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THE HOUSING OF THE WORK- IN G CLASSES. DISCUSSION IN THE BA.NG0R CITY COUNCIL. ANTICIPATING A HEAVY RATE. On Wednesday night, at the monthly meeting of the Bangor City Council, the Mayor (Dr Grey Edwards) presiding, Dr Langford Jones, chairman of the Sanitary Coinuiittte, brought up the report of the committee, which contained the following minute with reference to the housing of the work- ing classes:—"The sub-committee appointed to consider the question of the housing ot the work- ing classes reported that they had under considera- tion two or three sites suitable for the purpose, and recommended that Mr John Pritchard be ap- pointed to value, and if his valuation was approved to negotiate for the purchase oflsnd to the east of Kyffiu square for? the sum of £5 5s. It was pro- posed by his Worship, seconded by Mr W. P. Matthews, and resolved, that the repoit be accepted and acted upon." Mr W. Bayne observed that only one site was mentioned, and he should like to know where the other sites were. If they were going to expend they should have their eyes open. He thought a full report upon the whole question should be°sub- mitted to the Council in order that they might be able to grasp the :matter. He, therefore, moved that the minute be referred back to the committee. Mr Honry Lewis I was going to move a reso- lution that it be left out entirely. I Mr Bayne: In the face of the 'resolution passed before, I think that would be going too far. Mr Lewis: Very well, I will second your motion. Proceeding, be said he should like to know what had happened since the Council passed the resolution to acquire powers under part 3 of the Housing of the Working Classes Act to make the recommendation of the committee necessary. At that time it would be remembered that he pro- tested against the manner the matter was brought before the Council, and he ascertained from the Chairman of the committee that there was no intention whatever on the part of the committee at that time to make use of e $ the powers under Jthe Act. What he suspected then had become trii&, and he wished to know wbat had occurred to make the committee so anxious to utilize the powers ? Had a report upon the question of the housing of the working classes been presented to the committee; had the slightest inquiry been made; and had the com- mittee tried to furnish themselves with any data ? Before the Council committed themselves to any expenditure they ought to have the fullest in- formation in order to give the matter their best consideration. Mr Worrall, the sanitary inspector, it was true, had been asked to report upon certain houses in certain parts of the town, but that re- port would have reference to Mr Bircham's state- ments at the Board of Guardiass. However, it had not yet been submitted to the committee, but notwithstanding this fact ana that no data what- ever had been supplied to the committee upon the housing of the working classes in the town they had the committee rushing the matter forward. At the meeting of the Council, when it was re- solved to apply for these powers, it transpired that several members of the Council had not re- ceived a copy of the Act, (and that no member of the committee understood its provisions. It was not stated then even that more houses were required for the working class, the simple contention made being that it was difficult for working men to get houses. The matter was rushed trreugh the Council, and was enly passed by the double vote of Mr Hughes, the deputy- mayor. A motion was made to defer the subject for a month in order to consider it, but this reasonable request was rejected in a most insulting manner. In a statement he made in moving the estimates for this year he quoted figures to show that the inhabitants of Bangor were about the best housed in this part of North Wales, in fact he might say that Bangor compared favourably in this matter with any town of its size in the United Kingdom. Whilst in Bangor there was only an average of 48 persons residing in each house, in Carnarvon, Festiniog, and other towns the figures were higher. This tended to show that there was no overcrowding in Bangor. The committee ought to give a reason that houses for the working classes would not be provided by somebody else. He liked to know to whom this mptter belonged ? Very little inquiry would satisfy members of the Council that the land with respect to which the committee were negotiating belonged to members of the Council. 