATE. A rate of 3s 6d in the pound was made. WANTED—A TRANSLATION. The "Pistyll'' below Sncwdon View was un- sightly, and instructions were given for the necessary work to he done.—Mr Evans asked what was the English wcrd fcr "Pistyll. The Clerk Some cjdl ;t "a pub" (laughter) A PERMANENT COMAIITTE9 Mr Watkin moved the suspension cf the standing orders, in crder to propose a re- solution. He proposed that a permanent committee cf tho Council should form a fin- ancial commit tec-.—Mr Palmer seconded. Passed.—The following were ,lppcinted:- Me jsrs Bur^el!, J. T. Jcnes, Palmer, O. T. Wiilhins. and Watkin. LOVER'S LANE Mr Evans proposed that Mr J. T. Evans should be asked to grant land to widen the entrance into Lever's Lane.^—Mr J. T. Jones said that he had m-.de an offer years ago. Mr Greaves should also be approached.—Mr Evans Ycu should show an example.—Mr J. T. Jones said that he war prepared to do his share.—Mr Bowen said that they should ac- cept Mi Jones's promise. MAES TY'NYGELLHESG. The ground rents cf the proposed new houses were again discussad. Mr J. T. Jones demanded that the minutes of the com- mittee and the council dealing with the matter should be read. The Clerk did so, and also read the names of those present. At the Council meeting there were present Messrs R. Thomas, W. Williams, Dr Davies, H. Humphreys, Evan Jones, Captain E. Jones, J. T. Jones, Marks, O. T. Williams, and R. P. Thomas. Mr J. T. Jones had proposed and Mr R. P. Thomas seconded that the ground rents should be as adopted.— At a subsequent meeting a motion was made to rescind all former resolutions on the matter This was proposed by Mr Burnell, seoonded by Mr Williams.—Mr J. T. Jones said that no one protested.—Mr R. P. Thomas said that Mr Humphreys was a member at the time and did not protest.—Mr Humphreys: I wanted to build at the time.—Mr O. T. Williams said that the Rev J. Owen claimed the first offer to build in the place.-Tlierl a discussion ensued as to the revising the rents. Mr J. W. Roberts wanted to know who was to pay the expenses already incurred in level- ling, c. ?-Mr J. T. Jones said that the Council were to make the road and the drain there. Mr J.T. Jones strongly animadverted upon the reference that had been made by Mr Owen about the dead, and went on to to describe the nature of the work that should be done at Maes Ty'nygellhe&'g.-Mr R. Tno- ma.s asked what was the position of the Coun- cil ? Had they not promised to meet Mr Owen. —Mr O. T. Williams said that if the Council s offer was not accepted, it fell through.-Mr Evans wanted to have the rents revised, and the amounts reduced, rather tbaii ratepayers should suffer loss. He showed what heavy losses would follow unless the land was let.-Mr Hum- phreys seconded Mr Evans.—Mr R. P. Tho- mas: Is it right that an applicant for a site should second the proposal?—Mr Hum- phreys: I am not now an applicant.—Mr Bowen said that they should consider the in- terest of the ratepayers. Land was getting very scarce there now. A perpetual lease was different from other leases. He moved that the resolutions already passed by the Council be adhered to.'—Mr Evans: But think.-Mr J. T. JQnes: Order, order. You have spoken before. '-Mr Evans: Why should you shcut "Order, order!" at me all the time. You must not do so. I tell you. J- T. Jones: I can call you to order. 3j.i Evans You have no right to call me to order.-Mr Jones Yes, yes.-Tlie Chair- man intervened, and said he would call for -order. Mr R. P. Thomas seconded the mo- tion proposed by Mr Bowen.—Mr J. T. Jones said that he was glad that Mr Bowen had proposed the motion. It was what others had done before. The seconder of the proposal to reduce the rents was present a,t the meeting when the rents were settled. -For rescinding the previous resolutions and revising the rents, õ vcted against 9. -On the motion cf Mr Bowen, it was resolved t0A^1VtUie first offer "f a Plot to Mr Owen. —Mr Evan Jones seconded.—It was decided to advertise in the "Genedl Gymreig" that building sites were to be had at Maes Ty'n- ygellhesg.

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