0 Some time ago plans were submitted of two houses proposed to be erected by Mr T. G. Williams on a piece of land at the bottom of Kyffin Square. Attention was called to the fact that these houses would be built over the main sewer, and the plans, therefore, were not passed. Designs were submitted a second time, and they were objected to again on the same ground. What was the effect of that ? The result was that they bad a proposal to divert the main sewer in order to enable Mr Williams to build upon this piece of ground. The estimate for that work, which was now in progress, was S55, and Mr T. G. Williams pioposed to pay JEK) towards the cost, which ap. peared to him (Mr Lewis) to be very inadequate. But they were diverting this sewer at a cost of £ 55 apparently in order to enable Mr T. G. Wil- liams to build houses on this :part of the land. Subsequently there came a proposal to divert the river from land in the possession of Mr Williams at a cost of £360. towards which that gentleman was going to contribute £99. and Lord Penrhyn £ 30, leaving £ 240 to be de- frayed by the town. What for ? In 'order to enable Mr Williams to build upon this land. In addition to the expenditure of JE45 in connection with the land that belonged to Mr Williams at the bottom of Kyffin square, it was proposed to accommodate him again by spending ;E240 more. Here they had a grand project for building houses for the working classes. Indeed a sugges- tion was made that the Conncil should buy this land from Mr Williams. These were facts he re- lated without comment, and be protested against what was proposed b '-g done. Mr Williams asd his architect were members ef the committee, and the inference was clear. Mr R. Davies: Withdraw my name I am not on the Committee. Mr T. G. Williams said that be did net intend to take any part in the discussion, but he might say that be never had anything at all to do with the matter. I v? "^eriry ^e,vis Mr Williams is an honour- J j able man, I wili not tike pvil in the discussion. I j will say that all these steps have been takeu ap- | parentlv to accommodate Mr Williams. J The Mayor: Order, order. Mr Lewis I say apparently. I don't say ;t is so. Mr T. G. Williams: Mind what you say. The Mayor: Order. Mr Lewis: If the remark is considered objection- abie I will withdraw it. Mr T. G. Williams: I think it is very ungen- tlemanly. J ° The Mayor (to Mr Lewis): I hops you will withdraw the remark. Mr Lewis Most certainly I will. Proceeding, he said they should settle the question whether houses were required for the working classes. This matter ought to be fully discussed, instead of rushing the Council in one meeting to adopt the powers under the Act and purchase a specific piece of land. Such a proceeding was scandalous, and ought not to be tolerated by any meeting of hon- ourable men. When it would be decided that houses for the working classes were required in Bangor, then the question would arise where would be the best place to erect them. Was there xi3, ^etter spot for the purpose than at the bottom of Kyffin Square, which had already a bad reputation ? There was still a broader question to be takes into con- sideration, and he hoped the Council would look upon it seriously. They wele at the end of the financial year, and at the next meeting of the Council estimates for the coming year would be submitted. He should like to know how they stood financially, and what the rate would be be- fore they committed themselves to such a large scheme such as now proposed. With other im- portant undertakings on band, the present was not the time for them to launch the town into further I expenditure. They would be startled, no doubt, at the next meeting by the new rate, and he would mot be surprised if it would tbe from Is to Is 4d J more than last year. Further, the loss on the Pier would not be less than £1300, and that would be provided for from the rates. Mr R. Davies You had better say £ 2000. Mr H. Li wis said that he had mentioned these matters in order that the Council might consider their position. If houses were required for the working classes it would be clearly demonstrated, but not the slightest attempt bad been made to do so. He felt sorry if be bad said anything that might have offended any member of the Council. Mr T. G. Williams objected to his name having been made uqe of, because he had not been asked to see the land. If Mr Lewis wanted to buy the plot let him pay value for it. He (Mr Williams) did not want an extra penny for what he didj Mr P. S. Gregory thought thera was ur, need for rushing the matter as there would be plenty of land on sale shortly, and this could be utilised for the purpose of erecting workmen's dwellings. The Mayor said that bad Mr Lewis asked him or any other member of the committee he would have had no occasion to make the remarks he had made. The making of the drain which had been referred to had been explained to in a previous meeting of the Council. It was certainly a great advantage, from a sanitary point of view, to have a drain in the middle of the street. They would have been obliged to have it in a short time, and it was better to make it now than again, and, moreover, the houses would bring them revenue. With regard to the culvert, he pointed out that it was simply a question for the Council to consider whether they would hnve a culvert or a covered dram. Mr 1. U. Williams had not only intinded to cover the river, but he had the slabs and necessary plant on the spot. It was thought it would be better to have a culvert because it would not hold refuse. No single member of the committee had any intention of improving any man's property, and he was sure Mr Lewis would accept this explanation. Some of the houses in Kyffin Square were a disgrace to the town, and in order to te able to pull these down they must provide houses for the inhabitants, and by securing a portion of land to the east houses could be built into which the people could be removed while the houses to the west could be pulled down and rebuilt. The stigma attached to Kyffin Square would thus be entirely removed. A better position could not be got because it was in the centre of the t.)wn. The committee did not re- commend the purchase of the land, but simply ask Mr Pritchard to value it. If they were going to build workmen's houses they must buy land reasonably. There were houses in Bangor crowded beyond all conception, and he knew of several cases in which people had been in lodgings for months because they failed to get houses. There was no intention ont the partj of the committee to commit the Council in any way, but before giving any data it was necessary to value the land. Mr H. Hughes said that Mr Henry Lewis's remark concerning him was unkindly. He would have been inconsistent with himself had he not voted as he did on the occasion to which Mr Lewis referred. He questioned whether Mr Lewis knew about the requirements of the town. Complaints were being continually heard that working men could not get houses Mr T. Lewis asked how was the question matured so soon, especially after they had been told by the chairman of the committee that there was no idea cf utilising the powers at once ? He quite agreed with Mr Henry Lewis that they had too many things on hand, and that they ought to move slowly. He ha.d been informed that there was a great want of workmen's dwellings in Bangor, but the matter should not be forced. through the Council in the way it had been done. He asked whether the matter would not be left until they saw the financial year through. Mr J. E. Roberts, chairman of the Finance Com- mittee, appealed to the Council before embarking upon the proposed undertaking to take into consideration that it was a question involving a large sum of money, following the expenditure they had incurred of late. They were advertising a scheme in opposition to the house owners in the town who derive d their living from letting houses. These, no doubt, would feel to the quick any effort on the part of the Corporation to take their means of livelihood from them by letting houses in opposition to them. The Council should also take into consideration the financial position of the town. He had no hesita- tion in saying that there would be a very heavy rate, and were tney, in the face of this gamo to embark upon another important undertaking that would involve an expenditure of several thousands of pounds before knowing what their position was? They were face to face with one of the heaviest rates that was ever made, and be thought there would be a great cry in the town when it was known. Dr Langford Jones observed that a casual listener to the pitiful appeal of Mr J. E. Roberts' would imagine that the committee were asking the Council to vote £10,000 or £ 20,000. A Member That is what it will enme to. Dr Jones: Nothing of the sort. It is simply a matter of passing a resolution to enable the com- m'tte to bring up a scheme for the consideration of the Council. He thought it was patent to all I that there was a want of houses for working classes in the towa, and that capitalists had re- fused to build houses of this kind. The class of houses built ranged from £ 18 to JJ25, ani working men were driven into these houses and were forced to keep lodgers in order to be able to make both ends meet. The Council were merely looking out whether they could acquire land and at what cost. for the purpose of building houses for the working classes, and that they were asking that a fee of £ 5 5s, 8houli be paid to a valuer in order that t e «immittee might ka able to bring their 1 schema before the Council. Negotiating did not mem that the bargain was going to be made. He thoueht the minute was rather misleading. 1 should read as follows: The sub-committee ap- piiuted to consider the question of the housing oi the working classes reported that they had under consideration two or three sites suitable for t e purpose, and recommended that Mr Jo n oritchard be appointed to value the several sites for a fee of £ 5 os." oritchard be appointed to value the several sites for a fee of £ 5 os." Mr W. Bayne withdrew his amendmont, and tne minute in its amended form was adopted. minute in its amended form was adopted.

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